What does that have to do with anything? They do not say "recommended to get no performance issues". The recommend is a best guess on what is required to run the game without crashing. 15 years of tech support and personally testing your said CPU and GPU says that your CPU is the problem.
Then the recommended specs should be listed as the minimum specs because I get 14 ****ing FPS in the ****ing city of ****ing Neverwinter.
I play as a control wizard and when it comes down to it... it's all about the freeze.
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serenasummersMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 14Arc User
edited May 2013
i have a lenovo v570 with i5-2430M and intel HD 3000 and i get great fps in town and outside of town at low/medium settings
So i guess that i should start my own thread asking my question since you guys are all focused in on a "no you" argument that isn't going to go anywhere? :P
Then the recommended specs should be listed as the minimum specs because I get 14 ****ing FPS in the ****ing city of ****ing Neverwinter.
Its the same with most mmos I've played- you need a really good, modern cpu/mobo, fast ram, good pcu, mid-high end graphics card, with adequate cooling to run them well. The recommended specs usually seem pretty understated. For example my computer is far above the recomended spec for Tera, but struggles in some parts of that game (it runs neverwinter quite smoothly though, and my graphics card is much slower than yours).
This game isn't graphics intense enough to bottleneck a duo core CPU.
Lol why are you talking about a dual core processor like its good?
It doesn't have to do as much with graphics but so many more things moving and going on at once in an MMO the processor might have trouble keeping up.
i have a lenovo v570 with i5-2430M and intel HD 3000 and i get great fps in town and outside of town at low/medium settings
It's your super CPU that is giving you good FPS and that your graphics card is very sub-par doesn't matter at all.
So sayeth the forum dwellers.
I play as a control wizard and when it comes down to it... it's all about the freeze.
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ramuxxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited May 2013
This game doesn't even have that great of visuals, it should not be performing as awful as it does on low end rigs. Guild Wars 2 runs on my piece of junk work laptop, with an integrated video card and on low that game still looks beautiful. I play NWN on low and the entire game looks blurred out, pixelized and still runs like ****. It's a poor game engine, that's all there is to it. It's funny that the majority of people here defending it are those that have spent $60 or more and want to ignore the games faults through rose tinted helmets.
This game doesn't even have that great of visuals, it should not be performing as awful as it does on low end rigs. Guild Wars 2 runs on my piece of junk work laptop, with an integrated video card and on low that game still looks beautiful. I play NWN on low and the entire game looks blurred out, pixelized and still runs like ****. It's a poor game engine, that's all there is to it. It's funny that the majority of people here defending it are those that have spent $60 or more and want to ignore the games faults through rose tinted helmets.
Yeah it's what I have been saying all along... it's the games fault that I get these low FPS.
I play as a control wizard and when it comes down to it... it's all about the freeze.
Then the recommended specs should be listed as the minimum specs because I get 14 ****ing FPS in the ****ing city of ****ing Neverwinter.
They cannot know how every single rig performs, especially since it's impossible to inhouse test thousands of people in one area. This is not their fault nor problem - it is yours. Not trying to be an ***, that's just the way it is.
It's your super CPU that is giving you good FPS and that your graphics card is very sub-par doesn't matter at all.
So sayeth the forum dwellers.
They work together. One without the other is pointless eg the aforementioned 'bottleneck' word.
StarCraft 2 is the perfect example for this. You can run a relatively bad video card for it and be fine as long as you have a fast processor. It is an extremely CPU focused game.
This game doesn't even have that great of visuals, it should not be performing as awful as it does on low end rigs. Guild Wars 2 runs on my piece of junk work laptop, with an integrated video card and on low that game still looks beautiful. I play NWN on low and the entire game looks blurred out, pixelized and still runs like ****. It's a poor game engine, that's all there is to it. It's funny that the majority of people here defending it are those that have spent $60 or more and want to ignore the games faults through rose tinted helmets.
I have not spent anything on the game. I have had zero problems with lag or fps. With settings maxed, I find the game looks pretty **** good for it's scale in a F2P game.
I'm pissed paying $25 for this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>-poor performance.
I play as a control wizard and when it comes down to it... it's all about the freeze.
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bpphantomMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Currently, I'm on an i7 quad and a single GTX480, only 8GB of RAM in the system as well. Neverwinter runs great with no drops below 30 FPS. Just saying.
- bpphantom
Grace, Tiefling Devoted Cleric
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Then leave the rest to Batman."
Don't listen to this guy. SSDs are useless if you're gaming. They're only useful if you're doing video processing, and they aren't needed for gaming.
This is wrong in so many levels. I use SSD and for example wow runs much faster if I play it from SSD rather than hard drive - the zoning times are much faster. Of'course you need fast SSD and not some sluggish cheap ones. I recommend OCX vertex 3 (or better), and you need also fast serial ata bus to be able to take the advantage of fast SSD - serial ata 3 or better is recommended for such OCX drive.
Also I'd like to know how much RAM you got and what operating system do you use? 64 or 32 bit?
Honestly, he's not really wrong. Especially when compared to a game like GW2, which seems to have bigger areas and such, graphics are better, but the system requirements are lower in GW2. With this game it just seems more of an optimization issue.
This game looks as good and is better optimized then GW2, i stopped playing GW2 because i could not get a setting with good graphics and good performance. This game is like melted butter on my screen, im on a gen 1 i7 and a gtx570. Game is smooth crisp and have awesome lightning effects and environments.
This is wrong in so many levels. I use SSD and for example wow runs much faster if I play it from SSD rather than hard drive - the zoning times are much faster. Of'course you need fast SSD and not some sluggish cheap ones. I recommend OCX vertex 3 (or better), and you need also fast serial ata bus to be able to take the advantage of fast SSD - serial ata 3 or better is recommended for such OCX drive.
Also I'd like to know how much RAM you got and what operating system do you use? 64 or 32 bit?
No you are wrong sir. A descent mechanical disc and a good amount of fast RAM beats that problem, i have a old raptor disc and i NEVER have any issues with loading times stutter etc, the zoning is perfect, and i think it would be on a descent ordinary mechanical disc aswell. SSD is good but it wont make the game run better, if the game is choppy etc the last upgrade to do is the freckin disc.
I'm pissed paying $25 for this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>-poor performance.
You should be pissed at yourself for buying top end GPU with subpar CPU and RAM. I run i7 2600k (way better than yours) and 560TI (way worse than yours) and 16gb DDR3 1666Mhz (way better than yours), and I dont dip below 30 in city, usually hover around 40.
Your c2d is 5 years old. It doesn't even sell in the two biggest IT eshops in my country anymore. That should give you a hint that it's time to upgrade.
I'm running an i7 3.40Ghz and a GTX 650 and I run the game maxed out and haven't had any issues. I also have 32GB of RAM so I'm sure that helps a bit. Modern PC gaming is RAM intensive. SSD's affect load times significantly but any other benefit is negligible.
No you are wrong sir. A descent mechanical disc and a good amount of fast RAM beats that problem, i have a old raptor disc and i NEVER have any issues with loading times stutter etc, the zoning is perfect, and i think it would be on a descent ordinary mechanical disc aswell. SSD is good but it wont make the game run better, if the game is choppy etc the last upgrade to do is the freckin disc.
I also have WD velociraptor and my OCX beats that HD in data transfer speed and access times hand down.
I'm using a AMD Phenom II X4 965, 7950 & 8g DDR3 1600Mhz and using a regular old 7200rpm hdd. Game plays perfectly at max settings, everything is super smooth. I've never had any lag whatsoever, in previous betas or now.
Look this graphic and say again: "the graphic in this game sucks"
please, say again.
You're obviously not running the game on maxed out settings. The game world and specifically the backgrounds look infinitely better than that on max settings.
Look this graphic and say again: "the graphic in this game sucks"
please, say again.
Whatever that pic came from, the graphics in it are awful. Its blurry and pinched across the horizon. Look at the far guard, if you can make him out.... its the grey blur on the left side.
This is to the OP don't post here asking for opinions and laugh at people telling you the truth. I have an Intel Core i7 @2.8GHz (not that amazing ik this isn't the point) and an evga gtx 560 ti factory overclocked only 8gb ddr3 ram and I run this game maxed out with NO dips at all always at 40+. The graphics in this game are pretty **** good. I don't understand the QQing on that front. Also it is optimized very well if you want to see crappy optimization check out Darkfall Unholy Wars, that is garbage. The problem does sit in your processor sorry man but it's most likely the issue. Also im still running the basic HDD not a SSD and the load times are minimal no lag skipping nothing game is smooth as butter.
Look this graphic and say again: "the graphic in this game sucks"
please, say again.
I start to think that people might have misconfigured their graphics because I heard someone saying that it looked 'grainy'...
I think the GFX are the last thing to worry about in NWO
BTW OP, your CPU surely doesn't help. I have a 'lowly' i3 and a 7850HD and I rarely have FPS problems (only network lag)
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Then the recommended specs should be listed as the minimum specs because I get 14 ****ing FPS in the ****ing city of ****ing Neverwinter.
Its the same with most mmos I've played- you need a really good, modern cpu/mobo, fast ram, good pcu, mid-high end graphics card, with adequate cooling to run them well. The recommended specs usually seem pretty understated. For example my computer is far above the recomended spec for Tera, but struggles in some parts of that game (it runs neverwinter quite smoothly though, and my graphics card is much slower than yours).
Dude, stop cry and realize, ITS YOUR CPU+MOBO+RAM.
Did u try down the game graphs? Maybe downing the graphs u can get some frames.
Lol why are you talking about a dual core processor like its good?
It doesn't have to do as much with graphics but so many more things moving and going on at once in an MMO the processor might have trouble keeping up.
It's your super CPU that is giving you good FPS and that your graphics card is very sub-par doesn't matter at all.
So sayeth the forum dwellers.
On the lowest setting I get maybe ten more FPS.
Yeah it's what I have been saying all along... it's the games fault that I get these low FPS.
They cannot know how every single rig performs, especially since it's impossible to inhouse test thousands of people in one area. This is not their fault nor problem - it is yours. Not trying to be an ***, that's just the way it is.
They work together. One without the other is pointless eg the aforementioned 'bottleneck' word.
StarCraft 2 is the perfect example for this. You can run a relatively bad video card for it and be fine as long as you have a fast processor. It is an extremely CPU focused game.
I have not spent anything on the game. I have had zero problems with lag or fps. With settings maxed, I find the game looks pretty **** good for it's scale in a F2P game.
Grace, Tiefling Devoted Cleric
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Then leave the rest to Batman."
Run in windowed mode with task manager open, or if you have a clue "resource monitor". Simple basic way to check bottlenecks.
Also to the guy that said SSD isn't for good gaming -_-
This is wrong in so many levels. I use SSD and for example wow runs much faster if I play it from SSD rather than hard drive - the zoning times are much faster. Of'course you need fast SSD and not some sluggish cheap ones. I recommend OCX vertex 3 (or better), and you need also fast serial ata bus to be able to take the advantage of fast SSD - serial ata 3 or better is recommended for such OCX drive.
Also I'd like to know how much RAM you got and what operating system do you use? 64 or 32 bit?
This game looks as good and is better optimized then GW2, i stopped playing GW2 because i could not get a setting with good graphics and good performance. This game is like melted butter on my screen, im on a gen 1 i7 and a gtx570. Game is smooth crisp and have awesome lightning effects and environments.
No you are wrong sir. A descent mechanical disc and a good amount of fast RAM beats that problem, i have a old raptor disc and i NEVER have any issues with loading times stutter etc, the zoning is perfect, and i think it would be on a descent ordinary mechanical disc aswell. SSD is good but it wont make the game run better, if the game is choppy etc the last upgrade to do is the freckin disc.
You should be pissed at yourself for buying top end GPU with subpar CPU and RAM. I run i7 2600k (way better than yours) and 560TI (way worse than yours) and 16gb DDR3 1666Mhz (way better than yours), and I dont dip below 30 in city, usually hover around 40.
Your c2d is 5 years old. It doesn't even sell in the two biggest IT eshops in my country anymore. That should give you a hint that it's time to upgrade.
I also have WD velociraptor and my OCX beats that HD in data transfer speed and access times hand down.
Look this graphic and say again: "the graphic in this game sucks"
please, say again.
You're obviously not running the game on maxed out settings. The game world and specifically the backgrounds look infinitely better than that on max settings.
Whatever that pic came from, the graphics in it are awful. Its blurry and pinched across the horizon. Look at the far guard, if you can make him out.... its the grey blur on the left side.
Is that from THIS game? I did not recognize it.
Get the URL link and open in new window in your browser, and see the full pic(1920x1080), and yes, its on max settings.
Oh, and yes, its NW.
Edit: The background looks like ****, cuz I take this picture completing one quest, with NPC window open.. When u do that, the focus stay on NPC.
I start to think that people might have misconfigured their graphics because I heard someone saying that it looked 'grainy'...
I think the GFX are the last thing to worry about in NWO
BTW OP, your CPU surely doesn't help. I have a 'lowly' i3 and a 7850HD and I rarely have FPS problems (only network lag)