There seems to be a lot of hatred between the groups right now, and no-one comes off looking good.
The Heroes seem to be lording it over everyone. Quoting that Guardians should have read what they were purchasing more carefully (during early advertising both were listed as VIP access and only on reading the smaller print did it differentiate, so this can certainly be forgiven!). Given the state of the economies of most purchasing countries right now, paying $200.00 for a game is a pretty nice luxury to have, especially given the extremely harsh exchange rate and taxed us Europeans faced, so I think perhaps the Heroes should be happy they have the money to spend on something like this, without criticising Guardians for wanting priority access.
The Guardians should all just learn to calm down! You don't buy rights over others (unless you're the 1%-ers of the Heroes), you bought a whole lot of useful items for a game that is great fun to play. You've probably been playing this for days and you know that its going to be a game that you'll be playing for weeks to come, and probably a whole lot longer (depending on how the monetisation system pans out!). There is nothing wrong with playing a F2P game for free and there are some people who can't afford even the smaller amount of $60.00 on a game like this. What about those who paid the $20.00 cost, why shouldn't they have priority? At some point it could just become a dollar by dollar queue system where we crush those with the least money... or something.
And for all those F2P "moochers", stop acting like the Guardians and Heroes have no right to wanting priority. These guys are pretty much the game's financers. Without them, it wouldn't even be here. It's far better to have a game that you're going to play soon rather than a game that never came out at all. Don't enjoy the pain of the Guardians, because they might have been saving for some time for that purchase (I know some who did), and now all of that anticipation has left them in a queue that means they cannot play after work when someone who saw the game for the first time today downloaded it and got in ahead of them.
Oh, and let's not forget the developers. Stop saying that the queues are short. Stop calling this an "open beta" when to all intents and purposes it's a release (full price purchase options with instant rewards, no character wipes, no subsequent release date announced, I'd even bet the advertising budget was focused on this date). There has been great developer response on this forum, but it's sad to see an overly rosy picture painted of the situation. Just admit you screwed up and keep those apologies coming, so we can all be happy for the gameplay when we actually get to play it!
Right, rant over. I'm done being nasty to everyone, so hopefully we can all be nice to each other soon!
Thank You for this. Far too many have no **** clue.
Of course us Guardians are shafted. We pay $60 more than moochers who are playing this game for free, and we get stuck in the same **** line as them.
Way to **** up PWE.
Thank you, but I paid 20$ for the starter pack (last friday), so I am not a moocher... I think its kinda of a derp-move though to stick Guardians in the same boat as those of us who didn't shell out 60$.
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rexxozMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited April 2013
This is shockingly bad i have to say, there should have been provision for aditional servers to take up the slack for starters... also... big mistake saying Heros get preference in the cue but no mention of Guardians? That is not the way to treat people that have supported your game financially... very bad message you are sending.
Queue position keeps going up and down... ive been waiting for hours! ... if there was any doubt about the server capacity you should not have gone open!
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falcor13Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
So, I'm sitting here eating my popcorn, and laughing at all the dismay. Those that cry, "this is the worst launch ever!!!!!" Seem to remember similar threads for STO, GW2, TOR, LOTRO, Rift, and on, and on, and on. So what does that tell you, this is a pretty standard launch for a highly anticipated game. In less than a year, Elder Scrolls Online will be the worst launch ever.
It is only standard launch cause of people like you allowing these companies to get away with it so stop being a part of the problem and be part of the solution.
There seems to be a lot of hatred between the groups right now, and no-one comes off looking good.
The Heroes seem to be lording it over everyone. Quoting that Guardians should have read what they were purchasing more carefully (during early advertising both were listed as VIP access and only on reading the smaller print did it differentiate, so this can certainly be forgiven!). Given the state of the economies of most purchasing countries right now, paying $200.00 for a game is a pretty nice luxury to have, especially given the extremely harsh exchange rate and taxed us Europeans faced, so I think perhaps the Heroes should be happy they have the money to spend on something like this, without criticising Guardians for wanting priority access.
The Guardians should all just learn to calm down! You don't buy rights over others (unless you're the 1%-ers of the Heroes), you bought a whole lot of useful items for a game that is great fun to play. You've probably been playing this for days and you know that its going to be a game that you'll be playing for weeks to come, and probably a whole lot longer (depending on how the monetisation system pans out!). There is nothing wrong with playing a F2P game for free and there are some people who can't afford even the smaller amount of $60.00 on a game like this. What about those who paid the $20.00 cost, why shouldn't they have priority? At some point it could just become a dollar by dollar queue system where we crush those with the least money... or something.
And for all those F2P "moochers", stop acting like the Guardians and Heroes have no right to wanting priority. These guys are pretty much the game's financers. Without them, it wouldn't even be here. It's far better to have a game that you're going to play soon rather than a game that never came out at all. Don't enjoy the pain of the Guardians, because they might have been saving for some time for that purchase (I know some who did), and now all of that anticipation has left them in a queue that means they cannot play after work when someone who saw the game for the first time today downloaded it and got in ahead of them.
Oh, and let's not forget the developers. Stop saying that the queues are short. Stop calling this an "open beta" when to all intents and purposes it's a release (full price purchase options with instant rewards, no character wipes, no subsequent release date announced, I'd even bet the advertising budget was focused on this date). There has been great developer response on this forum, but it's sad to see an overly rosy picture painted of the situation. Just admit you screwed up and keep those apologies coming, so we can all be happy for the gameplay when we actually get to play it!
Right, rant over. I'm done being nasty to everyone, so hopefully we can all be nice to each other soon!
There's only one small problem with this post... Neither party is a major contributor. A simple Google search for "Perfect World investors" brings up their fact sheet: http://www.pwrd.com/html/en/images/factsheet_n.pdf. (The important part being the price/share).
Sorry guys. Your $200 and $60 and $20 packages are really just a drop in the bucket. You bought a cash shop item before the game released.
Congrats Guardians, you bought 6 shares. Except you didn't because you bought a cash shop item and are in no way an invested party to Perfect World.
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othingarMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited April 2013
Interesting how the Neverwinter community has polarized into a three class society. The rich Heros, middle class Guardians, and welfare F2P.
Someone should do a paper on this forum thread.
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shaudraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
OMG! You people complaining about the high number jump in queue position ... do you read?! READ THE ORIGINAL POST!
Here let me show you ....
Update 1: We’re aware of issues related to queues and are investigating. The abnormally high and fluctuating numbers are a display issue, and we’re working on a fix. We’ll update you with an ETA for the fix as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience!
i want people to stop trolling on others for voicing their opinions
Yet here you are, doing the exact same thing. People are voicing their opinions that some posters are acting like self-entitled mouth-breathers and are calling them out on it and you're trolling them.
What a vicious little cycle we have here.
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sindarialMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 8Arc User
Okay I do not mind waiting to play a game hell ive been waiting since PWE posted that they were in charge of the Never winter MMO. Today is my birthday and i was excited that it came to open beta on my Birthday. what i am complaining about is the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> Que's what the **** thanks for the birthday present.
It is only standard launch cause of people like you allowing these companies to get away with it so stop being a part of the problem and be part of the solution.
There is no problem, because these things are out of our control, it's called a beta for a reason.
So, I'm sitting here eating my popcorn, and laughing at all the dismay. Those that cry, "this is the worst launch ever!!!!!" Seem to remember similar threads for STO, GW2, TOR, LOTRO, Rift, and on, and on, and on. So what does that tell you, this is a pretty standard launch for a highly anticipated game. In less than a year, Elder Scrolls Online will be the worst launch ever.
Lmao I agree, i was there for most of those launches. Im a guardian and i find all this funny as hell.
pure1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
Wow, didnt expect this after forking out 60.00. I am not complaining, just bored in q and was thinking maybe Cryptic will have a look at this thread and realize that they should consider making the q tiered for Guardians also. I am patient and will continue to wait. It is just a suggestion. I am a little disappointed
Yes, paying $60 for a free game should give us this benefit just the same as people that paid more. This seems a bit unfair to pay for a game that we have no more right to play than the people that haven't even logged once.
I believe at this stage of the game (the beginning) Guardians [we] should have priority over "non" paying gamers [them]. However, (I am pretty sure) Cryptic [it] does not want to alienate [them]. The income [it] will get from [them] is more than the $60 [we] gave combined. Since, I am one of the [we] - I want priority (meh).
Finally!!! You are exactly right and people that think otherwise are kidding themselves. The people made a big mistake. Been in plenty of launches that never had near these issues. Hope that their amatuerness doesn't screw the future content of this game.
Yeah they have already managed to drive two games down the toilet, so i have no hopes that they learned anything.
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Are you a Guardian of the North purchaser? Because I don't see your TITLE. Did you forget to use it? We're not mind readers, you know?
Thank You for this. Far too many have no **** clue.
Thank you, but I paid 20$ for the starter pack (last friday), so I am not a moocher... I think its kinda of a derp-move though to stick Guardians in the same boat as those of us who didn't shell out 60$.
Queue position keeps going up and down... ive been waiting for hours! ... if there was any doubt about the server capacity you should not have gone open!
It is only standard launch cause of people like you allowing these companies to get away with it so stop being a part of the problem and be part of the solution.
There's only one small problem with this post... Neither party is a major contributor. A simple Google search for "Perfect World investors" brings up their fact sheet: http://www.pwrd.com/html/en/images/factsheet_n.pdf. (The important part being the price/share).
Sorry guys. Your $200 and $60 and $20 packages are really just a drop in the bucket. You bought a cash shop item before the game released.
Congrats Guardians, you bought 6 shares. Except you didn't because you bought a cash shop item and are in no way an invested party to Perfect World.
Someone should do a paper on this forum thread.
Here let me show you ....
Update 1: We’re aware of issues related to queues and are investigating. The abnormally high and fluctuating numbers are a display issue, and we’re working on a fix. We’ll update you with an ETA for the fix as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience!
Yet here you are, doing the exact same thing. People are voicing their opinions that some posters are acting like self-entitled mouth-breathers and are calling them out on it and you're trolling them.
What a vicious little cycle we have here.
Totally jealous. But, I'm in, so see ya!
Check here : http://nw.perfectworld.com/founderspack
There is no problem, because these things are out of our control, it's called a beta for a reason.
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Lmao I agree, i was there for most of those launches. Im a guardian and i find all this funny as hell.
Yes, paying $60 for a free game should give us this benefit just the same as people that paid more. This seems a bit unfair to pay for a game that we have no more right to play than the people that haven't even logged once.
Yeah they have already managed to drive two games down the toilet, so i have no hopes that they learned anything.
"Honey can you log me in? I get off work in 2 hours and I'd like to be able to play after dinner."
If I wanted queue times like this I'd go back to wow and play on Illidan Horde.
I like how relaxing and not stressing or complaining is being "part of the problem."