They are going to end up making Avenger companion items, RP, Enchanter Coffer drops and everything else you can get on the Gateway or Leadership -- Bound to Account -- after this, just watch...
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morrowind69Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 26Arc User
agree if the RP from the leadership is bind to account then bring back the coal wards in trade bar store & make them bind to account too.
Well The Gateway has been down over a week now....We have gone through 2 - 3 maintnance days (thursday tuesday and thursday) and it is still BROKEN and will prob remain BROKEN....The sad part is not that it has been broke for over a week but that NO BODY has responded to let us know whats going on....we got one update telling us it was reported but since then nothing....Here is a game company that has a great game that many players have payed money for zen and vip status and they treat us like we dont exist .....I have three accounts (mine and my childrens) one of which I have payed well over $500 real dollars into .....my children love the gateway as it gives them something to do on their tablets when they are not playing the game...I am sure that all players would like to know whats going on so stop ignoring us do not keep us in the dark any more fix GATEWAY or at least tell us whats happening
Some of you may have noticed Gateway was up for a bit today. That was a mistake on our end, but it has once again, been closed. We still don't have an ETA on when we'll bring Gateway back.
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It hasn't been broken. It was purposely taken offline. It came up today, probably accidentally, and worked find as far as I could tell until they took it back down again.
It's utterly ridiculous that they've made no official statement. I can't wait to see how they spin it or how they spin the silence. At this point they own us not only an explanation about the Gateway, but also why they handled it this way (no notice, no announcement of any kind, no explanations, no simple acknowledgement other than Strumslinger's off the cuff mention here).
2. Start banning accounts that are identified as botting and gold selling accounts. You already have the ability to identify them as you have told us by saying the Gateway is shut down due to it happening.
There's a significant difference between knowing something is occurring, and knowing the people doing it are violating the TOS. It's one thing to detect a large cash "gift", and trace the money back to see the money was made by 100 different characters doing profession tasks (or whatever) over and over.
However just because somebody is running profession tasks over and over doesn't mean they are a gold seller. (or even a botter)
It took like what, half a year for them to sort out the issues with the foundry. So I guess we can expect the gateway to stay down for at least the next few months. As I said earlier, Cryptic find something that's not working as intended, then they completely cut it away and take their time finding SOME solution, not necessarily a good one, while the players are just left with a vacuum where that integral part of the game used to be.
Ask yourself: Do you want to support such a company?
In conclusion once the playfield is even between the botters and all players the profit goes away and the botters will leave on their own mostly. The few remaining botters left will be easy to identy and the account ban will take care of them.
Oh, and that's also flagrantly untrue. Regardless of how "even the playfield is" There will apparently always be people willing to pay to take shortcuts, otherwise there'd be no demand for goldsellers. Even back in the primitive days when gold farmers were literally just people "playing" the game for slave wages in china, with no "advantage", there were goldsellers. The only way to remove the profit is to make gold *literally* worthless, and then you may as well not have gold, selling, trading, etc. at all.
edit: (Hah, found the button... at top, not bottom), all your solution does is get rid of the "casual" botter. Which I'd hope/expect isn't the problem Cryptic is trying to address.
I think the fact that the temp uptime had the gateway with the AH disabled speaks volumes about where the botting issue was though. I don't think what they're doing will fix things though even if it carries over to the main game, (which would be no big deal IMO). Too easy to use the party system to get quest completions. Honestly i'm shocked we haven;t seen worse abuses from the botters, i know what i'd do if i was them, (i won't repeat it, no need to give them idea's), but with multiple accounts and enough knowledge of routing to hide their real locations a 5 man team can make > 100 million AD a month. Maybe more.
Paingiver is not an acurratte or Useful measure of your actual sustained damage output, (i.e DPS), in various ways it lies. For a true idea use ACT. Link below:
EDIT: Turns out taking my little concept and running it would let botters earn >30 billion a month, so yeah. There's that.
Paingiver is not an acurratte or Useful measure of your actual sustained damage output, (i.e DPS), in various ways it lies. For a true idea use ACT. Link below:
To be fair, the fundamental problem isn't, presumably, the bots. It's the people buying gold. I've often wondered why developers don't simply cut the problem off at the source. If you implement strict control over the flow of currency so that people *can't* buy gold, the entire problem goes away.
Which is to say, all trades have to be balanced. I can't go to some gold selling website and buy 1 million gold if I have to trade 1 million gold worth of something back to the person selling it to me.
Now sure, this makes the AH far more complicated. Prices, even on the AH, would be fairly developer determined. Though they could put in some supply/demand aspect so as more people put something up for auction, the price goes down, if there isn't much for sale, the price goes up. However generally speaking you wouldn't be able to simply play the market. No making money by simply buying low and selling high.
And, of course, you can kiss guild banks goodbye. (Unless they develop a similar, "you can only withdraw up to the value of what you've put in")
Personally, I'm sort of of the opinion that the upsides outweigh the downsides of such draconian measures.
Is this some sort of experiement you're conducting to see how it'll effect the economy? We all know how that's gonna turn out. Quit the HAMSTER, bring it back.
Some of you may have noticed Gateway was up for a bit today. That was a mistake on our end, but it has once again, been closed. We still don't have an ETA on when we'll bring Gateway back.
Was Loyal Ring drops accidentally inflated or something? Due to the panic over SCA NEVER BEING AVAILABLE EVER AGAIN!!! the ring prices skyrocketed, and I had time for a single SCA run, netting me a total of 650,000 astral diamonds because I managed to grab two rings in a single run.
I sure hope that doesn't count as an exploit or anything
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someonediesMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,257Arc User
I'm sure 20 mil Vorpals are coming back.
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tripsofthrymrMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,624Community Moderator
I agree - I got to keep my hand in the game on my phone with the 'dice' game while on vacation and while working places I couldn't take the game; and was looking forward to the adventure mentioned in the latest release notes though I don't think I even use those particular seals yet. I play Neverwinter far more since I started mid July than I ever really have my Star Trek, mostly because the Gateway has some fun features and ST:O does not. I am about to cancel my ST:O subscription because I'm tired of being suddenly vastly overpowered in PVE without a carefully built Tier 6 ship; and I might not buy another 6 months' VIP here if this is communicating with customers. I understand if there was a zero day found that they don't want to expose, but a 'hey, yeah we took it down"/"yeah it's going to stay down for at least x days" is just good customer service, community managers.
Ok, I decided that since I had put my foot down and refused to hand over anymore of my very hard-earned spending money to this company until they got the gateway back on (with all functionality) I can amuse myself by posting just what I am spending that extra money on(and the time I would normally spend on the gateway). So, I would normally spend about $20 to $30 per biweekly pay period lately. Here goes: 1 bottle of Citadel sycorax bronze paint, 1 bottle of Vallejo game color blood red, 1 jar of Tamiya plastic cement, a bottle of Vallejo european dust model wash, and 1 can of white Armory primer. And with the time: I painted and sealed my Warhammer Balewind Vortex and got halfway through painting my Magewrath throne. Amazing what a girl can do with some extra time on her hands....Anyone who is doing the same, feel free to join my in my log of purchases.
Its absurd more than a week the gateway down and no ETA when its coming back , not all of us can spend several hours online playing the game , but with the gateway we can still advance our characters in some way.
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It's utterly ridiculous that they've made no official statement. I can't wait to see how they spin it or how they spin the silence. At this point they own us not only an explanation about the Gateway, but also why they handled it this way (no notice, no announcement of any kind, no explanations, no simple acknowledgement other than Strumslinger's off the cuff mention here).
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However just because somebody is running profession tasks over and over doesn't mean they are a gold seller. (or even a botter)
Ask yourself: Do you want to support such a company?
edit: (Hah, found the button... at top, not bottom), all your solution does is get rid of the "casual" botter. Which I'd hope/expect isn't the problem Cryptic is trying to address.
https://github.com/nilsbrummond/Neverwinter-ACT-Plugin
AND if botting is the case shut down and the server.
https://github.com/nilsbrummond/Neverwinter-ACT-Plugin
Which is to say, all trades have to be balanced. I can't go to some gold selling website and buy 1 million gold if I have to trade 1 million gold worth of something back to the person selling it to me.
Now sure, this makes the AH far more complicated. Prices, even on the AH, would be fairly developer determined. Though they could put in some supply/demand aspect so as more people put something up for auction, the price goes down, if there isn't much for sale, the price goes up. However generally speaking you wouldn't be able to simply play the market. No making money by simply buying low and selling high.
And, of course, you can kiss guild banks goodbye. (Unless they develop a similar, "you can only withdraw up to the value of what you've put in")
Personally, I'm sort of of the opinion that the upsides outweigh the downsides of such draconian measures.
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