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Cryptic needs to address the changes in the RP market
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Great, they stopped the bots and now we're stuck with stacks of r5s at 35k+, lesser thaum/union/stability/power at 100k+ etc.
I don't get why there isn't a bigger stink. Basically we're letting Cryptic get away with the equivalent of removing AD from leadership and do nothing about it.
I don't get why there isn't a bigger stink. Basically we're letting Cryptic get away with the equivalent of removing AD from leadership and do nothing about it.
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I am done with my artifacts on my main but there is still 15 or so rank10 enchantments and bonding stones to refine
All they really want is for the rest of us to throw up our hands and quit and move along, this game is not designed for anyone longer then 6 months in game.
First it was leadership, elol set, now it's botted RP and next it'll be bonding runestones. They won't be happy until they're taking five years to get a toon to 3k and then that toon takes an hour to do elol.
Decent rewards from gameplay or leadership ad back imo.
Artifact and enchant refinement were designed with 'cheap' R4s in the calculation. Now they deleted it and we will have a moderate reaction after careful deliberation in 1/2 - 1 year.
The only reason the prices for R12s etc did not skyrocket is, that they get sold by ppl who stop playing and not with the in game costs in mind. Just think about t. weapon enchants. To build one from scratch you would need 17 coal wards, GMOPs, SMOPs and refinement points for way more then 10 million ADs, but you can get them for 3-7 million ADs.
If you are a long time player with BIS gear, good for you. If you are new to the game, good luck pushing you IL above 2.5.
these outgrown r1-r6 are not that needed and will soon to be flooded auction house senselessly. there going to be a major "undercutting war" very soon.
Running LS on many chars was neither botting nor exploiting, LS itself was a stupid move by cryptic and blaming the players for the flaws in their game design is lame.
Lesser enchants sell for ~120-175k (vorpal, dread, feytouched), so lets be generous and say ~175k a piece. That's 1.4m. Then 3.6m for the coal wards, 200k for the gmops, 750k for the smops. Then you're looking at ~2.3m RP ~947 lesser thaum stones or 4384 r5s. Thaums would be a bit cheaper so ~ 1m for RP.
So ~6.95m AD (could add in the price of greater marks of union/power/stability would push it closer to 7m).
R12 prices haven't been adjusted because people are competing to sell them. Just the price of RP should bump them up 500k to 1m. The supply of all the botted stacks will dry up and then prices will rise again. There just isn't enough supply to force prices down. This is the problem that Xbox has been facing for ages and it's hard to believe the result will be significantly different.
Simply put I think they dont think of all the ramifications, I really dont. Its like the unified elements shooting up.. woops, we forget we made everyone need those.. we will get back to you ... umm soon (crickets)
They dont play the game every day really, nor do I think most of them know whats actual possible in game, until we show them.
We are searching for slave labor, will pay with food from our farm!
Before leadership AD nerf, people got AD from leadership to buy RP (probably sold by bots).
After leadership AD nerf, people got RP from leadership.
IMO, the real big change is c-ward.
Personally, it did not get worse for me because although I do not get much AD, I also don't spend much.
Before leadership AD nerf, I could only support one playable character.
Now, I can support 3 .. and thinking about the 4th.
- "We've accepted that X is a problem. It's driving away our players and hurting profit margins. We're working on a solution."
- Wait a few months not doing anything about it.
- Spend all of 5 minutes nerfing it. aka "Oh snap, I forgot I was even enrolled in this class and today's the final!" syndrome.
- 10 seconds later, watch as the playerbase is in arms about how ill-conceived, ham-fisted, unintelligent, and harmful the changes are.
- Watch as some of them leave.
- Silence.
- Let players complain about the issues that have been created for several months.
- Goto Step 1.
- Acquire more players and money!
It's flawless, really.That said, the leadership nerf was a good thing. There's a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE difference between "the ZAX is close to 500" and "the ZAX is at 500". It was still ham-fisted and unintelligent, though. Like so many other nerfs--the skill node nerf of most recent memory--they went with the easiest, most brain-dead solution and basically just commented out a part of the code with absolutely ZERO recognition of or attention to the consequences, the balance, or the gameplay. We've got an entire profession most of whose tasks are completely useless, and not because power creep has rendered them that way (like most other professions) but because Cryptic just cuts entire limbs off of patients and calls it a cure for the common cold! These fixes seriously took all of 5 minutes of actual work, and while the AD nerf to leadership had a great side effect, nobody wins any accolades other than Slacker of the Century for that.
I don't have army of alt's, but before LS nerf it took less time to be able to purchase r12 (sure there wasn't coffer then)
So maybe in 7 years normal player can achieve BIS status, but as we know gear changes so quickly that BIS status is beyond reach without serious money investment.
What they could do to make things better and get some money for the company: Increase VIP ranks, more drops, better drops etc... Everyone happy?
Before the AD nerf, my army could support 1 character.
After the nerf, my army can support 3 characters.
I do need AD for GMOP, SMOP.
I have 12 characters in my "army" but only 8 can make RP. The other 4 are mainly for storage purpose.
Maybe some rare person use astral... but no...we do not have.
Sometimes we have people with simple clicker script..but no bot. And amount of this players is not so big like on Dragon.
We never used skillnodes.
This game is free-2-play, not free-2-win. Quicker advancement means spending more time or more Zen. Simple as that.
for example my guild is requiring 40 purple caches by everyone every week.
it costs me nothing but loggin in for a couple of minutes every day with an initial cost of 100k for purple quality tools.
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There were no SMoPs before the leadership nerf. Stacks of rank 5s were also 1/4 of what they are now : \
That's kind of crazy when you consider how the market was drowning in AD.