Great guide! Especially the portion on AD generation. That part was just phenomenal! The guy who wrote that deserves a free vorpal enchant!
In all seriousness, this is a great source of information, far better than my puny little guide. It's also... 50 pages longer than my guide? Like I said, this is great
Fully understand now that I actually read the encounter section, instead of skimming it. And here I thought I knew everything about these encounters (obviously not)...thanks for the information.
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To add to this, I have created a CW channel called "Mages Guild" for anyone interested in being a part of a CW channel. Considering the DC's and the GF's have one I think it seems appropriate and considering we are the most active class in this game (at least it sure feels that way!) we should have a channel of our own
Woaaaaaw very nice, the guide seems amazing i skipped to the part that i wanted to see MoF oppressor and i'm not taking your build, sorry glacial movement is far too fun to pass out. I'll read a bit more now. One more thing, do you have any clue about elol set nerf?
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Woaaaaaw very nice, the guide seems amazing i skipped to the part that i wanted to see MoF oppressor and i'm not taking your build, sorry glacial movement is far too fun to pass out. I'll read a bit more now. One more thing, do you have any clue about elol set nerf?
I don't, it may get nerfed, or it may not but since I have it, I will stick with it until the devs either make something better, or nerf it and won't worry about it till then.
The orcus set seems very nice for somebody wanting to get a balance between endurance and damage, apart from that, i dont see valindra set or costum set beating elol set even if it get's nerfed to "unbufable".
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I think the bit about High Vizier may be outdated. Unlike High Prophet (which is still awesome because it's percentage based) HV subtracts stat points. With the new stat curves in play from mod6, I don't know that this still translates to a 30% debuff, or if it's more of a 3.5% debuff these days.
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I think the bit about High Vizier may be outdated. Unlike High Prophet (which is still awesome because it's percentage based) HV subtracts stat points. With the new stat curves in play from mod6, I don't know that this still translates to a 30% debuff, or if it's more of a 3.5% debuff these days.
It is still 30%. its easy to test. It doesn't work on the new stat curves and is completely independent from them. To test: hit a monster a bunch of times with some at will. cast steal time (with the HV set on) hit a bunch of times again You should see a 30% effectiveness increase on the combat log.
A great guide with tons of never before published information. Awesome work guys.
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The great disparity between elol and other sets.. will not make elol less worthwhile even with a "fix" btw a drop of say 15% dps off from it from this set on CWs , would still make it way better then ANY other set by 10X.
This is the great flaw in the debate.. there is simply NOTHING out there worth taking over elol set.. even after a fix.
BTW what does this "fix" do do dps classes that only get a 5-10% bump up from elol.. make it a 2-3% bump?
I think they need to be careful here.. its literally two classes that make elol set over the top.
A. CW.. which makes CW dps competitive and B. GWF that makes them god like.
I think if they actually just fix the interaction of GWF set it would rebalance the entire thing to a acceptable level.
I think the bit about High Vizier may be outdated. Unlike High Prophet (which is still awesome because it's percentage based) HV subtracts stat points. With the new stat curves in play from mod6, I don't know that this still translates to a 30% debuff, or if it's more of a 3.5% debuff these days.
The buff to your own defense is still 450 defense per stack, but the debuff itself is 10%
In other words, for each stack of HV on your enemy, they are debuffed by 10%. Each stack of HV on yourself grants you an additional 450 defense (1.12% DR).
The great disparity between elol and other sets.. will not make elol less worthwhile even with a "fix" btw a drop of say 15% dps off from it from this set on CWs , would still make it way better then ANY other set by 10X.
This is the great flaw in the debate.. there is simply NOTHING out there worth taking over elol set.. even after a fix.
BTW what does this "fix" do do dps classes that only get a 5-10% bump up from elol.. make it a 2-3% bump?
I think they need to be careful here.. its literally two classes that make elol set over the top.
A. CW.. which makes CW dps competitive and B. GWF that makes them god like.
I think if they actually just fix the interaction of GWF set it would rebalance the entire thing to a acceptable level.
He is really dedicated in terms of testing! If you want to learn something about this class.. read this!
What's the new set bonus? what are the stats on belt ?
If elol set was to be fixed so that it does only 1,5k damage per hit, I think valindra set would be better, only because of the stats on belt which are 100% useless on lostmauth set.
The great disparity between elol and other sets.. will not make elol less worthwhile even with a "fix" btw a drop of say 15% dps off from it from this set on CWs , would still make it way better then ANY other set by 10X.
This is the great flaw in the debate.. there is simply NOTHING out there worth taking over elol set.. even after a fix.
BTW what does this "fix" do do dps classes that only get a 5-10% bump up from elol.. make it a 2-3% bump?
I think they need to be careful here.. its literally two classes that make elol set over the top.
A. CW.. which makes CW dps competitive and
B. GWF that makes them god like.
I think if they actually just fix the interaction of GWF set it would rebalance the entire thing to a acceptable level.
He is really dedicated in terms of testing! If you want to learn something about this class.. read this!
What's the new set bonus? what are the stats on belt ?
If elol set was to be fixed so that it does only 1,5k damage per hit, I think valindra set would be better, only because of the stats on belt which are 100% useless on lostmauth set.
Very good guide, thank you. You mention for Phantasmal Destruction that if you have high crit severity that it has reduced effectiveness. What is the point you consider this to be? With the two crit sev. companions and one boon I have 105% sheet crit severity as well as a trans. Vorpal.
Would it be better to put all 5 points into Nightmare Wizardry and/or swap out one of the crit severity companions?
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thefabricantMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 5,248Arc User
Very good guide, thank you. You mention for Phantasmal Destruction that if you have high crit severity that it has reduced effectiveness. What is the point you consider this to be? With the two crit sev. companions and one boon I have 105% sheet crit severity as well as a trans. Vorpal.
Would it be better to put all 5 points into Nightmare Wizardry and/or swap out one of the crit severity companions?
I would swap out 1 or both of the crit severity companions with companions that provide a percentage damage increase. Siege master, wild hunt rider and the archons, or a blink dog/intellect devourer being examples.
Very good guide, thank you. You mention for Phantasmal Destruction that if you have high crit severity that it has reduced effectiveness. What is the point you consider this to be? With the two crit sev. companions and one boon I have 105% sheet crit severity as well as a trans. Vorpal.
Would it be better to put all 5 points into Nightmare Wizardry and/or swap out one of the crit severity companions?
I would swap out 1 or both of the crit severity companions with companions that provide a percentage damage increase. Siege master, wild hunt rider and the archons, or a blink dog/intellect devourer being examples.
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To test:
hit a monster a bunch of times with some at will.
cast steal time (with the HV set on)
hit a bunch of times again
You should see a 30% effectiveness increase on the combat log.
This is the great flaw in the debate.. there is simply NOTHING out there worth taking over elol set.. even after a fix.
BTW what does this "fix" do do dps classes that only get a 5-10% bump up from elol.. make it a 2-3% bump?
I think they need to be careful here.. its literally two classes that make elol set over the top.
A. CW.. which makes CW dps competitive and
B. GWF that makes them god like.
I think if they actually just fix the interaction of GWF set it would rebalance the entire thing to a acceptable level.
new set doesnt appear to be a CW set
BTW great job @thefabricant
He is really dedicated in terms of testing! If you want to learn something about this class.. read this!
or http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Harper_Bard
In other words, for each stack of HV on your enemy, they are debuffed by 10%. Each stack of HV on yourself grants you an additional 450 defense (1.12% DR).
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If elol set was to be fixed so that it does only 1,5k damage per hit, I think valindra set would be better, only because of the stats on belt which are 100% useless on lostmauth set.
Power, Arpen, and Crit? How is that useless?
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Would it be better to put all 5 points into Nightmare Wizardry and/or swap out one of the crit severity companions?
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