incase you guys haven't noticed since module 6->7 they only focused on economy. leadership, stronghold etc. just to remove the AD from the game, little by little they are takin everything, and people still support their decisions. how can you say "our policy doesn't allow us to have 2 items in both tradebar store and zen market" after 8 modules, after freakin 8 modules, like you guys did not see them or what? for 8 modules 8modules x3 months for 2 years. Isn't this way to convienient?
It is a sugar coated truth. Truth is, the Tarmalune Bars are being used by 3RD Party Sellers to undersell the Zen store.
andorrabellMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 437Arc User
edited February 2016
Add preservation wards to VIP rewards. Like 5/day Increase rate of Coal Wards from Invoking rewards. Make these things account bound if you must.
We all knew this is coming if we were paying attention, but that doesn't mean there isn't going to be RAGE.
If I happened to not have access to the game tonight I would be FURIOUS.
Some tidbits just now from our guild channel (all different people): " yeah might be taking a hiatus here now too. terrible update after terrible update cash grab bs. already maxxed out stat wise, but who the hell will be left to do runs with at this rate"
".*Swear word* this stupid *swear word* game"
"its funny.. i knew it was coming, i just knew it , but im still sort of pissed off"
im from the x box side....cant say this was not written on the wall the past week from all the talk of balancing both x box and pc to be setup the same. , be thankful you have chance to buy up all you need before the change takes effect.
I was so surprised and happy when I saw the coalescent wards in the store. I have VIP membership and I finally could afford to do a few upgrades I could never do because I couldn't afford the kind of money the Zen market required for the wards. Now, it goes right back to how it was before. No hope of advancing, just like it was before. I, as a customer and player, feel that this is a slap in the face and a solid way to make loyal players find a new place to spend their money. This is obviously a choice born in hatred for your customers. Maze Engine or not, this might just break you. I'm very sorry that you hate us so much as to implement a cruel restriction on us who love the game.
Cryptic announces that it's officially time for everyone to find another game to play.
This was the one true benefit of VIP that made me feel like it was okay to slowly grind my way up to better gear. It is literally the one and only reason I put money into this game at any point ever. That at least I could convert all my failboxes into something actually useful in a time span which isn't HAMSTER-up insane. There goes that, and with no announcement or plan for anything that could fill the void. Just some BS bribe to make the people this doesn't affect feel happy, and rub salt in the wound of those it does. What's the benefit of VIP now? Or even playing?
I might go back to playing games whose core game mechanics HAMSTER me off to no end than keep playing NeverGetsBetter Online.
The VIP takes time. People who bought VIP for a long time are expecting to get cheap wards. This is like a contract. And you just break this contract. There is no excuse you could do that.
i feel that gold diggers must have used at elast 40 boxes of towels so far with this announcement. zens are already going up since gold diggers are already happy to sell you zens and ad to buy zens xD arc loses once again. DFO here i come
I want whats left from my 180 days of VIP, since there is no point in being a vip anymore. Also there is no point in using your enchanted keys since the chance of finding somethink other than companion kit and profession stuff is near to impossible.
This is my first and only post I will make on arc games forum. Due to this removal of trade bars as well as the mod 6/7 implementation and focusing the game more as a pay2win, I quit. Game is now uninstalled. Good luck to you all.
or is it a solution you found to fix the xbox players being really mad at you? "so why don't we remove wards from PC players so xbox players will feel better about us?"
I know there were a lot of questions regarding the Tradebar Store line in our announcement for Underdark yesterday. We have some further clarification for you.
Coalescent Wards will not be leaving the stores and pricing will not increase. Prices are still being adjusted and we will have more information soon. Rest assured we’re listening to community feedback. In terms of other items, we’re evaluating pricing and looking to make it more worthwhile to engage with the store. Again more information will be released in the near future.
NW Team
Sweet, I know this is an old quote,and I'll get told off for using it, but I love how you guys evaluated things and made it sooo much more worthwhile to engage with the store, tell me what else have you added,(I don't think the removal of ANYTHING, except bugs, makes an asset more useful) or re-costed since the changes? Oh right bupkiss.
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juleadreamMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 372Arc User
"negative effect on the economy". Translation: people weren't paying for them with real money. Except that they were, at 10 dollars a month. Extremely short-sighted. How many VIPs will be effectively cancelled over this? The only way you might (emphasis on might) get through this with a small fraction of player goodwill would be a DRASTIC reduction in the cost of these in the Zen store. $10 to upgrade ONE enchantment? After this, I can't see anyone paying that. Drop the price to $1. Seriously. They'll sell like crazy if you do. What would you rather have, 100 players spending $1 each, or 0 players spending $10? This move is a complete and utter fail.
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ionvnegativoMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 119Arc User
i dont insult you more because my main is spanish and i dont know more words in english
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baalhashmalMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 65Arc User
Could we get some more finer details as to how exactly this hurts the economy? For me, I felt as having the Coalescent Wards in the Trade bar store encouraged me to buy enchanted keys (or further extend my VIP service).
For now, I will speak with my wallet. Thanks for the update, Cryptic. However, I feel it is a very terrible decision.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
What this really hurts is..
A. new players (a ton) and B.. anyone who likes to play alts.
Sadly game will go on.. I do encourage everyone not to spend actual money on cwards.. That was my stand well before they put them in the actual tbar store.. I always thought it was a outrageous amount of money.
They never quite understood pricing.
I was finally ok with pricing.. blah on them.
How can they even think of doing this.. moves grinding for new players from 6-8 months or so back towards a year +.. what frauds.
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
Let me think. every bot has a vip ofcourse they have since is not hard to buy it for them. Today they will buy zen with ad to get lockboxes.They will get some good rewards ( axe beak etc)+ tarmalune tradebars. They will convert tarmalune to coalescents-preservations. AND then they will sell for real money in gold sites or very expensive to get ad to sell to gold sites. 2nd category: players earned fortune of ad from astral resonators (perma rich) buy zen with their unlimited astral diamonds do the same control-break economy. 3rd category: normal players farmed and do the same. 4th category: players didnt sit to their pc because of job or anything in real life, missed patch notes: fair???????????????
What was the purpose ? Poeple to buy zen and then rich +bots buy the zen with ad?
A simple plan could be and would have the same result without harm anyone ( i mean money for you) MAKE COALESCENT,PRESERVATIONS, RUBIES BOUND ACOUNT INSTEAD REMOVE THEM.
Yay more money to spend on CSGO skins and ..... hmmm maybe a new mouse pad? Yah not paying a dime for the zen store. 10 dollars for a coal ward? are you freaking high? 30-40 dollars for a mount? man you guys hit the nail on the head with micro transactions, where do you live? If you reduced all Zen prices by 90% I bet you would actually make more money than you have made in the last year off the dying player base you have left.
I am fifteen days into my first six month VIP. I opted to be patient and acquire coal wards over time. You just nonchalantly changed the value of something two weeks after I purchased it...
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Increase rate of Coal Wards from Invoking rewards.
Make these things account bound if you must.
We all knew this is coming if we were paying attention, but that doesn't mean there isn't going to be RAGE.
If I happened to not have access to the game tonight I would be FURIOUS.
Some tidbits just now from our guild channel (all different people):
" yeah might be taking a hiatus here now too. terrible update after terrible update cash grab bs. already maxxed out stat wise, but who the hell will be left to do runs with at this rate"
".*Swear word* this stupid *swear word* game"
"its funny.. i knew it was coming, i just knew it , but im still sort of pissed off"
https://www.theholycrusaders.com/
Face it, a LOT of people bought into VIP because the tbars from the daily key meant a steady supply of wards even if you didn't score big.
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, be thankful you have chance to buy up all you need before the change takes effect.
have fun in under dark everyone!!
it was bad..
but .. we get to spend more money on mounts now! so be happy.
Cryptic announces that it's officially time for everyone to find another game to play.
This was the one true benefit of VIP that made me feel like it was okay to slowly grind my way up to better gear. It is literally the one and only reason I put money into this game at any point ever. That at least I could convert all my failboxes into something actually useful in a time span which isn't HAMSTER-up insane. There goes that, and with no announcement or plan for anything that could fill the void. Just some BS bribe to make the people this doesn't affect feel happy, and rub salt in the wound of those it does. What's the benefit of VIP now? Or even playing?
I might go back to playing games whose core game mechanics HAMSTER me off to no end than keep playing NeverGetsBetter Online.
Your greediness is only matched by the bravery of making such decisions on a game that is almost dead anyway.
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zens are already going up since gold diggers are already happy to sell you zens and ad to buy zens xD
arc loses once again. DFO here i come
For now, I will speak with my wallet. Thanks for the update, Cryptic. However, I feel it is a very terrible decision.
Cleric: Marquis Elmdore - Current Main
Wizard: Iamblichus
Fighter: Anna the Titan
Barbarian: Anann Valkyrja
Ranger: Minerva Cory'phaia
Warlock: Suri Coralyne Reid
Guild: She Looked Level 18.
Alliance: Imperium
A. new players (a ton)
and
B.. anyone who likes to play alts.
Sadly game will go on.. I do encourage everyone not to spend actual money on cwards.. That was my stand well before they put them in the actual tbar store.. I always thought it was a outrageous amount of money.
They never quite understood pricing.
I was finally ok with pricing.. blah on them.
How can they even think of doing this.. moves grinding for new players from 6-8 months or so back towards a year +.. what frauds.
2nd category: players earned fortune of ad from astral resonators (perma rich) buy zen with their unlimited astral diamonds do the same control-break economy.
3rd category: normal players farmed and do the same.
4th category: players didnt sit to their pc because of job or anything in real life, missed patch notes: fair???????????????
What was the purpose ? Poeple to buy zen and then rich +bots buy the zen with ad?
A simple plan could be and would have the same result without harm anyone ( i mean money for you) MAKE COALESCENT,PRESERVATIONS, RUBIES BOUND ACOUNT INSTEAD REMOVE THEM.
That will be the last purchase I make from PWE.