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Perfect Bonding runestones Versus Ioun stones
doublea2015
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Yes I have information I would like to share about the Bonding runestones versus a Ioun stone, I have come to relize that ioun stones are a thing of the past for me and I get much more DPS from having 3 perfect or 3 greater bonding runestones on a fire archon then I would with a stone, the reason this is a ioun stone of allure = 100% of the companions stats, 100% that's it lol, well 3 greater bonding or 3 perfects = 150% to 195% of companions stats add that in with avenger gear for your companion and it makes it way better then the ioun stone, sure ioun stones are nice but only 1 stone is worth having which is black dragon ioun stone and the reason for that is just the active bonus.
The primary reason I said Fire Archon is because of the fact that a fire archon @ epic or legendary seems to be a greater chance of imediatlly or quickly getting 3 stacks of companions gift from the bonding runestones as intended, this type of setups requires 3 greaters or 3 perfects no less or it is ineffective.
I recently had some folks test this out for me, bonding runestones are working as intended this is not a exploit, this is intended for taking your DPS to the next level, enjoy the information and don't knock it until you test it or try it, these tests im speaking of where done within past 3 days, and I have been using this setup for good 3+ months now and I know bonding runestones have been out almost a year now from the seems of things, im glad im able to finnaly put the Bonding runestones to real use and get the most DPS out of my character as possible.
please again don't knock it till you have taking this to test server and used 3 perfect bondings on a fire archon or cambion magus with avenger gear
The primary reason I said Fire Archon is because of the fact that a fire archon @ epic or legendary seems to be a greater chance of imediatlly or quickly getting 3 stacks of companions gift from the bonding runestones as intended, this type of setups requires 3 greaters or 3 perfects no less or it is ineffective.
I recently had some folks test this out for me, bonding runestones are working as intended this is not a exploit, this is intended for taking your DPS to the next level, enjoy the information and don't knock it until you test it or try it, these tests im speaking of where done within past 3 days, and I have been using this setup for good 3+ months now and I know bonding runestones have been out almost a year now from the seems of things, im glad im able to finnaly put the Bonding runestones to real use and get the most DPS out of my character as possible.
please again don't knock it till you have taking this to test server and used 3 perfect bondings on a fire archon or cambion magus with avenger gear
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The companions I use are the Renegade Illusionist as my active, Cambion Magus and Erinyes for 20% more crit severity, Earth Archon and Air Archon for their damage bonuses.
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I published an blogg entry about this at neverwinter uncensored and also made info posts about this on this forum.
A *flying* imp companion too! =X So I went back to my stone.
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but 5 earth archons do make everyone's life easier. unless your the tank trying to keep the mob facing away from squishies
Here are some well, less then positive results.
A. non augment pets die.. I mean alot, while dead you cannot receive the bonding benefit. There is a limit to there auto re summoning, something I didnt know about.. but during boss fights, you could easily find yourself with NO PET.
B. Only a small # of pets attack fast enough to make it worthwhile, limiting you to some offensive pets (btw their damage is pretty weak, even at legendary. )
C. They will engage in the worst sort of aggro at the most awkward times, pulling in extra groups when you do not WANT any..
D. Like stated above, its only good for certain fast attacking offensive pets, its worthless to stack defensive pets or healers with it. Making this process a limited value. Stating that things hit hard, but you cant even bring a tank pet to the fight is worthless, they should proc off anything a pet does.
The real issue here is risk vs reward, you can receive more stat boosts , but its not "that " much more vs the risk the pet will aggro/die at the wrong times on you.
Not saying not to do it, but every time I hear stones are dead.. its sort of mis represented. There is always a group out there that wants them to go away for some reason.
You wont go wrong getting a stone. not saying this method isnt valid either, but to say this offers a ton more benefits is just a tad mis represented.
It depends on the pet, situation, group. If you run with all sorts of randoms like I do , all the time, I will keep my stones.
It puts the stacks up pretty fast too!
Not true. All companions are designed in a specific way. Only some really old ones have cooldowns on abilities like 5 seconds but most of them use bleeding, poision or other DOT abilities and the Bonding Runestone Buff can still be activated over an DOT.
The average DPS of an Striker at Legendary is low. It is around 4,000 DPS. An Average Damage Dealer Class can deal around 30,000 to 50,000 DPS in a Dungeon group. But some Strikers grant other buffs like Combat Advantage on one target they attack or reduce armor on a target.
That is true, but only if your group want to skip monster group and want to cheat his way through a dungeon. I Never saw an companion pull two groups at a times that are like 50-100 feet away.
Like i said. Not true. There are pets that start the buff a bit faster than other but not that much (like 2-3 seconds). Defender Companions are at Epic Quality damage immun against AOE Attacks. If you gear up such an Defender with threat generating gear he can tank for example the first boss in lostmauth and one scorpion. Single target boss can kill him but you can slot an Bell of Lliiraa to grant him total damage immunity for 10-20 seconds. The chance that he dies is at higher levels pretty rare. Don't get me wrong, he receive damage but expert defender has a higher battle regeneration. YES they regenerate health in combat.
Healer or so called Leader Companions can grant great buffs for a group. The priestess of sehahnine moonbow grants a buff equal to half her level in critical chance. This means if the companion is level 30 you get +15% additional critical chance. The buff remain 8 seconds active and every 8 seconds she cast it again. It is a buff area and eveyone in the area gets this buff (while enemies are debuffed and get -30% critical chance). The Bard is a leader and buffs critical strike and power while decreasing outgoing damage and damage resistance of enemies. And there are a lot more good buff and heal companions.
It is a little bit. If you like the stat boost and doesn't want an active companion an ioun stone, cat or other augment companion it is. It is your time in the game, do whatever bring you fun.
I run all the time with my Yeti Defender Companion and randoms. It is great and makes a lot easier if your group miss a proper tank.
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Too many people judge a companion by how it looks on paper.
As for me, my main concern when judging a companion is how it performs in difficult boss fights.
Did you measure the total time of each run? With which companion did you get the quickest runs?
There is only one on the AH. It's price is 20-25Mil AD.
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And if your Fire Archon doesn't procc the buff because the combat is too short then you are simply not in need of any buff at all because the fight is less than 15 seconds.
I can't say Companions are a bad choice for any other class since I don't play any others competitively, but I will most definitely rule out for a GWF as for now (unless companions get an additional buff and more testing will be conducted). Also my equips already got rads in them on both the character and the companion, the archon had like 40k HP total.
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AND if he would really test them both he would have made 2 or 3 observations that make an legendary active companion far superior as an legendary ioun stone.
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