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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited September 2015

    regenerde said:

    About running dungeons and skirmishes, right now, you can not even get 5 players together for some skirmish run anymore... any Devs would like to step forward and fill those empty slots, so that we can actually make those runs to get rAD/seals?

    The queue seems barren lately. I have tank, heal, and dps toons. I usually try queuing all my toons thinking the queue should pop immediately for one of them. But sadly I still end up waiting in the queue.
    I'm not asking to get something for free or standing around in PE, but there should be viable options to make rAD within playing the game.

    Campaign, daily and story quests should reward the player with rAD acording to his level. That would at least give us some rAD to play for, while we're waiting for a skirmish or dungeon run with enough players on board...
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    sm0ld3r said:

    So, any ideas yet on how solo players can generate AD? The new prices are nice, but if a players generation rate is zero, any price is meaningless.

    Exactly my point. All this did was reduce the price of a 20 Million dollar mansion to 10 Million when people are making minimum wage.

    ALL AD sinks need to go or be reduced by at least 80%.

    It boggles my mind that this has restored peoples faith.

    All those sinks were introduced at a time when you could run DK or T2 dungeons and earn 500K to 1M a week minimum doing content.
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User

    One step in the right direction.

    However, that does not make up for the 5 steps in the wrong direction. You're still a little off course so keep making these positive moves and our faith in the developers will start to be restored.

    They were still on grace from Mod 6. You have more faith than I. This is 2 major game-breaking upsets this year in addition to the hundreds of undocumented rules changes from the weekly patches. NW is a VERY unstable place.
  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Mis-read. Enchants & gear not effected.
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  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Right. In case you hadn't been paying attention, the goal wasn't to make upgrading Rank 10+ enchantments cheaper, it was to make upgrading Rank 9 or less enchantments cheaper.

    That, and artifacts.
  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User

    Right. In case you hadn't been paying attention, the goal wasn't to make upgrading Rank 10+ enchantments cheaper, it was to make upgrading Rank 9 or less enchantments cheaper.

    That, and artifacts.

    I was assuming that a "superior" version would be worth more then a "greater" version.
    i.e What required 5 GMoPs would require 2 or 3 SMoPs.




  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    deathbeez said:

    I went to upgrade my perfect lifedrinker that used to cost 5 greater marks of potency at 100k for a 500k total.
    Now, it costs 5 superior marks of potency at 100k for a 500k total.
    The difference in cost=0.
    Good job.

    indeed this was a pretty low move
  • darkstarcrashdarkstarcrash Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    It's not a low move, they stated quite clearly what the costs would be.

    They wanted to make it easier for the average player to get to rank 10 enchantments, and mythic/legendary artifacts.

    Rank 11 &12 enchantments (pure and transcendent for weapon/armor) are supposed to be a big deal to reach.
  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    I agree, rank11 and 12 are pretyu much a luxury, and as so, they are bound to be expensive.
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  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User
    My bad Homies... Didn't read the fine print that gear and enchants aren't getting touched (btw, why not?)
    I had my hopes up, like yay, can finally afford to upgrade something that doesn't require 2 years of refinement point grinding.
    Not sure if adding 20 extra points to an enhance stone is worth 25Gs + wards, but w/e.
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  • kemnimtarkaskemnimtarkas Member Posts: 838 Arc User
    So we get GMoPs and MoPs for less, but FS still go for $30k??? For a lousy 5k RP? I can earn far more than that for free just working through 1 cycle of quests in Stronghold with blue RP drops.

    And the price for 1 ID scroll is still 125. Are you kidding me? So much for reacting to customer feedback.

    Way to go PWE customer service team! You really know how to underwhelm and let down the people who keep you employed!

  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    @kemnimtarkas Relax. More costs are being looked and and will be addressed.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited September 2015

    So we get GMoPs and MoPs for less, but FS still go for $30k??? For a lousy 5k RP? I can earn far more than that for free just working through 1 cycle of quests in Stronghold with blue RP drops.

    And the price for 1 ID scroll is still 125. Are you kidding me? So much for reacting to customer feedback.

    Way to go PWE customer service team! You really know how to underwhelm and let down the people who keep you employed!

    Sigh! Who would buy ID scroll from AD shop? 125 AD was a bad price when leadership AD was not nerf'ed. Nobody sane would buy from there. Same for MOP. Nobody sane would buy MOP from AD shop before and now (after the "price drop").
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  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    MoPs are so cheap because they drop so you can buy them off the AH. They're overpriced in the fixed economy because they're available through the player economy.

    That's "Working As Intended."
  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Going from Rank 10->11 will now cost 2 Superior Marks of Potency, instead of 5 Greater Marks of Potency
    Going from Rank 11->12 will now cost 4 Superior Marks of Potency, instead of 5 Greater Marks of Potency

    My perfects and pure all require 5 SMoPs to upgrade.
  • wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    oh yeah, just reminding another problems with que'ing for skirmish/missions, waiting for groups to get fill ques for 30 mins or few hours, and suddenly you are in and then get kick out before they start killing first mobs. they dont say why, it either i have enough item score, or they dont want specific classes i played.

    so, i wait for CTA events, most dont care for item score or being outparsed than anyone. it for free for all.

    sorry for off-topic.

    there was other topic in feedbacks for marks price. i might like these new changes of the cost, but it will take me several weeks for my ADs to rebuilt. i had to invest buying some profession access and get some upgrading to purples, those are too expensive.
    getting black ice crafter gauntlets is way too low and seem far more extreme rare and unreachable, had to sell excessive Cryomancers and it getting AH overflooding with them. that has to change some ratio, most refused donating to strongholds because some players want "Thier money back" situations. they felt cheated and robbed from profession packs and lockboxes.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    Right. In case you hadn't been paying attention, the goal wasn't to make upgrading Rank 10+ enchantments cheaper, it was to make upgrading Rank 9 or less enchantments cheaper.

    That, and artifacts.

    Making rank 9 enchants makes rank 10 enchants cheaper : |
    wylonus said:

    oh yeah, just reminding another problems with que'ing for skirmish/missions, waiting for groups to get fill ques for 30 mins or few hours, and suddenly you are in and then get kick out before they start killing first mobs. they dont say why, it either i have enough item score, or they dont want specific classes i played.

    so, i wait for CTA events, most dont care for item score or being outparsed than anyone. it for free for all.

    So just queue for lower level skirmishes. You don't have to do epic skirmishes.
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  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    aulduron said:

    Going from Rank 10->11 will now cost 2 Superior Marks of Potency, instead of 5 Greater Marks of Potency
    Going from Rank 11->12 will now cost 4 Superior Marks of Potency, instead of 5 Greater Marks of Potency

    My perfects and pure all require 5 SMoPs to upgrade.

    Weapon and armor enchantment prices weren't changed.
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  • novakk1novakk1 Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    man I love how we get HAMSTER and then a mod tells us to relax and just take it :dizzy:
  • mahsakra75mahsakra75 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1 Arc User
    such a changes should be issued at list 2 month before taking place. What with these players who purchase the marks earlier. They were affected by significant losses.
    That is not fair.
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User

    such a changes should be issued at list 2 month before taking place. What with these players who purchase the marks earlier. They were affected by significant losses.

    That is not fair.

    Created an account just to whine?

    Players who purchased to refine did not lose much. Unfortunate, just have to suck it in. Only people with a big exposure are the ones who use GMOPs as currency to trade to circumvent the AH tax. Even then, they had nearly a week to unload their holdings on the AH for 75-85K AD, which was only a bit below the average price GMOPs have been going for. If you were greedy and didn't sell hoping something would change, tough. I hope you lost a lot.
  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    Huh. I've been so amazed that people are so put off by all this but,

    In retrospect, yeah-people must have been using GMOPs as currency. But, it's the people accepting GMOPs that are hurt by this, not the people using GMOPs. See, there's no reason to buy GMOPs unless you're going to use them immediately. But unless the person who accepts GMOPs as currency uses them immediately, yeah-they're accepting a substantial loss of liquidity relative to astral diamonds.

    I guess the moral of the story is, don't use GMOPs unless you're intending on using them.

    Anyway, I don't think people should call people trading things for GMOPs cheaters. After all, you're allowed to trade items for GOLD, so it's not like there's not systems in place.
  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    After the announcement of the changes, prices for GMOPs dropped to 50k for a few minutes, went back to 60k for a few days, went up to 85k and ended up at 65k, when the patch notes were released.

    Most ppl who traded in GMOPs traded them at a value of 75k, bc they have VIP 12. Imo the once who bought them AFTER the announcement for 60k+ paid for their laziness and the ones who wanted to sell for more then 70k and ended up with a big loss, paid for their greed.

    Somebody started an auction with 99 GMOPs after the patch notes were released with a price of 60k+ EACH. I know, it only takes one fool, but really?
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  • ideisaideisa Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    TO THE MAKERS OF THE GAME :expressionless:

    I've been playing since dec last year..love this game, have even bought zen and put some money into it, and although i appreciate alot of the changes thats took place and the lowering of gmops ect..thats jus great...BUT its helping nothing, im on here now trying to up a artifact...besides the normal things needed i had to buy 5 gmops 125,000..ok i can go with that..how much have i spent to get it to legendary, well ive bought 8 wards so far at 5k each, and i had 8 already in the bank...so thats about 80,000..and u know , its still not legendary! but now wards are going for 12k each so im not even doin it..most time i wouldnt be complaining so much, but u know how much AD's i make in about a day now..i made about 8,500 yesterday..thats about a months work to get what ive already spent..n even though i run temple of the spider for the next hour, i wont even be able to afford another ward >.>...this has got way out of hand and for us people like me that play this game every single day for hours...ive been online since 11 this morning...broke and still not advancing...its ruining this game and im sad to see it go. yea i could run tos and some skirmishes continously all day and maybe come out around 15/17k..but then when am i suppose to do all the fun stuff and actually advance my toon in places like wod or iwd, its boring running the same stuff over n over..i dont know what its gonna take to fix the game, but i hope you got some more changes coming soon cuz right now its not worth its:/
  • crypticnotioncrypticnotion Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 45 Arc User
    "stormboundsoul said"

    "Make alts, run fast simple ad giving quests that give rad......use the exchange pool your resources...you actually have to do it...there is no autobatctic automagically working here......it can be done.....be creative....yes you might have to buy more character slots......simple"

    More like play 48hrs in a day.......oh yea there are NOT 48hrs in a day so guess that shoots that idea to %$@# huh. They screwed up and have not stopped HAMSTER up for quite some time now. you go in to fix a small problem that requires a bit of finesse and they use a wrecking ball to do it. Then when your starving to death they throw you a bone with no meat on it and say here chew on this it will tide you over till we decide what we are going to wreck next. THEY want to kill the PC version of the game and all they have to work on is the XBOX. would be wise to bail now before throwing more money down the drain called PW. Or move to Xbox ......lol and that is another bad joke.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    I would rather like to see more actions taken to improve Leadership, or is everything allready focused on Underdark from now on forward?
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    Because it sends a message!
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