i just saw icyphish waiting at gg under enemy spawn
at the end of first quarter of the match
LOL!
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Having a gear gap this wide will ultimately result in empty servers if not reversed.
Behold, the gear/stats gap will further widen in MOD 7 as they gate BIS PVP gears/PVP Boons behind Guild vs Guild PVP (e.g. making 'Fallen Banner' a requirement).
Those who PVP but are in PVE guilds and smaller guilds will have difficulty acquiring them, extending the divide further.
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
i just saw icyphish waiting at gg under enemy spawn
at the end of first quarter of the match
good game? we have zero chance from the beginning. you have strong and weak players. we have weak players and me )) i was the only one with more kills than death in my team.
p.s. i know that GG isnt about kills but when you cant win you at least try kill someone
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
nah ur team had some good players 2OP and 1DC, a really good TR, a strong CW and a decent GF our score were at 950 vs 1000 it wasnt a bad match. Ur team could have very much won the game. The only reason ur team lost is because ur team had 4-5 players that consistently try to kill me for 10-15 mins at node 4 leaving only half of ur team trying to fight the rest of our pugs and thus was disadvantaged, but overall ur team had more decent players.
I stood at ur spawn cus thats one of the most effective way of tunnel visioning ur team and givng them a false illusion that our team had a lot of strong players, its a mind game to intimidate them to give up from leaving the spawn point, and when one of ur teamates starts doing that and more follows then its GG. The score only start to fall apart after a few of ur teammates gave up leaving the spawn area but really if they spread out to cap and leave only a OP or DC to stick to me, I then cant kill much and ur team woukd destoy ours. Its all about mind game
i just saw icyphish waiting at gg under enemy spawn
at the end of first quarter of the match
good game? we have zero chance from the beginning. you have strong and weak players. we have weak players and me )) i was the only one with more kills than death in my team.
p.s. i know that GG isnt about kills but when you cant win you at least try kill someone
drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited July 2015
GG IS all about the mind game. It is why players from one team will rush 1, 2, 3 or 4... to make the other team think something that their opposition is stronger than they are. I have seen my team crumble under such warfare tactics... whereas I was ranked in the Top 5. My game will never be put off due to the play style of the opposition.
I have seen things like this backfire and my team climb back from an initial onslaught. Namely against a 5 man Express premade.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
The best "mindgame" is to discourage people from even queueing for the game in the first place. That way, you don't even need to play PvP. You're just perpetual winners, and the others don't even dare to queue in the first place.
Yes, you premades are sure doing an effective job of killing the PvP in this game.
Stop making excuses. Be a man. If you know something to be broken, stop using it. Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
nah ur team had some good players 2OP and 1DC, a really good TR, a strong CW and a decent GF our score were at 950 vs 1000 it wasnt a bad match. Ur team could have very much won the game. The only reason ur team lost is because ur team had 4-5 players that consistently try to kill me for 10-15 mins at node 4 leaving only half of ur team trying to fight the rest of our pugs and thus was disadvantaged, but overall ur team had more decent players.
I stood at ur spawn cus thats one of the most effective way of tunnel visioning ur team and givng them a false illusion that our team had a lot of strong players, its a mind game to intimidate them to give up from leaving the spawn point, and when one of ur teamates starts doing that and more follows then its GG. The score only start to fall apart after a few of ur teammates gave up leaving the spawn area but really if they spread out to cap and leave only a OP or DC to stick to me, I then cant kill much and ur team woukd destoy ours. Its all about mind game
i just saw icyphish waiting at gg under enemy spawn
at the end of first quarter of the match
good game? we have zero chance from the beginning. you have strong and weak players. we have weak players and me )) i was the only one with more kills than death in my team.
p.s. i know that GG isnt about kills but when you cant win you at least try kill someone
team
i dont think we talk about the same match, dont think it was so close. i write it yesterday european time about yesterday european match
but anyway, maybe that team have numbers but if noobs chasing TR on one node they are not strong. you cant write about strong team
nah ur team had some good players 2OP and 1DC, a really good TR, a strong CW and a decent GF our score were at 950 vs 1000 it wasnt a bad match. Ur team could have very much won the game. The only reason ur team lost is because ur team had 4-5 players that consistently try to kill me for 10-15 mins at node 4 leaving only half of ur team trying to fight the rest of our pugs and thus was disadvantaged, but overall ur team had more decent players.
I stood at ur spawn cus thats one of the most effective way of tunnel visioning ur team and givng them a false illusion that our team had a lot of strong players, its a mind game to intimidate them to give up from leaving the spawn point, and when one of ur teamates starts doing that and more follows then its GG. The score only start to fall apart after a few of ur teammates gave up leaving the spawn area but really if they spread out to cap and leave only a OP or DC to stick to me, I then cant kill much and ur team woukd destoy ours. Its all about mind game
i just saw icyphish waiting at gg under enemy spawn
at the end of first quarter of the match
good game? we have zero chance from the beginning. you have strong and weak players. we have weak players and me )) i was the only one with more kills than death in my team.
p.s. i know that GG isnt about kills but when you cant win you at least try kill someone
team
i dont think we talk about the same match, dont think it was so close. i write it yesterday european time about yesterday european match
but anyway, maybe that team have numbers but if noobs chasing TR on one node they are not strong. you cant write about strong team
I thought he mains a GWF not a TR?
camping at the node in case of a close match? who even cares about one camper at the spot?
Having a gear gap this wide will ultimately result in empty servers if not reversed.
Behold, the gear/stats gap will further widen in MOD 7 as they gate BIS PVP gears/PVP Boons behind Guild vs Guild PVP (e.g. making 'Fallen Banner' a requirement).
Those who PVP but are in PVE guilds and smaller guilds will have difficulty acquiring them, extending the divide further.
Spot on mate!
Small or medium sized guilds will have to choose between either going the PVE or the PVP route. Ok, correction, small guilds will have zero chance. Simply put a bad design.
Mod 7 will get guildies even more divided, not unified, cause for example half of my current toons are PVP and half of them are PVE. Now what should i do, which arm to brake?! Should i go to another guild, if the decision in my guild doesn't favor all my toons? (No option for me, cause i like my guild.)
The very short life cycle of gear will make the power gap even bigger and the fact, that BiS gear will be only available through a strong and wealthy guild will broaden this gap even further.
Devs should really come up with a better approach!
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Are the -Haters- out of DOM, did they get their sweet spot handed to them, cause today night is -Haters- premade night in GG PVP and of course, what happend people got jumping out.
I would love to see just 1 Dev see and acknowledge the fact, that with this tendency GG PVP will be empty in near future, we PUGs will leave it or we will just hop in get ourselves humiliated for that 4k and ciao.
They really should think about it..., with no PVE content, no real Foundry, nearly all Dungeons gone PVP would be the last spot for end game players, emphasis is on "would be".
Every losing premade PVP guild, who can't stand a foot in DOM or is on easy hunt comes to GG PVP. Such a low style.
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
It is an ego boost for insecure people. When they can't hack the abuse at work they go and kick the puppy... who was looking for some rough-housing on the lawn.
The truth hurts... and I do not care if you hate me for saying it. I am writing a book about life... it will be called Brutal Honesty. F'ing life is brutal enough... don't pee on someone's fun time.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
Leadership Council of Civil Anarchy
SYNERGY Alliance
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
dude i did solo queue, ifvwe did premade it would be like 2000 vs 200 or so... and I solo queued 99% of my game....
The best "mindgame" is to discourage people from even queueing for the game in the first place. That way, you don't even need to play PvP. You're just perpetual winners, and the others don't even dare to queue in the first place.
Yes, you premades are sure doing an effective job of killing the PvP in this game.
Yes I'm in the same predicament as you. I love my guild and awesome guildies so in all likelihood, I'll have to forgo PVP or resign to performing at a sub-optimal level in MOD 7 PVP until other modes of acquiring BIS PVP gears/boons come up in late MOD 7 or after...
Small or medium sized guilds will have to choose between either going the PVE or the PVP route. Ok, correction, small guilds will have zero chance. Simply put a bad design.
Mod 7 will get guildies even more divided, not unified, cause for example half of my current toons are PVP and half of them are PVE. Now what should i do, which arm to brake?! Should i go to another guild, if the decision in my guild doesn't favor all my toons? (No option for me, cause i like my guild.)
The very short life cycle of gear will make the power gap even bigger and the fact, that BiS gear will be only available through a strong and wealthy guild will broaden this gap even further.
Devs should really come up with a better approach!
F'ing life is brutal enough... don't pee on someone's fun time.
Ah, if only more people would see the woods from a tree, game would be more fun to play in.
Nonetheless it wouldn't be a big thing for the Devs to divide PVP between a premade onslaught and PUG players, this way everybody would be satisfied and we wouldn't have to cry here on Forums either.
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
Honestly I dont think seperating the Group Queue and Solo Queue is gonna be good enough cus even when that happens then we are gonna see other kind of complains, e.g. 'This game is ridicious, all I can do is solo queue, I cant even play with my friends, each time I go with friends all we face is ridiciously strong BIS teams. we dont even have any chance. why dont u xxxx just make this a single player game cus its no fxxx diff!' trust me there will be ppl that starts all other types of complains if all they do is seperate the queues, the when those average pvp guilds get trashed over and over in premade queues they would then try to time their queues and join the games with semi-full premade then theres gonna be other kinds of complains, eventually its gonna be same <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> all over again.... we need better plans than just that...
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
agreed on this. even if everybody go solo que. gear disparity between players is so ridiculous, that we will still have mainly lopsided matches
Every game is inherently "lopsided" since skill level is different among all players. However, if you think about it, would you prefer it to be lopsided in the way that ALL the high-skill, BiS-through-the-wazoo players are gathered up on one side? Or would you like it better when some of them are distributed and mixed up evenly between teams?
If we rate a player from 0 - 100, just for the heck of it, I'd rather have a game that is:
Essentially, what the trollmades are doing, is what you see right above, in the latter example. They break the randomness of lopsidedness and ensure that their side is ALWAYS superior. Logically speaking this is frankly nothing different from rigging matches in an illegal gambling scam.
In the end, if they can't do about who has better gear, then the least they could do is ensure where they land up is decided by the hands of fate.
"The only morality in a cruel world is chance" - H. Dent, "The Dark Knight"
Stop making excuses. Be a man. If you know something to be broken, stop using it. Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited July 2015
There are some people who will always complain about things in life... and in play. Nothing is every good enough for them because they do not feel good about themselves. Those people... should be ignored and told to STFU.
When there is a legitimate reason to have something, which this is a perfect case, things need to change for the continuing validity of PvP in NWO. Without this change... NO ONE WILL PvP... except for all of the BiS abusers who created this mess in the first place.
Do any of you know what Symbiosis is? It is when something lives in perfect harmony within it's environment. Unless an organism desires the environment to fall apart, they will live in harmony with all of the other organisms.
Again... this is a 'Reap what you Sow' situation.
Last night, I spent 40 minutes queued for GG... that was for 2 matches. Before all of this abuse started happening, the queues would pop within a few minutes, if not seconds.
Funny thing was... it was the first time since the end of the NCL where I did not see one Expresso bean in the match. In fact there wasn't even a premade. Although it seems that there may have been a serious gear or class imbalance... since my side walked away fast.
The second match was an Expresso bean reunion tour. We had some AFKers after a while... that was until I told them to screw with their match. So we would run in random directions... and cap 2 nodes then run to another 2 nodes... and so on. We actually got within 500 pts... that beats the 1000 to 200 that it was.
I also uncovered a reason behind the actions of the Expresso beans... many of them can't PvP without the help of teammates. 1v1 or 2v1 situations... they run or they die fast. Put the shoe on the other foot... and they will act like gods when they kill you 3v1, 4v1 or 5v1.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
Today was no exception in terms of utterly bad sportsmanship and then they come and ask why so many players hate PVP guilds. LOL
In GG PVP we got new "B categrory" fighters, the Black Lotus guys, apperently they can't handle real premades, so they got out to PUGstomping.
In baby PVP entire night Coffee Shoppe's "2nd class" fighters, who also can't handle the real heat, so they were out on easy PUG hunt.
BUT it fills my heart with joy, when i am on my <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> geared toons and take down more of them or see them running from my toons, just makes my day.
Other side of the coin, many people give them easy prey, too easy, i had team mates with item level 823 (!), full green, zero enchants and missing items. These people give a real head ache for others on the team too.
So this brings me again, again and again to say, we need those <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> BRACKETS!
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
There are some people who will always complain about things in life... and in play. Nothing is every good enough for them because they do not feel good about themselves. Those people... should be ignored and told to STFU.
Yes, people like you, all days with new complains.
STFU!!!
PS: ugly dog.
PS2: ignored.
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited July 2015
I love you to, crimpatul.
It sucks when the expectations that YOU have, influence the things you do for people. I could flag this but I have a feeling that this will disappear soon.
It does not bother me that you chose to ignore me 'in game' due to your expectations. Your ignoring me does nothing to make my game or life better or worse. as I have said before... nothing that anyone in game can do to me will ever effect my enjoyment of life and the game
Instead of hijacking the topic to grind your axe, maybe you could offer something constructive.
So... I have this suggestion before, we could use something similar to what kweasa suggested. It would be based on the completion % of the PvP Campaign as a focus for the brackets. It is used as a gateway to each and every other campaign... why not use the same premise for PvP matches?
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
It sucks when the expectations that YOU have, influence the things you do for people. I could flag this but I have a feeling that this will disappear soon.
It does not bother me that you chose to ignore me 'in game' due to your expectations. Your ignoring me does nothing to make my game or life better or worse. as I have said before... nothing that anyone in game can do to me will ever effect my enjoyment of life and the game
Instead of hijacking the topic to grind your axe, maybe you could offer something constructive.
So... I have this suggestion before, we could use something similar to what kweasa suggested. It would be based on the completion % of the PvP Campaign as a focus for the brackets. It is used as a gateway to each and every other campaign... why not use the same premise for PvP matches?
"Nothing that anyone in game can do to me will ever effect my enjoyment"
Stop Blamming and Shamming Midnight Express in all the post are you making in this thread. Maybe my guild mates does not care for you (they dont), but I do because you are telling lies (like our members run in 1vsmore), that is just not the truth.
If no one can affect your enjoyment stop QQ about our guild. You are blamming our guild in more than one thread with more than one post. Lier.
You premaded in GG with your guild some time ago. You cant premade now because it does not reach 5 members in peak hours. Even with that I remember to fight more than 3 members of your guild at the same time and I didnt run.
Do whatever you want, say anything, but stop blamming MEA.
You dont know my axe but you will. Keep making friends while your guild is near empty.
Firstly the doggy is nice and sweet, btw animals can't be wrong!
Secondly i just can hope, that Mods are smart enough and see through the cheap trick, that the member of this above mentioned guild wants to get this thread closed with personally attacking you. I hope they won't shut the otherwise useful thread down.
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Firstly the doggy is nice and sweet, btw animals can't be wrong!
Secondly i just can hope, that Mods are smart enough and see through the cheap trick, that the member of this above mentioned guild wants to get this thread closed with personally attacking you. I hope they won't shut the otherwise useful thread down.
1.- Some people think that rules are only for another people, not for themselves.
2.- Blamming and shamming is not allowed. If the dog is doing it and the thread is not moderated I will not stay quiet watching it.
3.- It is not just one thread or just one post. He is throwing <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> wherever he goes in each post he does.
4.- If this is happening, and also, there are lies, I have the right to defend myself, because I am in that guild.
PS:
I dont feel like I god in 5vs1, or killing players with low gear. There is 0 adrenaline in that, no fun, no risk. Even in IWD I dont attack players in the open pvp zone (only if they attack me) and we gather ice togheter lol. And I dont like when I see 2vs1 3vs1 4vs1 in that zone. Most of the times Its low geared people killing one alone player.
Oh, I forget, I kill players in IWD only if open dom is going on, just for the ice.
You dont know it, but you can check how many people there is at domination. Sometimes there are less than 5 level 70 matches running, and I cant enter in that matches because of my elo, so I have to wait 30-60 min to get into a match just to do a daily pvp quest that we will need in the next mod (seals of tryumph).
I didnt get into GG while the NCL was running. And I handled "the heat" (as you say) of dom matches the best I could. And BTW the NCL its for me one of the best improvements the Devs made into the game, and Im waiting for the next one.
Most of the time I get bored in GG and I just play 1 match for the quest.
So stop making false ideas about my behavior, yes my behavior, because you are talking about a lot of people (entire guilds) and you dont know them 1 by 1.
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited July 2015
The truth hurts.
I have not blamed or shamed anyone. Not that I need to defend my actions because I do not resort to under-handed and abusive acts on people that I see as less important to me... for what ever reason. I point out the reality of the situation at hand. I am relaying the feelings of the "average Joe" who enters a PvP match.
People whined and complained when the mobs that we were supposed to fight, when M6 came out were too hard. They were impossible to beat. So what did they do? They made one of these choices:
1. Quit the game.
2. Do something else in the game.
3. Adapt to the changes.
4. Find an easier way to make this happen.
This is the same thing regarding the current situation in all PvP... since the adaptation will take a lot longer. Quite frankly, people are not that patient. There are people who exploit the bugs in the game to increase their success. Some have quit the game over this. Lastly, it seems most people are staying away from ALL PvP now-a-days.
Instead of passing judgement on me based on your expectations... maybe you should find out who I am first. Matthias and I have talked at length in game. As I have done with many of the people on my friends list. There is a reason for that. I have a concept in my life that is called "personal responsibility". I am responsible for everything that I do... so I reap what I sow... and I have no problems with that. So, I also hold everyone responsible for their actions. Just like the 'Golden Rule'... which is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
The only people who seek to harm others without a care for their feelings... Sociopaths. Right now... the people who make the choice to enter GG as a 5 or 10 man premade for the sole purpose of winning at all costs... seem to fit the definition of sociopath. For if they cared about others... would they enter as they do?
You all have Dom to abuse each other and get the competition that you so desire. GG is supposed to be for the masses... as is ALL PvP. But we have already given up on Dom.
So...
... take it or leave it... I have not broken any rules. Nor do I care if anyone puts a target on my back because of the words I use and the truths I expose.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
You are a sociopath because you premaded with civil anarchy in GG. And also hypocrit.
My expectations on you are 0.
If you think that you can throw <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to another people and then say "I did nothing" you are very wrong and you have not enough courage to confront the situation. Hide your head into the floor.
And you talk about "personal responsibility". Just lol. Golden rule. More lol.
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at the end of first quarter of the match
LOL!
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
Behold, the gear/stats gap will further widen in MOD 7 as they gate BIS PVP gears/PVP Boons behind Guild vs Guild PVP (e.g. making 'Fallen Banner' a requirement).
Those who PVP but are in PVE guilds and smaller guilds will have difficulty acquiring them, extending the divide further.
good game? we have zero chance from the beginning. you have strong and weak players. we have weak players and me )) i was the only one with more kills than death in my team.
p.s. i know that GG isnt about kills but when you cant win you at least try kill someone
I stood at ur spawn cus thats one of the most effective way of tunnel visioning ur team and givng them a false illusion that our team had a lot of strong players, its a mind game to intimidate them to give up from leaving the spawn point, and when one of ur teamates starts doing that and more follows then its GG. The score only start to fall apart after a few of ur teammates gave up leaving the spawn area but really if they spread out to cap and leave only a OP or DC to stick to me, I then cant kill much and ur team woukd destoy ours. Its all about mind game
team
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
I have seen things like this backfire and my team climb back from an initial onslaught. Namely against a 5 man Express premade.
Yes, you premades are sure doing an effective job of killing the PvP in this game.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
i dont think we talk about the same match, dont think it was so close. i write it yesterday european time about yesterday european match
but anyway, maybe that team have numbers but if noobs chasing TR on one node they are not strong. you cant write about strong team
I thought he mains a GWF not a TR?
camping at the node in case of a close match? who even cares about one camper at the spot?
Spot on mate!
Small or medium sized guilds will have to choose between either going the PVE or the PVP route. Ok, correction, small guilds will have zero chance. Simply put a bad design.
Mod 7 will get guildies even more divided, not unified, cause for example half of my current toons are PVP and half of them are PVE. Now what should i do, which arm to brake?! Should i go to another guild, if the decision in my guild doesn't favor all my toons? (No option for me, cause i like my guild.)
The very short life cycle of gear will make the power gap even bigger and the fact, that BiS gear will be only available through a strong and wealthy guild will broaden this gap even further.
Devs should really come up with a better approach!
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
I would love to see just 1 Dev see and acknowledge the fact, that with this tendency GG PVP will be empty in near future, we PUGs will leave it or we will just hop in get ourselves humiliated for that 4k and ciao.
They really should think about it..., with no PVE content, no real Foundry, nearly all Dungeons gone PVP would be the last spot for end game players, emphasis is on "would be".
Every losing premade PVP guild, who can't stand a foot in DOM or is on easy hunt comes to GG PVP. Such a low style.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
The truth hurts... and I do not care if you hate me for saying it. I am writing a book about life... it will be called Brutal Honesty. F'ing life is brutal enough... don't pee on someone's fun time.
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
*Hangs up my PVP gloves*
Ah, if only more people would see the woods from a tree, game would be more fun to play in.
Nonetheless it wouldn't be a big thing for the Devs to divide PVP between a premade onslaught and PUG players, this way everybody would be satisfied and we wouldn't have to cry here on Forums either.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Every game is inherently "lopsided" since skill level is different among all players. However, if you think about it, would you prefer it to be lopsided in the way that ALL the high-skill, BiS-through-the-wazoo players are gathered up on one side? Or would you like it better when some of them are distributed and mixed up evenly between teams?
If we rate a player from 0 - 100, just for the heck of it, I'd rather have a game that is:
TEAM A: 10, 20, 20, 30, 30, 30, 50, 80, 90, 100
TEAM B: 10, 30, 30, 35, 35, 40, 40, 90, 90, 100
...rather than...
TEAM A: 10, 10, 20, 20, 35, 35, 30, 30, 30, 80
TEAM B: 10, 30, 40, 40, 50, 90, 90, 90, 100, 100
Essentially, what the trollmades are doing, is what you see right above, in the latter example. They break the randomness of lopsidedness and ensure that their side is ALWAYS superior. Logically speaking this is frankly nothing different from rigging matches in an illegal gambling scam.
In the end, if they can't do about who has better gear, then the least they could do is ensure where they land up is decided by the hands of fate.
"The only morality in a cruel world is chance" - H. Dent, "The Dark Knight"
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
When there is a legitimate reason to have something, which this is a perfect case, things need to change for the continuing validity of PvP in NWO. Without this change... NO ONE WILL PvP... except for all of the BiS abusers who created this mess in the first place.
Do any of you know what Symbiosis is? It is when something lives in perfect harmony within it's environment. Unless an organism desires the environment to fall apart, they will live in harmony with all of the other organisms.
Again... this is a 'Reap what you Sow' situation.
Last night, I spent 40 minutes queued for GG... that was for 2 matches. Before all of this abuse started happening, the queues would pop within a few minutes, if not seconds.
Funny thing was... it was the first time since the end of the NCL where I did not see one Expresso bean in the match. In fact there wasn't even a premade. Although it seems that there may have been a serious gear or class imbalance... since my side walked away fast.
The second match was an Expresso bean reunion tour. We had some AFKers after a while... that was until I told them to screw with their match. So we would run in random directions... and cap 2 nodes then run to another 2 nodes... and so on. We actually got within 500 pts... that beats the 1000 to 200 that it was.
I also uncovered a reason behind the actions of the Expresso beans... many of them can't PvP without the help of teammates. 1v1 or 2v1 situations... they run or they die fast. Put the shoe on the other foot... and they will act like gods when they kill you 3v1, 4v1 or 5v1.
In GG PVP we got new "B categrory" fighters, the Black Lotus guys, apperently they can't handle real premades, so they got out to PUGstomping.
In baby PVP entire night Coffee Shoppe's "2nd class" fighters, who also can't handle the real heat, so they were out on easy PUG hunt.
BUT it fills my heart with joy, when i am on my <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> geared toons and take down more of them or see them running from my toons, just makes my day.
Other side of the coin, many people give them easy prey, too easy, i had team mates with item level 823 (!), full green, zero enchants and missing items. These people give a real head ache for others on the team too.
So this brings me again, again and again to say, we need those <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> BRACKETS!
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Yes, people like you, all days with new complains.
STFU!!!
PS: ugly dog.
PS2: ignored.
It sucks when the expectations that YOU have, influence the things you do for people. I could flag this but I have a feeling that this will disappear soon.
It does not bother me that you chose to ignore me 'in game' due to your expectations. Your ignoring me does nothing to make my game or life better or worse. as I have said before... nothing that anyone in game can do to me will ever effect my enjoyment of life and the game
Instead of hijacking the topic to grind your axe, maybe you could offer something constructive.
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So... I have this suggestion before, we could use something similar to what kweasa suggested. It would be based on the completion % of the PvP Campaign as a focus for the brackets. It is used as a gateway to each and every other campaign... why not use the same premise for PvP matches?
"Nothing that anyone in game can do to me will ever effect my enjoyment"
Stop Blamming and Shamming Midnight Express in all the post are you making in this thread. Maybe my guild mates does not care for you (they dont), but I do because you are telling lies (like our members run in 1vsmore), that is just not the truth.
If no one can affect your enjoyment stop QQ about our guild. You are blamming our guild in more than one thread with more than one post. Lier.
You premaded in GG with your guild some time ago. You cant premade now because it does not reach 5 members in peak hours. Even with that I remember to fight more than 3 members of your guild at the same time and I didnt run.
Do whatever you want, say anything, but stop blamming MEA.
You dont know my axe but you will. Keep making friends while your guild is near empty.
Firstly the doggy is nice and sweet, btw animals can't be wrong!
Secondly i just can hope, that Mods are smart enough and see through the cheap trick, that the member of this above mentioned guild wants to get this thread closed with personally attacking you. I hope they won't shut the otherwise useful thread down.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
1.- Some people think that rules are only for another people, not for themselves.
2.- Blamming and shamming is not allowed. If the dog is doing it and the thread is not moderated I will not stay quiet watching it.
3.- It is not just one thread or just one post. He is throwing <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> wherever he goes in each post he does.
4.- If this is happening, and also, there are lies, I have the right to defend myself, because I am in that guild.
PS:
I dont feel like I god in 5vs1, or killing players with low gear. There is 0 adrenaline in that, no fun, no risk. Even in IWD I dont attack players in the open pvp zone (only if they attack me) and we gather ice togheter lol. And I dont like when I see 2vs1 3vs1 4vs1 in that zone. Most of the times Its low geared people killing one alone player.
Oh, I forget, I kill players in IWD only if open dom is going on, just for the ice.
You dont know it, but you can check how many people there is at domination. Sometimes there are less than 5 level 70 matches running, and I cant enter in that matches because of my elo, so I have to wait 30-60 min to get into a match just to do a daily pvp quest that we will need in the next mod (seals of tryumph).
I didnt get into GG while the NCL was running. And I handled "the heat" (as you say) of dom matches the best I could. And BTW the NCL its for me one of the best improvements the Devs made into the game, and Im waiting for the next one.
Most of the time I get bored in GG and I just play 1 match for the quest.
So stop making false ideas about my behavior, yes my behavior, because you are talking about a lot of people (entire guilds) and you dont know them 1 by 1.
I have not blamed or shamed anyone. Not that I need to defend my actions because I do not resort to under-handed and abusive acts on people that I see as less important to me... for what ever reason. I point out the reality of the situation at hand. I am relaying the feelings of the "average Joe" who enters a PvP match.
People whined and complained when the mobs that we were supposed to fight, when M6 came out were too hard. They were impossible to beat. So what did they do? They made one of these choices:
1. Quit the game.
2. Do something else in the game.
3. Adapt to the changes.
4. Find an easier way to make this happen.
This is the same thing regarding the current situation in all PvP... since the adaptation will take a lot longer. Quite frankly, people are not that patient. There are people who exploit the bugs in the game to increase their success. Some have quit the game over this. Lastly, it seems most people are staying away from ALL PvP now-a-days.
Instead of passing judgement on me based on your expectations... maybe you should find out who I am first. Matthias and I have talked at length in game. As I have done with many of the people on my friends list. There is a reason for that. I have a concept in my life that is called "personal responsibility". I am responsible for everything that I do... so I reap what I sow... and I have no problems with that. So, I also hold everyone responsible for their actions. Just like the 'Golden Rule'... which is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
The only people who seek to harm others without a care for their feelings... Sociopaths. Right now... the people who make the choice to enter GG as a 5 or 10 man premade for the sole purpose of winning at all costs... seem to fit the definition of sociopath. For if they cared about others... would they enter as they do?
You all have Dom to abuse each other and get the competition that you so desire. GG is supposed to be for the masses... as is ALL PvP. But we have already given up on Dom.
So...
... take it or leave it... I have not broken any rules. Nor do I care if anyone puts a target on my back because of the words I use and the truths I expose.
Lier
You are a sociopath because you premaded with civil anarchy in GG. And also hypocrit.
My expectations on you are 0.
If you think that you can throw <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to another people and then say "I did nothing" you are very wrong and you have not enough courage to confront the situation. Hide your head into the floor.
And you talk about "personal responsibility". Just lol. Golden rule. More lol.