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trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
edited September 2014 in Super News Network
We're going to be having a maintenance later this afternoon, in order to fix the issue with the giveaway.

The bug that we need to fix (and for which we disabled the event) is that the shuttle is bound, but the MOD in it wasn't. You could claim the shuttle, un-slot the MOD for 1G, sell the MOD for 9G, delete the character, create another one, get the shuttle...

This will be fixed in the new patch that we're making right now, so we'll be able to re-activate the giveaway this afternoon. I'll update with the actual start time when we have a timeline.


Quick notes:
-You are meant to be able to get one of these per character. I was incorrect when I wrote that it was a once-per-account thing.
-These are bound per character, as they were designed.
>>So yes, you can and will get one shuttle for each character you have. :biggrin:
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  • notyuunotyuu Posts: 1,121 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Are you also going to fix the issue with AotM where the proc method and total % boost from it renders it near useless?
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    Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Good show. alway be players to take advantage of a freebie to it's utmost.


    Glad to see quick resolution and good outcome - vehicles for all characters. yay.

    Btw is there a plan to extend the ability to pick up npc at other end? due to down time now. players may miss out due to real life commitments conflicting with this unexpected change.
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
    edited September 2014
    We've got the build, and it's good to go. We'll have maintenance soon.
  • tfavsb10tfavsb10 Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    As for the premature destroid event?
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    tfavsb10 wrote: »
    As for the premature destroid event?

    It's not the one in the link below due for today?

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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's not premature - it's today. And technically, you don't need vehicles to fight the randomly-spawned Destroids - although they'll come in handy against the Mega-Destroids later this month, for some of the - ah - less-capable builds (like many of mine, he said sheepishly...).
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  • genericfacegenericface Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Just wondering what the estimated down time for this will be? Seems it shouldn't be long, but you never know. :cool:

    Edit: Nevermind it's on the patcher.
  • sekhmet46sekhmet46 Posts: 175 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Okay so... I'll be off the computer in a minute, won't be back until late Sunday. Can you push back the giveaway end to maybe Monday, in order to compensate for people like me? I don't see any downsides to this proposition, but if it's somehow an issue, let me know. Thanks!
  • mrinfinitummrinfinitum Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Giveaway is SUPPOSED to run until 11 a.m. server time Monday anyways ;)
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
    edited September 2014
    Maintenance is about to end, get back in game, folks!
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  • aurasonic12aurasonic12 Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The untill shuttle is still bound to a single character...
    plus you can claim it on multiple characters still
    i see what you did you sneaky devs
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
    edited September 2014
    The untill shuttle is still bound to a single character...
    plus you can claim it on multiple characters still
    i see what you did you sneaky devs

    Yeah, that's working as designed. The bug was related to the MOD being unbound. :)
  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    TT, we don't have the daily missions to go along with Dr. D's invasion. Any chance that can get activated?
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    meanwhile in zone chat,
    we have someone complaining about the free items costing 55L.

    IT's not free, they were meant to be free.

    major facepalm.
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  • riveroceanriverocean Posts: 1,690 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    chaelk wrote: »
    meanwhile in zone chat,
    we have someone complaining about the free items costing 55L.

    IT's not free, they were meant to be free.

    major facepalm.

    Like my dear old grandma used to say, "There's always that ONE person."

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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    now we have someone complaining they can't stick it in their hideout bank for when they go gold again.

    sometimes I really wonder about people.
    I've claimed the shuttle on the one character whose background would have one.
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  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    chaelk wrote: »
    meanwhile in zone chat,
    we have someone complaining about the free items costing 55L.

    IT's not free, they were meant to be free.

    major facepalm.

    All I did was ask why isn't it free when they are advertising that it is free, but if you think that asking a question is complaining then you have never asked a question in your entire life or have never had anyone ask you a question. Also I don't care if it cost 5L they are advertising that it's free therefore it should be free it shouldn't cost me even 1L, saying it's free and then making you pay even a small amount is not the same thing.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    All I did was ask why isn't it free when they are advertising that it is free, but if you think that asking a question is complaining then you have never asked a question in your entire life or have never had anyone ask you a question. Also I don't care if it cost 5L they are advertising that it's free therefore it should be free it shouldn't cost me even 1L, saying it's free and then making you pay even a small amount is not the same thing.
    You may have only been asking, but I saw a number of folks who actually were complaining. When you create a new toon, it comes pre-equipped with more Resources than that, but folks were carrying on as if it cost Zen or something!

    55 Locals is nothing. If you've somehow reduced yourself to a greater level of poverty than that, go whack a couple of Purple Gangsters, and you'll have it again. It ain't no thing, ya know?
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  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    You may have only been asking, but I saw a number of folks who actually were complaining. When you create a new toon, it comes pre-equipped with more Resources than that, but folks were carrying on as if it cost Zen or something!

    55 Locals is nothing. If you've somehow reduced yourself to a greater level of poverty than that, go whack a couple of Purple Gangsters, and you'll have it again. It ain't no thing, ya know?

    Honestly that is not even the point, great 55L is nothing but again that is not the point, the point is CO is advertising that it is free as in not cost anything F-R-E-E get it, it should not cost anything.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hey Trailturtle, can you get them to amend ARC to show the correct price for the impoverished and self entitled.
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  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    chaelk wrote: »
    Hey Trailturtle, can you get them to amend ARC to show the correct price for the impoverished and self entitled.

    I am not impoverished nor am I self entitled, I just don't like false advertising. I wonder how you all would act if this was something in real life and not in a game, would you act the same or would you be a little bit miffed about false advertising. If someone offered you for example a t-shirt in real life saying it's free but when you go to get it they say you have to give me a dollar for it what would you do then? I wonder if you would actually just say, meh it's just a dollar even though you said free but here you go. CO either needs to give it away for free as the advertising states or change the advertising with the correct price no matter how small and easy it is to obtain. False advertising is false advertising no matter what, and it doesn't make anyone self entitled for pointing it out.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    in real life I check the small print on all "free"or extremely cheap offers, since they will invariably state limitations or charges attached.
    next I would ask why they have them advertised as free, when you are charging.
    Some it is a delivery fee, commission or other charges on FREE items.

    If they have not stated in their advertising that there will be a charge, I would point out to them that they are required by law, to say so.
    It is then up to me to decide if I wish to pay for the free item.
    also, what money have you paid for this free item?
    None, you used in-game currency, which you acquired for free.

    also you are not the only person complaining.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,916 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    I am not impoverished nor am I self entitled, I just don't like false advertising. I wonder how you all would act if this was something in real life and not in a game, would you act the same or would you be a little bit miffed about false advertising. If someone offered you for example a t-shirt in real life saying it's free but when you go to get it they say you have to give me a dollar for it what would you do then? I wonder if you would actually just say, meh it's just a dollar even though you said free but here you go. CO either needs to give it away for free as the advertising states or change the advertising with the correct price no matter how small and easy it is to obtain. False advertising is false advertising no matter what, and it doesn't make anyone self entitled for pointing it out.
    It's the equivalent of "selling" a car for 5$. It might as well be free, calling it a sale is simply mincing words.

    It costs so few resources that a level 1 character can easily collect them by killing henchman mobs.
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  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Some people will find something to complain about no mater what.
  • starbucks2013starbucks2013 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Can anyone tell me where is the quest for Dr Destroyer and the destroids? I see the destroids every little while, and dr destroyer on the signs, but no quest? Didn't defender have one last year for questionite?
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    Honestly that is not even the point, great 55L is nothing but again that is not the point, the point is CO is advertising that it is free as in not cost anything F-R-E-E get it, it should not cost anything.

    The advertisement meant real money. Not some made up Cluedo money. You can't buy any items put ingame by Cryptic, like the Ship and The Costume Pack with Ls, Ns or Gs you know, Resources.
    Someone should start to complain how Free-To-Play isn't really free....
    Can't imagine how hard the real life faceslams these people.
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    edited September 2014
    Can anyone tell me where is the quest for Dr Destroyer and the destroids? I see the destroids every little while, and dr destroyer on the signs, but no quest? Didn't defender have one last year for questionite?

    It's not yet The Invasion, they are just doing some recon, blending in with regular citizens. Real Invasion hits when the Big Guys come out to play.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    they could always report them to the Better business bureau.
    you know the non-government, no legal right to hand out ratings, privately run , pay to win group.
    which has been taken to court several times because you can only get good ratings, if you pay to become a member.Including peoples ratings miraculously going from F to A on payment of membership.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited September 2014
    To the people who can't afford this prohibitely expensive vehicle and costume pack:

    1 - Go to recognition vendors.

    2 - Use your otherwise borderline useless recognition to buy some healing devices.

    3 - Sell healing devices to Karneki for resources.

    4 - Buy your insanely expensive costume and vehicle. Whoa! Look how RICH you are, you can afford the freakin one national price tag!

    5 - Stop crying.

    Optionally, if you somehow managed to have no vendor trash to sell or not a single recog of ANY kind...

    Then probably the vehicle isn't for you anyway because you are very unlikely to find how to use it.

    On the same record, probably you also have difficulties using the tailor so you are better without the costume.




    And yes, it costs no real life money and no serious time investment, so it is entirely free giveaway.


    chaelk wrote: »
    I've claimed the shuttle on the one character whose background would have one.
    Claimed the shuttle only on character with UN background and few others with no flight TPs.

    I only wonder if it will be possible to tune-up the shuttle to the MK II version.
  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014

    I only wonder if it will be possible to tune-up the shuttle to the MK II version.

    Indeed it is. if you check the vehicle upgrade npc you will see the until shuttle is in there. (well i haven't checked live tbh, but it was on pts)
  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    None of you are getting the point. I don't care if it is in game money, I don't care if it is such a small amount that you can get it just by looking at a bad guy. The advertisement said FREE therefore it should be FREE, it should not cost anything, not even in game money or resources no matter how small it is. The advertisement says FREE and it isn't so CO needs to change the advertisement. There is no small print stating otherwise it actually says FREE. False Advertising is False Advertising. Doesn't make me a whiner or a crybaby for pointing it out, calling people names isn't the solution either.
  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    None of you are getting the point. I don't care if it is in game money, I don't care if it is such a small amount that you can get it just by looking at a bad guy. The advertisement said FREE therefore it should be FREE, it should not cost anything, not even in game money or resources no matter how small it is. The advertisement says FREE and it isn't so CO needs to change the advertisement. There is no small print stating otherwise it actually says FREE. False Advertising is False Advertising. Doesn't make me a whiner or a crybaby for pointing it out, calling people names isn't the solution either.

    If the deal isn't to your satisfaction you can just walk away and not take them up on it. *shrugs*
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    None of you are getting the point. I don't care if it is in game money, I don't care if it is such a small amount that you can get it just by looking at a bad guy. The advertisement said FREE therefore it should be FREE, it should not cost anything, not even in game money or resources no matter how small it is. The advertisement says FREE and it isn't so CO needs to change the advertisement. There is no small print stating otherwise it actually says FREE. False Advertising is False Advertising. Doesn't make me a whiner or a crybaby for pointing it out, calling people names isn't the solution either.

    Yea, it doesn't make you whiner or a crybay. You're just making yourself sound like a real dingdong.
    Please stop.
    Don't take the freebies. Walk away. Leave game. Be angry to them.
    Just. Stop.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    None of you are getting the point. I don't care if it is in game money, I don't care if it is such a small amount that you can get it just by looking at a bad guy. The advertisement said FREE therefore it should be FREE, it should not cost anything, not even in game money or resources no matter how small it is. The advertisement says FREE and it isn't so CO needs to change the advertisement. There is no small print stating otherwise it actually says FREE. False Advertising is False Advertising. Doesn't make me a whiner or a crybaby for pointing it out, calling people names isn't the solution either.


    The advertisement was entirely true.

    The shuttle and the costume does not cost you a single $.

    Therefore it is free. Real cash free.

    Just like the game is free to play, but you still have to farm some resources for things.
  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    Yea, it doesn't make you whiner or a crybay. You're just making yourself sound like a real dingdong.
    Please stop.
    Don't take the freebies. Walk away. Leave game. Be angry to them.
    Just. Stop.

    CO has false advertising on their page me pointing it out doesn't make me a dingdong. Calling me names just makes you seem like when someone points out the truth to you that you can't handle it so you resort to name calling. And for "Don't take the freebies." Well they aren't really free now are they.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    CO has false advertising on their page me pointing it out doesn't make me a dingdong.
    Actually, the advertisement is not false as it was pointed few times. No $ spent = free.

    The fact you are not accepting what was explained to you does not makes it any less true.
  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Actually, the advertisement is not false as it was pointed few times. No $ spent = free.

    The fact you are not accepting what was explained to you does not makes it any less true.

    You have to spend 55L on it so it is not free. Free means you get it for nothing. The fact that you have to spend even a little bit of resources on it doesn't make it free. Why can't you all accept that free means it costs nothing even in game resources. So yes it is False Advertising. CO needs to change it, FREE means it costs nothing, not real money, not in game resources, not anything. You all seem to not get it or accept it and that is the truth.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    You have to spend 55L on it so it is not free. Free means you get it for nothing. The fact that you have to spend even a little bit of resources on it doesn't make it free. Why can't you all accept that free means it costs nothing even in game resources. So yes it is False Advertising. CO needs to change it, FREE means it costs nothing, not real money, not in game resources, not anything. You all seem to not get it or accept it and that is the truth.

    Ok.Now you are really hilarious.

    Tell me, how many $ is 55 L?

    No, really.

    :biggrin:

    Ahahahahahahaha... Ha...

    Vehicles are paid in this game with real $. So are costume sets. You can't earn them otherwise.

    Even buying Zen with Questionite means that someone else paid the price.

    You are given a vehicle and a costume for nothing of RL value (not even a time investment), no $, no Q needed and it's not free for you?

    Evil CO, cheated you so badly...

    Ok. You are crybaby.

    That's not even calling you names, tha's just stating who you are. I'm sorry.
  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Tell me, how many $ is 55 L?

    $0.05

    Or something. I forget which ones are locals. In game currency has a real money equivalent. $1 = 100 zen = 100g-125g ish. Q also has a real dollar value since you can trade it for zen, which has a real dollar value.

    Can people stop being douchebags to each other, now? That'd be super.
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  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    $1 = 100z
    1 Key = 100z
    1 Key = 100g(ish)

    1G = $0.01 (one one hundreth of a dollar = 1/100)

    1G = 100N
    1N = $0.0001 (one ten thousandth of a dollar = 1/1000)

    1N = 100L
    1L = $0.000001 (one one hundred thousandth of a dollar = 1/100,000)

    Vehicle = 55L = $0.000055
    Costume = 55L = $0.000055

    Total cost, $0.000110 = approximately one ten thousandth of a dollar.


    Now to me this is essentially free.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    So one Zen is a penny U.S.?

    Why do I find that so neat? :smile:
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  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    So one Zen is a penny U.S.

    Why do I find that so neat? :smile:

    one of the more logical changes that occured as part of the PWE purchase of cryptic. formerly $1 = 80c-points. Calculating things got messy ;D
  • sucrafma1sucrafma1 Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sterga wrote: »
    $0.05

    Or something. I forget which ones are locals. In game currency has a real money equivalent. $1 = 100 zen = 100g-125g ish. Q also has a real dollar value since you can trade it for zen, which has a real dollar value.

    Can people stop being douchebags to each other, now? That'd be super.

    If you notice in all my posts I have been civil and have not resorted to calling names or stating that someone is a crybaby. I have been simply pointing out a simple truth and some people cannot handle it, so they resort to name calling and putting me down. If this is how they act in a forum about a game, I would hate to see how they act in real life. I never said CO was evil, all I said was that yes there is false advertising on their page and that they need to change it.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The "1 Key = 100 Globals" is an in-game player decision, nothing more. Last I checked the AH, Keys were going for 149 Globals and up.

    That's where the whole thing falls apart, you see - the effort to swap real-world money for in-game Resources hits a variable that depends on how badly folks want to open the latest Lockbox. With the Steel Samurai Lockbox, I recall seeing AH prices actually fall below 100 G.

    So no, there is no direct correlation between real money and Resources, and only the most obscure linkage that depends on player whim if you're really reaching.

    And as I have (repeatedly) pointed out, your character comes into existence in possession of, IIRC, 1N 55L, or more than enough to buy the Costume Pack and the Shuttle without needing to do one single thing in between. Just walk out of the PH, make a sharp left, talk to the man(? hard to tell under that armor), equip your shuttle, and proceed to blow the frak out of everybody in Westside.
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  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I didn't pay money for it. Therefore, it's free.
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  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    The "1 Key = 100 Globals" is an in-game player decision, nothing more. Last I checked the AH, Keys were going for 149 Globals and up.

    That's where the whole thing falls apart, you see - the effort to swap real-world money for in-game Resources hits a variable that depends on how badly folks want to open the latest Lockbox. With the Steel Samurai Lockbox, I recall seeing AH prices actually fall below 100 G.

    So no, there is no direct correlation between real money and Resources, and only the most obscure linkage that depends on player whim if you're really reaching.

    And as I have (repeatedly) pointed out, your character comes into existence in possession of, IIRC, 1N 55L, or more than enough to buy the Costume Pack and the Shuttle without needing to do one single thing in between. Just walk out of the PH, make a sharp left, talk to the man(? hard to tell under that armor), equip your shuttle, and proceed to blow the frak out of everybody in Westside.

    im just pointing out in general.. whichever arbitrary price for keys you use in globals the price of the items is still several factors of size smaller than a us 1 cent. let alone a dollar. so not worth creating such a fuss over.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,916 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    If you notice in all my posts I have been civil and have not resorted to calling names or stating that someone is a crybaby. I have been simply pointing out a simple truth and some people cannot handle it, so they resort to name calling and putting me down. If this is how they act in a forum about a game, I would hate to see how they act in real life. I never said CO was evil, all I said was that yes there is false advertising on their page and that they need to change it.
    And yet you're complaining about something so trivial that no one can take your complaint seriously. I paid for it using resources I got from killing a destroid. ONE destroid, out of several hundred enemies I massacred that day. As myself and multiple others have pointed out, the "cost" is so insignificant even brand new players can easily pay.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited September 2014
    sucrafma1 wrote: »
    If you notice in all my posts I have been civil and have not resorted to calling names or stating that someone is a crybaby. I have been simply pointing out a simple truth and some people cannot handle it, so they resort to name calling and putting me down. If this is how they act in a forum about a game, I would hate to see how they act in real life. I never said CO was evil, all I said was that yes there is false advertising on their page and that they need to change it.


    If you are that stalwart to see only your version of "truth" and hysterically fight over a trivial, nonexistant issue... In a game. Then I would hate to see how you act in real life...

    You were pointed few times by more than one poster where and why you are wrong. You disregarded everything but your narrow opinion.

    Trying to be civil is unlikely to change anything if you are wrong. Stating that Earth is flat in a cultural way (albeit I question if entitlement is a sign of being civil) does not make it flat, you know?

    Even if there was any issue (albeit there is none), it would be hardly worth of fixing since the entire Arc message will be irrelevant in Monday.
  • jonesing4jonesing4 Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I got a coupon for a free hamburger the other day.

    The restaurant sent a towncar to my house to pick me up, knowing that it would cease to be a free hamburger if I had to pay for costly gasoline and have my car suffer depreciation expenses by traveling. Since you have to wear clothes at their establishment, and since it isn't a free hamburger if you have to pay for your own damn clothes to get it, they bathed and clothed me before taking me to the restaurant. After carrying me to the table via stretcher, they pried my jaws open, chewed my free hamburger for me, and regurgitated it into my mouth. Considerate, since making me do any of these things for my 'free' burger would be akin to manual labor. They then wrapped me up in a diaper, and sent me home with a nurse, in order to make sure that the final passage of their free burger would not be something I'd have to bother with myself--otherwise what's the point of free things? I was pleased that they also left $50 cash on my dining room table, realizing that the opportunity cost of spending time enjoying my burger would've disqualified it from being 'free'.

    PWE has a lot of nerve trying to pass this off as free. They will be hearing from my attorney.
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