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  • gillfignofignogillfignofigno Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The devs heard us extolling the virtues of the darkest black plus a single other color with maxed glow!

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    I made a hero that looks like that a while back named Digital Man, and I got a lot of positive comments about him while playing, so people do like the look.

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    Now there is going to be hundreds of Digital Man's every where, but that bike would be great for him.
  • diplomacymandiplomacyman Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Digital-Man! I rather liked him, didn't he have a cape?
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,139 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    See? All the pictured posted by players are the best example of how you combine Red-and-Black in a good way to make a good costume!
    With a good Balance and the addition of a Third or Fourth Color without being Obnoxious about it!
    Avoiding the Pitch Black and eye-burning red (◡‿◡✿)
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  • gillfignofignogillfignofigno Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Digital-Man! I rather liked him, didn't he have a cape?
    One of his alt-outfits has a cape. Check it out on Primus!
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I made a hero that looks like that a while back named Digital Man, and I got a lot of positive comments about him while playing, so people do like the look.

    GFdigitalman1OUTFIT.jpg

    Now there is going to be hundreds of Digital Man's every where, but that bike would be great for him.
    Does Digital Man have a sidekick named Analog Kid? (+2112 geek points if you get the reference...)
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited July 2013
    Also. One can never have enough blackredders on the roster!

    Deathlark:

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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited July 2013
    Aaand to keep this thread runnin, my last one:

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    Because there is nothing better than black and red. :biggrin:
  • cascadencecascadence Posts: 505 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Also. One can never have enough blackredders on the roster!

    Deathlark:

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    Hmmmm this one is terribly familiar.... I wonder why =p.
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  • akirasanbeerakirasanbeer Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Does anyone know where it stemmed from? Guessing Carnage or Darth Maul may have had an influence...
  • jaguar40jaguar40 Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Does anyone know where it stemmed from? Guessing Carnage or Darth Maul may have had an influence...

    That is a good question.

    Me personally I always liked black/red combo in RL before I even ever heard of Carnage and definately before I even seen a pic. of Darth Maul (sometime last year. Never watched much star wars. Got to the intro with the scrolling and first scene of one and next thing I remember was the credits. Dang sleep.). It's just one of those color combinations that caught my eyes given that those were my two favorite colors and then combined, loved it.
  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Does anyone know where it stemmed from? Guessing Carnage or Darth Maul may have had an influence...

    Dracula? Satan? Grandpa Munster? GameStop? SmashBurger?
  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Am I late to the black red party?

    Here are my entries:

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    Little Red Hoodlum

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    Dispensable Assassin
  • dr490nbr347hidr490nbr347hi Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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  • tigerofcachticetigerofcachtice Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Hi all, I'm a Blackredder. In fact, after the Dress a Dev contest, I've requested my custom forum title to BE "Blackredder". I think that makes me both a winner AND a loser.

    Too many to post here, but my Blackredder toons in comics at: co-comics.webs.com

    And of course, Lord Gar the Live Producer is also a Blackredder at heart. This is like when I found out Vin Diesel plays D&D, I was chanting, "One of us! One of us!" lol
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    Does anyone know where it stemmed from? Guessing Carnage or Darth Maul may have had an influence...

    I think Carnage, Darth Maul, Dracula, Satan...even M. Bison have had an influence. But even then, it was because there were already color associations with black/red.

    I remember in Art History class there's such a thing as color associations. Black is authority, mystery, etc. Red is danger, passion, etc. But that's not the start, either.

    I think it's to do when we were Cavemen. Black was the night, the darkness where BOTH predators and prey hide. Red was blood and fire, which was danger and power.

    Looking out for these colors may be a survival pro-tip. We look at Black because, in the darkness may be a tiger or dinner. And Red because maybe somebody died there, run!

    Those that didn't pay attention to these telltale signs, these "red flags", tended not to survive, so they didn't breed basically us. From them, we got this Black/Red hardwiring.

    Thus ends my thesis on The Evolution of Blackredders: Survival of the Fugliest.
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  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Oh hey its you! Good to see you in the official forums.
    Black and Red forever, like Mary Poppins.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited July 2013
    Black and red is a very powerful and very old color combination. Used frequently in art, including comic books.

    Anyone who complains that it's used in costumes was apparently living somewhere under the rock. :biggrin:

    The whole thread started as a very arbitrary complaint, but few accusations are especially hilarious. Especially considered that CO is a superhero comic book inspired game:

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    Two in one picture. The one on the right could have looked good, maybe, if he had taken the time and effort to choose better colors. But instead, he just picked black, red and white. Also, notice how he the bracers and collar have the Broken detail texture, but the shoulder pads don't. Those are signs of laziness.
    The one on the left is a truely extreme example. The character itself is all black, with no visible features, except for the eyes. The sole concept behind this costume appears to be "Look, Psi pieces!"

    Except not, because costume on the left, this one with PSI pieces, has actual classic comic book feel. Flat pitch black body with only few details in it, like eyes, was frequently used in classic comic books. Mutant Sunspot from X-Force is a good example, but the whole trick was used mostly for cosmic powered creatures.
    Nothing wrong with said costume. It could be better, however, with power flight TP and Kirby dots.

    The fact that that you see little wrong with costume on the right, but you are jumping at the costume on the left says something about this thread's legitimacy.
    Don't use only the darkest black at the very bottom of the color palette.
    That one is a negative color, so dark it actually makes certain transparent parts invisible. It is best used for shading or "void" effects. But for a black surface, the second darkest black is dark enough.
    As above, pitch black was frequently used in golden and silver age. Mostly because of limited printing technology, but it was. It's great for making this kid of "walking cosmic black hole" characters. Especially because it removes all details.
    Don't use only two colors.
    There is more than black and red, you know. Take Spawn for example. He wears black tights and a red cape, but also has white markings, silver chains and spikes, and green eyes.
    Classic comic book costumes very often had only two main colors and tertiary color, if it was there, was only on smail details like emblem or eyes. Again, people are doing costumes that way for a reason. Classic Batman - black/grey, only accents being belt and emblem. Superman as well, two main colors, only small accent being his emblem. Spiderman - black(blue)/red, only accents are eyes.
    Threre is nothing wrong with it.

    Spawn has typical nineties costume, overloaded with unnecessary details. Not everyone likes this style.

    So... In general, it's a silly topic, but at least we have it for showcasing our blackredders. :biggrin:
  • jonesing4jonesing4 Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I think the "problem" is saturation. A lot of people probably have 1 or 2 flat-black-plus-bright-highlight costumed toons, and there are certainly a few examples of characters like that from comics. When it's just one character from your roster, or a couple of characters in a comics universe, no big deal--no different from several characters following any number of other tropes.

    However, it seems like at least every other person on CO has a 'bad' blackredder of the kind described in here, and they seem to play them a lot. So something that seems cool within the scope of the characters you've created--one that stands out because of the high contrast between dead black and bright whatever--instead becomes something cliched, because there are 40 other toons running around RenCen with the exact same color scheme.

    All that being said, there are certainly right ways to do it, as plenty in here have showcased awesome costumes. There are also 'wrong' ways to do it, to my eyes, as plenty in here have posted costumes that I think look terrible. BUT, that's the greatest beauty of all about this game--my opinion means exactly nothing to those people, and it shouldn't.

    If the costume looks awesome to them, then you know what? It's an awesome costume.
  • themightyzeniththemightyzenith Posts: 4,599 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jonesing4 wrote: »
    I think the "problem" is saturation. A lot of people probably have 1 or 2 flat-black-plus-bright-highlight costumed toons, and there are certainly a few examples of characters like that from comics. When it's just one character from your roster, or a couple of characters in a comics universe, no big deal--no different from several characters following any number of other tropes.

    However, it seems like at least every other person on CO has a 'bad' blackredder of the kind described in here, and they seem to play them a lot. So something that seems cool within the scope of the characters you've created--one that stands out because of the high contrast between dead black and bright whatever--instead becomes something cliched, because there are 40 other toons running around RenCen with the exact same color scheme.

    All that being said, there are certainly right ways to do it, as plenty in here have showcased awesome costumes. There are also 'wrong' ways to do it, to my eyes, as plenty in here have posted costumes that I think look terrible. BUT, that's the greatest beauty of all about this game--my opinion means exactly nothing to those people, and it shouldn't.

    If the costume looks awesome to them, then you know what? It's an awesome costume.

    This is the most literate and well thought out answer on this subject, in this thread.
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  • akirasanbeerakirasanbeer Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yes, designs are subjective, but a little variety in color scheming can't really hurt someone. Thread is more helpful/insightful than trying to bash.
  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I may tone down the black a bit to see how I like it..I guess it doesn't have to be black as the blackest night at midnight...

    and ps, currently Scarlet Spider is the coolest Blackredder going around in comics, remember to check it out!
  • gillfignofignogillfignofigno Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jonesing4 wrote: »
    However, it seems like at least every other person on CO has a 'bad' blackredder of the kind described in here, and they seem to play them a lot.

    It could be that every other person that plays the game is 10 years old and thinks it looks cool because of Deadpool. Plus, there's only like 6 colors, Red/Black is bound to come up.
  • diplomacymandiplomacyman Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yes, plus what might look awesome in a comic doesn't necessarily translate to looking awesome in-game.
  • tigerofcachticetigerofcachtice Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    ...I've requested my custom forum title to BE "Blackredder".

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    Check 'em! I wasn't kidding. And I'm ok it's a pejorative, just makes it funnier.
    Oh hey its you! Good to see you in the official forums.

    Hey, really appreciate that, thanks man. I'm just glad to be part of the COmmunity.

    It used to be I was locked out of a lot of things simply because I couldn't post here.

    The fact that I can participate in things with all you guys now means a lot to me.

    And for now, I'm happy just to officially be a Blackredder, I think it's hilarious.

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    Here's a sample of my Blackredder costumes. Let's start with my Original Sin: Bloodbath.
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    Here's how many of you know her, her Interview with the Vampire look.
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    This was her earlier leveling up costume, what I used when I was making her comics.
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    In the world of Multifaria, as in the RESISTANCE adventure pack, she led a different life.
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  • tigerofcachticetigerofcachtice Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Now, for something completely different yet still very blackred.
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    It's my friend's Crimson Shot and my Detroit Red Devil. Don't worry...we knew how bad we were.
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    But this is a good one. Same friend's character, but my comic design, and my proudest single comic page.
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  • jonesing4jonesing4 Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This is the most literate and well thought out answer on this subject, in this thread.
    Many thanks. :) Well thought out and literate are not my usual contributions to threads, but even a blind pig is right twice a day, or something.
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    Those are two terrific clones (or one clone, one homage, whatever). Excellent lady DD.
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    I actually visited your site yesterday, and this is the one that really stood out. Good work on all the comics, but this one is just "WOW". Great costume, really great design. You should be proud.
  • monaahirumonaahiru Posts: 3,073 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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    My Dark Cherry. :3
  • doctordisarraydoctordisarray Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited July 2013

    And a green one.

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    LOL @ Epic Doctor Disarray Stinkface Photobomb

    found on page three of this thread from two months ago. it made me chuckle.
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I saw this guy a couple days ago when I took Golden Virtue to the tailor to edit a new costume slot. His name was "Alpha."

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  • dr490nbr347hidr490nbr347hi Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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  • finalslapsfinalslaps Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Deadpool *cough* clones.
  • xen0biaxen0bia Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Aaand to keep this thread runnin, my last one:

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    Because there is nothing better than black and red. :biggrin:

    Mind if I sorta use this character for inspiration for one of my character? I'm really digging the metallic look ala Colossus.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited August 2013
    xen0bia wrote: »
    Mind if I sorta use this character for inspiration for one of my character? I'm really digging the metallic look ala Colossus.
    No problem. I think that I have somewhere his costume file.
  • benevonbenevon Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Been awhile since I saw something posted here. Was screwing around from boredom and tried to make the worst example of blackredding/glow abuse. Not ten minutes after creating it, some random player happened by....(I'm on the right).

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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I found another Blackredder at the tailor.

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  • chaoswolf820chaoswolf820 Posts: 734 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I found another Blackredder at the tailor.

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    That one doesn't seem too bad, actually. No obnoxious glowing, for one.
  • benevonbenevon Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I found another Blackredder at the tailor.

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    The real issue with that one is that is just all harajuku pieces. Very uninventive.


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  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Scarab in her main costume (Flying, Ground and no helmet variants) - I like red black and i cannot lie.

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  • magusshadowmoonmagusshadowmoon Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    To be honest 90% of the toons running round in game are God Awful, and they dont have to black and red. I make my toons to be something I would like to see in comics, and are in fact strongly inspired by the comics of the 90s from Image, Top Cow, Marvel. Wish more would design that way.

    Personally I blame anime and pokemon......:rolleyes:
  • cptcooltasticcptcooltastic Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Personally I blame anime and pokemon......:rolleyes:

    TEDDY BEAR COSTUME SET FTW!!!
  • needlessreaper88needlessreaper88 Posts: 37
    edited October 2013
    Didn't realize I wasn't able to make whatever I want. Who knew! Well thanks for everything "bud."

    Sarcasm, #1 defense against unimportant threads.
  • benevonbenevon Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    gradii wrote: »
    obviously the worst offender of the blackredder fashion sin is you, sir, for you are glowing more! :biggrin:

    I had to make use of those 1000 day tights somehow!


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  • fudgemonstafudgemonsta Posts: 1,591 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    benevon wrote: »
    I had to make use of those 1000 day tights somehow!

    Oh god bright red millenium flight.

    I think my eyes just ruptured.
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  • epeleskerepelesker Posts: 307 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Aaand to keep this thread runnin, my last one:

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    Because there is nothing better than black and red. :biggrin:

    Damn, I sort of want to poach this design, too. Play around with the colors.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited October 2013
  • epeleskerepelesker Posts: 307 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You didn't actually need to post the costume file screen for it: I would have just tried to figure out the pieces on my own and make adjustments to them. The thought's appreciated though, Mee.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,139 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Everytime I read the title of this Thread, Sins of a Solar Empire comes into my mind

    What's so great about Black and Red anyway?
    I never got to like this Combination! (Edgy Bull****)
    and why so many people use the BRIGHTEST and SHARPEST Red tone which Pierce your eyes and makes you want to remove your eyeballs from your Skull!? :confused:
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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    ...

    This costume is awesome. It's black and red...buts it's not a black redder. Does make me want to make a metal look as well.
  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited October 2013
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    This looks familiar...

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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I found one!!! (like it was that hard) Saw this today....it made me feel bad for the Native Americans
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited October 2013
    I found one!!! (like it was that hard) Saw this today....it made me feel bad for the Native Americans
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    Well, that's actually not a bad costume.
    Similarities to totems are quite obvious. Especially with this chest layer and back piece.
    Skin tone is right.
    Leather belt, gloves and boots are working well at breaking this color scheme.
    Jet black looks like used with leather texture, so it's not a featureless back mass.
    Red parts could use color toned down a bit, but even without it they aren't totally costume breaking.
    Good enough as a kind of native-inspired Batmanesque costume.

    Some thought was actually put into this costume. It's not a random sum of parts.

    This topic already started badly, but now it quickly goes downhill.
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