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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    scorpagor wrote: »
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    Hope you will enjoy her date :3
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    You know thats just some dude with a insect mask on....
    Since there are no qulaar females....



    *Aims Qularr rifle at you with his qularr babes near him* Do you really want to take that chance boy?....well do you....PUNK!?....I can easily..set of another qularr attack in MC! I rule the qularr! MAHAHHAHAHAH-...sorry back to topic...*puts weapon away and sits quietly back in his seat*
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    eiledon wrote: »
    if you want to opt out of the auto redirect on the main co.perfectworld.com / sto.perfectworld.com / pwi.perfectworld.com etc so that you can access older information and links please do the following (found on multiple threads on PWI forum - they need this fix to access their DQ rewards and blessing giveaways etc)


    1. Install an adblocker for your browser
    2. block this code file: global_redirect.js

    This allows you to visit the old game pages directly without being forcibly booted to arc. you can still access the arc website by clicking on the link at the top of the forum page



    Thank you so much!!!!!. *sigh* looks like you will want a date now too with my qularr babe?. Let me just call her she was already on one date with someone.
    Psi.
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Thanks for this. Worked like a charm. Normally I wouldn't want to go behind their backs, but when they take away a part of the product I'm paying for I feel a bit more justified in using this work around.



    Pfft..behind there backs?....they turned their backs behind us..and stabbed a knife in it.but I'll be more then happy to use the old site. Also once more big thanks for the guy who found this.

    No one but pricks do this to their players. forcing us to do their ways. It was too good to be true I guess with my feelings for CO
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  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,552 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Looked all around My Account-> Games and can't find anything other than ways to buy Zen. If you have a link to the page where subscriptions can be managed it would be great. Can you also post the link to the page on Arc where it's possible to copy characters to PTS?
    My Account-> Games(who would have guessed??:eek::rolleyes:)-> if you can't figure it out from there then I really don't understand how you figured out how to use the internet in the first place.

    Like I said people, pretty much all of the complaints can be solved by simply taking 5 minutes and checking what stuff does.
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  • beleaua78beleaua78 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Arc shall never infest my laptop for I have the mighty original CO game DVD *malevolent laugh*
  • monaahirumonaahiru Posts: 3,073 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Arks seems well with less Lag/DC then steam.
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Good thing the ARC Man was in MC to share some codes and spread the ARC knowledge among people.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    All this ARC nonsense was actually putting me offa any PWE game played CO for a little bit today then just got depressed by zone went outside didnt like went back in fired up Realm Reborn got called a nobface by a moogle ( a midget with a moogle hat to be exact ) and everyone had Lightning's hair I threw up then died a little inside fired up WoW got called moron by a giant cow lady fired up Second Life seen things that cant be unseen fired up ********* noticed how our Chinese overlords like to censor ********* but not WoW ( sorta ) even though ********* looks like Play Mobile played some Minecraft hated its face went into my brothers room punched him in the butt tried to play Lego Batman 2 it crashed again my rabbit did stuff to my pug the pug didnt like it much at this point I gave up on life and got out my Ren and Stimpy boxset U__U"


    All the above is somehows ARC's fault its worse than Saddam Hussein.

    *EDIT: I dont care for Resident Evil 2 and I hate Leon and I want him to die...twice with accidents involving guns that launch flame throwers and magnetic honey badgers. ARC is to blame .
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nepht wrote: »
    All this ARC nonsense was actually putting me offa any PWE game played CO for a little bit today then just got depressed by zone went outside didnt like went back in fired up Realm Reborn got called a nobface by a moogle ( a midget with a moogle hat to be exact ) and everyone had Lightning's hair I threw up then died a little inside fired up WoW got called moron by a giant cow lady fired up Second Life seen things that cant be unseen fired up ********* noticed how our Chinese overlords like to censor ********* but not WoW ( sorta ) even though ********* looks like Play Mobile played some Minecraft hated its face went into my brothers room punched him in the butt tried to play Lego Batman 2 it crashed again my rabbit did stuff to my pug the pug didnt like it much at this point I gave up on life and got out my Ren and Stimpy boxset U__U"


    All the above is somehows ARC's fault its worse than Saddam Hussein.

    *EDIT: I dont care for Resident Evil 2 and I hate Leon and I want him to die...twice with accidents involving guns that launch flame throwers and magnetic honey badgers. ARC is to blame .

    u3u ....why you didn't just go play Dark Souls?
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    u3u ....why you didn't just go play Dark Souls?

    Ive done my crayon of doom quota for this week. You'll be surprised how many idiots believe the message " Gwyn is an easy fight if you go in naked with no weapons....trust me theres an obviously complex lore reason for this :O "...so many gullible idiots.
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  • daveleperdaveleper Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    From everything I've heard of Arc Games, count me out. If/when their launcher becomes mandatory to play Champions Online I'll be removing the game from my computer.

    Just as I was starting to get to the point where I might have started paying for a subscription.

    Way to go, PW!

    Oh, and the way I discovered all this? Trying to set up a new account for my GF. New registrations apparantly are only going to be recognized if you use ARC's launcher. ***** that.
  • eiledoneiledon Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Does Arc have it's flaws? Yes but they have stated they are being worked on (it is in beta)
    Has the communication/rollout been less than stellar? Yes, changes to the websites and loss of functionality hasnt been handled particularly well. But every new launch has its teething troubles.
    Is it the great satan a lot of people seem to want to make it out to be? No
    Is it worth quitting a game you enjoy because the launcher or website changes? No


    Companies consolidate processes all the time - it saves money (and thus in the long run makes money). It also frees up people who would otherwise be tied up maintaining single systems and makes them available for other things - like development of functionality rather than simple maintenance of old legacy systems.

    A lot of the raging seems to be based on others raging rather than first hand experience (tell me thats not a common symptom of MMOs). If that is the case, maybe it is time to take a step back and look at your reasons for ranting against Arc - Read the faq, try it out (atm its not mandatory to even keep it installed on your pc - so you can install it, install the game, get your freebies costumes and hideouts and then uninstall arc and the game will function fine without it)
  • dragyrdragyr Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My Account-> Games(who would have guessed??:eek::rolleyes:)-> if you can't figure it out from there then I really don't understand how you figured out how to use the internet in the first place.

    Like I said people, pretty much all of the complaints can be solved by simply taking 5 minutes and checking what stuff does.

    hhhmmm yeah... I looked at that on the Arc games sites. Oddly enough it said I wasn't playing any of their games, even though I have been registered with Perfect World since 2008 according to them. Still have Perfect World the game along with Champs and Star Trek among others on the computer. Most likely if you aren't logging in via the Arc Launcher the Arc site doesn't recognize a game as activated yet. I'm sure it will all be fixed as soon as they make Arc mandatory for non-Steam users.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I've seen (and made) some legit complaints about how Arc works. Most of the actual "raging" I've seen, though, seems to be based in a borderline-racist conviction that since PWE's parent company is based in China, that therefore this must be some sort of malware spyware virus thingy that will steal your information, destroy your computer, and plant the sign of the Beast on your forehead and right hand. (Ignoring the fact that if PWE were that interested in infecting your computers with spyware or viruses, they could have done that with a standard game update and you'd be none the wiser...)

    Yes, it uses some of your system resources. That's to enable certain features that Steam already has, as well as to make it easier for Cryptic/PWE to make sure you're not running some sort of mining bot as part of a goldspamming operation. (Don't see that much, if at all, in CO, but about once every day or two I have to report a goldspammer in STO, usually at ESD.) It doesn't eat enough to interfere with the game performance on most machines; it kills CO for my four-year-old laptop, though. (I do get a severe slowdown for about two minutes or so just after logging in to STO, then it goes away.) And we are assured by STO's community rep, Capt. Smirk, that the Arc programmers are trying to reduce that load. I'll believe it when I see it, of course, but I have to admit that it's a logical thing to do at this point.

    Meanwhile, there's still Steam. I'm using Steam to launch STO now, because for some reason the sound failed on my standalone launcher when Season 8 came out; I've tried CO with Steam to make sure it works well enough, so that I'm still covered if I haven't upgraded when the standalones fall, but I prefer using the standalone for now.
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I would never use Steam for the same reason I won't use Arc. I don't like external launchers. I'm not the only one.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    cryneting wrote: »
    Ahh ok well thanks for that. but qeastion is how am I going to change it now with this new crappy website?

    Same way you made it in the first place...

    Click "Private Messages" under where it says welcome so and so then click edit signature. Adjust so its the right size/amount of text and tada!

    One thing that isn't broken (so far)
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My Account-> Games(who would have guessed??:eek::rolleyes:)-> if you can't figure it out from there then I really don't understand how you figured out how to use the internet in the first place.

    Like I said people, pretty much all of the complaints can be solved by simply taking 5 minutes and checking what stuff does.

    yes, I did check what stuff does.

    I would assume that subscriptions are under Manage subscriptions NOT buy in-game cash under subscriptions.

    and by the way. Under the games>
    I have NO subscriptions and am listed as INACTIVE on all 3 games

    I can go to the subscriptions screen on the website and see my ACTIVE subscription for CO.

    yes I have logged in to the game with ARC.

    STO is listed as played for 5hrs, which is odd since I have never done more than 10minutes of the tutorial.

    what was that about working well?

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  • mrlunkovichmrlunkovich Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    chaelk wrote: »
    yes, I did check what stuff does.

    I would assume that subscriptions are under Manage subscriptions NOT buy in-game cash under subscriptions.

    and by the way. Under the games>
    I have NO subscriptions and am listed as INACTIVE on all 3 games

    I can go to the subscriptions screen on the website and see my ACTIVE subscription for CO.

    yes I have logged in to the game with ARC.

    STO is listed as played for 5hrs, which is odd since I have never done more than 10minutes of the tutorial.

    what was that about working well?


    yeah, there is no "Manage subscriptions" on the Arc client, you are referring to Manage Billing Information. Frankly none of what you are claiming is true. I honestly believe most of you are just lying about what "problems" you are having simply to gripe about something new. Arc has worked just fine for me and everyone I know. You want to claim that Arc shows you with no active subs yet the website does, screen shots or it didn't happen.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    yeah, there is no "Manage subscriptions" on the Arc client, you are referring to Manage Billing Information. Frankly none of what you are claiming is true. I honestly believe most of you are just lying about what "problems" you are having simply to gripe about something new. Arc has worked just fine for me and everyone I know. You want to claim that Arc shows you with no active subs yet the website does, screen shots or it didn't happen.

    Working on that with screenshots, so give me a sec to put it all together for you so you'll see.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ok since this pic is rather large I'll post the direct link here instead...

    Hope this helps you understand what's wrong. The typed info in yellow is my thoughts while looking at arcs webpage.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Since I still plan on subscribing one day, I tried to follow the instructions to sub. It wants me to go to the CO site - which autoredirects to the Arc site, in a great pointless loop of frustration. I've submitted a ticket; let's see if that helps anything.
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  • tigshadowtigshadow Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    you cannot access your subscription information via the perfect world link as it forces you to be pushed to arc and arc does not have a subscription page. I believe they rolled this out too soon for neglecting a major point people need to reach. They better have a subscription management page.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yes, you are correct . I misread billing information under account .

    The subscriptions issue however.

    One ARC page with inactive subscriptions
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    one accounts page with ACTIVE subscription
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    NOW what was that about LYING?

    For everyone else. TT has stickied a link to the subscription page .
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  • bluecanary99bluecanary99 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    eiledon wrote: »
    if you want to opt out of the auto redirect on the main co.perfectworld.com / sto.perfectworld.com / pwi.perfectworld.com etc so that you can access older information and links please do the following (found on multiple threads on PWI forum - they need this fix to access their DQ rewards and blessing giveaways etc)


    1. Install an adblocker for your browser
    2. block this code file: global_redirect.js

    This allows you to visit the old game pages directly without being forcibly booted to arc. you can still access the arc website by clicking on the link at the top of the forum page

    You, sir, are doing Pelor's work in a land of godless heathens. :biggrin:
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well, if Arc gets sorted out to a really workable state, maybe I won't ragequit. Maybe.

    I am very ragey.

    *rages*
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    mrlunkovich needs to know how the internet works:

    OK, so I get the general idea is that everyone hates the Arc Launcher client or website.

    People with complaints will post more often and more readily than people who do not have complaints. It's the way of the world.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jerax1011 wrote: »
    Signature/Avatar Rule Violation
    Signatures are limited to five lines of text, including blank lines, and/or an image. The total signature size must be no larger than 500x150 pixels and 50Kb in size if it contains an image. Images must be in .jpg format. The text in the signature may be customized by the BBCode in use on the forums. It is recommended that you stick with readable fonts and colors and that the size is not too large. You may mention websites and ventures that you are in some way related to, as long as they are otherwise appropriate for the community. Avatars are limited to 100x100 pixels, or 19.6 KB (whichever is smaller). No Animated images will be allowed. Strong political and religious sentiments should be kept out of profiles, signatures, and other content in this community. Failure to adhere to these rules will result in an infraction, and the removal of the offending signature or avatar.

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    I don't see how my avatar is too big. Untill TT comes to me and asks me to change it then I will. but I can't see how it is due to the fact that I had to change the size a few times before I posted it.

    And sorry that I don't trust you but I've had quite the issues with people telling me whats what in the past. so I beg you pardon if don't react and change it

    However I am thinking on changing my Signature that's more of my style, this qularr thing was just for the giggles....and mostly to anger my "Qularr friend"..god she will kill me if she see's this but anyways..I take your word that I need to change it but I won't just do it on your point out. if that makes any sense.
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Your avatar isn't, your signature is. That 500 x 150 rule? It's not just the picture, it's the entire signature, from the divider line to the last line.

    I recently had to shrink my graphic and remove some lines because I didn't notice that either.
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2014
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
    edited February 2014
    jerax1011 wrote: »
    Ok since this pic is rather large I'll post the direct link here instead...

    Hope this helps you understand what's wrong. The typed info in yellow is my thoughts while looking at arcs webpage.

    Thanks for pointing that out. I'll ask the CS team to change that link to the new page, and update the list of steps.

    chaelk wrote: »
    One ARC page with inactive subscriptions
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    one accounts page with ACTIVE subscription
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    Hmm. I'll bug this, get the Arc team to look into it. Thanks for the info.

    cryneting wrote: »
    However I am thinking on changing my Signature that's more of my style, this qularr thing was just for the giggles....and mostly to anger my "Qularr friend"..god she will kill me if she see's this but anyways..I take your word that I need to change it but I won't just do it on your point out. if that makes any sense.

    Yeah, the signature is a bit long, unfortunately. :/
  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If PWI wants us to be sold on ARC, they should actually finish the damn site before making it the default. When you have to use a ton of BS work arounds just to get basic info or access to important feature, that's a slap in the face for your customers. Last I checked, PWI was not some Indy studio that can't afford a team of professional designers and QA testers.
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  • chaoswolf820chaoswolf820 Posts: 734 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    OK, so I get the general idea is that everyone hates the Arc Launcher client or website. But honestly I am very confused about everyone's complaints. Can't change your billing info easy or manage your account? Umm, took me less then 2 minutes to find where to do it, frankly pretty much all of the complaints I have seen can be solved just by bothering to look at what all you can do. It really just seems like people are looking at something new and just saying screw this it sucks it is not what I am used to and then don't bother to take 5 minutes to learn some slightly different ways of doing things. Oh, and you do not need to use Arc to play CO, you can still launch the game with its own launcher same as before.

    It's because the "something new" was uncalled for, unnecessary, changed without warning, obnoxious, and forces us to either use it or "cheatcode" our way around it to get what we had before... and on top of all that, the "something new" clearly hasn't gotten enough feedback or testing or anything else from the people its aimed at - the players - or else it clearly wouldn't have come out in the current state if it came out at all.

    PWE just said "play this way or else".
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    eiledon wrote: »
    if you want to opt out of the auto redirect on the main co.perfectworld.com / sto.perfectworld.com / pwi.perfectworld.com etc so that you can access older information and links please do the following (found on multiple threads on PWI forum - they need this fix to access their DQ rewards and blessing giveaways etc)


    1. Install an adblocker for your browser
    2. block this code file: global_redirect.js

    This allows you to visit the old game pages directly without being forcibly booted to arc. you can still access the arc website by clicking on the link at the top of the forum page

    Okay, I added the adblocker from the first part, but I don't know how to do the second part. Is there some sort of drop down menu for that or...
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited February 2014
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    flyingfinn wrote: »

    Thanks, FF. :smile:
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ima gonna repeat myself in the slight chance someone in PWE sees this.

    Make it optional , more people will be happy to use it if its optional. The reason the console version of BL2 outsold the PC one was the fact they didn't need steam to run it.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nepht wrote: »
    Ima gonna repeat myself in the slight chance someone in PWE sees this.

    Make it optional , more people will be happy to use it if its optional. The reason the console version of BL2 outsold the PC one was the fact they didn't need steam to run it.

    That would be counter productive to the " by using this site, you agree to allow us to use cookies on your machine,"
    which if you read the privacy policy about cookies

    "so that we and our allied businesses(theres about 6) can send targeted advertising to you."

    "You may opt out of this advertising by contacting ......#@.....com(can't remenber it and I'm not rehunting it)

    Tried emailing it, bounced.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited February 2014


    Yeah, the signature is a bit long, unfortunately. :/



    Ok NP I will be changing quite soon
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    chaelk wrote: »
    That would be counter productive to the " by using this site, you agree to allow us to use cookies on your machine,"
    which if you read the privacy policy about cookies

    "so that we and our allied businesses(theres about 6) can send targeted advertising to you."

    "You may opt out of this advertising by contacting ......#@.....com(can't remenber it and I'm not rehunting it)

    Tried emailing it, bounced.

    Trust me, the old site used the same cookies (as do most sites) - why are they telling you about this when you first visit the new site? It's now a law that web sites have to inform you that they use cookies when you first visit.

    (I don't want to be forced to use ARC either; but as for the site, iit uses the same cookies the other versions had.)
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  • notburningchicknotburningchick Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I think we have a couple problems here.

    First, the site isn't complete and doesn't do what the old one did. It also has some "quirky" design decisions. And the site's live, non-optional and, therefore, not in beta. Those are all ... bad. Seriously? We're off into bush league territory here.

    If you're going to push a new interface forward, you have to get it right because first impressions last, especially if you're dealing with a community that already has reservations about you.

    Second, people ALWAYS hate new interfaces. Always. Fundamentally, it's because we're creatures of habit and don't like our patterns interrupted. See: Metro. (Note, I can't stand it, but Metro wasn't designed for people who use their computers for content creation -- see a MS UI designer's posts at Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/microsoft/comments/1srr93/the_next_windows_8_update_should_look_like_this/ce132dj ).

    All said, what we have here is a situation that's almost guaranteed to tick people off. And our corporate overlords tend to be OMG tone deaf when it comes to dealing with us.
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I was an early adopter to the Arc thing, I pretty much checked it out the second CO was available on it. So, I can't be accused of not giving it a fair shake or really checking it out. Here's my beef with it.

    The layout and interface isn't bad, I play a few PWE games (ok, 2) so it's pretty handy to switch between. That said? Always active in the background is a TERRIBLE design decision. Not everyone has 8 gigs of ram and a quad core processor, if I didn't upgrade my computer about 8 months back, I literally would be incapable of playing with Arc. As well, the fact that you have to right click it in the system tray to actually close it? Defeats the ENTIRE PURPOSE of the close button. Hell, guys, computers work like they do for a reason. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel, we know wtf a minimize button does. I've got 2 content management programs on my computer that do the same shady as hell thing, and the other one is the oh-so-popular Ea Origin launcher. Which, honestly, is about what I can compare Arc to. Sure, Arc loads a bit faster. It's also a bit more of a memory leaking mess, which is *awful* when you consider that so is Champs. Playing at the lower end of what are supposed to be the minimum specs, with Arc? Even with everything turned down, and on half rez, it's still a choppy mess. Playing on the easily tracked down recommended specs, with everything all the way down, is still barely doable.

    In its defense? It's flat out foolish to think that disks and stand alone games are going to be the norm within a few years. Direct digital distribution is a thing, and it'll become more of a thing as we go on. So, of course, content providers are going to want an easy way to advertise their games to you. They're also going to want a way to track if you have it installed, for DRM purposes. Put simply, I'm not *fond* of this kind of launcher, but if you are the sort to quit games entirely over them? Sell your pc, dude. The next few years are not going to be good for you, better switch to a console while you can.

    That said? The new website is a hideous laggy mess. I found everything easily enough, but I was also told in like 4 places that I was unsubbed, when I actually had a week and a half left. Well, I didn't bother logging in to check, I trusted the website. Now I've got 3 days left, and I just wasted about a week of my sub because I thought it was expired. And let me tell you how freaked out I was when it didn't even detect that I'd played the game. I've made no qualms about mentioning the fact that I've subbed for like 1300 days and the game is only crediting me for 700+. It looked like my play time got erased again, I would NOT want to be the customer rep on the phone when I called about that one. Thankfully, I finally found the manage subscription page, which prevented a serious cardiac event.

    I unsubbed on the spot, naturally. I'm not going to accrue game time until I'm sure it actually counts. You're not doing that to me again, Cryptic. 20 tickets and a few PMs later over a few years, I know how little y'all care.
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I had a subbing error a couple months ago (before ARC). I contacted customer service and they credited the correct number of days within three days.

    Sorry to hear about your experience.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    you mean like this, TT is passing it on to the ARC people or is manage subscriptions playing up?

    One ARC page with inactive subscriptions
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    one accounts page with ACTIVE subscription
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    as far as I can work out, my time played on STO is actually time to download the game. I haven't actually managed to get to the character screen
    Neverwinter is way off too. that's closer to the download time,. Yes it took all night because it kept stopping
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  • nixanixa Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I had installed through Steam and because of that, none of my subscription info showed up on ARC. So if that kind user hadn't had the direct link to the billing page, I'd have had nothing to do to stop being billed.

    PW is the worst thing to ever happen to CO.
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