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It's time for Enterprise to enter STO
scorpwanna
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They've bounced around with story arcs for many of the on screen series, I think it's time for Enterprise to enter STO. We've only got a few Enterprise items in the game, a ship, uniforms, pistols etc.. But I think it would be a cool idea to use what would have been Season 5 of Enterprise and turn that into a Campaign Event.
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The NX Enterprise appears in a couple of episodes, and we have Daniels and 'Future Man' who turns out to be Noy, and we have the Sphere Builders and the Nahkul etc, etc.....'Enterprise' is already in STO, with these elements taking up a hefty part in a couple of arcs.
I'd rather have an Enterprise arc than some TFOs I'll never play again after the event is over, I'm not a social person who plays with randos in my free time, most TFOs are pointless to me, unless they're event related and I get something out of it, I personally would love to see the Earth-Romulan War myself either in game or on screen, CBS make it happen, ENT season 5 would've also dealt with T'Pol being half-romulan as well as there being some plans involving the Kzinti which would mean that STO would have to talk to Larry Niven in order to do that, because apparently Kzinti aren't actually a Trek species.
It's been a long road
Gettin' from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near...
The NX makes a cameo or two in the distance, sure, and we do get some ships (mostly T5s) and some gear (like the Delphic weapons and a few Space Barbie items), but it is all part of the current time section of the Temporal Cold War that just happens to make very brief incursions into the ENT era rather than happening mainly in that era like TOS, DSC, and the Kelvin stuff does.
ENT is the only traditional Trek series that does not have any missions directly set in it, even the Temporal Cold War missions treat it as a sideshow at best and barely give it a nod, which is a far cry from an involved temporal fix episode (or even arc) set primarily in the ENT era with a temporal plot wrapper around it so our captains can be there and do something.
Trip isn't dead, why would they waste an entire episode about cloning him, if they planned to kill him off later, Reed's death on the other hand would've been more believable.
But I'm pretty sure the Drvs have said no to ENT content since it's the historically oldest series
Like I suggest in a previous similar thread my preference would be a dual-timeline mission where we'd be solving a mystery from that era rather then anything timetravel related.
Since there is little or no chance that there will ever be a 22nd century subfaction/recruitment/etc. doing a live 22nd century mission without time travel would have to be done using a premade throwaway temporary character rather than a character of one's own, and those kinds of missions have proven to be very unpopular.
Even if that throwaway is a variant of one of the player's own characters that runs in parallel with the player character (the Inquisitor is the only one I know of so far), that style of play is still unpopular, this forum was full of complaints about that very thing a short time ago in fact.
Since players do not respond well to throwaway characters the only other way to do a scenario like this would be to have it nothing but a holodeck play and those are not particularly well liked either, the schtick was overused ad nauseum during the Age of Discovery arc. The fact that story-wise it is nothing but going through the motions of a long dead incident does not do that holonovel approach any favors either.
The best approach would be to use the Temporal Cold War that was invented for ENT in the first place to actually do an arc set in that era where the focus is primarily on the ENT era and not just a quick incursion as part of an arc mainly set in a different era.
The fact that the cold war itself is all tied up in a neat bow is not a problem either, not only is time travel involved which opens the door to non-linear threads coming home to roost after the main event, but it could also be a number of other things driving the new episode/arc/whatever (like some contingency plan, an unanticipated side effect spinning up, or something entirely different that lights up the old cold war warning systems for some reason.
That's why I suggested a dual timeline, one where you use your character, another where you look at ENT era event from point of view of our character.
The whole point of the suggestion is to give something that's not really known, but doesn't involve timetravel with the issues of that.
You're right about not having another sub-faction, Cryptic said as much a few times already. The forum, however, was not full of complaints about using a throwaway character, it literally was less than ten people that complained, and there was absolutely no indication that it was the view of the majority, because everyone I play with, on PC and XBOX ENJOYED the feature. We also take part in TFO's on the holodeck. Every episode you repeat is on the holodeck. The majority of people don't care if an episode is itself is a holodeck recreation. Half a dozen complaints on the forum does not the majority make.
Precisely! The further back in time we go, the bigger the potential butterfly effect.
I didn't mind the Inquisitor, I thought it was pretty cool,
Because it's pointless, what you do in the holodeck doesn't matter one bit, you're playing the role of someone else who was actually there in a historical recreation.
Yep, Time Travel is the best way to go about it, you can interact with the characters, it's not like any of them never met a Time Traveller before (cough, cough, Daniels) a Starfleet PC can say that they just work for Daniels, a Romulan PC can pose as and lie about being a Vulcan since nobody knows what Romulans look like yet, Jemmy's are just another strange alien of the week and Klingons would have the hardest explanation because Archer is Q'onoS's public enemy number 1.
*shrug*
I think it was less mommy issues and more power corrupts. Its just that the main point of conflict was between Wesley and Dr. Crusher, which lead to the major conflict between the Terran Empire and the Federation.
We see in Emperor Wesley's memories that he was gifted, but had to hide it. Then he met the Traveler and Wesley took his power, and used it to become Emperor. Then... all he saw was what his power could give him, which spiraled into a rather destructive path where he believed that he was a God, and no one could stop him.
But even in the Mirror Universe, family is important, and after his final empowered outburst after we defeated him he realized he hurt his own mother. The fog of power was lifted, and we see that the Emperor isn't any more special than anyone else. He just let that power go to his head.
Basically... when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Doesn't matter who it is.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Would you trust an STO player to play by the Temporal Prime Directive!? You mean the Grandfather paradoxes caused in First Contact and by Quark and the gang in DS9 didn't affect the timeline?? Whilst it may be so if there was only a singular temporal universe, but as there are multiple timelines and universes, you are wrong. Total butteryfly effect and 100% changed the timeline. The original timelines would never have the Enterprise and Ferengi in the 60's, and an alternate timeline would be created by them traveling back in time, whilst the original carries on as is. Remember, we watch from the crew's point of view, meaning the universe they get back to most likely isn't the orignal one they left, because the original past has been changed. Timey-whimey shenanigans that can't be precisely controlled until you're in the 31st Century.
I'm perfectly fine with becoming my own Grandpa, I mean look at Bashir from DS9 and Fry from Futurama, it turned out pretty well for them,
Also Enterprise isn't that far back, the First Contact Day Event literally goes much farther into the past than Enterprise does,
Enterprise takes place in the 2150s, First Contact takes place in 2060s, during First Contact Day event mission Historical Bozeman, we travel to a whole century before the events of Enterprise.
Most of the Factions are covered except for the KDF, I'm just still trying to figure out a way to explain KDF pcs,
3/4 of the Alliance isn't bad if I do say so myself.
Also, the Klingons are not all of the KDF, chances are there would be more Orions doing the mission(s) than Klingons judging by how many more Orions seems to in social zones than Klingons, and at the time the Orions were neutral so the locals would not think of them as KDF.