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We now have 4 different recruitment events, the Delta Recruit, the Temporal Recruit, the Gamma Recruit and finally the Klingon Recruit.
Whilst I understand that the Delta recruit is applicable to all factions, I feel that the Romulans need a recruitment event.
Now I know this has been discussed a number of times on this forum by many different people for many different reasons, so I thought I would give my reasons as to why I think a ROM event is sorely needed.
Honestly I am not overly concerned with a new 'ship' like the Klingons got, as no other recruitment event has a free ship included in the event, but what would be nice is if the event did give us a choice between ship equipment and weapons OR player equipment and weapons that are geared towards stealth, flanking and exposing your targets.
Story wise the event could see your character being recruited as a counter intelligence operative to finally dismantle the Tal Shiar leadership, so they do not interfere in the development of New Romulus.
Well these are my thoughts, please feel free to comment, add any ideas or just completely dismiss/rip apart my idea. I welcome all feedback and welcome any and all comment both positive and negative.
Whilst I understand that the Delta recruit is applicable to all factions, I feel that the Romulans need a recruitment event.
Now I know this has been discussed a number of times on this forum by many different people for many different reasons, so I thought I would give my reasons as to why I think a ROM event is sorely needed.
- Whereas the Klingon event used ambush kill as a recruitment goal, the Romulan event could expose a target whilst cloaked as a goal. It just seems more in line with the Rom way of fighting.
- With the Klingons you have to achieve a set number of melee kills, for the Romulans I suggest stealth and expose/flank attacks.
- With Delta and Temporal events you have to find devices in certain missions, with the Rom's you have to install listening/spy devices at certain locations during missions.
- The Klingons have 'Slay enemies of the Empire', this could be directly transferred over to the Romulans but instead of 'Empire' replace it with 'Republic' and the missions could be focused around finding and killing Tal Shiar agents.
Honestly I am not overly concerned with a new 'ship' like the Klingons got, as no other recruitment event has a free ship included in the event, but what would be nice is if the event did give us a choice between ship equipment and weapons OR player equipment and weapons that are geared towards stealth, flanking and exposing your targets.
Story wise the event could see your character being recruited as a counter intelligence operative to finally dismantle the Tal Shiar leadership, so they do not interfere in the development of New Romulus.
Well these are my thoughts, please feel free to comment, add any ideas or just completely dismiss/rip apart my idea. I welcome all feedback and welcome any and all comment both positive and negative.
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And no, the first season doesn't count, since that wasn't the actual Romulan nation, just a very small and obscure part of it that nobody even really knew existed, unlike the Tal Shiar...that apparently either had access to one of the Dominion's old shipyards or at least a few dozen hands in some VERY deep pockets to be able to have the fleet they did at the end.
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The problem with your suggestion is that you are assuming that the Romulan Republic is the same as the Romulan Empire, when it actually isn't. The Tal-Shiar is practically defunct and defeated now. The Republic does not have the same motivations as the old Empire and the Tal-Shiar....why would they spy on and hunt folk when they are more interested in showing they can be trusted?
A better idea would be a cross-faction 'Section31/Tal-Shiar and what the equivalent of the KDF' spy event, where they are trying to subvert a supposed action or similar, only to be told at the end 'it was all a ruse/dream'.
However, as far as we know, this is unlikely to affect episodes retrospectively because Cryptic does not want to revisit old missions, and it does not look like they are going to do anymore faction unique missions. The Romulans have the largest count of unique missions in the game, more than DSC, TOS, Jem and 2409 COMBINED, and more than the KDF. The faction that has been 'forgotten' (Using a very nice term, might I add) is 2409 Feds whose episode count was halved because they claimed they were going to revamp the missions (pretty much how they revamped Rom and KDF missions) only for them to be, practically, shelved.
I may be in the minority, but the ONLY reason i have a Jem is to unlock the ships.
Not from what I have heard and seen, many people say they don't want to play horneytoads in chat, and if you look at the histories on MMO Populations the Gamma recruit event does not have the upswing in concurrent players the way the other recruitments do. So I don't think you are in the minority for not liking playing J'H.
I am in the same boat, I have two accounts (my new (now main) account I made while customer service was trying to fix and resurrect my original one, and the original one) and only have a Gamma recruit because I cannot get into character with a Jem'Hadar and without that connection it made anything I did on the ground with the thing (the bugship is nice enough and I can assume that a Vorta captains it like it is done in canon) an odious boring grind I refuse to do again for the other account.
Personally, I would not mind if they dropped Gamma and brought in a different recruitment, but don't see the devs ever doing that. Not only would it be a lot of work wasted if they did dump Gamma, some of the devs actually seem to like the horrid one-trick ponies that the horneytoads are and at the same time disfavor the Vorta (and/or other Gamma races) that would attract the players who cannot stand the toads.
Also, as has been pointed out in a previous thread on this subject, Delta is pretty much a natural recruitment event for the Romulans considering that they lead the Alpha/Beta quadrant efforts in Delta since they control the access to the gates that lead to Delta quadrant and are the most active in efforts to secure the spheres.
The recruitment events are delineated by major points of lore, not differences in gameplay mechanics, the stuff the OP proposes are just line-item things that might even be able to be implemented in Delta since the game already tracks which factions a player has completed Delta objectives with. Personally, I don't see how it is even necessary since, as leemwatson points out, it makes little sense to try and saddle the Romulan Republic with the corrupt practices of the old RSE. The only Recruitment event that is broken enough to need a substantial replace or rework is the Gamma one, and that only needs it because the only "faction" that can use it is so broken.
Considering that whenever they added a new Recruit event, they gave us a free character slot... if they did this they probably would give us a character slot.
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Unfortunately it seems this is one of the many topics that the player base can not fully get behind, along with new factions like ENT era for FED,KLINK and ROM, or the divisiveness around lock boxes.
I was hoping for a spirited discussion where players and fans could unite and put their ideas down and eventually flesh out a workable idea as a community, but it sadly seems we are too divided.
Maybe someone else will come up with a workable idea that can unite the fan base in a way that encapsulates the best ideals of the Federation.
The fact Roms already have a recruit option doesn't mean it can't happen, it's more likely not going to happen. Some players are asking for DSC recruit event, for which there is none.
The equipment rewards for levelling are useless to every faction anyway, it's better to engineer the equipment on another toon and slap a phoenix upgrade on it, and this saves time in having to swap out all that equipment every 30 minutes of game time.
My initial idea was to have a gear set either space or ground set that was geared towards stealth and exploit or flank damage in leau of the exclusive raider and Bat'leth that the Klingon's got. But as you quite rightly said the players are clamouring for different recruitment events, some for Fed 2409 some for DSC. I just thought seeing's as FED already has the Temporal, KLING has their own event and Dominion has the Gamma event that the ROM needed their own event as well. Pipe dreams I suppose.
I understand that the goal rewards are only meant as placeholders but for new character/players who are still learning the game mechanics having a set of MKX gear to use your phoenix upgrades on that are geared towards a set playstyle (i.e. stealth/expose/flank) is a good way to start. maybe this could be worked into the other events so Phasers get an increased chance of dropping shields, Disruptors get increased shield penetration after cloak drop and Polaron get increased DOT effect (as an example).
More likely to see another Federation recruitment when Cryptic goes back to their own story again instead of more show related stuff
Yep, the imperial navy set - https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Romulan_Imperial_Navy_set
Oh I get what you mean, but the original Delta Recruit was designed to be all inclusive to the 3 factions that were available at the time.
Early level toons can still create MK II equipment. A Phoenix upgrade on most items will carry it through to MK X. There's merit in suggestions for specialised equipment and traits, which they have done. We can but hope on that front.
Side note: 2409 Feds don't have Temporal, that's TOS toons. So it's 2409 Fed, Roms and DSC that don't have a dedicated recruitment event. Some folk consider the mini-factions of TOS, DSC and the 2409 Fed faction seperate.....fickle I know!
I know what you mean, it would be nice for all starting factions to have a recruitment event, but failing that maybe just a single event for each of the 4 factions to run in each 'season' then a multi faction event (like the Delta event) to run over the Christmas and New Year period.
I understand that means getting rid of the Temporal event but to replace it with an inclusive FED event that encompasses all 3 starting factions should make all the fickle ones less irate especially if it has a good backstory. Maybe go the Klingon event route and give a nice cruiser (maybe a shiny new T6 Vesta).
I have to admit though the Gamma event needs a lot of work. There seems to be no real reason to play through it other than unlock multi-class ships. the goal rewards are nothing to get excited about. Maybe if the devs added the Vorta or even a Changeling to the character creator then that might make the Gamma species more appealing.
The klingon event is great as it is so leave it as it is.
The Delta event just needs updating slightly to include newer missions and maybe tweak some of the goal rewards.
Lets just hope the Devs read these forums.
There's no need to dump Temporal, and it would ensue the absolute wrath of the playerbase if it was. It is probably the best Recruit event in the game for it's benefits. Merging all three into a single event won't work due to Feds starting in 3 different timelines, however, they could feasibly 'blend' Temporal to include DSC, but I'm sure I heard there would be great difficulty due to the TOS objectives programmed. I really don't think they'll make another Vesta as they've just released the legendary....unless it's MW.
The Jem'hadar faction is called that for a reason. If it was the 'Dominion' faction, you would have a point, but AFAIK changelings is practically 'no chance' from the Dev's.
At the moment, it's a recruitment event per quarter, so to best accomodate extra recruitments
1) Delta
2) Jem'hadar
3) Proposed Rom/2409 recruitment and KDF running concurrently
4) TOS and Proposed DSC recruitment.
If they flood Recruitment events to more per year it will distract from Feature TFO's, Season Events and Episodic launches.
What they call the so-called "faction" is irrelevant, the important part is the fact that (for all the reasons already stated in this thread about it) it is so niche that it doesn't appeal to enough of the players to make a noticeable rise in player participation in the Gamma Recruitment event the way the others do (along with other problems that niche treatment causes) makes it feel like a waste of one of the four recruitment slots.
They could eliminate the niche problem by adding Vorta (and better yet Vorta plus "Alien"), but as it stands now if one of the current recruitments had to be eliminated to make room for a new recruitment (unlikely as it is that the devs would make one) the one that the fewest people would object to its elimination is the Gamma Recruitment.
This would be most welcome; a "Year of Romulan" absolutely needs to happen after YoK and the lot of (very nice) Terran stuff. More menacing Borg & Elachi (and combat achievements against the Collective and Iconian Whole), more Disruptor/Plasma weaponry, debugging old costumes/uniforms (and adding few new ones), facial hair options (and updating the hairstyles), adding new sectors to the Beta Quadrant, a new ShiKahr/Vulcan map, expanded New Romulus map (esp. into the Citadel and Reman area), R&D achievements relating to The Vault (along with fixing the Defera Zone R&D), further exploring the origins of the Tal'Shiar, discussing Mnhei'sahe & D'era, having a new mission (or a few) take place in Vorta Vor, reworking of old missions to be able to un-necessitate Tovan Khev & sister, resettlement of Crateris and Virinat, a third ground weapon slot for meant for but not restricted to melee (and the introduction of Honor/Shadow Blades), a Nopada Prime adventure zone (collecting bits and pieces of tech and TS holdouts), the Republic having internal stress over rival "Traditonalist" v. "Reformist" camps (the former being closer to Obisek and the latter being closer to D'Tan), perhaps the Star Empire having a significant split along anti-Servitor v. pro-Servitor lines?
Perhaps something like "Unification Recruitment", with a Ni'Var tie-in. The theme being something along the lines of "For the survival of our people", an original or semi-original character to guide the recruitee (perhaps 23c or 24c Dvex), and a Heavy Pistol (pistol from promo material) + Khenn (Command) Warbird refit + special DOff. (perhaps one of the Fleet Support powers, such as the Auxiliary to Structural heal variant of Damage Control Engineer) as rewards?
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
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I don't see Legacy of Romulus as an actual Year of Romulan event, it's mostly just adding the faction to the game which they couldn't originally do at the start of the game.
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True, but that was half a decade ago so another one would be nice since they have mostly been concentrating on the other two and a half factions since then.
But they haven't focused on 2409 Feds.....they were going to, then said 'can't be bothered' after ripping out half their content. Roms got a huge over-haul the year before the KDF did, so I don't see why Rom's should be the immediate concern over a DSC/2409 Fed recruitment.
as for DSC Recruitment you need one that works coherently with it, Temporal doesn't quite work since there's no Na'kulh to hunt down and as for Delta I doubt that DSC would break the timeline to warn themselves about the Iconians return, you'll really need something J'Ula focused for them.
Sorry my mistake, when I wrote this I was thinking of the T5 Star Cruiser (the original flagship from the original 2409 tutorial). NOT the Vesta and her related variants.
> Year of Romulan? We had "Year of Romulan". It was called Legacy of Romulus.
Heh that would be a bad metric to base recruitment off of. "Eh the game launched as Federation so we never need an event for them" XD
I feel like Romulan Recruits should be bit more unique than your average Republic Romulan, Romulan Republic Recruits seems like a boring and redundant name, maybe Tal Shiar recruits, or if we add Picard elements either Zhat Vash or Qowat Milet recruitment could work as better names, which really depends on if the recruitment event is written as if you actual allies of D'Tan's movement or as deep cover spies/agents that infiltrated the Republic, seeing as it could go either way for Romulans.
EDIT: Also one of the unlockables should be facial hair for male Romulans since it's now canon.