Doesn't really matter. They could make $7,000,000 USD worth of Dilithium per month. No one's buying. 🤷🏼♀️
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I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Just because many of us in this thread don't personally have a need for Dil anymore doesn't mean that the entire playerbase doesn't. STO attracts many new players, and those folks all need to get dil to get the same gear that we all grinded for years ago.
Cost to get one Colony holding to Tier 5 - 90,000,000 dilithium or $1800 USD
Earnings of one alleged bot farm per month - 350,000,000 dilithium or $7000 USD
Which means that with just that one nefarious actor, they are taking a large chunk of the Zen that legitimate players could be getting, and are making the backlog situation even worse.
With that figure of $3k USD of zen moving throughout DilEx daily, that comes out to $90k worth, or 9,000,000 Zen over a 30 day period. That one nefarious actor is taking up 700,000 of that Zen, or ~7.78% of the Zen moving through the DilEx. And again, that is just that one nefarious actor, and there are several more out there.
Ok. Apparently, hyperbole is lost on this crowd. 🙄
I didn't mean literally no one is buying it. Hell, I'm buying it! I meant not enough people are buying it.
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Ok. Linking an article containing the same information as the video, which also has links to the video, also not good. Let's, please, not do this either. Thank you.
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The current backlog is down to 8.1 Million. It was 8.4 Mil on the 5th. It's continuing to go down even with the sales being over, so it's clear Cryptic has done something. Bot banning seems to be the most likely.
I just thought about something, the private queues allow a single player to do a task force, what if cryptic were to put in a minimum player count of, for example, 2 players in order to play a private instance? That should cut down on the number of bots at least for a little while.
Bots aren't even really the issue. Bots are a smoke screen. Cryptic would love you to believe botting is an actual real issue. I am not suggesting no one has ever tried to use a BOT in STO... but the freq is HIGHLY over rated.
Dill is NOT hard to get. Lets be honest most players can do 1-3 ques a day per toon and easily refine 8k. After you have done that for awhile you get a backlog of Reputation marks which you can turn in 15 at a time. Meaning you don't HAVE to play 20 toons 1-3 ques a day. Just a couple will do. Once you have marks in every reputation logging in and starting the 1hr mission, then coming back 1-2 hours later and doing it a second time easily nets you 8k a day. Its NOT hard to farm dill. You don't NEED to bot it. That is just the truth. Throw in Admiralty if you want.
Its not botting or even "Farming" to earn dill for 20 or 30 toons if you play daily. As long as your the type of player that is willing to play a few different toons. Just run 2 or 3 random ques on a few different toons every day and after a month or so you have more then enough marks to do a quick log and click on days your not playing those toons.
The issue is what the Dill resource is good for... Cryptic is their own enemy here because they don't seem to understand their own system. They are selling free event items directly for Zen.... which proves they have no clue. If they sold those items for Dill they would make the same amount of $, but the game economy would be healthier. They would make the same amount of $. The Colony/Fleet sinks worked... but then they decided the game didn't need any work done on that stuff anymore. All they do now is work on ship skins to sell new ship packs. They could easily add new tiers to old fleet holdings (which doesn't require new asset work). They want more sinks. Start bumping the minor holdings research lab, K-13, Spire, Embassy to Tier 4. They could bump two a year and have sinks for 2 more years. Take them to Tier 4, take some of the old items like Embassy consoles and give them a stat update, sell them for more Dill cost then the old versions. Spire consoles same thing update them a bit... give people a reason to replace their current gold gear with new gear that will cost Dill and require upgrading which costs more dill. Zero asset work... simply copy and paste item change states unlock at Tier 4. Roll each Tier 4 bump out every 4-6 months. They have so many easy low effort fixes... but they can't even be bothered with those.
How are bots a smoke-screen!?
Because, as has been repeatedly pointed out, the problem isn't the supply of Dilithium - it's the demand for Dilithium. Until there's some reason for folks with Zen to want to frequently sell their Zen for Dil, the market's going to remain at its cap.
Sorry, I think you misinterpreted what I said. It's not a smoke screen as husankx claims simply because Cryptic isn't banging on that it's the 'sole' issue regarding this. Dev's have said on numerous occasions it's demand, but that seems lost on husankx.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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Make universal seating truly universal sure you can have sci,tac,eng but at the moment you cant use the other types in the universals seats
Then that would have to be applied to ALL other universal seats, otherwise outrage because "Why is this one universal and this one isn't?" Also, the fact that universal seats have been around forever in their current incarnation.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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Make universal seating truly universal sure you can have sci,tac,eng but at the moment you cant use the other types in the universals seats
Then that would have to be applied to ALL other universal seats, otherwise outrage because "Why is this one universal and this one isn't?" Also, the fact that universal seats have been around forever in their current incarnation.
they could just do what they did when t6 came out sale upgrade tokens like they did for t5 to make them into t5u
they could just do what they did when t6 came out sale upgrade tokens like they did for t5 to make them into t5u
You mean the already existing Experimental upgrades that add a universal console slot, device slot, and ship specific trait slot that make T6 into T6X?
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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If no one is buying how are dil to zen orders getting filled?
I think you're taking Baddmoon's words a bit too literal.
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Aye, I even recommended in the first two minutes of said video to not post it here.
That's not true though. There is still Zen being sold for Dil every day. About $3,000 USD worth of Zen Daily based on the latest numbers from Plan_Tain on r/sto.
Just because many of us in this thread don't personally have a need for Dil anymore doesn't mean that the entire playerbase doesn't. STO attracts many new players, and those folks all need to get dil to get the same gear that we all grinded for years ago.
Which means that with just that one nefarious actor, they are taking a large chunk of the Zen that legitimate players could be getting, and are making the backlog situation even worse.
With that figure of $3k USD of zen moving throughout DilEx daily, that comes out to $90k worth, or 9,000,000 Zen over a 30 day period. That one nefarious actor is taking up 700,000 of that Zen, or ~7.78% of the Zen moving through the DilEx. And again, that is just that one nefarious actor, and there are several more out there.
Even Bort's tweet a while back regarding admiralty pointed towards the issue being with partially due to an over-supply of Dilithium. For which, these nefarious actors in the game are clearly having a massive impact.
I didn't mean literally no one is buying it. Hell, I'm buying it! I meant not enough people are buying it.
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Make universal seating truly universal sure you can have sci,tac,eng but at the moment you cant use the other types in the universals seats
Sorry, I think you misinterpreted what I said. It's not a smoke screen as husankx claims simply because Cryptic isn't banging on that it's the 'sole' issue regarding this. Dev's have said on numerous occasions it's demand, but that seems lost on husankx.
Then that would have to be applied to ALL other universal seats, otherwise outrage because "Why is this one universal and this one isn't?" Also, the fact that universal seats have been around forever in their current incarnation.
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If the quantity is large enough even a Colony holding part deux with double the dil cost and Tier 8 starships for dil won't necessarily help.
One of Bort's tweets, from just a few posts above, seems to point to an over supply of dil as part of the issue.
Here's direct links to all three of his tweets from last September in the order they were made for context.
They were also posted on page 7 of this thread and on page 26 of the reddit twitter dev tracker thread.
Tweet 1/3
Tweet 2/3
Tweet 3/3
You mean the already existing Experimental upgrades that add a universal console slot, device slot, and ship specific trait slot that make T6 into T6X?
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