The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
I already have too many ships in general. And with the exception of the Mirror Engle, I own all of them as I bought the Legendary bundle.
Visually the ships are ok, but that isn't enough for me to buy ships I already own again. I can only fly one ship at a time anyway, so flying these would likely mean that other (expensive) ships are left to collect dust.
The stats are also not very impressive. For some ships they're nice changes, for others not so. Command specialisation on a sci ship for example isn't the most useful one I can think of. The Defiant sacrifices an aft weapon slot for raider flanking - but on the toons where I care about this, I already have it through a console or the intelligence tree.
The cruisers and especially the Odyssey are perhaps the most interesting ones, but even these don't seem much better than the ones from the Legendary pack. If I want to use a MW cruiser, I can use the Assault one from the 10th anniversary pack.
Maybe, just maybe I'll get it for the title (I have a Voth inquisitor) and the Engle as I had considered getting the Earhart before. I'll have to see the ships in the game first, maybe that'll convince me.
If this is typical of how Gearbox wants to entice me into spending more money. I am sold on the bundle for the sale price. Thinking it was going to be priced higher, I was just going to buy one or two ships at the most. Now I am going to be buying the bundle!
It's definitely an improvement that you can buy the ships in the bundle individually, I think.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
It's definitely an improvement that you can buy the ships in the bundle individually, I think.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
All of the new Mirror ships were made specifically for the Terran enemy groups to use, Cryptic's ability to sell them to us is just a secondary bonus. The Bozeman (Reliant), Cabot (Shran), and Kuumaarke's Mirror Somerville WILL all be made available at some point but for whatever reason they decided they weren't the right ships for this particular bundle (the Bozeman in particular may have been delayed due to two other Miranda variants being released in 2021). It's also possible that one or two of these could become event ships for the Spring and Fall content releases like the Mirror Gagarin was.
With all the specs now released i am at "Interesting".
4 Terran ships with an agony phaser lance, kind of predicable consoles, aggressive boff layout and Terran visuals.
Contrary to the 10th bundle which i almost grind down with game play (not completely but close enough) this bundle is simply not in a "i want" category.
It's a crying shame they did not include some Terran Nova variant. The design from which the Nova originated was first proposed for the defiant. Would have been awesome had the bundle gone down that route.
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The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
Thats the twist!.. they have been there all along!! under our noses!
The Galaxy was the main draw for me but after reading the blog? No thanks. No updated red livery for the actual Galaxy class unlike every other ship. The boff layout, while different isn't really what I wanted either. Oh well. The Lexington trait does look really strong so I might get that separately eventually.
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I admit I'm surprised, I'd consider some of these ships if they offered a Starter Bundle with 2, might also get some other Starter Bundles from 10th or 11th with just 2 Ships. The cost though it's a bit higher than I expected perhaps because of the add-on included in the larger sale.
Still I think this is nicer way, to offer players a choice for 12th Anniversary!
"As an alternative to the great deal that this Bundle offers, the four new Terran starships will also be made available as separate purchases on the Z-Store, at the standard price of a Tier 6 Starship: 3,000 Zen each. These starships will participate in a Z-Store-Wide Ship Sale which will be active from February 17th, 2022 until February 22nd, 2022, reducing this price to 2,400 Zen each (20% Off!). **"
So I'm very happy they made this compromise for 12th Anniversary!
Hopefully they consider a 2 Starter Ship Bundle for 10th, and 11th in future! To make the reduced cost more moderate for the fuller bundle later on, to allow some to break into the acquisition of the Legendary Ships.
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I don't think these are Legendary, yet they have variations to Stations, Consoles, and Specializations and such. So it finds a nice balance and approach, so thank you!
Even though you forgo the Lockbox Ship, by purchasing the others separately.
The Galaxy was the main draw for me but after reading the blog? No thanks. No updated red livery for the actual Galaxy class unlike every other ship. The boff layout, while different isn't really what I wanted either. Oh well. The Lexington trait does look really strong so I might get that separately eventually.
The only thing I think its missing is at least a 7 turn rate and 4 engi /3 sci /4 Tac layout as it seems they want it to be a Tac/Sci cruiser. But then again I'm not a huge fan of temp ops even though the abilities are quite good, much better then pilot. But I play my galaxy as a tank so the temp ops + battlecruiser makes it non starter for me. The oddy however will make a great tank. Finally a Intel raider with cloak!! Just waiting for my mirror T'liss raider now, with full command seating.
I concerned we may have missed the sale, from the blog The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002. **
The intro bundle discount use to be 35% but since the Agile Bundle with the Nova, it has been 25% which is kinda annoying. I'm debating on buying the bundle now or wait for a 35% bundle sale. I will probably just buy it now and eat the 10% but it is still annoying not getting the 35% we use to.
I admit I'm surprised, I'd consider some of these ships if they offered a Starter Bundle with 2, might also get some other Starter Bundles from 10th or 11th with just 2 Ships. The cost though it's a bit higher than I expected perhaps because of the add-on included in the larger sale.
Still I think this is nicer way, to offer players a choice for 12th Anniversary!
"As an alternative to the great deal that this Bundle offers, the four new Terran starships will also be made available as separate purchases on the Z-Store, at the standard price of a Tier 6 Starship: 3,000 Zen each. These starships will participate in a Z-Store-Wide Ship Sale which will be active from February 17th, 2022 until February 22nd, 2022, reducing this price to 2,400 Zen each (20% Off!). **"
So I'm very happy they made this compromise for 12th Anniversary!
Hopefully they consider a 2 Starter Ship Bundle for 10th, and 11th in future! To make the reduced cost more moderate for the fuller bundle later on, to allow some to break into the acquisition of the Legendary Ships.
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I don't think these are Legendary, yet they have variations to Stations, Consoles, and Specializations and such. So it finds a nice balance and approach, so thank you!
Even though you forgo the Lockbox Ship, by purchasing the others separately.
That's because these are not Legendary ships. They're standard, fleet-level T6s.
I know still I'm very happy, cause I can still consider 2-4 Ships over time. First I'm considering the Voyager variation, and also the Starcruiser. I may later also consider the Andromedia, yet really like the cool Defiant twist introduced too.
Here's my nitpicks on the bundle which I think is still a pretty good value if one's inclined to have all 6 ships.
Cryptic should've:
Had the uniform variants accessible by all factions.
Had the Adamant with Improved Raider Flanking.
Had the Agony Quad Cannons useable along with Phaser Cannons since they're probably not.
Had a different gimmick on the Trailblazer other than another Agony Phaser Lance.
Also, just in case, make sure the 6x Ship Slots are useable across the account & not for only 1 character.
Replace the 12x, losing, Keys with another Agony Phaser space weapon crate which is actually useful.
Otherwise, I really dig the Cygnus & Adamant designs but all the ships look good.
The consoles & traits sound interesting but no way to tell if any good till reviews are read/watched.
The stats & seatings seem on par with some better than others but nothing too terrible.
While I'm not completely sold on this bundle it's nicely tempting.
I agree its shame the costumes aren't. Adamant probably has battle cloak, so the lack of improved raider flanking makes sense.
I could see them both quads being usable, but who knows.
Trailer blazer is a 4/3 science ship so its a spearhead, those are one of the best there are, it also has command so I suspect it make a good torp platform as well.
It likely 1 character unlocks on the ship slots I hope they can open separately so you can transfer them.
Meh the keys are worth EC or free lobi though strieght up free lobi would be way better replacement.
Traits are not bad but not best in slot, the seating is mostly outstanding though lt temp ops on the adamant is just not useful *shrug*
MW lt, I think intel would have been better on the on the trail blazer.
id buy the odyssey for the visual alone
BUT I WILL NOT BUY THIS BUNDLE JUST FOR THAT
They are selling them both bundled (with the Engle and Uniforms) or as individual C-Store Purchases. I think $24 each on sale, rising to $30 each regular price. So same as every other C-store ship.
Why if the Terran ships are usually more tactical base is the Oddy and Galaxy Terran variants still holding the same console layout as the prime universe ships. It makes no sense that a Terran Galaxy holds the same 5 engineering console slots and only 3 tactical console slots adding tactical officer seating giving it a 5-3 wpns loadout doesn't qualify as a tactical ship it still lacks the ability to be able to put that new setup to good use. The Legendary Mirror Dreadnought at least got a 5-3 wpns loadout that it should have had from the beginning minus the lack of a 5th tactical console instead of the 5th engineering console. The T5 ships are set up different than the prime universe T5's seating and console layouts so why is there the lack of changes to the T6 mirror ships?
I'm rather disapointed, the Andromedia didn't offer more Tactical Consoles. Still there are ways around it with Universal's that boost Phaser%, or All Damage %.
So seems it will just require a bit more creativity, that's my only guess... ...yet I would have liked to see a bit more console variations more for sure!
I'm rather disapointed, the Andromedia didn't offer more Tactical Consoles. Still there are ways around it with Universal's that boost Phaser%, or All Damage %.
So seems it will just require a bit more creativity, that's my only guess... ...yet I would have like to see console variations more for sure!
It is what it is.
Yeah, considering we already have two other versions of the galaxy with only three tac slots there was no harm in adding a fourth tac slot for this one.
ok I'm very conflicted about this bundle on the one hand there is a lot good things I could probably find use for at a semi reason price point on the other hand I have way too much stuff I don't use and this is all basically fed stuff and I don't need any more things for my terran fed, the other terran pack covers it... I mean I'm getting the warship voyager I mean I have the coupon already so it be free ish. but the rest of it I 'm not sure about.
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I'm rather disapointed, the Andromedia didn't offer more Tactical Consoles. Still there are ways around it with Universal's that boost Phaser%, or All Damage %.
So seems it will just require a bit more creativity, that's my only guess... ...yet I would have like to see console variations more for sure!
It is what it is.
Yeah, considering we already have two other versions of the galaxy with only three tac slots there was no harm in adding a fourth tac slot for this one.
True, not even the Ross have 4 tacs, it was a good oportunity to create something different, just 4 eng, 3 sci and 4 tacs..
Another thing I'm wondering about is why strip the Mirror Adamant down to 5/*1* on weapons? The standard seemed to be 4/3 or 5/2 on other versions, even the legendary 10th anniversary one. I'm curious what the rationale is for this.
If the reason were if the ship has intrinsic cloak and raider flanking, then that's massively outdated since now it'd make the ship less valuable in favor of non-nerved cloaking ships, after they let everyone have access to every ship. Why fly that when you can fly a Klingon or Romulan ship, or a lockbox ship or other legendary ship with similar functionality that isn't hit that hard?
The combo of raider flanking, dual spec with full intel features, possible intrinsic cloak... that all doesn't seem like it significantly outdoes other legendary ships enough to warrant dropping the weapon slots down that low. And we have the legendary Intrepid which does everything, and now this same bundle is adding another legendary Intrepid which drops the hangar in favor of an intrinsic lance weapon and swaps full miracle worker for full command while still being dual spec. I don't get it.
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good thing you can buy it individually.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
I already have too many ships in general. And with the exception of the Mirror Engle, I own all of them as I bought the Legendary bundle.
Visually the ships are ok, but that isn't enough for me to buy ships I already own again. I can only fly one ship at a time anyway, so flying these would likely mean that other (expensive) ships are left to collect dust.
The stats are also not very impressive. For some ships they're nice changes, for others not so. Command specialisation on a sci ship for example isn't the most useful one I can think of. The Defiant sacrifices an aft weapon slot for raider flanking - but on the toons where I care about this, I already have it through a console or the intelligence tree.
The cruisers and especially the Odyssey are perhaps the most interesting ones, but even these don't seem much better than the ones from the Legendary pack. If I want to use a MW cruiser, I can use the Assault one from the 10th anniversary pack.
Maybe, just maybe I'll get it for the title (I have a Voth inquisitor) and the Engle as I had considered getting the Earhart before. I'll have to see the ships in the game first, maybe that'll convince me.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
All of the new Mirror ships were made specifically for the Terran enemy groups to use, Cryptic's ability to sell them to us is just a secondary bonus. The Bozeman (Reliant), Cabot (Shran), and Kuumaarke's Mirror Somerville WILL all be made available at some point but for whatever reason they decided they weren't the right ships for this particular bundle (the Bozeman in particular may have been delayed due to two other Miranda variants being released in 2021). It's also possible that one or two of these could become event ships for the Spring and Fall content releases like the Mirror Gagarin was.
4 Terran ships with an agony phaser lance, kind of predicable consoles, aggressive boff layout and Terran visuals.
Contrary to the 10th bundle which i almost grind down with game play (not completely but close enough) this bundle is simply not in a "i want" category.
It's a crying shame they did not include some Terran Nova variant. The design from which the Nova originated was first proposed for the defiant. Would have been awesome had the bundle gone down that route.
I figure the mirror Somerville, at the very least, would fit into that.
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Thats the twist!.. they have been there all along!! under our noses!
Likely another mirror 2 ship bundle later this year, when they release the next mirror episode with who ever the Terran emperor is.
Still I think this is nicer way, to offer players a choice for 12th Anniversary!
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507853-the-12th-anniversary-terran-bundle!
"As an alternative to the great deal that this Bundle offers, the four new Terran starships will also be made available as separate purchases on the Z-Store, at the standard price of a Tier 6 Starship: 3,000 Zen each. These starships will participate in a Z-Store-Wide Ship Sale which will be active from February 17th, 2022 until February 22nd, 2022, reducing this price to 2,400 Zen each (20% Off!). **"
So I'm very happy they made this compromise for 12th Anniversary!
Hopefully they consider a 2 Starter Ship Bundle for 10th, and 11th in future! To make the reduced cost more moderate for the fuller bundle later on, to allow some to break into the acquisition of the Legendary Ships.
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I don't think these are Legendary, yet they have variations to Stations, Consoles, and Specializations and such. So it finds a nice balance and approach, so thank you!
Even though you forgo the Lockbox Ship, by purchasing the others separately.
The only thing I think its missing is at least a 7 turn rate and 4 engi /3 sci /4 Tac layout as it seems they want it to be a Tac/Sci cruiser. But then again I'm not a huge fan of temp ops even though the abilities are quite good, much better then pilot. But I play my galaxy as a tank so the temp ops + battlecruiser makes it non starter for me. The oddy however will make a great tank. Finally a Intel raider with cloak!! Just waiting for my mirror T'liss raider now, with full command seating.
Odyssey it is.
Cryptic should've:
Had the uniform variants accessible by all factions.
Had the Adamant with Improved Raider Flanking.
Had the Agony Quad Cannons useable along with Phaser Cannons since they're probably not.
Had a different gimmick on the Trailblazer other than another Agony Phaser Lance.
Also, just in case, make sure the 6x Ship Slots are useable across the account & not for only 1 character.
Replace the 12x, losing, Keys with another Agony Phaser space weapon crate which is actually useful.
Otherwise, I really dig the Cygnus & Adamant designs but all the ships look good.
The consoles & traits sound interesting but no way to tell if any good till reviews are read/watched.
The stats & seatings seem on par with some better than others but nothing too terrible.
While I'm not completely sold on this bundle it's nicely tempting.
I know still I'm very happy, cause I can still consider 2-4 Ships over time. First I'm considering the Voyager variation, and also the Starcruiser. I may later also consider the Andromedia, yet really like the cool Defiant twist introduced too.
I could see them both quads being usable, but who knows.
Trailer blazer is a 4/3 science ship so its a spearhead, those are one of the best there are, it also has command so I suspect it make a good torp platform as well.
It likely 1 character unlocks on the ship slots I hope they can open separately so you can transfer them.
Meh the keys are worth EC or free lobi though strieght up free lobi would be way better replacement.
Traits are not bad but not best in slot, the seating is mostly outstanding though lt temp ops on the adamant is just not useful *shrug*
MW lt, I think intel would have been better on the on the trail blazer.
So seems it will just require a bit more creativity, that's my only guess... ...yet I would have liked to see a bit more console variations more for sure!
It is what it is.
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True, not even the Ross have 4 tacs, it was a good oportunity to create something different, just 4 eng, 3 sci and 4 tacs..
If the reason were if the ship has intrinsic cloak and raider flanking, then that's massively outdated since now it'd make the ship less valuable in favor of non-nerved cloaking ships, after they let everyone have access to every ship. Why fly that when you can fly a Klingon or Romulan ship, or a lockbox ship or other legendary ship with similar functionality that isn't hit that hard?
The combo of raider flanking, dual spec with full intel features, possible intrinsic cloak... that all doesn't seem like it significantly outdoes other legendary ships enough to warrant dropping the weapon slots down that low. And we have the legendary Intrepid which does everything, and now this same bundle is adding another legendary Intrepid which drops the hangar in favor of an intrinsic lance weapon and swaps full miracle worker for full command while still being dual spec. I don't get it.