I think after watching today's 10F livestream I've talk myself out of buying the 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle, at least for now. It was rushed & they explained that but it wasn't the best presentation neither.
I was going to be some zen short anyways so unless Cryptic was going to coincide a zen buying bonus I wasn't looking forward to possibly buying more.
I still think all the ship designs look good with the Cygnus & Adamant looking the best imo but that's just cosmetics.
One thing that bothers me since I usually try to theme build is the ships come with the normal non-upgradable Agony Phasers, but unless someone still has that Agony Space Weapon Crate it'll be real difficult (real expensive) to outfit all these Terran ships with Agony Phaser space weapons since there hasn't been an injection supply in a long time.
The normal Phaser Quads & these new Agony Phaser Quads cannot be used together. Bummer. But they did state that these new Agony Phaser Quads are now part of the set.
Cryptic ignored the numerous times it was questioned/mentioned in chat about the Terran "battlecruiser" Cygnus only having 3 Tac consoles.
It seems all of these new skins will be kitbashable with their previous variants except with the Engle where for the complete skin option one will have to own the C-Store Engle as well.
Maybe after it releases & the reviews are given I'll change my mind.
I really think they need to add old weapon boxs to the dilithium store. I fairly sure even if they had answer for the Cygnus people wouldn't like it. I am honestly fine with its console slots even though I think they should have taken off one engi for a tactical.
I like your weapons inclusion to the dilithium store, I've always felt something like that would work & be a decent dilithium sink. Cryptic already has the precedent for it since they do it for the Advanced Phasers/Disruptors, Spiral Waves, Dewan Plasmas, Lethean Disruptors, & Andorian Phasers if you own one of those particular ships.
I know & am aware that most will get around the "only 3 Tac consoles" with Universals. I do it myself on ships, but it's just Cryptic's mind-set of a "Terran Battlecruiser" purposely limited just to limit it by Cryptic, to me it feels un-canon.
I don't know how many players will be similar to myself & would prefer to build using a Terran theme for their Terran ship(s) with Agony weapons, but Cryptic has just created a great divide since the only way to acquire Agony weapons are Infinity & Mirror Incursion LBs & in the STO that means inflated cost usually.
Instead of adding weapons to the dilithium store, they could just allow the weapons that come with the ship to be upgraded.
Why, after more than 10 years, are we still getting useless MK 10 white quality stuff with every ship we claim?
Becuase they want to keep the upgradeable gear in their Lockboxes so you buy keys. IF you're doing a 'canon' build and aren't concerned with topping the DPS charts with it, the 'infinite but not upgradeable' gear it comes with gives you both the 'proper look', as well as enough DPS to finish any storyline content in the game at the base level (IE - not easily at 'Advanced' or 'Elite' depending of course on your pilot skill and the particular content in question .)
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I'm loving the new ships so far, since the pack came out, but it sucks some of the consoles are broken.
The Agony Redistributor console from the Adamant doesn't apply it stats (such as the juicy +10 inertia rating). And the saucer separation console doesn't work on the Cygnus, despite how it should. (It plays the separation animation and then the saucer snaps back on instead of spawning a pet craft.)
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
The patch for these will probably be next week, though of those two Bort has only mentioned saucer sep on the Cygnus as being fixed internally.
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
Talking about game breaking things on the forum is kind of frowned upon. There was a console though that under the right conditions, was chaining for damage numbers in the tens of millions. That is all I am going to say about it.
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
Talking about game breaking things on the forum is kind of frowned upon. There was a console though that under the right conditions, was chaining for damage numbers in the tens of millions. That is all I am going to say about it.
Oh geez. That I had no idea about. o_o I was only aware of the ones that just... weren't working at all that I mentioned. Glad if that's fixed!
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
Talking about game breaking things on the forum is kind of frowned upon. There was a console though that under the right conditions, was chaining for damage numbers in the tens of millions. That is all I am going to say about it.
On top of that I've read that when confuse effects come into play it can do all that damage to players instead, effectively making you one shot your own teammates.
The console will be fixed as of the patch. I caved and bought it yesterday after seeing the Nacelle mismatch for the Adament. I wish we had the option to mismatch Nacelles. I would truly like to fly around in the fugliest kitbash in the Galaxy, at least on one of my characters.
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
Talking about game breaking things on the forum is kind of frowned upon. There was a console though that under the right conditions, was chaining for damage numbers in the tens of millions. That is all I am going to say about it.
On top of that I've read that when confuse effects come into play it can do all that damage to players instead, effectively making you one shot your own teammates.
That's the way to make friends in STO. :P
I really want the Mirror Intrepid interior from the mission. When will it be available to buy, Gearbox?
Yeah. Nothing in this bundle screams "Must Have" to me. That said, I have enough refined Dil to 'buy' it outright, and have put my offers up on the DilEx. If it converts to Zen by 3/3/22; I'll pick up the Bundle. If not, I won't.
My last bulk conversion of almost 8,000 ZEN from Dilithium, took about 10 days and went through a few days ago. I think you've got plenty of time.
I guess Zen is moving a bit more freely/quickly of late - my Refined Dil conversion to 11,625 Zen on the DilEx (across 4 Offers totaling that amount from multiple characters, all posted at around the same time) - which was the remainder I needed to convert to have enough for the 12th Anniversary Mirror Bundle - took a little under 8 days to completely fulfill. I didn't see it complete while I was online; I just know yesterday evening - which was the 1 week mark - nothing had converted; and I have the day off today, so I checked around 3 PM today - and it was completely fulfilled/converted to Zen, waiting to be withdrawn.
^^^
So, as long as the sales last over a week, and you put up your offers as soon as the price in posted - you still have time to get Zen off the Exchange. But it sure as heck ain't optimal...
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I wouldn't count on them doing anything except possibly adding them to Mudd's for 8k Zen like they did with the Corrosive Plasma weapons.
I would be fine with that too. I wouldn't buy them until they were at least half off, but that isn't a bad solution.
I like your weapons inclusion to the dilithium store, I've always felt something like that would work & be a decent dilithium sink. Cryptic already has the precedent for it since they do it for the Advanced Phasers/Disruptors, Spiral Waves, Dewan Plasmas, Lethean Disruptors, & Andorian Phasers if you own one of those particular ships.
I know & am aware that most will get around the "only 3 Tac consoles" with Universals. I do it myself on ships, but it's just Cryptic's mind-set of a "Terran Battlecruiser" purposely limited just to limit it by Cryptic, to me it feels un-canon.
I don't know how many players will be similar to myself & would prefer to build using a Terran theme for their Terran ship(s) with Agony weapons, but Cryptic has just created a great divide since the only way to acquire Agony weapons are Infinity & Mirror Incursion LBs & in the STO that means inflated cost usually.
Unfortunately this is what I foresee Cryptic doing as well, create a great divide then offer a cash grab to soothe it.
Darn Cryptic you have the technology so stop penalizing players & allow us the option to be more efficient via a choice.
Why, after more than 10 years, are we still getting useless MK 10 white quality stuff with every ship we claim?
Becuase they want to keep the upgradeable gear in their Lockboxes so you buy keys. IF you're doing a 'canon' build and aren't concerned with topping the DPS charts with it, the 'infinite but not upgradeable' gear it comes with gives you both the 'proper look', as well as enough DPS to finish any storyline content in the game at the base level (IE - not easily at 'Advanced' or 'Elite' depending of course on your pilot skill and the particular content in question .)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
The Agony Redistributor console from the Adamant doesn't apply it stats (such as the juicy +10 inertia rating). And the saucer separation console doesn't work on the Cygnus, despite how it should. (It plays the separation animation and then the saucer snaps back on instead of spawning a pet craft.)
Which console? The Cygnus still can't use saucer separation, and the Agony Redistributor's stats still aren't applying, even after the patch. I checked both.
The patch for these will probably be next week, though of those two Bort has only mentioned saucer sep on the Cygnus as being fixed internally.
Talking about game breaking things on the forum is kind of frowned upon. There was a console though that under the right conditions, was chaining for damage numbers in the tens of millions. That is all I am going to say about it.
Oh geez. That I had no idea about. o_o I was only aware of the ones that just... weren't working at all that I mentioned. Glad if that's fixed!
I hope all the bugs get fixed for those that bought the bundle. And I hope they apply those fixes BEFORE they release the bundle on console.
On top of that I've read that when confuse effects come into play it can do all that damage to players instead, effectively making you one shot your own teammates.
I really want the Mirror Intrepid interior from the mission. When will it be available to buy, Gearbox?
I guess Zen is moving a bit more freely/quickly of late - my Refined Dil conversion to 11,625 Zen on the DilEx (across 4 Offers totaling that amount from multiple characters, all posted at around the same time) - which was the remainder I needed to convert to have enough for the 12th Anniversary Mirror Bundle - took a little under 8 days to completely fulfill. I didn't see it complete while I was online; I just know yesterday evening - which was the 1 week mark - nothing had converted; and I have the day off today, so I checked around 3 PM today - and it was completely fulfilled/converted to Zen, waiting to be withdrawn.
^^^
So, as long as the sales last over a week, and you put up your offers as soon as the price in posted - you still have time to get Zen off the Exchange. But it sure as heck ain't optimal...
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."