As I already have the regular versions of most of these ships, I'm probably not buying them. Not even the Mirror Engle. I looked up its trait after people mentioned it, but as I already have more traits than I can use, I won't be buying a ship just for its trait.
I would think they would have to be Fleet Grade. It makes no sense that Prime Universe Fleets would be creating and selling Mirror Ships.
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Usually new ships are not purchasable with the T6 Free Ship Coupons. There was an exception, but I wouldn't expect the T6 Coupons to be usable on any of these ships. At least not for at least 6 months.
It worked fine for my Appalachia, which is one of the newest ships in the store.
Usually new ships are not purchasable with the T6 Free Ship Coupons. There was an exception, but I wouldn't expect the T6 Coupons to be usable on any of these ships. At least not for at least 6 months.
Who knows? Maybe they can be used.
In the end it doesn't really matter. If players use their free tokens on one of the new ships, they cannot use it on another one they might otherwise have bought with it.
It doesn't really cost Cryptic any more money if they decide to make the new ships purchasable with a coupon immediately.
I hope so! I haven't spent my token yet so I would gladly use it on the Mirror Intrepid. It just wouldn't sur4prise me if those tokens would not be usable for these new ships. The ability to buy some of the ships from the bundle separately is definitely a good thing though and personally, I think is a step in the right direction. Regardless whether or not I can use my T6 Ship Coupon for the Mirror Intrepid, I am going to get it anyway.
Usually new ships are not purchasable with the T6 Free Ship Coupons. There was an exception, but I wouldn't expect the T6 Coupons to be usable on any of these ships. At least not for at least 6 months.
Who knows? Maybe they can be used.
In the end it doesn't really matter. If players use their free tokens on one of the new ships, they cannot use it on another one they might otherwise have bought with it.
It doesn't really cost Cryptic any more money if they decide to make the new ships purchasable with a coupon immediately.
I hope so! I haven't spent my token yet so I would gladly use it on the Mirror Intrepid. It just wouldn't sur4prise me if those tokens would not be usable for these new ships. The ability to buy some of the ships from the bundle separately is definitely a good thing though and personally, I think is a step in the right direction. Regardless whether or not I can use my T6 Ship Coupon for the Mirror Intrepid, I am going to get it anyway.
If you still have the token from the anniversary that is in a box, that one has no restrictions, you should be able to buy the ship you want, i use it to get the T6 nova, so i know it works.
There are two different kinds of 100% coupons, though there's no *visible* difference, but the two different kinds won't stack.
The two I have do have one minor difference, the description for one says it can be traded but cannot be listed on the exchange, while the description on the other says it cannot be traded or listed on the exchange. I'm assuming the one that can be traded is the unrestricted type while the account bound one is not, but I already own all of the newest ships so I can't verify that.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me Cryptic has thrown out the long standing but never officially acknowledged rule that regular C-store ships are rarely full spec, and never multi spec.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me Cryptic has thrown out the long standing but never officially acknowledged rule that regular C-store ships are rarely full spec, and never multi spec.
Well it was long overdue...
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Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me Cryptic has thrown out the long standing but never officially acknowledged rule that regular C-store ships are rarely full spec, and never multi spec.
Correct. Or rather for those C-Store ships that they are not offering a Fleet Variant, the C-Store version comes out of the box at Fleet quality. For example the Appalachia has 2 different spec seats. What we had not seen until these is a C-store ship that is Full Spec with a second type spec seat. For example the Appalachia is a Lt Cmdr Command and a Lt Intel. Not a full Commander Spec seat. Whereas the new Trailblaze has a Commander Command Seat and a Lt Miracle Worker. So it gets the full Command Spec abilities.
The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
I already have too many ships in general. And with the exception of the Mirror Engle, I own all of them as I bought the Legendary bundle.
Visually the ships are ok, but that isn't enough for me to buy ships I already own again. I can only fly one ship at a time anyway, so flying these would likely mean that other (expensive) ships are left to collect dust.
The stats are also not very impressive. For some ships they're nice changes, for others not so. Command specialisation on a sci ship for example isn't the most useful one I can think of. The Defiant sacrifices an aft weapon slot for raider flanking - but on the toons where I care about this, I already have it through a console or the intelligence tree.
The cruisers and especially the Odyssey are perhaps the most interesting ones, but even these don't seem much better than the ones from the Legendary pack. If I want to use a MW cruiser, I can use the Assault one from the 10th anniversary pack.
Maybe, just maybe I'll get it for the title (I have a Voth inquisitor) and the Engle as I had considered getting the Earhart before. I'll have to see the ships in the game first, maybe that'll convince me.
If this is typical of how Gearbox wants to entice me into spending more money. I am sold on the bundle for the sale price. Thinking it was going to be priced higher, I was just going to buy one or two ships at the most. Now I am going to be buying the bundle!
It's definitely an improvement that you can buy the ships in the bundle individually, I think.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
It's definitely an improvement that you can buy the ships in the bundle individually, I think.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
All of the new Mirror ships were made specifically for the Terran enemy groups to use, Cryptic's ability to sell them to us is just a secondary bonus. The Bozeman (Reliant), Cabot (Shran), and Kuumaarke's Mirror Somerville WILL all be made available at some point but for whatever reason they decided they weren't the right ships for this particular bundle (the Bozeman in particular may have been delayed due to two other Miranda variants being released in 2021). It's also possible that one or two of these could become event ships for the Spring and Fall content releases like the Mirror Gagarin was.
With all the specs now released i am at "Interesting".
4 Terran ships with an agony phaser lance, kind of predicable consoles, aggressive boff layout and Terran visuals.
Contrary to the 10th bundle which i almost grind down with game play (not completely but close enough) this bundle is simply not in a "i want" category.
It's a crying shame they did not include some Terran Nova variant. The design from which the Nova originated was first proposed for the defiant. Would have been awesome had the bundle gone down that route.
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The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
Thats the twist!.. they have been there all along!! under our noses!
The Galaxy was the main draw for me but after reading the blog? No thanks. No updated red livery for the actual Galaxy class unlike every other ship. The boff layout, while different isn't really what I wanted either. Oh well. The Lexington trait does look really strong so I might get that separately eventually.
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I admit I'm surprised, I'd consider some of these ships if they offered a Starter Bundle with 2, might also get some other Starter Bundles from 10th or 11th with just 2 Ships. The cost though it's a bit higher than I expected perhaps because of the add-on included in the larger sale.
Still I think this is nicer way, to offer players a choice for 12th Anniversary!
"As an alternative to the great deal that this Bundle offers, the four new Terran starships will also be made available as separate purchases on the Z-Store, at the standard price of a Tier 6 Starship: 3,000 Zen each. These starships will participate in a Z-Store-Wide Ship Sale which will be active from February 17th, 2022 until February 22nd, 2022, reducing this price to 2,400 Zen each (20% Off!). **"
So I'm very happy they made this compromise for 12th Anniversary!
Hopefully they consider a 2 Starter Ship Bundle for 10th, and 11th in future! To make the reduced cost more moderate for the fuller bundle later on, to allow some to break into the acquisition of the Legendary Ships.
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I don't think these are Legendary, yet they have variations to Stations, Consoles, and Specializations and such. So it finds a nice balance and approach, so thank you!
Even though you forgo the Lockbox Ship, by purchasing the others separately.
The Galaxy was the main draw for me but after reading the blog? No thanks. No updated red livery for the actual Galaxy class unlike every other ship. The boff layout, while different isn't really what I wanted either. Oh well. The Lexington trait does look really strong so I might get that separately eventually.
The only thing I think its missing is at least a 7 turn rate and 4 engi /3 sci /4 Tac layout as it seems they want it to be a Tac/Sci cruiser. But then again I'm not a huge fan of temp ops even though the abilities are quite good, much better then pilot. But I play my galaxy as a tank so the temp ops + battlecruiser makes it non starter for me. The oddy however will make a great tank. Finally a Intel raider with cloak!! Just waiting for my mirror T'liss raider now, with full command seating.
I concerned we may have missed the sale, from the blog The 12th Anniversary Terran Bundle will have a base price of 17,500 Zen, but will be offered at the Discounted Price of 13,125 (25% Off!) until March 3rd, 2002. **
The intro bundle discount use to be 35% but since the Agile Bundle with the Nova, it has been 25% which is kinda annoying. I'm debating on buying the bundle now or wait for a 35% bundle sale. I will probably just buy it now and eat the 10% but it is still annoying not getting the 35% we use to.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I hope so! I haven't spent my token yet so I would gladly use it on the Mirror Intrepid. It just wouldn't sur4prise me if those tokens would not be usable for these new ships. The ability to buy some of the ships from the bundle separately is definitely a good thing though and personally, I think is a step in the right direction. Regardless whether or not I can use my T6 Ship Coupon for the Mirror Intrepid, I am going to get it anyway.
If you still have the token from the anniversary that is in a box, that one has no restrictions, you should be able to buy the ship you want, i use it to get the T6 nova, so i know it works.
The two I have do have one minor difference, the description for one says it can be traded but cannot be listed on the exchange, while the description on the other says it cannot be traded or listed on the exchange. I'm assuming the one that can be traded is the unrestricted type while the account bound one is not, but I already own all of the newest ships so I can't verify that.
Yeah, neither as expensive as i thouht.. i was hoping that the reliant variant would be released but oh, well
Well it was long overdue...
BUT I WILL NOT BUY THIS BUNDLE JUST FOR THAT
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good thing you can buy it individually.
Damn, it looks like we're twenty years too late for the intro sale
I already have too many ships in general. And with the exception of the Mirror Engle, I own all of them as I bought the Legendary bundle.
Visually the ships are ok, but that isn't enough for me to buy ships I already own again. I can only fly one ship at a time anyway, so flying these would likely mean that other (expensive) ships are left to collect dust.
The stats are also not very impressive. For some ships they're nice changes, for others not so. Command specialisation on a sci ship for example isn't the most useful one I can think of. The Defiant sacrifices an aft weapon slot for raider flanking - but on the toons where I care about this, I already have it through a console or the intelligence tree.
The cruisers and especially the Odyssey are perhaps the most interesting ones, but even these don't seem much better than the ones from the Legendary pack. If I want to use a MW cruiser, I can use the Assault one from the 10th anniversary pack.
Maybe, just maybe I'll get it for the title (I have a Voth inquisitor) and the Engle as I had considered getting the Earhart before. I'll have to see the ships in the game first, maybe that'll convince me.
However, I'm thoroughly confused on what happened to the Mirror Shran and Mirror Reliant. They announced them in the same "Remastering 25th Century Starships" blog post they revealed the Cygnus and Trailblazer, yet they're completely absent from the bundle in favor of two completely different ships? I don't get what's going on there. They wouldn't have made them and made such a hubbub about them if they didn't plan to make them available, but they're not in the anniversary bundle. Did they end up working on the Adamant first to leave the Shran and Reliant for later? Is that part of why you can buy the bundle ships individually? I have no idea. I'm excited for the ships that *are* there (especially the Adamant as a wholly new and very awesome looking Defiant variant), but worried for the status of the lost two.
All of the new Mirror ships were made specifically for the Terran enemy groups to use, Cryptic's ability to sell them to us is just a secondary bonus. The Bozeman (Reliant), Cabot (Shran), and Kuumaarke's Mirror Somerville WILL all be made available at some point but for whatever reason they decided they weren't the right ships for this particular bundle (the Bozeman in particular may have been delayed due to two other Miranda variants being released in 2021). It's also possible that one or two of these could become event ships for the Spring and Fall content releases like the Mirror Gagarin was.
4 Terran ships with an agony phaser lance, kind of predicable consoles, aggressive boff layout and Terran visuals.
Contrary to the 10th bundle which i almost grind down with game play (not completely but close enough) this bundle is simply not in a "i want" category.
It's a crying shame they did not include some Terran Nova variant. The design from which the Nova originated was first proposed for the defiant. Would have been awesome had the bundle gone down that route.
I figure the mirror Somerville, at the very least, would fit into that.
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Thats the twist!.. they have been there all along!! under our noses!
Likely another mirror 2 ship bundle later this year, when they release the next mirror episode with who ever the Terran emperor is.
Still I think this is nicer way, to offer players a choice for 12th Anniversary!
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507853-the-12th-anniversary-terran-bundle!
"As an alternative to the great deal that this Bundle offers, the four new Terran starships will also be made available as separate purchases on the Z-Store, at the standard price of a Tier 6 Starship: 3,000 Zen each. These starships will participate in a Z-Store-Wide Ship Sale which will be active from February 17th, 2022 until February 22nd, 2022, reducing this price to 2,400 Zen each (20% Off!). **"
So I'm very happy they made this compromise for 12th Anniversary!
Hopefully they consider a 2 Starter Ship Bundle for 10th, and 11th in future! To make the reduced cost more moderate for the fuller bundle later on, to allow some to break into the acquisition of the Legendary Ships.
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I don't think these are Legendary, yet they have variations to Stations, Consoles, and Specializations and such. So it finds a nice balance and approach, so thank you!
Even though you forgo the Lockbox Ship, by purchasing the others separately.
The only thing I think its missing is at least a 7 turn rate and 4 engi /3 sci /4 Tac layout as it seems they want it to be a Tac/Sci cruiser. But then again I'm not a huge fan of temp ops even though the abilities are quite good, much better then pilot. But I play my galaxy as a tank so the temp ops + battlecruiser makes it non starter for me. The oddy however will make a great tank. Finally a Intel raider with cloak!! Just waiting for my mirror T'liss raider now, with full command seating.
Odyssey it is.
Cryptic should've:
Had the uniform variants accessible by all factions.
Had the Adamant with Improved Raider Flanking.
Had the Agony Quad Cannons useable along with Phaser Cannons since they're probably not.
Had a different gimmick on the Trailblazer other than another Agony Phaser Lance.
Also, just in case, make sure the 6x Ship Slots are useable across the account & not for only 1 character.
Replace the 12x, losing, Keys with another Agony Phaser space weapon crate which is actually useful.
Otherwise, I really dig the Cygnus & Adamant designs but all the ships look good.
The consoles & traits sound interesting but no way to tell if any good till reviews are read/watched.
The stats & seatings seem on par with some better than others but nothing too terrible.
While I'm not completely sold on this bundle it's nicely tempting.