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thegrandnagus1
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Before you read the blog post, be warned that the image has big spoilers:
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507363-shadow's-advance-is-live!
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507363-shadow's-advance-is-live!
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Well, it's not my cup of tea, but it will make some people happy, and one should not examine the dentition of complimentary equines.
Perhaps I'm being dense, but what is the spoiler?
No clue what you're talking about. I see only three characters, and we've seen them all before.
My only complaint is that the patch server is taking bloody FOREVER to download the tribbling patch.
"There's No Way Like Poway!"
Real Join Date: October 2010
I would definitely recommend investing in some glasses. Despite the cost, you will enjoy the game a lot more when you can actually see it
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Ah, OK, I was not making the distinction between "mentioned" and "in-game".
It still doesn't seem like much of a spoiler to me. I think you're splitting hairs.
> I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?
That would be the opposite of prime universe Janeway who had such lines as "time to take out the trash; fire photon torpedoes".
But now... we got one of the Big 5 Captains. Many believed that they were out of STO's budget.
Glad we get to see at least one of the Big 5 in game...before the world ends. lol
Truth to tell, Harry Kim's life under kindly grandmotherly Mirror Janeway is probably much much worse. Not that Harry Kim's life could ever be viewed as "better" in any possible reality. I look forward to the day Grand High Admiral of the Fleet His Eminence Nog gets to hand Ensign Kim his retirement papers. Or simply has him buried alive with Janeway like an Egyptian Funeral relic.
Harry Kim is likely the Captain's Man for Mirror Janeway. Poor Harry. *shudders*
Makes you think how this will be tied in. Given the history of the actor it is unlikely that Will Decker is incoming,
Oh Gods! I've figured out the plot! Harry is actually the Mirror Emperor! It would explain so much. Including why he wants the "Object" from Jupiter Station. /shudder.
y'know this theory somehow gets much worse if we believe the longstanding fan rumor that Wesley Crusher is the Emperor. (at least it's canon that the "object" is washable.)
And speaking of things that should be used sparingly… the ROBOT VOICE. Can we put this trick back in the ol’ developers toolchest. Preferably bottom drawer, way in the back, behind some rotting lunch bags, never to be spoken of or by again?
Combine this with improved deep fakes and you can welcome the true post-truth dystopian era.
That said, I'm pretty sure the voice of that character wasn't a procedural voice anyway. Way too clean and natural.
As for the mission, I enjoyed it, most of it is great, if simple gameplay-wise and there are some serious implications regarding both the reveal and Mirror!Janeway's backstory.
Now, to go and see how they retroactively added Janeway in the Delta Quadrant arc.
Would have been a nice idea to put DQ missions in the list of things that give anniversary tokens. You know, as encouragement to see improved stuff.
EDIT: OK, so she just replaces Burgess so far (and the texts haven't been fully updated to her new dialogue, of course).
But once again, seeing such great, detailed environments that will not be accessible for players via a bridge or a HUB, is always so disappointing, and we still haven't seen the 2411 ship interior Nick was working on.
But well, it's obvious why they chose it and you can always pretend they once managed to create good procedural voice systems like we're close to, before it ticked off the wrong people in charge and the tech was banned and destroyed while anyone using it was executed.
THIS ^^^
That's why they did that. And also the title instead of a name or even a rank. And I'm now dying to know what role that title "Inquisitor" is for. Emperor's personal operative/hit-man? Or something more formal and structured? Enforcer of ideological purity or something?
They do mention the spoon incident and how it NEARLY kills them, though, but that's still not an explanation.
Second, and more important (to me) the episode did NOT increase progress to the event. a bug thread is over in that section
Admiral Leeta is the Mirror Universe Leeta.
Now why would they ask an actor they could barely afford to use at all to do dialog that anyone (someone much cheaper) could do? They do have to use a SAG actor now, I think. Contracts are contracts. But there must be qualified people who would cost less and don't need to be recognizable.
Why would the Terrans drag someone who was almost killed by a spoon from 2 centuries ago (and judging by the dialogue, they didn't bring them from a time before getting spooned by Killy, since they do mention it)?
I get that the meta reason is "so all factions have their mirror universe counterpart", but that's still stretching the suspension of disbelief without some kind of explanation.
Heck, they could have even done so without a clear explanation and just some lampshading like Killy going "By the way, are you finally gonna tell me how you survived my spoon in your throat and managed to follow me 2 centuries in the future and become an Inquisitor?" and the character replying something like "Are you dying right now? No? Then you'll get nothing from me about that until you start doing so."
Also, of note: The voice of your Mirror counterpart is different depending on the sex of your character. Same with the available abilities, being variants of existing abilities, depending on your profession.
Played with an female Engi KDF and a female Engi DSC and got the same voice and Ambush Turrets and Orbital Beam as abilities.
Sci JH got a voice I highly suspect is a distorted J.G. Hertzler, with a Chain of Agony (modified Chain Conduit Capacitor from the Kelvin Divergence LB) and Agonizer Brain Scramble.
Female Tac Rom got a Weaponized Dark Matter and Overwhelming Fire Support (6(!) very OP exocomps).
Also, the TOS captain's counterpart has the same dialogue variant as the DSC one.
First this is Terran tech and unless it's meant to kill or hurt someone it's just not a priority to the Terrans, also it could be seen as punishment for failure, sure they'd have the tech to make you sound natural but they won't do it so that you're reminded of your failure every time you open your mouth to speak.
Out of universe it also side steps the issue of players having a head canon voice for their character as this isn't the natural voice of your character but rather the voice of that voice box.
She got promoted to Admiral during the storyline of STO so her rank is correct for her Mirror Starfleet rank.