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Shadow's Advance is Live (SPOILERS)

thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
edited March 2022 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Before you read the blog post, be warned that the image has big spoilers:

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507363-shadow's-advance-is-live!
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  • ozwynozwyn Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    Is it ok to be really happy to have Janeway in STO ? Its a nice addition to the cast
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited January 2022
    Oh, a carrier.
    Well, it's not my cup of tea, but it will make some people happy, and one should not examine the dentition of complimentary equines.
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    Before you read the blog post, be warned that the image has big spoilers:

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507363-shadow's-advance-is-live!

    The in-game loading screen also has such spoilers.

    Perhaps I'm being dense, but what is the spoiler?
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited January 2022
    westmetals wrote: »
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    thegrandnagus1 wrote: »
    Before you read the blog post, be warned that the image has big spoilers:

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11507363-shadow's-advance-is-live!

    The in-game loading screen also has such spoilers.

    Perhaps I'm being dense, but what is the spoiler?

    The third voice actor that they hadn't announced. A very well known (series-canon) character not previously seen in-game.

    Very obvious image of the character in both places.

    No clue what you're talking about. I see only three characters, and we've seen them all before.

    My only complaint is that the patch server is taking bloody FOREVER to download the tribbling patch.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    Finally! We have one of the (show-carrying) captains in STO!
  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    I see only three characters, and we've seen them all before.
    Janeway has never been in-game before. Mentioned, but not in-game.
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    I see only three characters, and we've seen them all before.

    I would definitely recommend investing in some glasses. Despite the cost, you will enjoy the game a lot more when you can actually see it :D
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    joshmaul wrote: »
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    I see only three characters, and we've seen them all before.
    Janeway has never been in-game before. Mentioned, but not in-game.

    Ah, OK, I was not making the distinction between "mentioned" and "in-game".
    It still doesn't seem like much of a spoiler to me. I think you're splitting hairs.
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  • faelon#8433 faelon
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    I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?
  • garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    > @faelon#8433 said:
    > I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?

    That would be the opposite of prime universe Janeway who had such lines as "time to take out the trash; fire photon torpedoes".
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,558 Community Moderator
    Before this we only had one on screen Captain, with Jason Issacs reprising the role of Captain Lorca. Spock is a bit of a gray area because we don't see him as Captain Spock in his WoK uniform, but as Commander Spock in the TOS uniform. Scotty technically counts but he was never the Captain of a starship. He just held the rank of Captain. (Reason he technically counts is he wore his engie vest even as a Captain).
    But now... we got one of the Big 5 Captains. Many believed that they were out of STO's budget.
    • Kirk - Previous falling out with some Cryptic Devs. No interest.
    • Picard - Certainly out of budget unless a deal can be made.
    • Sisko - No interest as far as ANYONE knows.
    • Janeway - Now in STO
    • Archer - no real way to bring in at this time.
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  • megas#5499 megas
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    rattler2 wrote: »
    Before this we only had one on screen Captain, with Jason Issacs reprising the role of Captain Lorca. Spock is a bit of a gray area because we don't see him as Captain Spock in his WoK uniform, but as Commander Spock in the TOS uniform. Scotty technically counts but he was never the Captain of a starship. He just held the rank of Captain. (Reason he technically counts is he wore his engie vest even as a Captain).
    But now... we got one of the Big 5 Captains. Many believed that they were out of STO's budget.
    • Kirk - Previous falling out with some Cryptic Devs. No interest.
    • Picard - Certainly out of budget unless a deal can be made.
    • Sisko - No interest as far as ANYONE knows.
    • Janeway - Now in STO
    • Archer - no real way to bring in at this time.

    Glad we get to see at least one of the Big 5 in game...before the world ends. lol
  • faelon#8433 faelon
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    garaffe wrote: »
    > @faelon#8433 said:
    > I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?

    That would be the opposite of prime universe Janeway who had such lines as "time to take out the trash; fire photon torpedoes".

    Truth to tell, Harry Kim's life under kindly grandmotherly Mirror Janeway is probably much much worse. Not that Harry Kim's life could ever be viewed as "better" in any possible reality. I look forward to the day Grand High Admiral of the Fleet His Eminence Nog gets to hand Ensign Kim his retirement papers. Or simply has him buried alive with Janeway like an Egyptian Funeral relic.
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    faelon#8433 wrote: »
    garaffe wrote: »
    > @faelon#8433 said:
    > I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?

    That would be the opposite of prime universe Janeway who had such lines as "time to take out the trash; fire photon torpedoes".

    Truth to tell, Harry Kim's life under kindly grandmotherly Mirror Janeway is probably much much worse. Not that Harry Kim's life could ever be viewed as "better" in any possible reality. I look forward to the day Grand High Admiral of the Fleet His Eminence Nog gets to hand Ensign Kim his retirement papers. Or simply has him buried alive with Janeway like an Egyptian Funeral relic.

    Harry Kim is likely the Captain's Man for Mirror Janeway. Poor Harry. *shudders*

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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,481 Arc User
    Interesting emperor's prize.
    Makes you think how this will be tied in. Given the history of the actor it is unlikely that Will Decker is incoming,
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  • faelon#8433 faelon
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    psiameese wrote: »
    faelon#8433 wrote: »
    garaffe wrote: »
    > @faelon#8433 said:
    > I assume Mirror Janeway will be a warm kindly grandmotherly type who drinks Herbal Tea and keeps Cats and Parakeets?

    That would be the opposite of prime universe Janeway who had such lines as "time to take out the trash; fire photon torpedoes".

    Truth to tell, Harry Kim's life under kindly grandmotherly Mirror Janeway is probably much much worse. Not that Harry Kim's life could ever be viewed as "better" in any possible reality. I look forward to the day Grand High Admiral of the Fleet His Eminence Nog gets to hand Ensign Kim his retirement papers. Or simply has him buried alive with Janeway like an Egyptian Funeral relic.

    Harry Kim is likely the Captain's Man for Mirror Janeway. Poor Harry. *shudders*

    Oh Gods! I've figured out the plot! Harry is actually the Mirror Emperor! It would explain so much. Including why he wants the "Object" from Jupiter Station. /shudder.

    y'know this theory somehow gets much worse if we believe the longstanding fan rumor that Wesley Crusher is the Emperor. (at least it's canon that the "object" is washable.)

  • faelon#8433 faelon
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    Ok Cryptic some honest feedback. Overall the new Mission is great. The environment is fantastic. It’s fun even for a “not your character/ship” mission. Although as always, it would have been more fun with our own characters and abilities. Which also adds replay value as each character and ship is a different experience. This is the core flaw in missions like this or the accursed Knowledge is Power. There is no ability for the players to change it up with a different character, different build/gear, etc. It’s a great mission. But it’s a static mission. It will forever be exactly the same experience for the player. Sometimes it works well, such as Quark’s Lucky Seven, sometimes not, as in KiP. But because of how static it is, it’s a dynamic that should be used sparingly.

    And speaking of things that should be used sparingly… the ROBOT VOICE. Can we put this trick back in the ol’ developers toolchest. Preferably bottom drawer, way in the back, behind some rotting lunch bags, never to be spoken of or by again?
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited January 2022
    corinthalas wrote: »
    Here's hoping that procedural voices take some major steps forward over the next couple years, such that you can feed a 'speech engine' any line of text and have it spoken in just about anybody's voice (that you have the license to use) and performance style. Sir Patrick Stewart riffing it Kirk style!
    Oh, the naivete. XP

    Combine this with improved deep fakes and you can welcome the true post-truth dystopian era.

    That said, I'm pretty sure the voice of that character wasn't a procedural voice anyway. Way too clean and natural.


    As for the mission, I enjoyed it, most of it is great, if simple gameplay-wise and there are some serious implications regarding both the reveal and Mirror!Janeway's backstory.

    Now, to go and see how they retroactively added Janeway in the Delta Quadrant arc.
    Would have been a nice idea to put DQ missions in the list of things that give anniversary tokens. You know, as encouragement to see improved stuff.
    EDIT: OK, so she just replaces Burgess so far (and the texts haven't been fully updated to her new dialogue, of course).

    But once again, seeing such great, detailed environments that will not be accessible for players via a bridge or a HUB, is always so disappointing, and we still haven't seen the 2411 ship interior Nick was working on.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,457 Arc User
    faelon#8433 wrote: »
    And speaking of things that should be used sparingly… the ROBOT VOICE. Can we put this trick back in the ol’ developers toolchest. Preferably bottom drawer, way in the back, behind some rotting lunch bags, never to be spoken of or by again?
    Personally, I thought it was a clever way to take care of the problem of voicing a character who could be of any playable species and gender. Too many options for an automated system to realistically handle.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    My only issue with the robotic voice is that you'd expect in the 25th century, they'd have solved that to make it sound natural and not robotic.

    But well, it's obvious why they chose it and you can always pretend they once managed to create good procedural voice systems like we're close to, before it ticked off the wrong people in charge and the tech was banned and destroyed while anyone using it was executed.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Admiral Leta? Thought she married Rom and is wife of the current grand negus? Or you mean Mirror Leta... didnt know your rank transfers over from the Mirror Universe... she is a civilian at best... criminal/terrorist at worse. Unless the Fed just accepted her and give her the rank... which is BS.
  • stolokstolok Member Posts: 152 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    faelon#8433 wrote: »
    And speaking of things that should be used sparingly… the ROBOT VOICE. Can we put this trick back in the ol’ developers toolchest. Preferably bottom drawer, way in the back, behind some rotting lunch bags, never to be spoken of or by again?
    Personally, I thought it was a clever way to take care of the problem of voicing a character who could be of any playable species and gender. Too many options for an automated system to realistically handle.

    THIS ^^^

    That's why they did that. And also the title instead of a name or even a rank. And I'm now dying to know what role that title "Inquisitor" is for. Emperor's personal operative/hit-man? Or something more formal and structured? Enforcer of ideological purity or something?
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