Only just came back to the game after a long sabbatical and can honestly say Perfect World has not learned from the mistakes with this legendary bundle seriously may have considered getting the bundle if there was proper decent ships there but no d7 seriously. And the price your asking for a few ships and a lot of trash is ridiculous.
Well done on making one of the worst bundles ever I will keep my cash and hope without holding my breath that you will allow us to buy the ships seperately unlike the FED legendary bundle you released last year.
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Bought the 10 ship bundle wont be buying this. It's far too expensive and besides what fed ships can you add to this now the true legendary ones have been done.
I think - in their mind - the selling point is the "unlock to fly all ships" for the entire account which you can buy just recently for 2k zen (atm 1k because of the special)
The fact that this is their newest idea to take away EC-boxes for the mainly KDF faction and then hide the unlock behind a Zen paywall is... i dont have words for it. So now to offer a unlock for the account is "amazing" right?
This is just weird to me. It seems like they could have just taken a handful of Klingon ships, used the stats for their Fed Legendary counterparts, and sell it. Maybe not all 10, but at least 5. Like the Legendary D7 would basically be a Legendary Miracle Worker Light Cruiser, the Kor/B'Rel would like the Legendary Defiant, etc, etc.
This actually seems like it was more work, but less appealing. The Legendary B'Rel doesn't seem as good as the anniversary raider.
I would have dropped $150 for a D7 and a halfway decent B'Rel (since I bought the original basically for the TOS Constitution and a defiant that isn't terrible), but this.
And I probably would have spent $50 for a Legendary Excelsior
But this just seems like a cash grab and one that isn't very appealing, at that.
So the 10-ship-pack is 260$, and this 4-ship-pack is 250$? This is a reasonable price policy
I'm sorry for the people falling for this. And the ship selection is also weird: B'Rel, K'Vort (the left ship, it's a bigger B'Rel) so those are are basically the same model and two fed ships? All the extra clutter is garbage and they know that, "unlock fly all ships for the account" is something you can do playing your KDF character to max in a day for free or with a token for 20$ and the random keys and boxes are laughable.
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"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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I think - in their mind - the selling point is the "unlock to fly all ships" for the entire account which you can buy just recently for 2k zen (atm 1k because of the special)
The fact that this is their newest idea to take away EC-boxes for the mainly KDF faction and then hide the unlock behind a Zen paywall is... i dont have words for it. So now to offer a unlock for the account is "amazing" right?
As easily as a player can level-up a character in STO partnered with the timing that many are or have recently created a KDF character during this event the "unlock to fly all ships" is not worth much value. As you stated there's the current sale to pay 1k zen to unlock it immediately or a level 65 KDF character unlocks the ability.
I'm predicting many, too many, will buy it. Cryptic will state that it's been a great selling Legendary Bundle & players love it so Cryptic will continue the piece-meal selling approach.
Well...
1. Not-legendary B'rel
2. Unreal price
3. Year of Kling-off
1. What is legendary about this B'rel? Well, nothing. I understand that pilot mechanic was asked for this ship but just because it fits her profile. This is one ship in this game that doesn't really benefit from pilot mech. She just doesn't need it. It's fine to have it but it doesn't make this ship better. Beside that this stats doesn't seem to better than C-store/fleet Kor. 5 tac consoles doesn't make B'rel better, it makes it worse because of 1 sci console less. Especially in X-upgrades era. B'rel needs 5/1 layout, this is obvious for everybody that fly this ship. Legen B'rel is in fact worse than fleet Kor (2000 zen + fleet module).
2. 4 legendary + 2 T6 ships for 20000 zen? Gamma pack has 7 T6, 3 T5 and 2 playable races for 15k, 12-10k on sale! OG Legendary Pack has 10 ships for roughly this same promo price and there were 4 non-C-store ships! All that other TRIBBLE is really not welcomed, sure I can use it but I don't need to.
3. Everything was said already about that. Just for You Cryptic to know how insulting this is. Again - understand this pls.: INSULTING. One, ONE ship for KDF for year now. Not-KDF legendary pack with this quality and price? Cross-faction ships - I understand motivation behind this but I think it will have opposite effect - no reason for players to play KDF anymore. And yet You could make 5 or even 4 ships KDF Legen pack and everybody would be happy. 2 new skins and copy-paste Connie and Sove stats.
I'm 90% no for this pack. Other KDF ship and Excelsior would have god-like stats for me to consider buying it. Very disappointing Cryptic, both in stats of B'rel and overall attitude towards players/Your customers.
oh okay, i am only interested in the Bird of Prey so i asked
The BOP is already in game only the K'Vort would be "new" because the model should be bigger than the original BOP.
Still the price it to high for 2 new ships. The Fed ships are also already in game and can be purchased. If you have the 10 ship pack as FED you already have the Odyssey and the Galaxy as legendary ships.
So tell me again what is the reason for players to buy so much money for this?
Well...
1. Not-legendary B'rel
2. Unreal price
3. Year of Kling-off
1. What is legendary about this B'rel? Well, nothing. I understand that pilot mechanic was asked for this ship but just because it fits her profile. This is one ship in this game that doesn't really benefit from pilot mech. She just doesn't need it. It's fine to have it but it doesn't make this ship better. Beside that this stats doesn't seem to better than C-store/fleet Kor. 5 tac consoles doesn't make B'rel better, it makes it worse because of 1 sci console less. Especially in X-upgrades era. B'rel needs 5/1 layout, this is obvious for everybody that fly this ship. Legen B'rel is in fact worse than fleet Kor (2000 zen + fleet module).
2. 4 legendary + 2 T6 ships for 20000 zen? Gamma pack has 7 T6, 3 T5 and 2 playable races for 15k, 12-10k on sale! OG Legendary Pack has 10 ships for roughly this same promo price and there were 4 non-C-store ships! All that other TRIBBLE is really not welcomed, sure I can use it but I don't need to.
3. Everything was said already about that. Just for You Cryptic to know how insulting this is. Again - understand this pls.: INSULTING. One, ONE ship for KDF for year now. Not-KDF legendary pack with this quality and price? Cross-faction ships - I understand motivation behind this but I think it will have opposite effect - no reason for players to play KDF anymore. And yet You could make 5 or even 4 ships KDF Legen pack and everybody would be happy. 2 new skins and copy-paste Connie and Sove stats.
I'm 90% no for this pack. Other KDF ship and Excelsior would have god-like stats for me to consider buying it. Very disappointing Cryptic, both in stats of B'rel and overall attitude towards players/Your customers.
Yeah,
there's not much more to say. I understand that you need to make money especially during such times but please think people of cryptic. Most people are saving their money because of this unstable and fast changing situation. So if you want them to spend money on your product, you should give them the best reason you can think of. This pack is the opposite. If you're not careful you're going to lose lot's of customers.
Two... TWO legendary KDF ships is all they could come up with for the YEAR OF THE KLINGON???? I don't even play KDF and this makes me mad. On top of that, in order for a KDF player to get a legendary KDF ship, they have to shell out almost as much as the Fed 10-pack?
This is just insulting...
It's the 2021 Anniversary Legendary Bundle, not the Legendary Klingon Bundle they've been promising. I'll continue to wait for that instead. Even if it doesn't include the B'Rel in the future, there's other BoPs that can be included at a later date. At least now I can spend my zen on other stuff now that I know that it won't be showing up in a few months.
Two... TWO legendary KDF ships is all they could come up with for the YEAR OF THE KLINGON???? I don't even play KDF and this makes me mad. On top of that, in order for a KDF player to get a legendary KDF ship, they have to shell out almost as much as the Fed 10-pack?
This is just insulting...
It's the 2021 Anniversary Legendary Bundle, not the Legendary Klingon Bundle they've been promising. I'll continue to wait for that instead. Even if it doesn't include the B'Rel in the future, there's other BoPs that can be included at a later date. At least now I can spend my zen on other stuff now that I know that it won't be showing up in a few months.
If, IF, there's a Klingon Legendary Bundle now, I'm still trying to hold out hope for one, & a Legendary Klingon Bundle doesn't include a B'rel isn't that sort of laughable & pathetic? It has to be at least top 3 of most iconic Klingon ships after all.
If, IF, there's a Klingon Legendary Bundle now, I'm still trying to hold out hope for one, & a Legendary Klingon Bundle doesn't include a B'rel isn't that sort of laughable & pathetic? It has to be at least top 3 of most iconic Klingon ships after all.
I'm holding out hope (a fool's hope most likely, but still) that a Klingon-specific legendary pack will likely involve the D7, given the outcry when this pack was announced.
Not sure why this is just now dawning on me, but I won't be the least bit shocked if come Monday we get an update saying something else is going to be added to the pack.
And call me a conspiracy nut, but if they DO add something to this pack, especially if the items added are ships, then you can bet that the "added" items were intended to be in the bundle in the first place. The reason they held items back would be to see just how much they could get away with.
If the pack is received well, hold off on the add-ons and sell them later. If the pack is received poorly, put the add-ons back in, in an attempt to show they "listen" to the players and will go out of their way to make them happy.
I've seen this type of thing happen too many times to think otherwise. We'll see I guess.
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This may be the most worthless bundle I have ever seen from you guys. I'm sorry Kael I know it's not your fault... but the "year of the Klingon" and this legendary pack seems more the year of lazy sloppy work and a couple of half options and voice acting so company doesn't have to pay anyone to do more...
Then you add to that... out of all of the Klingon ships in lore and the one's Cryptic designed you could only come up with 2 yeah it appears to be 2 whole Klingon ships... really they are asking you to go with that and tell us you guys should like this??
I think I am kind of done spending money on STO till maybe just maybe Cryptic and PW feel like maybe they can actually invest in a real bundle and a real "Year of the Klingon"
Look I really hope that they look at the feedback that seems to be popping up everywhere but I am going to wager it will take a lack of sales. IE they won't make any money on this bundle in order for them to have to sweeten the pot for $250 even at 25% off "your out of your Vulcan mind" if you think I'm paying that for what your offering...
Two... TWO legendary KDF ships is all they could come up with for the YEAR OF THE KLINGON???? I don't even play KDF and this makes me mad. On top of that, in order for a KDF player to get a legendary KDF ship, they have to shell out almost as much as the Fed 10-pack?
This is just insulting...
It's the 2021 Anniversary Legendary Bundle, not the Legendary Klingon Bundle they've been promising. I'll continue to wait for that instead. Even if it doesn't include the B'Rel in the future, there's other BoPs that can be included at a later date. At least now I can spend my zen on other stuff now that I know that it won't be showing up in a few months.
It was confirmed by Kael on Reddit that this IS the Klingon Bundle that has been promised. He also mentioned that there will be other legendary ships released, but they will be single-ship-plus-junk bundles along the lines of the Legendary Rom Bundle. I'll refer you to the post in General discussion for the link to the Reddit post by Kael.
K'vort (just super size a B'rel with some window dressing) = Kelvin Connie
There IS also a Kelvin D7.
True that. Forgot because none of those have been avail in the C-store like the Kelvin Connie is avail through the Legendary pack. That was a significant part of the hook Cryptic. Famous (and good) ships previously not avail in the C-store now becoming available even at an inflated price vs other C-store ships. Why spend way more money for a barely changed variant of a ship already in the C-store? Like say..the B'rel they just put out?
oh okay, i am only interested in the Bird of Prey so i asked
The BOP is already in game only the K'Vort would be "new" because the model should be bigger than the original BOP.
Still the price it to high for 2 new ships. The Fed ships are also already in game and can be purchased. If you have the 10 ship pack as FED you already have the Odyssey and the Galaxy as legendary ships.
So tell me again what is the reason for players to buy so much money for this?
What do you think is in the pack, because the Galaxy and Odyssey are not in this pack.
I think this would have been the perfect way to offer the, "Pick 3", like they have done in the past with some of the previous bundles. Items that are consumable, like the T6 tokens, could be chosen multiple times and multiple purchases of the bundle could be had for those who want more tokens, keys, tech upgrades, etc.
The Ambassador does not have a 25th century-style counterpart, so this might be it.
For the already beautiful Vor'cha, I'm hoping for a sleek, fast-looking variant, like the Sovereign is to the Galaxy. Perhaps the "Chancellor"/Qang-class from TrekLit? https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Qang_class
I was really looking forward to a legendary D7 to go with the legendary B'rel. I'm not even that bothered by the number of ships for the discounted price, but the lack of a D7 is going to make this a much harder sell for me than the 10 ship pack was.
oh okay, i am only interested in the Bird of Prey so i asked
The BOP is already in game only the K'Vort would be "new" because the model should be bigger than the original BOP.
Still the price it to high for 2 new ships. The Fed ships are also already in game and can be purchased. If you have the 10 ship pack as FED you already have the Odyssey and the Galaxy as legendary ships.
So tell me again what is the reason for players to buy so much money for this?
What do you think is in the pack, because the Galaxy and Odyssey are not in this pack.
I think this would have been the perfect way to offer the, "Pick 3", like they have done in the past with some of the previous bundles. Items that are consumable, like the T6 tokens, could be chosen multiple times and multiple purchases of the bundle could be had for those who want more tokens, keys, tech upgrades, etc.
Peeps seeing in those silhouettes what they want to see instead of what is actually there probably (pareidolia). I think I was trying it myself briefly at the beginning lol.
As much as the excelsior is my favorite TOS ship I definitely don't like this pack and won't be buying it, I bought the 10th year anniversary pack and it seemed to be worth it unlike this one.
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Well done on making one of the worst bundles ever I will keep my cash and hope without holding my breath that you will allow us to buy the ships seperately unlike the FED legendary bundle you released last year.
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Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
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The fact that this is their newest idea to take away EC-boxes for the mainly KDF faction and then hide the unlock behind a Zen paywall is... i dont have words for it. So now to offer a unlock for the account is "amazing" right?
This actually seems like it was more work, but less appealing. The Legendary B'Rel doesn't seem as good as the anniversary raider.
I would have dropped $150 for a D7 and a halfway decent B'Rel (since I bought the original basically for the TOS Constitution and a defiant that isn't terrible), but this.
And I probably would have spent $50 for a Legendary Excelsior
But this just seems like a cash grab and one that isn't very appealing, at that.
I'm sorry for the people falling for this. And the ship selection is also weird: B'Rel, K'Vort (the left ship, it's a bigger B'Rel) so those are are basically the same model and two fed ships? All the extra clutter is garbage and they know that, "unlock fly all ships for the account" is something you can do playing your KDF character to max in a day for free or with a token for 20$ and the random keys and boxes are laughable.
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As easily as a player can level-up a character in STO partnered with the timing that many are or have recently created a KDF character during this event the "unlock to fly all ships" is not worth much value. As you stated there's the current sale to pay 1k zen to unlock it immediately or a level 65 KDF character unlocks the ability.
1. Not-legendary B'rel
2. Unreal price
3. Year of Kling-off
1. What is legendary about this B'rel? Well, nothing. I understand that pilot mechanic was asked for this ship but just because it fits her profile. This is one ship in this game that doesn't really benefit from pilot mech. She just doesn't need it. It's fine to have it but it doesn't make this ship better. Beside that this stats doesn't seem to better than C-store/fleet Kor. 5 tac consoles doesn't make B'rel better, it makes it worse because of 1 sci console less. Especially in X-upgrades era. B'rel needs 5/1 layout, this is obvious for everybody that fly this ship. Legen B'rel is in fact worse than fleet Kor (2000 zen + fleet module).
2. 4 legendary + 2 T6 ships for 20000 zen? Gamma pack has 7 T6, 3 T5 and 2 playable races for 15k, 12-10k on sale! OG Legendary Pack has 10 ships for roughly this same promo price and there were 4 non-C-store ships! All that other TRIBBLE is really not welcomed, sure I can use it but I don't need to.
3. Everything was said already about that. Just for You Cryptic to know how insulting this is. Again - understand this pls.: INSULTING. One, ONE ship for KDF for year now. Not-KDF legendary pack with this quality and price? Cross-faction ships - I understand motivation behind this but I think it will have opposite effect - no reason for players to play KDF anymore. And yet You could make 5 or even 4 ships KDF Legen pack and everybody would be happy. 2 new skins and copy-paste Connie and Sove stats.
I'm 90% no for this pack. Other KDF ship and Excelsior would have god-like stats for me to consider buying it. Very disappointing Cryptic, both in stats of B'rel and overall attitude towards players/Your customers.
The BOP is already in game only the K'Vort would be "new" because the model should be bigger than the original BOP.
Still the price it to high for 2 new ships. The Fed ships are also already in game and can be purchased. If you have the 10 ship pack as FED you already have the Odyssey and the Galaxy as legendary ships.
So tell me again what is the reason for players to buy so much money for this?
Yeah,
there's not much more to say. I understand that you need to make money especially during such times but please think people of cryptic. Most people are saving their money because of this unstable and fast changing situation. So if you want them to spend money on your product, you should give them the best reason you can think of. This pack is the opposite. If you're not careful you're going to lose lot's of customers.
It's the 2021 Anniversary Legendary Bundle, not the Legendary Klingon Bundle they've been promising. I'll continue to wait for that instead. Even if it doesn't include the B'Rel in the future, there's other BoPs that can be included at a later date. At least now I can spend my zen on other stuff now that I know that it won't be showing up in a few months.
If, IF, there's a Klingon Legendary Bundle now, I'm still trying to hold out hope for one, & a Legendary Klingon Bundle doesn't include a B'rel isn't that sort of laughable & pathetic? It has to be at least top 3 of most iconic Klingon ships after all.
I'm holding out hope (a fool's hope most likely, but still) that a Klingon-specific legendary pack will likely involve the D7, given the outcry when this pack was announced.
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And call me a conspiracy nut, but if they DO add something to this pack, especially if the items added are ships, then you can bet that the "added" items were intended to be in the bundle in the first place. The reason they held items back would be to see just how much they could get away with.
If the pack is received well, hold off on the add-ons and sell them later. If the pack is received poorly, put the add-ons back in, in an attempt to show they "listen" to the players and will go out of their way to make them happy.
I've seen this type of thing happen too many times to think otherwise. We'll see I guess.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Then you add to that... out of all of the Klingon ships in lore and the one's Cryptic designed you could only come up with 2 yeah it appears to be 2 whole Klingon ships... really they are asking you to go with that and tell us you guys should like this??
I think I am kind of done spending money on STO till maybe just maybe Cryptic and PW feel like maybe they can actually invest in a real bundle and a real "Year of the Klingon"
Look I really hope that they look at the feedback that seems to be popping up everywhere but I am going to wager it will take a lack of sales. IE they won't make any money on this bundle in order for them to have to sweeten the pot for $250 even at 25% off "your out of your Vulcan mind" if you think I'm paying that for what your offering...
My new sig till Cryptic fixes it....
It was confirmed by Kael on Reddit that this IS the Klingon Bundle that has been promised. He also mentioned that there will be other legendary ships released, but they will be single-ship-plus-junk bundles along the lines of the Legendary Rom Bundle. I'll refer you to the post in General discussion for the link to the Reddit post by Kael.
True that. Forgot because none of those have been avail in the C-store like the Kelvin Connie is avail through the Legendary pack. That was a significant part of the hook Cryptic. Famous (and good) ships previously not avail in the C-store now becoming available even at an inflated price vs other C-store ships. Why spend way more money for a barely changed variant of a ship already in the C-store? Like say..the B'rel they just put out?
What do you think is in the pack, because the Galaxy and Odyssey are not in this pack.
I think this would have been the perfect way to offer the, "Pick 3", like they have done in the past with some of the previous bundles. Items that are consumable, like the T6 tokens, could be chosen multiple times and multiple purchases of the bundle could be had for those who want more tokens, keys, tech upgrades, etc.
Did PWE give Tencent a board seat or something?
So far, we know of the B'rel variants.
The new Excelsior is the Repulse class: https://i.redd.it/0vu2fsdiw2461.jpg
The Ambassador does not have a 25th century-style counterpart, so this might be it.
For the already beautiful Vor'cha, I'm hoping for a sleek, fast-looking variant, like the Sovereign is to the Galaxy. Perhaps the "Chancellor"/Qang-class from TrekLit? https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Qang_class
Peeps seeing in those silhouettes what they want to see instead of what is actually there probably (pareidolia). I think I was trying it myself briefly at the beginning lol.
The Narendra. Yes, it's based off a concept design for the earlier design, but Cryptic has made it the "modern" design.
Also, that Excelsior variant is hideous. So is the one they released it as a T6 with back in the day.
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