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davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
Hey I was just wondering for the sake of my collection if there are currently any federation ships that absolutely can't be obtained anymore?

So far I know of the Legendary 10th Anniversary ships, and the Oberth class which is glitched out (at least for me and a few others according to google search).

Are there any others that are currently unobtainable by any means? I was saving for a freedom exploration frigate but it's gone from the exchange and now I'm wondering if that one is extinct as well.

Any help appreciated.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,107 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    Hey I was just wondering for the sake of my collection if there are currently any federation ships that absolutely can't be obtained anymore?

    So far I know of the Legendary 10th Anniversary ships, and the Oberth class which is glitched out (at least for me and a few others according to google search).

    Are there any others that are currently unobtainable by any means? I was saving for a freedom exploration frigate but it's gone from the exchange and now I'm wondering if that one is extinct as well.

    Any help appreciated.

    The Freedom class is an R&D/DOFF Promotional pack 'Prize Ship'and is, for various reasons, not one of the more popular choices for those who win a prize box from opening said packs. Sadly unsurprising that there are none on the exchange as anyone opening boxes for the sole purpose of selling a ship would choose something like the Discovery Constitution (Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier) which is very popular and high-demand.

    This also, sadly, means that if some DO pop up on the exchange they're liable to be expensive due to their rarity.


  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    @reyan01

    Oh okay, dang. But at least that one seems possible to obtain if someone happens to choose it.

    Thanks for reply, and if anyone knows of others that are for sure no longer obtainable drop them here.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,107 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    > @reyan01 said:
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    > The Freedom class is an R&D/DOFF Promotional pack ship - and is, for various reasons, not one of the more popular choices for those who win a prize box from opening said packs. Sadly unsurprising that there are none on the exchange as anyone opening boxes for the sole purpose of selling a ship would choose something like the Discovery Constitution (Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier) which is very popular and high-demand.

    Oh okay, dang. But at least that one seems possible to obtain if someone happens to choose it.

    Thanks for reply, and if anyone knows of others that are for sure no longer obtainable drop them here.

    Yeah - the Freedom class is still a choice, but I'd assume that those who actually do choose said ship actually keep it as oposed to selling it.

    I actually own one and it is, imho, a pretty underrated ship - it hits hard, is quite a little tank, and is nicely nimble. I enjoy it - but to be honest they're as rare as rocking horse poo in-game; its been in game (via promo prize box) for a year now but I've over ever seen one other (in a TFO).


  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    Yeah I'll hold out hope that someone posts another one on exchange. Up until two days ago there was one on exchange for 1.5 billion, but I don't quite have enough.


    Also wanted to note that I know about the Pioneer utility cruiser only available to TOS starfleet characters during tutorial, and also about the Discovery shuttlecraft only available to DSC starfleet characters. Both are bummers but I can live with it.


    Really wish they'd fix my unpurchasable Oberth Class though......been glitched out since the march update that was supposed to make tier 1-4 ships cost dilithium instead of zen....
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,107 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    @reyan01

    Oh okay, dang. But at least that one seems possible to obtain if someone happens to choose it.

    Thanks for reply, and if anyone knows of others that are for sure no longer obtainable drop them here.

    Well, others ships that are technically no longer obtainable:

    Mirror Guardian Cruiser: Was a limited time purchase from a charity drive led by Chase Masterson (Leeta) some years ago. There was also a cap on how many were available (pretty sure there were only 3k keys for it). It hasn't reappeared since.
    This counts for the Mirror Runabout too.

    Andorian Light Escort (T1): This could only be obtained by buying the Neverwinter entry pack during Neverwinter's pre-launch. Again, hasn't reappeared since.


  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    > @reyan01 said:
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    > Well, others ships that are technically no longer obtainable:
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    > Mirror Guardian Cruiser: Was a limited time purchase from a charity drive led by Chase Masterson (Leeta) some years ago. There was also a cap on how many were available (pretty sure there were only 3k keys for it). It hasn't reappeared since.
    > This counts for the Mirror Runabout too.
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    > Andorian Light Escort (T1): This could only be obtained by buying the Neverwinter entry pack during Neverwinter's pre-launch. Again, hasn't reappeared since.
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    Okay that's good to know about the andorian escort. As for mirror ships, I've been on the fence about even starting to collect them since there are so many and they are essentially recolors with a few exceptions.

    Thanks, keep 'em coming. (Unless that's everything lol)
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,034 Arc User
    There's no Steamrunner anymore on the Consoles despite it being released later on PC (for God know's what reason!).
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    > @leemwatson said:
    > There's no Steamrunner anymore on the Consoles despite it being released later on PC (for God know's what reason!).
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    Damn really? That sucks. I like the steam runner it is unique. I wish the Norway class was in the game too.

    I also heard that many console users have the same Oberth glitch that I have on PC where the purchase button is permanently grayed out.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,501 Arc User
    The only ship I can think of is the pre-refit Fleet Patrol Escort. Before the Tempest came out, the old Fleet Patrol Escort didn't have a fused tailgun. The current Fleet Patrol Escort Refit does.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    > @rattler2 said:
    > The only ship I can think of is the pre-refit Fleet Patrol Escort. Before the Tempest came out, the old Fleet Patrol Escort didn't have a fused tailgun. The current Fleet Patrol Escort Refit does.
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    Interesting. Do you know if the 3d model was changed for everyone or if old players who bought it earlier still have the non fused version?
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    I havent opened the Mirror box to get one recently but they probably still come without the fused gun as I dont think they got changed.

    Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,443 Arc User
    The Mirror cruiser Guardian Class 0 imho, though currently untainable, I have a feeling Mudd's market will have it with an insane price. The Legendary Bundle should be back soon, I predict it will appear either around Black Friday or Christmas - or if ever Pelosi decides to agree on a stimulus package for the American public.

    It is not a very good ship, so no big lost

    Freedom class from the alternate Trek timeline is unobtainable due to player's choice - I suspect Cryptic messed around with the drop rates again, so those promo and T6 Lockbox drops are Extremely difficult to obtain now. someone mentioned around 2,000 keys to MAYBE obtain a T6 ship, and who knows what's the data on a promo drop.

    We are talking several hundred dollars US up to a grand for a chance at a drop. Chances are extremely low

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  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    > @stark2k said:
    > The Mirror cruiser Guardian Class 0 imho, though currently untainable, I have a feeling Mudd's market will have it with an insane price. The Legendary Bundle should be back soon, I predict it will appear either around Black Friday or Christmas - or if ever Pelosi decides to agree on a stimulus package for the American public.
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    > It is not a very good ship, so no big lost
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    > Freedom class from the alternate Trek timeline is unobtainable due to player's choice - I suspect Cryptic messed around with the drop rates again, so those promo and T6 Lockbox drops are Extremely difficult to obtain now. someone mentioned around 2,000 keys to MAYBE obtain a T6 ship, and who knows what's the data on a promo drop.
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    Man that is disappointing. I'm at the point where I have most federation ships except some really, really expensive ones and some fleet exclusives. I guess this is where 'finishing' my collection becomes a real grind.

    And of course the Oberth glitch I keep mentioning (can you tell I'm bitter? Lmao). Just really annoying to be barred from getting a measly T1 ship that happens to be a canon ship I really want just for novelty.


    EDIT: I just realized that khitomer alliance battlecruiser is also not obtainable anymore after the 10th anniversary event ended. I wasnt sure if I really wanted it but I guess its *sort of* a discontinued federation ship. Maybe it will show up on mudds market.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,501 Arc User
    Interesting. Do you know if the 3d model was changed for everyone or if old players who bought it earlier still have the non fused version?

    I still have the non fused version on a character because I never upgraded her to T5U.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 713 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    Steamrunner was a Steam exclusive ship for PC IIRC. and can you get the original mod 1 mark 0 anniversary Odyssey from the infinity tokens?

    Etit. Nope neither the original Oddy or Bortesqu can be had
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,501 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    nixie50 wrote: »
    Steamrunner was a Steam exclusive ship for PC IIRC. and can you get the original mod 1 mark 0 anniversary Odyssey from the infinity tokens?

    Etit. Nope neither the original Oddy or Bortesqu can be had

    Actually...
    STO Wiki wrote:
    The Odyssey-class Star Cruiser is a Tier 5 (Level 50) Cruiser which may be flown by Starfleet characters, including Federation-aligned Romulan Republic and Dominion characters.

    Players can obtain this starship from any Ship and Shuttle Requisitions officer for 200,000 Fleet Credits, so long as the player's Fleet has a Tier V Starbase Shipyard and one Starbase Military Fleet Ship Provision.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Odyssey_Star_Cruiser

    Also... the Steamrunner is available still on PC.
    STO wiki wrote:
    The Steamrunner Blockade Runner Escort Retrofit used to be exclusive to Steam as part of the Steam Starter Pack, which also came with the Lieutenant variant, before being made available in the Cryptic Store for 2500 Zen as part of the Steamrunner Bundle
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Steamrunner_Blockade_Runner_Escort_Retrofit
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,180 Arc User
    Andorian Kumari-class Light Escort only available from a Promotion in the Heros of the North Bundle from Neverwinter. It is a T1 ship but has three weapon mounts.
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  • darpendragondarpendragon Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    The T5 Ambassador class.

    It was originally a reward for Temporal Ambassador episode during the 3rd year anniversary. Then it was given away as an account unlock during summer 2014.

    Since then, there has been no other way of getting it.
  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    > @darpendragon said:
    > The T5 Ambassador class.
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    > It was originally a reward for Temporal Ambassador episode during the 3rd year anniversary. Then it was given away as an account unlock during summer 2014.
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    Didn't know about this one either. Does the other ambassador (t6 I think?) Have the same variants or does the T5 have a special look?
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,682 Arc User
    > @darpendragon said:
    > The T5 Ambassador class.
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    > It was originally a reward for Temporal Ambassador episode during the 3rd year anniversary. Then it was given away as an account unlock during summer 2014.
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    Didn't know about this one either. Does the other ambassador (t6 I think?) Have the same variants or does the T5 have a special look?

    The T6 has all the parts in the tailor I believe.
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    reyan01 wrote: »
    gone from the exchange

    This also, sadly, means that if some DO pop up on the exchange they're liable to be expensive due to their rarity.

    Some ships fade in and out of the exchange. Currently there is a really low stock overall for the non-overly popular or recent ones.

    As for the Freedom, well I have one in a box in my acc-bank. The cruel joke is that it's account-bound, because some backend-security-measure last year was slightly overtuned and many players randomly got bound ship-boxes.
  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    > @redeyedraven said:
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    > Some ships fade in and out of the exchange. Currently there is a really low stock overall for the non-overly popular or recent ones.
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    > As for the Freedom, well I have one in a box in my acc-bank. The cruel joke is that it's account-bound, because some backend-security-measure last year was slightly overtuned and many players randomly got bound ship-boxes.
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    Damn that's harsh. I'm still hoping one will pop up again. If it's been out over a year I doubt itll get added to the infinity lock box pool unfortunately.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,501 Arc User
    Damn that's harsh. I'm still hoping one will pop up again. If it's been out over a year I doubt itll get added to the infinity lock box pool unfortunately.

    It won't... because its an R&D Promo ship. It was never lockbox.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • davedriscoll90davedriscoll90 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    Damn I just realized Inquiry isnt a lockbox ship either. There was a bunch on exchange last week but now those are all gone too.

    I'm a little less interested in this but what about that Picard ship la sirena or whatever? Is that one another limited time pickup?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,501 Arc User
    Yea. The La Sirena was also a promo.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 3,339 Arc User
    Hey I was just wondering for the sake of my collection if there are currently any federation ships that absolutely can't be obtained anymore?
    One of my favorite ships both from the way it looks and performance is at the moment pretty much impossible to get unless your very lucky and find someone selling a one of the few if any remaining codes. Enterprise E, variant Vizier Command Assault Cruiser with the Launch Metreon Gas Warhead.

    Well I guess you can get the Fleet version. A few of the impossible to get ships in here might be possible to get via the Fleet version if you don't mind losing the benefits of the core version.
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 2,662 Community Moderator
    leemwatson wrote: »
    There's no Steamrunner anymore on the Consoles despite it being released later on PC (for God know's what reason!).

    Steamrunner was released on PC first with a console release coming along later. There used to be a pack you could buy on steam that was about $25 or so and would give you the t5 steamrunner, t1 steamrunner, 3 boffs, and some basic starting gear for your toon. That pack was later retired for whatever reason. For a time there was no way for folks to get the steamrunner until they re-released it in the form of the pack we have today, minus the little odds and ends it gave previously. I still have the original pack on my account from years ago.

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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    One of my favorite ships both from the way it looks and performance is at the moment pretty much impossible to get unless your very lucky and find someone selling a one of the few if any remaining codes. Enterprise E, variant Vizier Command Assault Cruiser with the Launch Metreon Gas Warhead.

    It's actually available in Mudd's Market ever since that was added, just really expensive for a single ship.
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 3,339 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    One of my favorite ships both from the way it looks and performance is at the moment pretty much impossible to get unless your very lucky and find someone selling a one of the few if any remaining codes. Enterprise E, variant Vizier Command Assault Cruiser with the Launch Metreon Gas Warhead.

    It's actually available in Mudd's Market ever since that was added, just really expensive for a single ship.
    Thought it was removed as I no longer see it in Mudds market. But then again I own it, so perhaps it doesn't show anymore? Is it still the crasy price of 17k ZEN?
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