That grill looks like it was some sort of Starfleet ship imitation, for some kind of ruse but it lacked proper technology to make a SF brand deflector dish.
It's a cheap Ferengi knock-off, but when Madran sold a fleet of them to the Federation, he insisted they only look at it from the top.
As embarassing as it is to admit, I'd never realised you could mix two weapons from the same reputation.
I decided to go for a mixed cannon/beam build (with a torpedo fore & aft) to make good use of the ship's decent weapon layout and the fact that it can utilise the MW 'Mixed Armaments Synergy' BOFF ability.
As I said, didn't realise I could equip two weapons from the same set, and have the Terran reputation phaser DHC and the Terran reputation beam array equipped. Quite a potent combo!
Yes, it just doesn't grant you any additional boni (like a four piece instead of three). I did this on a few ships that look good using cannons and beams (I primarily choose weapons for visuals )
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Still not available on Tribble (like the Sirena) via the T6 reward pack (has to have its own pack unlocked first), so "free" testing can't be done, of course.
You have to be careful with the way Cryptic calculates stuff. The Omega Impulse Engines from the Omega Rep used to grant a 200% cooldown on Transwarp. Under normal math, that would mean you get Bonus Time as 100% should be no cooldown at all.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Still not available on Tribble (like the Sirena) via the T6 reward pack (has to have its own pack unlocked first), so "free" testing can't be done, of course.
That's pretty much par for the course.. which speaks volumes on how confident they are with the value of their offerings.
I bought the ship for 1.2bil, copied about 70 to Tribble, then sold it for 1.25. They still haven't updated Tribble with the 'bound to character' fix, but after they do I will be doing my normal thing of mailing these out for folks to try. Whenever that happens I'll post a thread.
That scene bugs me. The ships where not cloaked. You serious expect me to believe NO Romulan sensor officer was watching his station?
Also, that's more freaking ships than in the Dominion war!
That is typical Kurtzman Trek, apparently the writers cannot understand the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars so while they call the FTL drive "warp" it acts like a hyperspace drive where they just appear out of nowhere. On top of that, I would not be surprised if their idea of "sensors" was someone standing at one of the too-many windows with binoculars.
It is another aspect of what irks the core Trek fans the most, Kurtzman's team breaks one of the first rules of writing: Know Your Subject, and according to the behind the scenes features for Discovery few if any on the team do. Most said they never watched any of the Treks, and the few who said they did mostly just saw the movies. Only the costume designer seemed to be a fan of any of the series, and in her case that was TNG.
I have to say, i, personally, find it pretty disappointing that almost every Inquiry class I've seen has been named 'USS Zheng He'....
^^^
Fans will be fans. They all see themselves as 'Captain Riker". (And nothing wrong with that in an RPG some play for escape and for relaxation.)
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'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
If this ship just had the same turn rate and inertia of the Fleet Arbiter Class Battlecruiser T6 then we would have a winner. The same BO seating of the Shepard MW would be gravy. The Fleet Gagarin is a good ship just not as fun to fly as the Arbiter. I can see this being the same issue with Inquiry Battlecruiser, which is why I won't get it.
I have to say, i, personally, find it pretty disappointing that almost every Inquiry class I've seen has been named 'USS Zheng He'....
I named mine: U.S.S. Dominator T.I.V. ( TIV = Tactical Intercept Vessel )
The name is a double-name ..
In the USA, there are some very popular teams of stormchasers / Tornadochaser..
Dominater and TIV, are kind of "amored" car, which are capable to drive very close into Tornado Vortex.
While "Dominator" is owned and operated by commercial meteorologist and a tv-station ,
the "TIV" ( Tornado Intercept Vehicle ) is from or for a "Moviemaker" who doing documentaries and so on..
As both cars have kind of boxy, aggressive and allmost "badass" tank-like shapes , i thought, "this fits the inquiry very well" ...
so yeah, i named my ship after thos cars to "honor" them
One of those cars (can't remember which one offhand) was designed by the Mythbusters team as their entry in a contest for most tornado-durable vehicle. It includes anchors that can be fired into the ground (don't think it worked on the paved surface, because concrete is hard, but worked great on dirt).
Not apropos of anything it particular, just a bit of trivia I find interesting.
I bought the ship for 1.2bil, copied about 70 to Tribble, then sold it for 1.25. They still haven't updated Tribble with the 'bound to character' fix, but after they do I will be doing my normal thing of mailing these out for folks to try. Whenever that happens I'll post a thread.
That scene bugs me. The ships where not cloaked. You serious expect me to believe NO Romulan sensor officer was watching his station?
Also, that's more freaking ships than in the Dominion war!
That is typical Kurtzman Trek, apparently the writers cannot understand the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars so while they call the FTL drive "warp" it acts like a hyperspace drive where they just appear out of nowhere. On top of that, I would not be surprised if their idea of "sensors" was someone standing at one of the too-many windows with binoculars.
It is another aspect of what irks the core Trek fans the most, Kurtzman's team breaks one of the first rules of writing: Know Your Subject, and according to the behind the scenes features for Discovery few if any on the team do. Most said they never watched any of the Treks, and the few who said they did mostly just saw the movies. Only the costume designer seemed to be a fan of any of the series, and in her case that was TNG.
O'BRIEN: It's a large Dominion fleet. Twelve hundred and fifty four ships.
BASHIR: They outnumber us two to one.
SISKO: There's an old saying, fortune favours the bold. Well, I guess we're about to find out.
^^^
The above is directly from DS9 - "A Sacrifice Of Angels"
Dominion: 1254 ships
at 2 to 1 that means:
Federation: 627 ships
Total: 1881 ships.
So, I guess Moore Trek is a bad in your eyes as Kurtzman Trek given your quoted post above, eh?
As for the 'watched Trek' category - there's plenty on Kurtzman's staff who have watched and do know Trek (and Michael Chabon who wrote the Picard episode in question is definitely among them.)
Contrast that with Berman era Trek where everyone on staff was told NOT to watch TOS or any other Trek series.
So yeah, as usual, your post is fan gatekeeping by someone talking nonsense. maybe you need to actually watch it a pay a bit more attention.
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I bought the ship for 1.2bil, copied about 70 to Tribble, then sold it for 1.25. They still haven't updated Tribble with the 'bound to character' fix, but after they do I will be doing my normal thing of mailing these out for folks to try. Whenever that happens I'll post a thread.
That scene bugs me. The ships where not cloaked. You serious expect me to believe NO Romulan sensor officer was watching his station?
Also, that's more freaking ships than in the Dominion war!
That is typical Kurtzman Trek, apparently the writers cannot understand the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars so while they call the FTL drive "warp" it acts like a hyperspace drive where they just appear out of nowhere. On top of that, I would not be surprised if their idea of "sensors" was someone standing at one of the too-many windows with binoculars.
It is another aspect of what irks the core Trek fans the most, Kurtzman's team breaks one of the first rules of writing: Know Your Subject, and according to the behind the scenes features for Discovery few if any on the team do. Most said they never watched any of the Treks, and the few who said they did mostly just saw the movies. Only the costume designer seemed to be a fan of any of the series, and in her case that was TNG.
O'BRIEN: It's a large Dominion fleet. Twelve hundred and fifty four ships.
BASHIR: They outnumber us two to one.
SISKO: There's an old saying, fortune favours the bold. Well, I guess we're about to find out.
^^^
The above is directly from DS9 - "A Sacrifice Of Angels"
Dominion: 1254 ships
at 2 to 1 that means:
Federation: 627 ships
Total: 1881 ships.
So, I guess Moore Trek is a bad in your eyes as Kurtzman Trek given your quoted post above, eh?
As for the 'watched Trek' category - there's plenty on Kurtzman's staff who have watched and do know Trek (and Michael Chabon who wrote the Picard episode in question is definitely among them.)
Contrast that with Berman era Trek where everyone on staff was told NOT to watch TOS or any other Trek series.
So yeah, as usual, your post is fan gatekeeping by someone talking nonsense. maybe you need to actually watch it a pay a bit more attention.
You totally missed the point. I was not talking about the number of ships at all, I was referring to the fact that the Romulans never saw a massive fleet bearing down on them until they dropped out of warp. In TNG they were scanning out to ten parsecs looking for the USS Phoenix in "The Wounded" and watched the Phoenix kill a Cardassian freighter and her escort at a range that would take them several hours at warp 4 to get to.
In PIC the Romulans should have seen the fleet coming, but as usual for Kurtzman Trek the ships just dropped in out of nowhere with no warning.
But now that you brought it up, the number of ships in the cut-and-paste fleet is a bit over the top, but hardly the inter-series continuity gaff that the Romulans not noticing a fleet of that size bearing down on them was. Just for contrast, in the battle to retake DS9, scraping up those 600 Federation ships was a serious gamble on Starfleet's part since it left other areas short, and even then it was mainly a mix of modern corvettes and other lighter ships, and obsolete ships they pulled out of mothballs along with a relatively small core of heavy ships, not 600 cruisers. In PIC the impression they give is that Riker's fleet was just a slightly larger than average task force.
You totally missed the point. I was not talking about the number of ships at all, I was referring to the fact that the Romulans never saw a massive fleet bearing down on them until they dropped out of warp. In TNG they were scanning out to ten parsecs looking for the USS Phoenix in "The Wounded" and watched the Phoenix kill a Cardassian freighter and her escort at a range that would take them several hours at warp 4 to get to.
This argument ignores that, in those cases, they were actively scanning for incoming vessels. why would the Romulans be doing so in Picard?
Who in their right mind wouldn't be looking for possible incoming ships? The Romulans would have to be morons if they were not keeping watch as part of standard procedure. It would be like if a US fleet in the Mediterranean just decided to turn off all their radars and ignore everything while preparing to attack land targets while an enemy scout sits in plain view watching them do it.
Who in their right mind wouldn't be looking for possible incoming ships? The Romulans would have to be morons if they were not keeping watch as part of standard procedure. It would be like if a US fleet in the Mediterranean just decided to turn off all their radars and ignore everything while preparing to attack land targets while an enemy scout sits in plain view watching them do it.
The Romulans, who not only believe they are going to do a hit and run, but also have no reason to believe the Federation even knows they are there, or that the synths exist, because Oh and the Zhat Vash have been covering up the synths existence in their attempts to hunt them down and destroy them. Not to mention the planet the synths were on was a non aligned planet, and thus, not in Federation space. So the Feds have no reason to be there in the first place.
That ignores the fact that they know Picard is working against them, has a lot of friends in Starfleet, and has subspace radio available. No fleet would be caught dead without people on watch for anything approaching or they would be dead the first time an enemy caught them with their pants down like that.
For that matter they also know that Seven is involved somehow (they may or may not have the details) and the last they knew she took control of the Cube, not to mention that other Rangers could be involved. While they probably would not consider the Rangers much of a threat the possibility of a Borg cube lurking (with the research group eliminated they probably did not see the flower get it) no matter how slim the odds, should be enough incentive to keep an eye on the sensors.
For that matter, Commodore Oh was imbedded in Starfleet long enough to know that that pack of cowboys is not very good at following their own rules and she should anticipate the possibility that Federation forces could poke their nose in at any time, especially since she was no longer there to sabotage that kind of response.
can't believe that design was used in a major t.v production it's ugly not Yeager Class ugly but still not my cup of tea
At least with it being rare it won't end up filling social areas and TFO's as a copy and paste Fleet 😁
I was pretty disturbed when that episode showed the entire fleet was composed of 1 ship. Meanwhile multi-ship engagements such as on the rest of Star Trek had multiple classes. First Contact with Starfleet against the Borg. DS9 had battles showing lots of classes for the Klingons, Starfleet, Dominion.
There is also the thing, and I know this is subjective, but looking at those pictures - those ships also don't look good. Not the design itself, but the textures and all. It looks like a video game, and not a good one. STOs ship models look better.
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
can't believe that design was used in a major t.v production it's ugly not Yeager Class ugly but still not my cup of tea
At least with it being rare it won't end up filling social areas and TFO's as a copy and paste Fleet 😁
I was pretty disturbed when that episode showed the entire fleet was composed of 1 ship. Meanwhile multi-ship engagements such as on the rest of Star Trek had multiple classes. First Contact with Starfleet against the Borg. DS9 had battles showing lots of classes for the Klingons, Starfleet, Dominion.
And lots of losses. Then the Federation lost the Utopia Planitia shipyards and had to fill in with the Eridani and Andor shipyards, which apparently weren't as big.
As for the Romulans, you're not looking at the fleet of the Romulan Star Empire, even post-Hobus - you're looking at a task force assembled by a tiny fraction of the Tal'Shiar. That's the ship design they chose for their purposes, and given their obsession that was probably the group's entire fleet.
can't believe that design was used in a major t.v production it's ugly not Yeager Class ugly but still not my cup of tea
At least with it being rare it won't end up filling social areas and TFO's as a copy and paste Fleet 😁
I was pretty disturbed when that episode showed the entire fleet was composed of 1 ship. Meanwhile multi-ship engagements such as on the rest of Star Trek had multiple classes. First Contact with Starfleet against the Borg. DS9 had battles showing lots of classes for the Klingons, Starfleet, Dominion.
And lots of losses. Then the Federation lost the Utopia Planitia shipyards and had to fill in with the Eridani and Andor shipyards, which apparently weren't as big.
As for the Romulans, you're not looking at the fleet of the Romulan Star Empire, even post-Hobus - you're looking at a task force assembled by a tiny fraction of the Tal'Shiar. That's the ship design they chose for their purposes, and given their obsession that was probably the group's entire fleet.
While Utopia Planitia was one of the biggest shipyards it was still only one out of 19 shipyards mentioned in the various series, not to mention that the starbases all had major repair yards that could build ships from scratch if they had to. And having to depend on a wide variety of shipyards, like the Eridani and Andor ones, would tend to increase the diversity of ships rather than churning out cookie-cutter copies of a single class because of local supply characteristics.
Realistically such a setup would have a variety of size classes entering service because some yards would be better at handling smaller ships (probably the starbases) while others would be building the larger classes. Likewise, unless Oh's forces control a single high-capacity yard that only makes one or two classes of ship then her forces would be more likely to be a rag-tag collection of whatever they could scrape up, not all the same class. Both the Federation and Romulan fleets would have been much better done using capital ships mixed with a screen of lighter tactical ships and support ships.
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It's a cheap Ferengi knock-off, but when Madran sold a fleet of them to the Federation, he insisted they only look at it from the top.
Yes, it just doesn't grant you any additional boni (like a four piece instead of three). I did this on a few ships that look good using cannons and beams (I primarily choose weapons for visuals
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
That's pretty much par for the course.. which speaks volumes on how confident they are with the value of their offerings.
That is typical Kurtzman Trek, apparently the writers cannot understand the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars so while they call the FTL drive "warp" it acts like a hyperspace drive where they just appear out of nowhere. On top of that, I would not be surprised if their idea of "sensors" was someone standing at one of the too-many windows with binoculars.
It is another aspect of what irks the core Trek fans the most, Kurtzman's team breaks one of the first rules of writing: Know Your Subject, and according to the behind the scenes features for Discovery few if any on the team do. Most said they never watched any of the Treks, and the few who said they did mostly just saw the movies. Only the costume designer seemed to be a fan of any of the series, and in her case that was TNG.
Fans will be fans. They all see themselves as 'Captain Riker". (And nothing wrong with that in an RPG some play for escape and for relaxation.)
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I named mine the USS Xuanzang
Since the first one we saw was named after a Chinese Explorer. I decided to do some research on other Chinese explorers in history.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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I named mine: U.S.S. Dominator T.I.V. ( TIV = Tactical Intercept Vessel )
The name is a double-name ..
In the USA, there are some very popular teams of stormchasers / Tornadochaser..
Dominater and TIV, are kind of "amored" car, which are capable to drive very close into Tornado Vortex.
While "Dominator" is owned and operated by commercial meteorologist and a tv-station ,
the "TIV" ( Tornado Intercept Vehicle ) is from or for a "Moviemaker" who doing documentaries and so on..
As both cars have kind of boxy, aggressive and allmost "badass" tank-like shapes , i thought, "this fits the inquiry very well" ...
so yeah, i named my ship after thos cars to "honor" them
Not apropos of anything it particular, just a bit of trivia I find interesting.
Those cars remind me of the cars in the old 80s or something game Death Track.
ORLY?
http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/530.htm
^^^
The above is directly from DS9 - "A Sacrifice Of Angels"
Dominion: 1254 ships
at 2 to 1 that means:
Federation: 627 ships
Total: 1881 ships.
So, I guess Moore Trek is a bad in your eyes as Kurtzman Trek given your quoted post above, eh?
As for the 'watched Trek' category - there's plenty on Kurtzman's staff who have watched and do know Trek (and Michael Chabon who wrote the Picard episode in question is definitely among them.)
Contrast that with Berman era Trek where everyone on staff was told NOT to watch TOS or any other Trek series.
So yeah, as usual, your post is fan gatekeeping by someone talking nonsense. maybe you need to actually watch it a pay a bit more attention.
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You totally missed the point. I was not talking about the number of ships at all, I was referring to the fact that the Romulans never saw a massive fleet bearing down on them until they dropped out of warp. In TNG they were scanning out to ten parsecs looking for the USS Phoenix in "The Wounded" and watched the Phoenix kill a Cardassian freighter and her escort at a range that would take them several hours at warp 4 to get to.
In PIC the Romulans should have seen the fleet coming, but as usual for Kurtzman Trek the ships just dropped in out of nowhere with no warning.
But now that you brought it up, the number of ships in the cut-and-paste fleet is a bit over the top, but hardly the inter-series continuity gaff that the Romulans not noticing a fleet of that size bearing down on them was. Just for contrast, in the battle to retake DS9, scraping up those 600 Federation ships was a serious gamble on Starfleet's part since it left other areas short, and even then it was mainly a mix of modern corvettes and other lighter ships, and obsolete ships they pulled out of mothballs along with a relatively small core of heavy ships, not 600 cruisers. In PIC the impression they give is that Riker's fleet was just a slightly larger than average task force.
Who in their right mind wouldn't be looking for possible incoming ships? The Romulans would have to be morons if they were not keeping watch as part of standard procedure. It would be like if a US fleet in the Mediterranean just decided to turn off all their radars and ignore everything while preparing to attack land targets while an enemy scout sits in plain view watching them do it.
That ignores the fact that they know Picard is working against them, has a lot of friends in Starfleet, and has subspace radio available. No fleet would be caught dead without people on watch for anything approaching or they would be dead the first time an enemy caught them with their pants down like that.
For that matter they also know that Seven is involved somehow (they may or may not have the details) and the last they knew she took control of the Cube, not to mention that other Rangers could be involved. While they probably would not consider the Rangers much of a threat the possibility of a Borg cube lurking (with the research group eliminated they probably did not see the flower get it) no matter how slim the odds, should be enough incentive to keep an eye on the sensors.
For that matter, Commodore Oh was imbedded in Starfleet long enough to know that that pack of cowboys is not very good at following their own rules and she should anticipate the possibility that Federation forces could poke their nose in at any time, especially since she was no longer there to sabotage that kind of response.
Unfortunately the name Zheng He is not the only one popular out there i know of at least 3 more who have the same name as mine.
I was pretty disturbed when that episode showed the entire fleet was composed of 1 ship. Meanwhile multi-ship engagements such as on the rest of Star Trek had multiple classes. First Contact with Starfleet against the Borg. DS9 had battles showing lots of classes for the Klingons, Starfleet, Dominion.
Same thing with the Romulans in this episode.
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As for the Romulans, you're not looking at the fleet of the Romulan Star Empire, even post-Hobus - you're looking at a task force assembled by a tiny fraction of the Tal'Shiar. That's the ship design they chose for their purposes, and given their obsession that was probably the group's entire fleet.
While Utopia Planitia was one of the biggest shipyards it was still only one out of 19 shipyards mentioned in the various series, not to mention that the starbases all had major repair yards that could build ships from scratch if they had to. And having to depend on a wide variety of shipyards, like the Eridani and Andor ones, would tend to increase the diversity of ships rather than churning out cookie-cutter copies of a single class because of local supply characteristics.
Realistically such a setup would have a variety of size classes entering service because some yards would be better at handling smaller ships (probably the starbases) while others would be building the larger classes. Likewise, unless Oh's forces control a single high-capacity yard that only makes one or two classes of ship then her forces would be more likely to be a rag-tag collection of whatever they could scrape up, not all the same class. Both the Federation and Romulan fleets would have been much better done using capital ships mixed with a screen of lighter tactical ships and support ships.