it's also called that because of the sheer amount of deaths the day used to - and still does - see...but people would rather use the more cheerful version for obvious reasons
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It wouldn't surprise me if some people tried to get the name changed cause they do think it's racist.
Which makes about as much sense as replacing a statue of George Washington at the University of Washington, here in Washington State, with a statue of the Black Lives Matter Fist. What does that have to do with UW?
I get the hate for them being only in a bundle but I don't get why the hate for the price, 10 ships for $300 is the same if you bought 10 T6 ships at the $30 price tag. And no you can't argue that some of them aren't worth $30 when all T6 ships (outside Mudd's Market) are $30. The worth of the ships is subjective.
What is hard to understand? Not everyone wants all ten ships, and if they only want one out of the bundle they still have to buy the bundle, which means the one ship cost them $300. The other nine are irrelevant if they don't want and will not use them.
And yes, that is the worst case scenario, but it does illustrate the point.
Sad matter is that you could spend 500 and not get the lock box ship you want...you can either RNG, pay through the nose, or save up millions of dilithium. This is how the game works and is being ran by a guy who has a background in mobile gaming
All about doing the littlest effort and making the biggest profit
The bundles will be back, probably for "Renamed To Something Else Friday" ...
You don't need to try and be politically correct on that, as Black Friday has nothing to do with race whatsoever. I think it's called that because businesses usually end up "in the black" in terms of profits, meaning they made LOTS of money, whereas if they were in the red they would have lost money.
The term has to do with the way account books were done along with traditional average yearly expense/profit. First off, income was written in black ink while expenses or debts were written in red ink (which is also where the Black Widow's line "I have red in my ledger" in the Avengers movies comes from).
With the profit/expense ratios of the average business taking the money flowing in and out over the year and dividing it you come up with a number of days which zero out followed (hopefully anyway) by days that are pure profit and counting the traditional number of those on a calendar makes the first day of pure profit that Friday that is called "black friday".
Since by the title this thread is about a show of hands, I thought maybe this would be an good show of hands:
Exactly. Unless ink color is now considered racist, which would be totally STUPID, but wouldn't put it past some idiot to try and push in this day and age...
It wouldn't surprise me if some people tried to get the name changed cause they do think it's racist.
Which makes about as much sense as replacing a statue of George Washington at the University of Washington, here in Washington State, with a statue of the Black Lives Matter Fist. What does that have to do with UW?
I swear some of these people take it WAY too far.
Yes, you're right about that. Things have gone way too far.
Exactly. Unless ink color is now considered racist, which would be totally STUPID, but wouldn't put it past some idiot to try and push in this day and age...
Agreed, totally stupid, like tearing down statues and basically trying to erase history.
I wouldn't put it past people to try, either.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
― George Orwell, 1984
There's no way I am ever going to lay out hundreds of dollars, or even a single hundred, for anything in any online game. Not going to happen.
I have played a lot of different MMO's in the last 20 years, but never seen anything to compare to the avarice of STO, never seen any other game that tries to milk its players for such huge chunks of cash.
They get away with it, and in a capitalist economy there's no arguing with success. Having spoken that harshly, I am compelled by my sense of fairness to admit STO is also generous with free giveaways.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I have played a lot of different MMO's in the last 20 years, but never seen anything to compare to the avarice of STO, never seen any other game that tries to milk its players for such huge chunks of cash.
WoW and Final Fantasy make you pay a monthly sub, then pay for new content expansions. In STO everything you buy is optional not required. FF still sells mounts for $36, costumes for $18.
STO doesn't punish you the way SWTOR does (did?) if you don't subscribe, with locking out content, not letting you equip gear, not even letting you match colors on your gear. (Yes I know STO has some palette problems, that's a different issue.)
STO doesn't have the energy / oil / resource mechanics of mobile games where you can only play for so long in a day before you run out and have to pay them cash monies to keep playing.
STO is the most generous MMORPG for free players that I've played. Yes, they compensate for that by trying to sell you cosmetics for as much as the market will bear, but you're also not paying $120-$180 a year for a sub.
One year sub = cost of the Legendary Bundle.
Perhaps STO should "hide" its costs the way WoW and FF do? You pay $15 a month, but you get to rent all ships for as long as you pay? Or you get 1,500 zen credit instead of 500 like LTS?
STO doesn't punish you the way SWTOR does (did?) if you don't subscribe, with locking out content, not letting you equip gear, not even let you match colors on your gear.
Still kinda does. F2P and Preferred still have a Credit cap of 1 mil, reduced XP gain after a certain point, can't use mounts as early as Subs, and can't equip certain kinds of Artifact grade gear without a Cartel Store unlock. And I think TOR still has a limit on how many Flashpoints (dungeons) a F2P/Preffered can run a week. Not sure if you still have to at least go up to Preferred to even have a personal bank though.
Now you CAN kinda get around some of that even with a week long sub from a Refer a Friend link, but it can still be a bit rough for pure F2P at times.
STO doesn't punish you the way SWTOR does (did?) if you don't subscribe, with locking out content, not letting you equip gear, not even let you match colors on your gear.
Still kinda does. F2P and Preferred still have a Credit cap of 1 mil, reduced XP gain after a certain point, can't use mounts as early as Subs, and can't equip certain kinds of Artifact grade gear without a Cartel Store unlock. And I think TOR still has a limit on how many Flashpoints (dungeons) a F2P/Preffered can run a week. Not sure if you still have to at least go up to Preferred to even have a personal bank though.
Now you CAN kinda get around some of that even with a week long sub from a Refer a Friend link, but it can still be a bit rough for pure F2P at times.
Rattler, you are way out of date on that. SWTOR increased the credit cap on froob accounts and relaxed many other restrictions some 6 months ago.
SWTOR offers a monthly sub, with a generous stipend of CC, which can be increased by 20% if you add a security key and submit to the annoyances of 2FA
you've clearly never seen EVE or star citizen, then
I played EVE for years, but you don't have to pay RL money for ships in EVE. You can play at a very competitive level for nothing more than your monthly sub, and THAT can be paid for with in-game money, if you're good enough.
Rattler, you are way out of date on that. SWTOR increased the credit cap on froob accounts and relaxed many other restrictions some 6 months ago.
Actually I'm playing again now that its through Steam. The mount thing is still in effect, same as the XP stuff, as I'm bouncing between sub and Preferred based on available funds.
STO doesn't punish you the way SWTOR does (did?) if you don't subscribe, with locking out content, not letting you equip gear, not even let you match colors on your gear.
Still kinda does. F2P and Preferred still have a Credit cap of 1 mil, reduced XP gain after a certain point, can't use mounts as early as Subs, and can't equip certain kinds of Artifact grade gear without a Cartel Store unlock. And I think TOR still has a limit on how many Flashpoints (dungeons) a F2P/Preffered can run a week. Not sure if you still have to at least go up to Preferred to even have a personal bank though.
Now you CAN kinda get around some of that even with a week long sub from a Refer a Friend link, but it can still be a bit rough for pure F2P at times.
Rattler, you are way out of date on that. SWTOR increased the credit cap on froob accounts and relaxed many other restrictions some 6 months ago.
SWTOR offers a monthly sub, with a generous stipend of CC, which can be increased by 20% if you add a security key and submit to the annoyances of 2FA
He's still right about stuff...
The credit cap is a joke when almost anything decent costs well over a million and the only way to circumvent it is by paying money in one way or another, at least with STO you can save up some zen and have it removed
Still plenty of XP restrictions and I imagine all the end game restrictions like BG, dungeon, and raid limitations
Most of the things that aren't basic in game still require money to be spent
Resurrection of a thread just because I didn't know about the Legendary pack until literally just now, and there are ships in it I'd love to have. I hope they bring it back AND give the sale price again, or at least break it open and sell some of the ships individually. There are a few ships in here specifically that I'd love to have.
Some ships from the legendary bundle might eventually be available for individual purchase, but I can guarantee the Miracle Worker TOS Constitution and the Temporal Discovery Constitution will never be available outside of it.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Which makes about as much sense as replacing a statue of George Washington at the University of Washington, here in Washington State, with a statue of the Black Lives Matter Fist. What does that have to do with UW?
I swear some of these people take it WAY too far.
At work we've had to change any naming that uses "black" or "white", for example a "whitelist" is now an "allowed list."
Sad matter is that you could spend 500 and not get the lock box ship you want...you can either RNG, pay through the nose, or save up millions of dilithium. This is how the game works and is being ran by a guy who has a background in mobile gaming
All about doing the littlest effort and making the biggest profit
Ok, that's actually a show of arms.
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The term has to do with the way account books were done along with traditional average yearly expense/profit. First off, income was written in black ink while expenses or debts were written in red ink (which is also where the Black Widow's line "I have red in my ledger" in the Avengers movies comes from).
With the profit/expense ratios of the average business taking the money flowing in and out over the year and dividing it you come up with a number of days which zero out followed (hopefully anyway) by days that are pure profit and counting the traditional number of those on a calendar makes the first day of pure profit that Friday that is called "black friday".
Since by the title this thread is about a show of hands, I thought maybe this would be an good show of hands:
https://youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=OIVIDmuJZLI&feature=emb_logo
I mean, c'mon, have you seen the price of those bundles???
So you are against a KDF Legendary Bundle entirely?
Yes, you're right about that. Things have gone way too far.
Ridiculous. Simply ridiculous.
You and me both
I hope this is a joke. If it is, it's amusing.
Agreed, totally stupid, like tearing down statues and basically trying to erase history.
I wouldn't put it past people to try, either.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
― George Orwell, 1984
I have played a lot of different MMO's in the last 20 years, but never seen anything to compare to the avarice of STO, never seen any other game that tries to milk its players for such huge chunks of cash.
They get away with it, and in a capitalist economy there's no arguing with success. Having spoken that harshly, I am compelled by my sense of fairness to admit STO is also generous with free giveaways.
I seriously doubt that.
Look on the bright side, its not EVE, where money can be spent on a ship, only for it to be permadestroyed 5 minutes later.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
WoW and Final Fantasy make you pay a monthly sub, then pay for new content expansions. In STO everything you buy is optional not required. FF still sells mounts for $36, costumes for $18.
STO doesn't punish you the way SWTOR does (did?) if you don't subscribe, with locking out content, not letting you equip gear, not even letting you match colors on your gear. (Yes I know STO has some palette problems, that's a different issue.)
STO doesn't have the energy / oil / resource mechanics of mobile games where you can only play for so long in a day before you run out and have to pay them cash monies to keep playing.
STO is the most generous MMORPG for free players that I've played. Yes, they compensate for that by trying to sell you cosmetics for as much as the market will bear, but you're also not paying $120-$180 a year for a sub.
One year sub = cost of the Legendary Bundle.
Perhaps STO should "hide" its costs the way WoW and FF do? You pay $15 a month, but you get to rent all ships for as long as you pay? Or you get 1,500 zen credit instead of 500 like LTS?
Still kinda does. F2P and Preferred still have a Credit cap of 1 mil, reduced XP gain after a certain point, can't use mounts as early as Subs, and can't equip certain kinds of Artifact grade gear without a Cartel Store unlock. And I think TOR still has a limit on how many Flashpoints (dungeons) a F2P/Preffered can run a week. Not sure if you still have to at least go up to Preferred to even have a personal bank though.
Now you CAN kinda get around some of that even with a week long sub from a Refer a Friend link, but it can still be a bit rough for pure F2P at times.
Rattler, you are way out of date on that. SWTOR increased the credit cap on froob accounts and relaxed many other restrictions some 6 months ago.
SWTOR offers a monthly sub, with a generous stipend of CC, which can be increased by 20% if you add a security key and submit to the annoyances of 2FA
I played EVE for years, but you don't have to pay RL money for ships in EVE. You can play at a very competitive level for nothing more than your monthly sub, and THAT can be paid for with in-game money, if you're good enough.
Actually I'm playing again now that its through Steam. The mount thing is still in effect, same as the XP stuff, as I'm bouncing between sub and Preferred based on available funds.
He's still right about stuff...
The credit cap is a joke when almost anything decent costs well over a million and the only way to circumvent it is by paying money in one way or another, at least with STO you can save up some zen and have it removed
Still plenty of XP restrictions and I imagine all the end game restrictions like BG, dungeon, and raid limitations
Most of the things that aren't basic in game still require money to be spent