Absolutely. The show really lacked budget (and creativity), and boy, does it show.
On a funny sidenote, the ship looks as if it was built on top of a flattened, animatronic bluewhale.
"We need a fleet of advanced warships." - "We have saucers and nacelles at a surplus." - "Just slap them on those oversized animatronic whales!" - "Okydoky."
So if a main character's bum warmed the captain's seat it qualifies as a Promo Ship?
I'd say the Inquiry (silly name if not a Sci ship) looks like a kitbash, but can you kitbash things that are virtual?
That deflector and secondary hull looks like they grabbed an electric razor and glued a saucer and nacelles to it.
Probably they are running out of ideas for promo ships
Can't blame them though, because the showrunners didn't deliver anything great to use.
The Inquiry, and for that matter, Oh's copy-pasted doomsday-warbirds should just be in the C-store.
In my opinion if they dont have any new promo-worthy ship to release, better run the event without releasing a new one. There are plenty ships in that promo box many want. They shouldnt force-release something new every time they run the promo
So if a main character's bum warmed the captain's seat it qualifies as a Promo Ship?
I'd say the Inquiry (silly name if not a Sci ship) looks like a kitbash, but can you kitbash things that are virtual?
Of course it does.
That's why the next promo box will contain a real captain's chair. For $200, you can put the chair Picard sat in while listening to Soong, on your own ship!
But that's not all. A special package will be released to Mudd's store for those who don't want to buy a promo pack.
For just 14000 zen, you can get that same chair AND receive the bench Picard and Raffi sat on in a flashback as a bonus!
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Probably they are running out of ideas for promo ships
Can't blame them though, because the showrunners didn't deliver anything great to use.
The Inquiry, and for that matter, Oh's copy-pasted doomsday-warbirds should just be in the C-store.
In my opinion if they dont have any new promo-worthy ship to release, better run the event without releasing a new one. There are plenty ships in that promo box many want. They shouldnt force-release something new every time they run the promo
They should have never released promo ships in the first place.
If they didn't want Universe classes the size of ESD flying around everywhere, they should've just released a smaller version of the ship at regular C-store prices. More players would've bought them.
If necessary, they could've added a more expensive version that's bigger to the same store.
But anyway, it's not about size because the last two lock box ships were also made much bigger than the average ship. So I don't really see any good reason for this promo TRIBBLE to exist at all. The pricing is just ridiculous, certainly given the limitations (these being character-bound ships).
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well, I don't have to worry about any temptation to get this keeping me from saving up for the klingon legendary pack, the Vo'devwl did enough of that already.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Probably they are running out of ideas for promo ships
Can't blame them though, because the showrunners didn't deliver anything great to use.
The Inquiry, and for that matter, Oh's copy-pasted doomsday-warbirds should just be in the C-store.
In my opinion if they dont have any new promo-worthy ship to release, better run the event without releasing a new one. There are plenty ships in that promo box many want. They shouldnt force-release something new every time they run the promo
They should have never released promo ships in the first place.
If they didn't want Universe classes the size of ESD flying around everywhere, they should've just released a smaller version of the ship at regular C-store prices. More players would've bought them.
If necessary, they could've added a more expensive version that's bigger to the same store.
But anyway, it's not about size because the last two lock box ships were also made much bigger than the average ship. So I don't really see any good reason for this promo TRIBBLE to exist at all. The pricing is just ridiculous, certainly given the limitations (these being character-bound ships).
There's an argument for some I'd agree with, but not all. You're right about the Universe class and about size. Size doesn't influence on how powerful a ship is in this came, especially considering a tiny ship like the NX makes a mockery of the Universe class, and the Connie matches it's HP and firepower!!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
So if a main character's bum warmed the captain's seat it qualifies as a Promo Ship?
I'd say the Inquiry (silly name if not a Sci ship) looks like a kitbash, but can you kitbash things that are virtual?
That deflector and secondary hull looks like they grabbed an electric razor and glued a saucer and nacelles to it.
That's a T5 Luna-class Science Reconnaissance Vessel, available for free at level 40.
As for the massed fleet of all one type of starship, according to Commander Claude Berube, assistant professor of history at the US Naval Academy and director of the USNA museum, that all makes perfect sense, and is exactly what Starfleet should have done under the circumstances.
I'd be interested to know who published these "rules" on what is and is not a "promo ship". Far as I've ever been able to tell, the difference is that Cryptic decided to put certain ships in lockboxes, others in the Lobi store, and others in the C-Store, at their own whim. The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
I'd be interested to know who published these "rules" on what is and is not a "promo ship". Far as I've ever been able to tell, the difference is that Cryptic decided to put certain ships in lockboxes, others in the Lobi store, and others in the C-Store, at their own whim. The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
At this point I think CBS is just letting them do whatever they think will make the most money. Of course, we both know they will never actually say that and probably want to leave us guessing whether it was Cryptic's own choice or some kind of "decree" from CBS that they supposedly had no control over.
That's a T5 Luna-class Science Reconnaissance Vessel, available for free at level 40.
As for the massed fleet of all one type of starship, according to Commander Claude Berube, assistant professor of history at the US Naval Academy and director of the USNA museum, that all makes perfect sense, and is exactly what Starfleet should have done under the circumstances.
I'd be interested to know who published these "rules" on what is and is not a "promo ship". Far as I've ever been able to tell, the difference is that Cryptic decided to put certain ships in lockboxes, others in the Lobi store, and others in the C-Store, at their own whim. The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
I agree, they needed to get fast, only ships of the same tipe have the same capabilities, so i'm not that disturbed by that..
I'd be interested to know who published these "rules" on what is and is not a "promo ship". Far as I've ever been able to tell, the difference is that Cryptic decided to put certain ships in lockboxes, others in the Lobi store, and others in the C-Store, at their own whim. The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
At this point I think CBS is just letting them do whatever they think will make the most money. Of course, we both know they will never actually say that and probably want to leave us guessing whether it was Cryptic's own choice or some kind of "decree" from CBS that they supposedly had no control over.
It should have been a lobi ship, by all means, it's not a terrible great ship, and it's not something that a lot of people are goin to get, i think, i mean, there are better ships in the infinity box, way better ones, that in case you want to sell them, would amount for far more than this ship.. i would get it.. but i like to have all variants of the ships i like, so...
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If I ever got that ship I would probably use the Avenger hull because at least it looks like it as a deflector dish.
Not really impressed with the trait or console. For me its a Meh. Probably nice to have but not something I'll go out of my way to get. I'll keep slowly working on my D7.
The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
I always figured it was because the Kelvin Connie was a hero ship and veteran of 2 movies at that point, whereas the Vengeance was a villian ship that was only in one. *shrug*
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> Wouldn't surprise me. We know CBS slaps random decrees on a lot of things.
IDK, it seems like your talking about "the old days" of STO. These days it seems more like "anything goes"; any timeline, any ship, any uniform, any weapon etc; regardless of whether it "makes sense" in the game's storyline or not.
Or do you have any recent examples of dev statements about recent CBS decrees?
Nah, he is just trying to look for any excuse to not blame the precious Devs
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Can you not please? I think we all get you two don't get along. Don't have to spotlight it every chance you get. You're already doing that in another thread.
1: Wait until season One of the most recent show ends and then create a thread in Galatic News Network (back in March) asking the question "What do you most want to see from Picard?"
And that's why creators should not make polls via social media. It backfires very hard 99% of the time.
The ship itself is... fine I guess. The ingame-model looks good, but first of all, it looks like a better Imperial-class-skin, second, it's a very bland and very basic design. It's C-store-material at best.
And who had the idea to tack on a third-piece bonus for the old battlecruiser-set? Couldn't you have made this a legendary battlecruiser instead? Even with skins for the KDF and RR-versions?
Backfired on who? Only US, I'd say. Again - I really don't think that anyone who asked for ships from Picard was actually hoping they'd be Infinity Promotion ships.
As for the ship itself...... yeah, to be honest the general opinion of the class, when first seen, was that it was a cheap, quickly thrown together, rush job. The STO model naturally reflects that, as can be seen in the images in this link: https://imgur.com/a/mNwv1Ge
I mean, what the heck is this mess?:
Is that supposed to be a deflector? It just looks like whoever designed the ship decided not to bother since that part of the ship wouldn't be visible in the episode and lost interest!
I was not that impressed when I saw it in Picard (for a second I even thought it is the STO battlecruiser); but that thing up there looks plain "I gave up halfway" ugly.
1: Wait until season One of the most recent show ends and then create a thread in Galatic News Network (back in March) asking the question "What do you most want to see from Picard?"
And that's why creators should not make polls via social media. It backfires very hard 99% of the time.
The ship itself is... fine I guess. The ingame-model looks good, but first of all, it looks like a better Imperial-class-skin, second, it's a very bland and very basic design. It's C-store-material at best.
And who had the idea to tack on a third-piece bonus for the old battlecruiser-set? Couldn't you have made this a legendary battlecruiser instead? Even with skins for the KDF and RR-versions?
Backfired on who? Only US, I'd say. Again - I really don't think that anyone who asked for ships from Picard was actually hoping they'd be Infinity Promotion ships.
As for the ship itself...... yeah, to be honest the general opinion of the class, when first seen, was that it was a cheap, quickly thrown together, rush job. The STO model naturally reflects that, as can be seen in the images in this link: https://imgur.com/a/mNwv1Ge
I mean, what the heck is this mess?:
Is that supposed to be a deflector? It just looks like whoever designed the ship decided not to bother since that part of the ship wouldn't be visible in the episode and lost interest!
I was not that impressed when I saw it in Picard (for a second I even thought it is the STO battlecruiser); but that thing up there looks plain "I gave up halfway" ugly.
It seems Cryptic's ratio of gamble ships to store ships is heavily in favor of the gambling lately minus the Legend bundle.
I don't think it is a terrible ship, but unless the stats are really good I wouldn't consider this on the tier of Promo but then again nor did I think that Franklin was Promo worthy too.
I'd be more impressed if Cryptic spent time to fix the lag & some old-time bugs in the game for the next 3 months than keep popping out gamble ships every 3/4 months.
Even the gambling is becoming less & less attractive since Cryptic dwindles down the Infinity big ticket items but keeps the cost high for Loot boxes, Promo packs, & Phoenixes I think are now just neglected.
Heck, is Cryptic even still adding new ships or just redone paint jobs to the Lobi store for when you lose on this Promo pack you earn enough lobi to buy a ship?
A broken laggy game with limited end-game content now promoting standard starfleet ships as promo box material, ha!
Of course it would have a highly desirable ship console that I bet is ship universal given the other two became that way unchracteristically, and some really good starship trait.
I bet further down the line there will be an inferior version of the ship for 6,000 zen limited time sale bundled with some 'mistakenly advertised keys' that will be omitted, and other minor things to try to justify more than double the price for a single C-Store ship.
Again, this game does not have the gameplay, the polish, a viable network experience, or a proper end-game material to justify these gamble rates and prices.
Not only that but the trait too, allows you to chain EptW and EptS for a ton of haste...only for Feds and Phaser is already pretty dominate. Nice to know that even in "The Year of the Klingon" KDF will still get shafted!
It seems Cryptic's ratio of gamble ships to store ships is heavily in favor of the gambling lately minus the Legend bundle.
I don't think it is a terrible ship, but unless the stats are really good I wouldn't consider this on the tier of Promo but then again nor did I think that Franklin was Promo worthy too.
I'd be more impressed if Cryptic spent time to fix the lag & some old-time bugs in the game for the next 3 months than keep popping out gamble ships every 3/4 months.
Even the gambling is becoming less & less attractive since Cryptic dwindles down the Infinity big ticket items but keeps the cost high for Loot boxes, Promo packs, & Phoenixes I think are now just neglected.
Heck, is Cryptic even still adding new ships or just redone paint jobs to the Lobi store for when you lose on this Promo pack you earn enough lobi to buy a ship?
Nope...the only ships added to the lobi store in almost 2 years have only been T6 versions of T5 lobi ships...last time it saw a original ship was back when it was the Hurq lockbox
Obviously another way to cut costs and get people to spend more money...no wonder lock box ships are pushing 3 quarters of a billion on the exchange....now even lobi has little value and more and more the only thing worth it in a lock back is the grand prize itself.
I've been saying that for Months. The only Ships going into the Lobi Store at this stage is T6 versions of T5 Lobi Store Ships (2 left) and special Weekend sales of one Promotion Ship (next culprit still to be determined) for 960 Lobi.
They also have to provide a T6 treatment to a former Promotion Ship, the Voth Bulwark. Now that would be added to the Infinity Promotion Box and be an eventual candidate for the Lobi Store Crossover Weekend Sale.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
A broken laggy game with limited end-game content now promoting standard starfleet ships as promo box material, ha!
Of course it would have a highly desirable ship console that I bet is ship universal given the other two became that way unchracteristically, and some really good starship trait.
I bet further down the line there will be an inferior version of the ship for 6,000 zen limited time sale bundled with some 'mistakenly advertised keys' that will be omitted, and other minor things to try to justify more than double the price for a single C-Store ship.
Again, this game does not have the gameplay, the polish, a viable network experience, or a proper end-game material to justify these gamble rates and prices.
Not only that but the trait too, allows you to chain EptW and EptS for a ton of haste...only for Feds and Phaser is already pretty dominate. Nice to know that even in "The Year of the Klingon" KDF will still get shafted!
Well, there are only so many starship traits you can have active at once.
Anyone capable of buying a promo ship just for the trait, will likely have already invested heavily in his build. So I don't think the trait by itself will matter much.
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I've been saying that for Months. The only Ships going into the Lobi Store at this stage is T6 versions of T5 Lobi Store Ships (2 left) and special Weekend sales of one Promotion Ship (next culprit still to be determined) for 960 Lobi.
They also have to provide a T6 treatment to a former Promotion Ship, the Voth Bulwark. Now that would be added to the Infinity Promotion Box and be an eventual candidate for the Lobi Store Crossover Weekend Sale.
If/when they do add it my guess it will be another R&D promotion like the T5 version was...they already did it with the T6 bug ship, you can bet they will do it with the Bulwark too.
It seems Cryptic's ratio of gamble ships to store ships is heavily in favor of the gambling lately minus the Legend bundle.
I don't think it is a terrible ship, but unless the stats are really good I wouldn't consider this on the tier of Promo but then again nor did I think that Franklin was Promo worthy too.
I'd be more impressed if Cryptic spent time to fix the lag & some old-time bugs in the game for the next 3 months than keep popping out gamble ships every 3/4 months.
Even the gambling is becoming less & less attractive since Cryptic dwindles down the Infinity big ticket items but keeps the cost high for Loot boxes, Promo packs, & Phoenixes I think are now just neglected.
Heck, is Cryptic even still adding new ships or just redone paint jobs to the Lobi store for when you lose on this Promo pack you earn enough lobi to buy a ship?
Nope...the only ships added to the lobi store in almost 2 years have only been T6 versions of T5 lobi ships...last time it saw a original ship was back when it was the Hurq lockbox
Obviously another way to cut costs and get people to spend more money...no wonder lock box ships are pushing 3 quarters of a billion on the exchange....now even lobi has little value and more and more the only thing worth it in a lock back is the grand prize itself.
To be fair, I think most of the ships have little value. When I open boxes nowadays, I'm hoping to get some of the other things like traits and consoles. Not so much the lobi or the ship. Those would just be a nice bonus.
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Absolutely. The show really lacked budget (and creativity), and boy, does it show.
On a funny sidenote, the ship looks as if it was built on top of a flattened, animatronic bluewhale.
"We need a fleet of advanced warships." - "We have saucers and nacelles at a surplus." - "Just slap them on those oversized animatronic whales!" - "Okydoky."
I'd say the Inquiry (silly name if not a Sci ship) looks like a kitbash, but can you kitbash things that are virtual?
That deflector and secondary hull looks like they grabbed an electric razor and glued a saucer and nacelles to it.
Last interesting ships in promo were DSC D7 and Constitution
Seeing as they made the vaadwaur dread long ago maybe they could make a voth citadel as next, lol
Can't blame them though, because the showrunners didn't deliver anything great to use.
The Inquiry, and for that matter, Oh's copy-pasted doomsday-warbirds should just be in the C-store.
In my opinion if they dont have any new promo-worthy ship to release, better run the event without releasing a new one. There are plenty ships in that promo box many want. They shouldnt force-release something new every time they run the promo
Of course it does.
That's why the next promo box will contain a real captain's chair. For $200, you can put the chair Picard sat in while listening to Soong, on your own ship!
But that's not all. A special package will be released to Mudd's store for those who don't want to buy a promo pack.
For just 14000 zen, you can get that same chair AND receive the bench Picard and Raffi sat on in a flashback as a bonus!
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
They should have never released promo ships in the first place.
If they didn't want Universe classes the size of ESD flying around everywhere, they should've just released a smaller version of the ship at regular C-store prices. More players would've bought them.
If necessary, they could've added a more expensive version that's bigger to the same store.
But anyway, it's not about size because the last two lock box ships were also made much bigger than the average ship. So I don't really see any good reason for this promo TRIBBLE to exist at all. The pricing is just ridiculous, certainly given the limitations (these being character-bound ships).
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
There's an argument for some I'd agree with, but not all. You're right about the Universe class and about size. Size doesn't influence on how powerful a ship is in this came, especially considering a tiny ship like the NX makes a mockery of the Universe class, and the Connie matches it's HP and firepower!!
That would honor the ST tradition of kitbashing
As for the massed fleet of all one type of starship, according to Commander Claude Berube, assistant professor of history at the US Naval Academy and director of the USNA museum, that all makes perfect sense, and is exactly what Starfleet should have done under the circumstances.
I'd be interested to know who published these "rules" on what is and is not a "promo ship". Far as I've ever been able to tell, the difference is that Cryptic decided to put certain ships in lockboxes, others in the Lobi store, and others in the C-Store, at their own whim. The Vengeance, for instance, is a Lobi ship, while the Kelvin Connie is lockbox, even though both come from the same source.
At this point I think CBS is just letting them do whatever they think will make the most money. Of course, we both know they will never actually say that and probably want to leave us guessing whether it was Cryptic's own choice or some kind of "decree" from CBS that they supposedly had no control over.
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I agree, they needed to get fast, only ships of the same tipe have the same capabilities, so i'm not that disturbed by that..
It should have been a lobi ship, by all means, it's not a terrible great ship, and it's not something that a lot of people are goin to get, i think, i mean, there are better ships in the infinity box, way better ones, that in case you want to sell them, would amount for far more than this ship.. i would get it.. but i like to have all variants of the ships i like, so...
Not really impressed with the trait or console. For me its a Meh. Probably nice to have but not something I'll go out of my way to get. I'll keep slowly working on my D7.
I always figured it was because the Kelvin Connie was a hero ship and veteran of 2 movies at that point, whereas the Vengeance was a villian ship that was only in one. *shrug*
Nah, he is just trying to look for any excuse to not blame the precious Devs
I was not that impressed when I saw it in Picard (for a second I even thought it is the STO battlecruiser); but that thing up there looks plain "I gave up halfway" ugly.
Somehow it reminds me of something else:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=To_RJ_mPNqM&t=1m32s
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I don't think it is a terrible ship, but unless the stats are really good I wouldn't consider this on the tier of Promo but then again nor did I think that Franklin was Promo worthy too.
I'd be more impressed if Cryptic spent time to fix the lag & some old-time bugs in the game for the next 3 months than keep popping out gamble ships every 3/4 months.
Even the gambling is becoming less & less attractive since Cryptic dwindles down the Infinity big ticket items but keeps the cost high for Loot boxes, Promo packs, & Phoenixes I think are now just neglected.
Heck, is Cryptic even still adding new ships or just redone paint jobs to the Lobi store for when you lose on this Promo pack you earn enough lobi to buy a ship?
Not only that but the trait too, allows you to chain EptW and EptS for a ton of haste...only for Feds and Phaser is already pretty dominate. Nice to know that even in "The Year of the Klingon" KDF will still get shafted!
Nope...the only ships added to the lobi store in almost 2 years have only been T6 versions of T5 lobi ships...last time it saw a original ship was back when it was the Hurq lockbox
Obviously another way to cut costs and get people to spend more money...no wonder lock box ships are pushing 3 quarters of a billion on the exchange....now even lobi has little value and more and more the only thing worth it in a lock back is the grand prize itself.
They also have to provide a T6 treatment to a former Promotion Ship, the Voth Bulwark. Now that would be added to the Infinity Promotion Box and be an eventual candidate for the Lobi Store Crossover Weekend Sale.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Well, there are only so many starship traits you can have active at once.
Anyone capable of buying a promo ship just for the trait, will likely have already invested heavily in his build. So I don't think the trait by itself will matter much.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
If/when they do add it my guess it will be another R&D promotion like the T5 version was...they already did it with the T6 bug ship, you can bet they will do it with the Bulwark too.
To be fair, I think most of the ships have little value. When I open boxes nowadays, I'm hoping to get some of the other things like traits and consoles. Not so much the lobi or the ship. Those would just be a nice bonus.
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