My point, before people went off on this tangent, was that the Klingon PC is as "black hat" as Cryptic is willing to write, and even that's been too much for some well-respected players to condone.
As for this bit...
Garak's conveniently neglecting the part where the Cardassian Empire is a signatory to the Seldonis IV Convention (TNG: "Chain of Command"), so even they have rules. But then again, Garak's former occupation pretty much revolved around subverting rules, so I can appreciate his perspective.
Except not lot of them bother following UFP treaty. Picard demanded to his jailer that he should follow the Seldonis IV Convention and they ignored and tortured him. The Klingons broke their treaty not once but twice. Federation will always try and force their human values and morals onto others and they break their own prime directive more times than not. Just like real life the the practice of it applies only when it suits them.
UFP favourite diplomacy is 'gunboat diplomacy' and it appears lot often in-game too.
"Law always chooses sides on the basis of enforcement power. Morality and legal niceties have little to do with it when the real question is: Who has the clout?" - Bene Gesserit: Dune.
Going little off-topic but if we listened to all those well-respected players we would have very little fighting games of any kind. Those well-respected players conveniently forgot about all the Klingons they had to kill but guess they can justify it because those Klingons don't value human ideals and are subhuman creatures that deserve to die because they're violent barbarian savages that way we can justify in killing them. The game very rarely allows feds to disable enemy vessels at all.
Every battle normally goes like this:
Also how any well-respected player can play the Fed side and be wilfully ignorant of the amount of massacre that happens while playing a federation character is beyond me. I am fine with blowing up everyone left, right and centre as Fed because my role model is W̶a̶r̶l̶o̶r̶d̶ Janeway, in her honour I kill indiscriminately whenever something crosses my path because that is what she would do too!
That was full on exterminatus, "Some may question your right to destroy ten billion people. Those who understand know that you have no right to let them live."
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
That was full on exterminatus, "Some may question your right to destroy ten billion people. Those who understand know that you have no right to let them live."
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@ambassadorkael#6946 Can you please pass on the request again of people begging for terran empire faction or more importantly a I.S.S. prefix. Every year people request one and it be great to have something tied in with the IDW mirror comics this year in December. Never seems to be mentioned on Ten Forward Weekly.
Ant pincer decals would also be nice or some sort of MU vanity shield with the Terran logo on the hull.
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I'd say the Terran Empire is not entirely evil, I'd put it in that morally grey area given the nature of their universe. Any weakness being invitation to subjugation and/or death so they do these things out of necessity for their own survival.
Maybe there are some good people there since not all Terrans would be the monsters shown in canon.
So a Terran Empire faction on those lines would make sense.
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> @somtaawkhar said: > (Quote) > Kael doesn't need to pass on anything. > > Cryptic has mentioned several times they are aware people want playable Terrans, but said it wont happen. As for the ISS prefix, they have mentioned that the reason why it isn't on more ship is because it has to be manually added to every ship, which makes its a very time consuming task.
Doesn't need to pass on anything?
Try and read that again and think this time. There is a big difference between a request and a demand. Kael passes on things to the team meetings. Don't start bossing around on what I should ask them. I've already had my fill of 3 pages of loonies trying to gatekeep.
They have never said anything of the such. Where are your sources? Links & quotations please.
I.S.S. Prefix is a time consuming task? How did you come to that conclusion? It is one letter! Not a entire re-texture working of a brand new model.
Cite your sources next time.
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My experience has been that when most players say they want to play a bad guy, what they really mean is they want to play an amusingly antisocial jerk, not a genuinely evil person.
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My point, before people went off on this tangent, was that the Klingon PC is as "black hat" as Cryptic is willing to write, and even that's been too much for some well-respected players to condone.
As for this bit...
Garak's conveniently neglecting the part where the Cardassian Empire is a signatory to the Seldonis IV Convention (TNG: "Chain of Command"), so even they have rules. But then again, Garak's former occupation pretty much revolved around subverting rules, so I can appreciate his perspective.
Except not lot of them bother following UFP treaty. Picard demanded to his jailer that he should follow the Seldonis IV Convention and they ignored and tortured him. The Klingons broke their treaty not once but twice. Federation will always try and force their human values and morals onto others and they break their own prime directive more times than not. Just like real life the the practice of it applies only when it suits them.
The Federation disavowed Picard's actions for strategic reasons, which meant he was not a prisoner of war, but an unlawful combatant, and thus not subject to the Convention. That was explained explicitly.
Which was never presented as a good thing.
You're deliberately misrepresenting the Prime Directive. It was never supposed to be a hard-and-fast rule, it was intended as an anti-imperialist caution. You're allowed to break it, but you'd better have a damn good reason for doing so. You had better be able to prove that the consequences for not breaking it were significantly worse. Mere "national security" doesn't cut it: it's that exact kind of abuse that the PD exists to prevent.
Stop wasting my time with these dishonest "arguments".
UFP favourite diplomacy is 'gunboat diplomacy' and it appears lot often in-game too.
"Law always chooses sides on the basis of enforcement power. Morality and legal niceties have little to do with it when the real question is: Who has the clout?" - Bene Gesserit: Dune.
Going little off-topic but if we listened to all those well-respected players we would have very little fighting games of any kind. Those well-respected players conveniently forgot about all the Klingons they had to kill but guess they can justify it because those Klingons don't value human ideals and are subhuman creatures that deserve to die because they're violent barbarian savages that way we can justify in killing them. The game very rarely allows feds to disable enemy vessels at all.
As I recall, the Klingons picked that fight. And it was J'mpok wanted to make a name for himself; the Undine were nothing more than a convenient excuse. I don't generally start fights, but if somebody starts shooting at me, I'm for damn sure gonna shoot back.
Your attitude is kind of like the Minbari in B5 getting it in their heads to exterminate humanity, and then getting all pissy because John Sheridan dared to actually succeed at destroying one of their ships... a ship which was returning to massacre survivors of a ship it had already disabled and left for dead when they sent a distress signal. (Yes, Sheridan lured them in. It wouldn't have been effective bait had that not been the Minbaris' previously demonstrated intention.)
I don't care what twisted psychobabble you try to use to justify yourself. Killing in self-defense is not murder.
As for the Warship Voyager nonsense. I'll be the first to pillory Janeway for her many real crimes, but was in-universe propaganda. It never happened.
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> @somtaawkhar said:
> (Quote)
> Kael doesn't need to pass on anything.
>
> Cryptic has mentioned several times they are aware people want playable Terrans, but said it wont happen. As for the ISS prefix, they have mentioned that the reason why it isn't on more ship is because it has to be manually added to every ship, which makes its a very time consuming task.
Doesn't need to pass on anything?
Try and read that again and think this time. There is a big difference between a request and a demand. Kael passes on things to the team meetings. Don't start bossing around on what I should ask them. I've already had my fill of 3 pages of loonies trying to gatekeep.
They have never said anything of the such. Where are your sources? Links & quotations please.
I.S.S. Prefix is a time consuming task? How did you come to that conclusion? It is one letter! Not a entire re-texture working of a brand new model.
Cite your sources next time.
Actually, this is quite true. It has been mentioned during livestream that Cryptic will not do a "bad guy" Faction, i.e. no Mirror Universe Factions, and "Renegades Regret" was cited as a reason for that. Also, yes, it has also been mentioned that adding I.S.S. and other MU prefixes has to be done to each ship individually, so it would be a time consuming process. I feel your pain on this second request, as I periodically ask Thomas about MU ship customization with regards to the prefixes and paint schemes. But I continue to ask. Long live the Terran Empire!
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@badmoonrisen oh well I guess it is fruitless atm. I'll have to watch all the live streams again as I missed that but if anyone can save time to tell me which stream video it was it would be much appreciated. At least I see it's discussed monthly on Star Trek subreddit which shows that there is enough people that are interested in it. I am taking it as divine sign that they're still interested enough to not put it all in F.C.T. Thanks for asking Thomas occasionally about getting them included it, it never hurts to ask sometimes.
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hell I already do my own Terran Empire stuff with my Prime character XD and I'm all for the ISS prefix and Terran paint jobs on starship, put that in the CStore and I can promise you I will give you money XD
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Y'know, guys, if you're that hot to praise Emperors and visit Exterminatus on planets, there are plenty of Games Workshop outlets that will happily host W40K games for you. It's really not necessary to use that as an overlay for every game.
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Y'know, guys, if you're that hot to praise Emperors and visit Exterminatus on planets, there are plenty of Games Workshop outlets that will happily host W40K games for you. It's really not necessary to use that as an overlay for every game.
It just a bit of fun. Both empires are imperialistic in nature so it only natural to reference one another.
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The Terran Empire is tame compared to the Imperium of Man, one being more extreme than the other plus as Terranempire said, it's a bit of fun
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
[*] The Federation disavowed Picard's actions for strategic reasons, which meant he was not a prisoner of war, but an unlawful combatant, and thus not subject to the Convention. That was explained explicitly.
Well you can thank Admiral B*tchayev for that. It wouldn't matter to the Cardassians. They would have tortured him regardless. Like the Klingons they have their own moral code and laws and will bend them just like the Federation does for strategic reasons.
[*] You're deliberately misrepresenting the Prime Directive. It was never supposed to be a hard-and-fast rule, it was intended as an anti-imperialist caution. You're allowed to break it, but you'd better have a damn good reason for doing so. You had better be able to prove that the consequences for not breaking it were significantly worse. Mere "national security" doesn't cut it: it's that exact kind of abuse that the PD exists to prevent.
Stop wasting my time with these dishonest "arguments".
Having a different POV isn't "dishonest", but I thank you for not calling it all drivel at least. Oh and nobody is wasting your time. You chose to partake in the conversation. Unless someone has a phaser placed at your head you can discontinue at any time just like me.
As I recall, the Klingons picked that fight. And it was J'mpok wanted to make a name for himself; the Undine were nothing more than a convenient excuse. I don't generally start fights, but if somebody starts shooting at me, I'm for damn sure gonna shoot back.
Doesn't matter who started the fight. The 'good' Federation should have used their famous diplomacy. I guess the Klingons didn't buy into it this time. I am surprised you would shoot back though. I thought you would want to take the diplomatic route first. You know like firing a warning shot across their bow? Ofc the game doesn't let you do that. At best you'd be lucky to disable their ship without causing a warp core breach.
My experience has been that when most players say they want to play a bad guy, what they really mean is they want to play an amusingly antisocial jerk, not a genuinely evil person.
Ah yes. The classic "Evil is a D***k" argument to discourage others that may want to play something besides the perfect good paladin in the group. I have had bad experiences no matter what alignment the character is. You find jerks everyday and don't have to be evil to do it. I am more asocial by the way.
This isn't about role playing with other players so it shouldn't affect the "well-respected" players other than they won't be comfortable to play it. I wasn't 'comfortable' playing as a drug-addicted Jem'hadar junkie. I would prefer to play as the intelligent Vorta that uses guile.
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I think the Klingons and Terrans are close enough on the black hat scale in what they do in both the shows and games. I am not a personal fan of the Disco Klingons but apparently they eat other sentient beings, just like how most Terrans eat Kelpiens. Honestly I would rather have the space barbie (material ship pattern skins and i.s.s. prefix) rather than having to create another Fed mirror faction because in the end they would run out of unique being the bad guy missions. Like the Klingons you may start out slaughtering the Federation and their allies only to switch sides and be on the same team. But it would certainly be fun if they did do it even if I had to start from scratch.
Not a necessarily a sign of being a "black hat," to consume sentient or sapient beings.
One, the forum has a specific rule regarding gatekeeping: you do not get to dictate to other people how they can and can't play the game beyond sportsmanship.
Two, we're not getting an official faction more "black hat" than what the Klingons get up to in their leveling missions; that was settled when the Romulan Republic was introduced.
We already have. And it was settled with the formation of this Grand Galactic Alliance that everyone is part of now, which has done worse. Siding with zombie-makers that carpetbag another race. Wiping out a race from a timeline. Meddling with time to get what they want. All just as bad, if not worse than the Klingon level-up missions.
Mirror Leeta, Mirror Tilly, and some other "villains" could definitely be written better. Let them achieve and hold actual, tangible objectives for a time if not permanently, rather than having us always putting them over our knee and painting the back porches red with ease. In game. Through episodes. Or through a new battlezone. An arc where there's no happy ending, because the Grand Galactic Alliance went and Kael'd things up not only in the progression, but also at the end. Rather than telling via blogs or some goofy after action report. The Iconians snuffed out the High Council, blew up the Preservers, killed Kahless. These all had some meaning. It made the chase all the more appreciated(until the targshit ending).
Right now, a lot of the enemies are a joke that has hit bad decay. A joke that generates "go home heat," rather than "heel heat."
just barely made it. rule is 30 days or roughly one month. final day would have been tomorrow, and friday would have put it outright into necro territory.
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A solution could be a terrain mini faction that auto sides with kdf similar to how tos and dsc allies with modern fed. Then faction specific dialogue can be drip fed into a new terrain empire arc in the same vain.
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That was full on exterminatus,
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Ant pincer decals would also be nice or some sort of MU vanity shield with the Terran logo on the hull.
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Maybe there are some good people there since not all Terrans would be the monsters shown in canon.
So a Terran Empire faction on those lines would make sense.
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> (Quote)
> Kael doesn't need to pass on anything.
>
> Cryptic has mentioned several times they are aware people want playable Terrans, but said it wont happen. As for the ISS prefix, they have mentioned that the reason why it isn't on more ship is because it has to be manually added to every ship, which makes its a very time consuming task.
Doesn't need to pass on anything?
Try and read that again and think this time. There is a big difference between a request and a demand. Kael passes on things to the team meetings. Don't start bossing around on what I should ask them. I've already had my fill of 3 pages of loonies trying to gatekeep.
They have never said anything of the such. Where are your sources? Links & quotations please.
I.S.S. Prefix is a time consuming task? How did you come to that conclusion? It is one letter! Not a entire re-texture working of a brand new model.
Cite your sources next time.
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- The Federation disavowed Picard's actions for strategic reasons, which meant he was not a prisoner of war, but an unlawful combatant, and thus not subject to the Convention. That was explained explicitly.
- Which was never presented as a good thing.
- You're deliberately misrepresenting the Prime Directive. It was never supposed to be a hard-and-fast rule, it was intended as an anti-imperialist caution. You're allowed to break it, but you'd better have a damn good reason for doing so. You had better be able to prove that the consequences for not breaking it were significantly worse. Mere "national security" doesn't cut it: it's that exact kind of abuse that the PD exists to prevent.
Stop wasting my time with these dishonest "arguments".As I recall, the Klingons picked that fight. And it was J'mpok wanted to make a name for himself; the Undine were nothing more than a convenient excuse. I don't generally start fights, but if somebody starts shooting at me, I'm for damn sure gonna shoot back.
Your attitude is kind of like the Minbari in B5 getting it in their heads to exterminate humanity, and then getting all pissy because John Sheridan dared to actually succeed at destroying one of their ships... a ship which was returning to massacre survivors of a ship it had already disabled and left for dead when they sent a distress signal. (Yes, Sheridan lured them in. It wouldn't have been effective bait had that not been the Minbaris' previously demonstrated intention.)
I don't care what twisted psychobabble you try to use to justify yourself. Killing in self-defense is not murder.
As for the Warship Voyager nonsense. I'll be the first to pillory Janeway for her many real crimes, but was in-universe propaganda. It never happened.
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Actually, this is quite true. It has been mentioned during livestream that Cryptic will not do a "bad guy" Faction, i.e. no Mirror Universe Factions, and "Renegades Regret" was cited as a reason for that. Also, yes, it has also been mentioned that adding I.S.S. and other MU prefixes has to be done to each ship individually, so it would be a time consuming process. I feel your pain on this second request, as I periodically ask Thomas about MU ship customization with regards to the prefixes and paint schemes. But I continue to ask. Long live the Terran Empire!
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Long live the Empire!
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*sprays mark with water* Bad, Mark! BAD!
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It just a bit of fun. Both empires are imperialistic in nature so it only natural to reference one another.
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Well you can thank Admiral B*tchayev for that. It wouldn't matter to the Cardassians. They would have tortured him regardless. Like the Klingons they have their own moral code and laws and will bend them just like the Federation does for strategic reasons.
Hey, I am just thinking what Spock was thinking
Having a different POV isn't "dishonest", but I thank you for not calling it all drivel at least. Oh and nobody is wasting your time. You chose to partake in the conversation. Unless someone has a phaser placed at your head you can discontinue at any time just like me.
Doesn't matter who started the fight. The 'good' Federation should have used their famous diplomacy. I guess the Klingons didn't buy into it this time. I am surprised you would shoot back though. I thought you would want to take the diplomatic route first. You know like firing a warning shot across their bow? Ofc the game doesn't let you do that. At best you'd be lucky to disable their ship without causing a warp core breach.
Usually that is for courts and tribunals to determine but what do I know. I AM 'TWISTED'
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Ah yes. The classic "Evil is a D***k" argument to discourage others that may want to play something besides the perfect good paladin in the group. I have had bad experiences no matter what alignment the character is. You find jerks everyday and don't have to be evil to do it. I am more asocial by the way.
This isn't about role playing with other players so it shouldn't affect the "well-respected" players other than they won't be comfortable to play it. I wasn't 'comfortable' playing as a drug-addicted Jem'hadar junkie. I would prefer to play as the intelligent Vorta that uses guile.
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Not a necessarily a sign of being a "black hat," to consume sentient or sapient beings.
We already have. And it was settled with the formation of this Grand Galactic Alliance that everyone is part of now, which has done worse. Siding with zombie-makers that carpetbag another race. Wiping out a race from a timeline. Meddling with time to get what they want. All just as bad, if not worse than the Klingon level-up missions.
Mirror Leeta, Mirror Tilly, and some other "villains" could definitely be written better. Let them achieve and hold actual, tangible objectives for a time if not permanently, rather than having us always putting them over our knee and painting the back porches red with ease. In game. Through episodes. Or through a new battlezone. An arc where there's no happy ending, because the Grand Galactic Alliance went and Kael'd things up not only in the progression, but also at the end. Rather than telling via blogs or some goofy after action report. The Iconians snuffed out the High Council, blew up the Preservers, killed Kahless. These all had some meaning. It made the chase all the more appreciated(until the targshit ending).
Right now, a lot of the enemies are a joke that has hit bad decay. A joke that generates "go home heat," rather than "heel heat."
just barely made it. rule is 30 days or roughly one month. final day would have been tomorrow, and friday would have put it outright into necro territory.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Time zones are a thing dude. Was 8:40 pm eastern time for me when I made that ruling. Below is a link to the Community guidelines.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1191393/perfect-world-entertainment-community-rules-and-policies
Please refer to the Spamming section just above the creating duplicates line in regards to length of time required to be a necro. The thread was not past the 30 days. If you wish to contest this ruling you are free to take it up with one of my cohorts if you wish a second opinion, or contact our boss Ambassador Kael if you wish to appeal.
Star Trek Online volunteer Community Moderator
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'