Star Trek Online: Awakening Appears September 10th!

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  • salvation4
    salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    can cryptic stop cracking jokes and start making some super Borg that finally reach earth in force with some kickass tactical cubes???
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  • startrekron
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    duasyn wrote: »
    Now if we can just wrap up this storyline and get back to the aborted Jemmy/Hur'q one we were in the middle of...
    The Hur'q/Jem'Hadar storyline wasn't aborted. It ended,.

    Cryptic has even confirmed, several times now, that they were planning to move onto the "Mirror Leeta returns" story, that would end Leeta's overall arc, before they switched to Discovery. The Hur'q stuff is as complete as it was always designed to be.

    That may be what was claimed but I don't believe it. BY the way, bring back the Foundry.
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  • rattler2
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    Someone probably mentioned it, but considering the Discoverse's hologram tech (which was one of those things that I guess was deemed to dangerous for public knowledge/aka excuse for using tech that was not available at the time), I'd say that the Stamets Hologram is from that time, rather than a new construct.

    Probably doesn't need 29th Century tech, like the Doctor's mobile emitter.

    Actually... I think that its just the fact that the Constitution Class didn't have anything like a holodeck, and Pike ordered the holographic communications system ripped out due to it pretty much wrecking the Enterprise.
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  • baddmoonrizin
    baddmoonrizin Member Posts: 7,439 Community Moderator
    duasyn wrote: »
    Now if we can just wrap up this storyline and get back to the aborted Jemmy/Hur'q one we were in the middle of...
    The Hur'q/Jem'Hadar storyline wasn't aborted. It ended,.

    Cryptic has even confirmed, several times now, that they were planning to move onto the "Mirror Leeta returns" story, that would end Leeta's overall arc, before they switched to Discovery. The Hur'q stuff is as complete as it was always designed to be.

    That may be what was claimed but I don't believe it. BY the way, bring back the Foundry.

    Well, then prepare to be disappointed as your beliefs are dashed.
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  • phoenixc#0738
    phoenixc#0738 Member Posts: 4,210 Arc User
    Someone probably mentioned it, but considering the Discoverse's hologram tech (which was one of those things that I guess was deemed to dangerous for public knowledge/aka excuse for using tech that was not available at the time), I'd say that the Stamets Hologram is from that time, rather than a new construct.

    Probably doesn't need 29th Century tech, like the Doctor's mobile emitter.

    On the contrary, the holographic tech in DSC is very crude even compared to TOS eight years later. The holograms in DSC were not at all realistic, the same kind of low-res 3D rasterized thing you see in Star Wars, whereas dialog made it clear that TOS holograms were crisp, solid-looking, and very difficult to tell from the real thing (except for them having no substance at all, just the illusion of solidity). On top of that, they are obviously nothing special in TOS.

    In Catspaw Kirk and company encounter three floating witches and the first thing they guess is that it is a hologram and their body language and dialog makes it clear that they expect a hologram to look just like that and are wondering if someone is pranking them (possibly as a distraction for something else). Similarly, in That Which Survives the crew thought the photonic Losira was a real person with advanced transporter technology at first, but after they found out she was a holographic projection the only questions they had were how could a hologram touch things and be touched, and how was she killing people, all with no surprise whatsoever that a hologram could look real and not like a pale static-ridden ghost like DSC holograms.

    Also, in DSC it takes so much in the way of system resources and is unstable enough that it glitches other systems so Pike had the whole system ripped out. Self-contained photonics are an even longer way off in the future, at least in the Federation.
  • thevampinator
    thevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I like the way they did that too. They made it look very advanced and newish. But making it primitive and not so advanced at the same time. I think they did good on that with the holo communcations.

    I think the discovery show would be more popular with the player base had they not done what they did with the klingons though but the show seems to have high ratings so it might be a popular enough show and that is why cryptic has been using it. I like the connections they have made with the spores and the spore network. Elachi having access to it makes sense kinda of. Since they are a spore like race that might have been once native to the realm and we might see this in the new content.
    I do like discovery but yes there was some things they should have done different. Maybe people think its too sjw for their liking. But well there is deeper elements too. Star Trek has broken social norms of the past and well. The Spore Drive Network is very fascinating it might not be up to what people would like and many might not like the concept but there have been stranger elements in Star Trek. Greek Gods for example lol. Ju'la might be the not the best villain but the thing she has could corrupt the network and if that happens well since the network is connected to all life. It getting destoryed would be very bad for all living things making her such a dire threat and I think the Federation and the Klingon Empire might have kept it hidden or classified for these very reasons.

    This in fact could be used for great story telling as well. Why because Star Fleet had this tech they kept it hidden they never used it. Millions or maybe billions died do to the iconians and the iconian war and they never used this technology during that time frame. This could be a great way to have dissent and maybe cause something greater then a klingon civil war. But worlds turning away from the federation too. Maybe a war breaking out over it. This would be a great story arc they can use at some point. We as a player have to find some way to end this or prevent it. Maybe can tie into a section 31 storyline. Also this technolgy being such a danger and something the borg could use maybe to assimiate everything in the universe or mutiverse. This is a storyline that can follow with it. They do want to do a borg storyline. Them getting ahold of spore technology is the worst case scenario and would be the ultimate nightmare. So they can also go in that direction too. Like it hate discovery the content it has added can lead into very interesting storyline as there is a lot they can do with this as well. I di hope they can use its potential .
    Just because Discovery might be a bad show to some players and people don't like it does not mean they can't take and barrow stuff from it to improve the game and tell interesting storylines.

    The concept of mycelium is just as intriguing as the omega particle. Just as dangerous too. As we come to find out. Possibly even more so since corruption of mycelium could devastate the multiverse. The concept of this alone can be quite compelling. If they do it right. Make it likable and involve less discovery actors or tie ins later one when they do such storylines but use the Mycelium network and the crisis the discovery of it by the public has caused. I do hope take up the insperation and use it in a compelling way. Like some of the storyline ideas I mentioned would be epic. But only if they are well written and put together.

  • marty123#3757
    marty123#3757 Member Posts: 670 Arc User
    > @thevampinator said:
    > I like the way they did that too. They made it look very advanced and newish. But making it primitive and not so advanced at the same time. I think they did good on that with the holo communcations.
    >
    > I think the discovery show would be more popular with the player base had they not done what they did with the klingons though but the show seems to have high ratings so it might be a popular enough show and that is why cryptic has been using it. I like the connections they have made with the spores and the spore network. Elachi having access to it makes sense kinda of. Since they are a spore like race that might have been once native to the realm and we might see this in the new content.
    > I do like discovery but yes there was some things they should have done different. Maybe people think its too sjw for their liking. But well there is deeper elements too. Star Trek has broken social norms of the past and well. The Spore Drive Network is very fascinating it might not be up to what people would like and many might not like the concept but there have been stranger elements in Star Trek. Greek Gods for example lol. Ju'la might be the not the best villain but the thing she has could corrupt the network and if that happens well since the network is connected to all life. It getting destoryed would be very bad for all living things making her such a dire threat and I think the Federation and the Klingon Empire might have kept it hidden or classified for these very reasons.
    >
    > This in fact could be used for great story telling as well. Why because Star Fleet had this tech they kept it hidden they never used it. Millions or maybe billions died do to the iconians and the iconian war and they never used this technology during that time frame. This could be a great way to have dissent and maybe cause something greater then a klingon civil war. But worlds turning away from the federation too. Maybe a war breaking out over it. This would be a great story arc they can use at some point. We as a player have to find some way to end this or prevent it. Maybe can tie into a section 31 storyline. Also this technolgy being such a danger and something the borg could use maybe to assimiate everything in the universe or mutiverse. This is a storyline that can follow with it. They do want to do a borg storyline. Them getting ahold of spore technology is the worst case scenario and would be the ultimate nightmare. So they can also go in that direction too. Like it hate discovery the content it has added can lead into very interesting storyline as there is a lot they can do with this as well. I di hope they can use its potential .
    > Just because Discovery might be a bad show to some players and people don't like it does not mean they can't take and barrow stuff from it to improve the game and tell interesting storylines.
    > The concept of mycelium is just as intriguing as the omega particle. Just as dangerous too. As we come to find out. Possibly even more so since corruption of mycelium could devastate the multiverse. The concept of this alone can be quite compelling. If they do it right. Make it likable and involve less discovery actors or tie ins later one when they do such storylines but use the Mycelium network and the crisis the discovery of it by the public has caused. I do hope they see this post and barrow from it because I think there is potential for this.

    Ultimately Discovery got new people into Star Trek that had never seen any other series before, so wether any one person likes or dislikes it, it is a success.
  • thevampinator
    thevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    > @thevampinator said:
    > I like the way they did that too. They made it look very advanced and newish. But making it primitive and not so advanced at the same time. I think they did good on that with the holo communcations.
    >
    > I think the discovery show would be more popular with the player base had they not done what they did with the klingons though but the show seems to have high ratings so it might be a popular enough show and that is why cryptic has been using it. I like the connections they have made with the spores and the spore network. Elachi having access to it makes sense kinda of. Since they are a spore like race that might have been once native to the realm and we might see this in the new content.
    > I do like discovery but yes there was some things they should have done different. Maybe people think its too sjw for their liking. But well there is deeper elements too. Star Trek has broken social norms of the past and well. The Spore Drive Network is very fascinating it might not be up to what people would like and many might not like the concept but there have been stranger elements in Star Trek. Greek Gods for example lol. Ju'la might be the not the best villain but the thing she has could corrupt the network and if that happens well since the network is connected to all life. It getting destoryed would be very bad for all living things making her such a dire threat and I think the Federation and the Klingon Empire might have kept it hidden or classified for these very reasons.
    >
    > This in fact could be used for great story telling as well. Why because Star Fleet had this tech they kept it hidden they never used it. Millions or maybe billions died do to the iconians and the iconian war and they never used this technology during that time frame. This could be a great way to have dissent and maybe cause something greater then a klingon civil war. But worlds turning away from the federation too. Maybe a war breaking out over it. This would be a great story arc they can use at some point. We as a player have to find some way to end this or prevent it. Maybe can tie into a section 31 storyline. Also this technolgy being such a danger and something the borg could use maybe to assimiate everything in the universe or mutiverse. This is a storyline that can follow with it. They do want to do a borg storyline. Them getting ahold of spore technology is the worst case scenario and would be the ultimate nightmare. So they can also go in that direction too. Like it hate discovery the content it has added can lead into very interesting storyline as there is a lot they can do with this as well. I di hope they can use its potential .
    > Just because Discovery might be a bad show to some players and people don't like it does not mean they can't take and barrow stuff from it to improve the game and tell interesting storylines.
    > The concept of mycelium is just as intriguing as the omega particle. Just as dangerous too. As we come to find out. Possibly even more so since corruption of mycelium could devastate the multiverse. The concept of this alone can be quite compelling. If they do it right. Make it likable and involve less discovery actors or tie ins later one when they do such storylines but use the Mycelium network and the crisis the discovery of it by the public has caused. I do hope they see this post and barrow from it because I think there is potential for this.

    Ultimately Discovery got new people into Star Trek that had never seen any other series before, so wether any one person likes or dislikes it, it is a success.

    It is and well they would be stupid not to use its potential. Picard will also bring about some interesting things that I'm looking foward too. But here is what I hope cryptic does with if it makes to many alterations to the canon where they would have to place sto as an alternate timeline.
    I hope they do it in a way that sticks to the general sto story while also having a lot of what they can do from Picard still usable without making an alternate timeline. Make the changes where they can to the history while merging parts of it where they can and altering parts of history shown in the picard show to stick with stos canon or altering stos canon lead up a bit to fit with the show. Example if they they move the date of the hobus disaster to 2384 which might be happening they change things up to make it where picards fleet did it in 2387 instead when romulus was destroyed as one example as what they could do. So they can still use the picard show and show it. Maybe have picard actors come in come into sto as quest npcs. Even if sto is an alternate timeline from the canon timeline. The same time I don't want to see them using it where we travel to canon picard show timeline and back to ours. That would be like going to the kelvin timeline and back for a few missions and would hurt the chances of new uniforms and outfits being placed in the zen store. Which I hope most of the picard outfits for romulans and starfleet characters will be placed instead of the lobi store.

    So far I think the plot might not effect sto all that much given what was mentioned so I'm happy we will see at least more romulan and borg content. One thing I don't want to see might be repeating myself here is it being an alternate timeline we can travel to. Whatever happens they can make it work into stos. even if they have to alter the events or the dates of what happens in the show to make it fit. I also think they borrowed the borg cube prison thing or the borg cube captured and being dissected by romulans from sto though as we have missions were they are doing this exact same thing and I believe the ones doing it are the tal'shair so they might just be working with sto or using sto elements. So they might attempt to make it so the game can use it and the changes won't be too much. Also I've seen comments the unforms seen in the show look kinda like a hybrid between the Odyssey and Serria uniforms from sto. From another article I just read when I looked it up they might have used elements seen from both the comics and sto from a news article I read. So this is hope they are not going to butcher sto with the new canon show.
  • dariustural
    dariustural Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    It's impressive how in the span of a few months in-game, we went from "what are you talking about, there is no record of any USS Discovery?" according to season 2 to "here's all you need to know about what happened in 2256 and 2257 and all its secret tech, including from Section 31 despite the galaxy being mostly at peace expect for two crazy time-displaced ladies, team up with this hologram of the LEGENDARY Paul Stamets we somehow found brain patterns of somewhere!"
    In addition, there will be a Mycelial Event coming which allows you to earn a new T6 Elachi ship by completing the new episode, patrols and TFO. Additional details will be released in the days leading up to Awakening’s launch on September 10th.
    Oh yaaaaaaaaay, another grind for a ship. It's been quite a while since we had that.

    I have to wonder which Elachi ship they are going to have for the grind, and if it will be equipped to justify the grind. Might upset quite a few players who either purchased with Lobi or bought on the exchange, if it carries the same items.
  • legendarylycan#5411
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    it's going to be a brand new design, obviously - they won't give away an already-existing one, especially since they're all part of their 'surprise mechanic' boxes​​
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  • tousseau
    tousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Kumaarke is better than Ambassador Surah.

    Depends which of her personalities is coming through, the wide eyed innocent stepping out into the galaxy or the mildly psychotic one who found the trigger on a phaser.

    hot coffee funneled through my nose hurts, I'll have you know...
  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    That's because the Romulans made themselves known by blowing Earth outposts straight to hell. And it was explained in "Balance or Terror" why nobody knew what the Romulans looked like prior to that incident. The reasons had nothing to do with "being classified".
    Yeah it was because of the massively idiotic "we just threw nukes at each other over what would become the neutral zone, and nobody ever bothered to go take a look at who we were killing!"

    Which is even WORSE of an explanation then it being classified.

    It was explained that, at the time, there was nothing more than audio contact. So, no they weren't able to see just who was killing who, just that there was an enemy to be fought.

    Star Trek: Enterprise retconned that. While I liked ST: Enterprise, on the whole, it would have been better off not to hitch on the prequelitis that was all the rage at the time. When you want to show off new tech, keep the show moving forward, and keep away from setting the show in the past.
    In TOS "Balance of Terror", Spock stated that there was no ship to ship visual contact available during the Earth/Romulan War (Which was suppossedly why to Human, Romulan or Ally had ever seen the other (IMO there's a contradiction in that as in all the Romulan War stories and Novels, Humans, Vulcans, Andorians and various other species worked together and saw each other IN PERSON). ;)

    The only thing ENT showed in the few times they had direct communication with Romulans (in ENT S2 - "Minefield" and S4's "Babel One" and "United") was that the Romulans CHOSE to not communicate/transmit anything visually in that era and kept all gtheir Comms to non Romulan ships audio only. (ENT DID retcon what the Federation knew RE: Cloacking Technology in general - of Romulans and other species, although they tried to walk some of that back in 'United' when they claimed the Romulans were using Holotech to disguise their Drone as various different ships of different Star Nations and Species.

    I always had an issue with how Spock/Trek described the War in TOS anyway as I find it hard to believe there was never any planets used as bases or even large Federation or Romulan Starbases that would be assaulted by ground troops from either side.
    (In the original episode it was just a story point to set up and make the 'Shock' of Kirk and Co. discovering Romulans looked like Vulcans more visceral to the audience. I also find it interstiong Federation tech allowed Spock to be able to look in and 'spy' on the Rumulan Bridge without the Romulans knowing; BUT said tech couldn't help them aim/lock their weapons more effectively. ;)
    My personal theory is that the explanation for why no one knew what Romulans looked like was a cover story cooked up by Federation military intelligence.

    Let's face it, the existence of the Romulans was public knowledge. It's the Federation.... You have to tell people SOMETHING, you can't just tell them that the appearance of Romulans is classified. The logical choice is to say "we don't know" then make up a reason for why. And this case it was "we never got a chance to examine any bodies."
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  • valoreah
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    Awakening will also shine a new light on Patrols, with a system that makes them easier to find and easier to play – and offers new rewards.

    Truly hope this means something other than "defeat 3 waves of 5 enemies" in every system....
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  • sennahcherib
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    and if by new rewards, they mean more crappy r&d stuff, no thx
  • tousseau
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    My personal theory is that the explanation for why no one knew what Romulans looked like was a cover story cooked up by Federation military intelligence.

    Let's face it, the existence of the Romulans was public knowledge. It's the Federation.... You have to tell people SOMETHING, you can't just tell them that the appearance of Romulans is classified. The logical choice is to say "we don't know" then make up a reason for why. And this case it was "we never got a chance to examine any bodies."
    I have long assumed that the Coalition of Planets, and later, the Federation, lied about not knowing what Romulans looked like because the alliance was still too new, and too fragile back then, and the public learning that Romulans look exactly like Vulcans would create too much paranoia and distrust among the population regarding Vulcans that it would threaten to destroy the alliance they had made.

    By the time Kirk found out, the Federation had been around long enough that the information getting out wouldn't risk the stability of the Federation, so the Federation government just didn't care at that point.
    Using the aftermath of the Xindi incident, and the rise of Terra Prime, this actually makes a degree of sense...

  • strathkin
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    edited August 2019
    duasyn wrote: »
    Now if we can just wrap up this storyline and get back to the aborted Jemmy/Hur'q one we were in the middle of...
    The Hur'q/Jem'Hadar storyline wasn't aborted. It ended,.

    Cryptic has even confirmed, several times now, that they were planning to move onto the "Mirror Leeta returns" story, that would end Leeta's overall arc, before they switched to Discovery. The Hur'q stuff is as complete as it was always designed to be.

    That may be what was claimed but I don't believe it. BY the way, bring back the Foundry.

    Well, then prepare to be disappointed as your beliefs are dashed.

    Yea I agree. While the FOUNDRY was excellent while it lasted (a LONG time), it was however time to free up significant storage in the game client, for new and exciting enhancements. These will include some revised and updated mission ARCs in time, and exciting episodes in 2410 and into the FUTURE. <3;)

    It was NICE to see the Ambassador post this BLOG update from Cryptic! o:)

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  • jiralinria
    jiralinria Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    sthe91 wrote: »
    novusspes wrote: »
    Oh please no, no, no!
    Even more Discoverystuff dragged into the 25th century.
    Sounds it is basically another Discoverystoryarc.
    And that ugly comic book ship...

    They already mentioned in the story that J'ula would be a thing during the Age of Discovery expansion, this is continuing that thread. The rest of the Discovery stuff is finished for now. We are back in the year 2410 and not in the past, which is where the DSC episodes were set in and were holographic simulations for those who were Federation, KDF, and Romulan. It is not another Discovery story arc.

    Yeah and even if we are finished with the stupid Discovery arc for now, through this ridiculous simulation stuff it is smashed right into our faces if we want that, or not. Why would anyone want to look at stuff that is over 100 years old for tactical advise and how can one Klingon chick be a threat to us even if we bested the Iconians and basically everyone else in the galaxy? Sorry, not impressed with this at all :(
  • captaincelestial
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    yakodym wrote: »
    Ooh, makes sense that with the sudden re-emergence of fungus-powered starships, the Elachi would get involved somehow...

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  • shadowfirefly00
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    jiralinria wrote: »
    Why would anyone want to look at stuff that is over 100 years old for tactical advise and how can one Klingon chick be a threat to us even if we bested the Iconians and basically everyone else in the galaxy? Sorry, not impressed with this at all :(
    The idea, storywise, is to try and get one's mental tendrils wrapped around how she thinks... and from there, try and figure out how she would adapt to and leverage the present situation to her own ends (as implied here, she is most certainly doing that) in an attempt to be on the same metaphorical page, if not the one ahead. Folks who've read 'Without Remorse' will know this is what Grishanov was trying to do with respect to US bomber doctrine. Which reminds me that while we have that blog entry about J'Ula Doing Her Research, we have yet to see any corresponding entries talking about how Starfleet and the KDF are attempting to track her; having such bits of story would, I think, have done much to help players accept that our temporally displaced spook should be taken seriously. To be fair, as noted, Mirror!Tilly is (unknowingly) providing a nice distraction, on which note we haven't seen any similar blogs about that hunt either, which is a shame... It's not outside the realm of possibility that she and Mirror!Leeta would butt heads in the future; bonus points if J'Ula pops up for the terminal three-way.
  • desekayar
    desekayar Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    Can we be done with time travel now? I'm so tired of it at this point, I haven't even played the game since AoD dropped.

    Give me zero time travel and a T6 Patrol Escort, and you'll be my best friend forever.
  • captaincelestial
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    Someone probably mentioned it, but considering the Discoverse's hologram tech (which was one of those things that I guess was deemed to dangerous for public knowledge/aka excuse for using tech that was not available at the time), I'd say that the Stamets Hologram is from that time, rather than a new construct.

    Probably doesn't need 29th Century tech, like the Doctor's mobile emitter.
    Discovery's hologram technology was seem throughout TNG, they just didn't use it a lot because the CGI cost was much more expensive back then.

    It's a tale of two production teams.

    The studio wanted to make a new series, it's been years since the previous series was made. Do they set it in the time of the previous show? Wouldn't that make the new show look hooky and silly by today's standards and expectations?

    One decided to advance the timeline line (by approximately 80 years) and thereby be free to be able showcase technology that wasn't available at the time of the original series, as well as having radically different costume and ship designs, new galactic alliances, etc. To have a fresh canvas to start a series of spin-offs.

    The other went to before the original series (originally conceptualized to be set around the time before the Kelvin Incident and the 'split' from the canon timeline, thereby bridging the two, but it was changed to '10 years before Kirk, Spock and McCoy'). That wouldn't have been a bad idea, but they dropped the experienced Star Trek producer, because they were afraid that Fox's then upcoming new series, The Orville, would be serious competition since they aren't tied down by what came before them.
    So they cherry-picked the best technologies, such as shuttle designs to holo-technology and cybernetics, to name a few other concept, from the TNG era and used modern FX so they wouldn't look dated in comparison to the rival show.

    The very thought that this would've divided the fanbase was not in their minds when they decided this was the direction to go.

    Even Star Fleet during Discovery (thanks to advances in technology that was not supposed to happen 'til decades later) seemed more in line with the TNG-era Star Fleet. Subspace radio delays were the reason why Kirk and Co. was able to use 'Cowboy Diplomacy' that a later generation could not get away with.

  • captaincelestial
    captaincelestial Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Someone probably mentioned it, but considering the Discoverse's hologram tech (which was one of those things that I guess was deemed to dangerous for public knowledge/aka excuse for using tech that was not available at the time), I'd say that the Stamets Hologram is from that time, rather than a new construct.

    Probably doesn't need 29th Century tech, like the Doctor's mobile emitter.

    Actually... I think that its just the fact that the Constitution Class didn't have anything like a holodeck, and Pike ordered the holographic communications system ripped out due to it pretty much wrecking the Enterprise.

    That last part was a lame excuse to correct the timeline. The Enterprise did not have holotechnology, communications or otherwise. The Cage was three years prior to Star Trek: Discovery start date (thirteen years before TOS compared to Discovery's ten years before TOS).

    And even if there was such technology available, then there would have been examples of this in the Federation and Star Fleet outside of the Enterprise if it's was merely bad interaction with Enterprise's computer system.

    On the other hand, looking at original pilot over again, it's just as well that the second pilot, 'Where No Man Has Gone Before', dropped the computer print-outs that was used in The Cage. I've yet to see anyone get upset by that ;)
  • themeemz
    themeemz Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Since when does TAS have anything to do with the live storyline? That was a children's show. I was still a kid when it came out, but laughed at it because it wasn't as cool/good/fun as TOS. I thought we were talking about ADULT viewing; did this become kiddie-land while I wasn't looking?

    And Discovery is a joke. The writers blew it. I just can't watch that garbage... it isn't even good to laugh at because it is too painful to watch. There... I said it.
  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    Waken me on September 10th then. :)
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • strathkin
    strathkin Member Posts: 2,655 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2019
    salvation4 wrote: »
    can cryptic stop cracking jokes and start making some super Borg that finally reach earth in force with some kickass tactical cubes???

    Well I'm still waiting for Q to introduce a Cooperative Borg line of SHIPS; then perhaps an Anniversary / Winter Event Ship(s) with some variants also in CSTORE. As the formal Collective Borg Ships (if new) would likely be LOCKBOX based exclusively or limited to LOBI. ;)

    It is after all Q's specialty for Winter &/or Anniversary since he introduced the Federation to the Borg; and love's playing Borg Games at Winter with SnoBORG. <3
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