If the Command Battlecruisers aren't getting a second hangar, could they at least get "Weapon System Efficiency" Cruiser Command? I'd support just adding it to the existing "Shield Frequency Modulation" and "Attract Fire", switching to a standard Battlecruiser set of three( "Weapon System Efficiency", "Shield Frequency Modulation" and "Strategic Maneuvering"), or renaming them Dreadnought Cruisers and changing over to that set of two Cruiser Commands ( "Weapon System Efficiency" and "Attract Fire")
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Honestly they really didn't need to change Escort Carriers. To me the name makes sense. Its a light ship that also functions like a Carrier, but is not a fleet carrier.
In a way its like comparing the Concordia class Carriers from Wing Commander 4 to the Durango class Carrier, which started life as a destroyer and was converted into a carrier.
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Having both T5-U and T6 version of the original Temporal Science and Temporal Destroyers (Wells, Mobius, Verne, and Klein) I'm looking forward to this update! Finally, they get the Molecular Reconstruction settings they deserve! XD
dont like losing my rapid deployment on the HEC but aside from that this looks good...
What about the paradox?
What about existing carriers? They're now even farther into the suck bin.
They actually updated a bunch of T5 ships, but temporal ones, no. Simply because no T5 ship has a specialization.
That makes sense. Devalues the T5s T5Us even further, but with the new "Fly T6 at Level One" update, I guess any non-T6 ship is pretty much useless now. (Except for the ones with useful consoles, of course.)
No it doesn't. Specialist seating is not required to make a good build. It's only another flavour.
Absolutely correct! T5U's Perform very well in PVE Content.Especially with Sci ships (thats what im most familiar with), the specialization seats aren't really necessary. Vanilla Sci Alone is really powerful.
I wonder if this change on the Verne will also allow it to use the Console - Universal - Nanoprobe Containment Module (Nautilus).As it says Its available to be used on any Temporal science vessel but the Wells,Vern.. Paradox..didn't count for some reason.Hoping that will change.
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Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?
i'm happy to see my ships losing the carrier stuff, personally I don't use pets or I forget that I can use them. so for me, this modification is great:
and their Quick Deployment ship mastery is being changed to be Enhanced Weapon Systems.
The Escort Carriers do not lose their hangar bays, only the name changed.
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Id say honestly give Cariers a third bay, and 2 frigate wingmen, lose the ability to slot frigate pets and trade sensor lock(and the useless subsystem targeting) for 'command and control' that buffs pet/wingman accuracy and defense, then a rejiggerd subsytem targeting (since its utterly useless outside of a t6 recluse) so that the pets do subsystem targeting and have a great chance of it actually working. Sort of an equivalent to cruiser commands.
I assume the Escort Carrier mastery change also applies to the Qa'Tel Deck Raptor? It looks like the Jhu'ael Tactical Carrier Warbird already has Enhanced Weapons Systems and the warbird singularity thingy.
Looking forward to having an extra hanger on the flight-deck cruiser types, whenever I get around to acquiring some.
Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?
i'm happy to see my ships losing the carrier stuff, personally I don't use pets or I forget that I can use them. so for me, this modification is great:
and their Quick Deployment ship mastery is being changed to be Enhanced Weapon Systems.
The Escort Carriers do not lose their hangar bays, only the name changed.
I know, I mean the mastery stuff (forgotten the name). read again my post
I purchased a t5 JHDread right before t6 ships where announced.... also I purchased a Universe class (after saving for quite a long time) 2 weeks before the Donnie was announced(with all the cool stuff with it) Yea I guess these are good changes but hell do I regret EVERY major investment in ships I have done in this game now. I should be excited as a carrier fan for this announcement but it just feels like you are twisting the knife.
Pioneer needs to be one. It was the starting AOY ship. And someone did the work to make the ship, let's use it!
My forum avatar agrees with you, smokebailey A T6 version of an utility cruiser sounds nice
Thinking about it, there should be equivalent small utility ships from the other factions too. I'd love to see a TOS version of this ship from the Klingons and Romulans (the Dominion wasn't known at the time, but that doesn't mean they didn't have something of the sort in the Gamma Quadrant...).
I'm wondering what the next TFO is going to be. There's supposed to be one coming in August (which is going to be the last of three going towards the free T6 token).
Since Thursday is August 1st (which happens to be a Holiday where I'm from), this update will probably include the new TFO with it.
Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?
i'm happy to see my ships losing the carrier stuff, personally I don't use pets or I forget that I can use them. so for me, this modification is great:
and their Quick Deployment ship mastery is being changed to be Enhanced Weapon Systems.
The Escort Carriers do not lose their hangar bays, only the name changed.
I know, I mean the mastery stuff (forgotten the name). read again my post
I also read your post the way the other person did. You said "carrier stuff." You further said you don't use the pets anyway, which, combined with the previous sentence, is read as you're glad the pets are gone too.
Not trying to nitpick, just reinforcing the point it was a little confusing.
I'm wondering what the next TFO is going to be. There's supposed to be one coming in August (which is going to be the last of three going towards the free T6 token).
Since Thursday is August 1st (which happens to be a Holiday where I'm from), this update will probably include the new TFO with it.
It's Arena of sompek. No reason to wonder, it's in the in-game calendar, and has been for the last month.
Fantastic news where the Temporal ships are concerned - it never made sense that ships such as the Verne, from the 29th century, didn't have the Temporal Operative spec - I mean, they're timeships! Am really pleased to see them address this!
Completely agree. I bought a Verne ship not long ago and I like it but got dissapointed to see it had no molecular deconstruction. I guess I'm lucky
what about the Krenim ship. surely that is a temporal ship. It was made to specifically alter time
I think they meant just the temporal agency ships, not any ship that has anything to do with time. The Krenim ship did not actually travel through time, it remotely culled events to try and shape the present (and usually screwed it up) which is completely different from what temporal agency ships were shown to do in the shows.
I'm curious when Borticus does from Invasive coilgun usable thing again. From the second best experimental weapon it become to second worst in the game (now does not cause any electrical damage at all). I bought it for 200 lobi, but I know the people who bought Section 31 ship for it. In the meantime, I have no interest in basically unnecessary name changes.
Is it just me or is the Heavy Dreadnought(s) getting the short end of the stick here? The newest MW ships (Ent/D7) already seem overpowered with two hangar bays.
And what about the Tarantula? The Bulwark? The Annorax? The Paradox?
If the smaller ships are now going to have two hangar bays, why would anyone want to fly a dedicated carrier any more? Can't they add some hangars to these?
Just jumping in with some of the same. Why aren't the t5 lockbox ships getting updated? I feel like the lobi ships should be retroactively respec'd to be t6. I worked my TRIBBLE off and spent a lot of Zen and lobi and credits to get my Mobius and Wells. When are they going to be worth a damn again?
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Just jumping in with some of the same. Why aren't the t5 lockbox ships getting updated? I feel like the lobi ships should be retroactively respec'd to be t6. I worked my TRIBBLE off and spent a lot of Zen and lobi and credits to get my Mobius and Wells. When are they going to be worth a damn again?
I still fly both..And I have the T6 Variants...How are the T5U's not worth Damn?
Wondering if other ships will be reclassified at some later stage ?,
After all we have a large number of cruiser types,just to name a few:heavy cruisers,battle cruisers advanced light cruisers,light cruisers,corvettes and frigates.
Could any of this be to do with next years changes ?.
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In a way its like comparing the Concordia class Carriers from Wing Commander 4 to the Durango class Carrier, which started life as a destroyer and was converted into a carrier.
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What about the paradox?
What about existing carriers? They're now even farther into the suck bin.
Absolutely correct! T5U's Perform very well in PVE Content.Especially with Sci ships (thats what im most familiar with), the specialization seats aren't really necessary. Vanilla Sci Alone is really powerful.
I wonder if this change on the Verne will also allow it to use the Console - Universal - Nanoprobe Containment Module (Nautilus).As it says Its available to be used on any Temporal science vessel but the Wells,Vern.. Paradox..didn't count for some reason.Hoping that will change.
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The Escort Carriers do not lose their hangar bays, only the name changed.
Oooo...I like this idea. Already got plenty for a wicked radiation build
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Looking forward to having an extra hanger on the flight-deck cruiser types, whenever I get around to acquiring some.
I know, I mean the mastery stuff (forgotten the name). read again my post
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My forum avatar agrees with you, smokebailey
Thinking about it, there should be equivalent small utility ships from the other factions too. I'd love to see a TOS version of this ship from the Klingons and Romulans (the Dominion wasn't known at the time, but that doesn't mean they didn't have something of the sort in the Gamma Quadrant...).
Since Thursday is August 1st (which happens to be a Holiday where I'm from), this update will probably include the new TFO with it.
Escort with escorts? Yeah, I kinda agree w/ you. Escort Carrier made more sense and is an actual term for a small carrier.
I also read your post the way the other person did. You said "carrier stuff." You further said you don't use the pets anyway, which, combined with the previous sentence, is read as you're glad the pets are gone too.
Not trying to nitpick, just reinforcing the point it was a little confusing.
It's Arena of sompek. No reason to wonder, it's in the in-game calendar, and has been for the last month.
Completely agree. I bought a Verne ship not long ago and I like it but got dissapointed to see it had no molecular deconstruction. I guess I'm lucky
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I think they meant just the temporal agency ships, not any ship that has anything to do with time. The Krenim ship did not actually travel through time, it remotely culled events to try and shape the present (and usually screwed it up) which is completely different from what temporal agency ships were shown to do in the shows.
And what about the Tarantula? The Bulwark? The Annorax? The Paradox?
If the smaller ships are now going to have two hangar bays, why would anyone want to fly a dedicated carrier any more? Can't they add some hangars to these?
I still fly both..And I have the T6 Variants...How are the T5U's not worth Damn?
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Might hop back into my Corsair again and give it a whirl.
I do wish they'd make a T6 version.
Chances of that happening? Slim to none
After all we have a large number of cruiser types,just to name a few:heavy cruisers,battle cruisers advanced light cruisers,light cruisers,corvettes and frigates.
Could any of this be to do with next years changes ?.