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Putting the "Temporal" in "Temporal Starships"

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,673 Community Manager
We're making changes to several sets of starships - including some of your biggest requests, like Temporal Specializations and extra Hangar Bays. Find out more here!

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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,275 Arc User
    why is the paradox not in the list? it is very clearly called a TEMPORAL dreadnought, yet it doesn't already have full temporal spec

    also...as these ships are being modified, will their consoles also be getting their equip restrictions removed like most consoles recently have been out the door?​​
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  • kaleun1984kaleun1984 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    What about the Paradox-class? I know, she already has a Lt. Tactical-Command seat and a LtCdr. Universal-Intelligence seat. She is however a timeship and classified as a Temporal Dreadnought (not to be confused with the mentioned Temporal Heavy Dreadnoughts of the Universe-, Valkis- and Durgath-classes).
  • quinnftw76#3498 quinnftw76 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    I'm disappointed that it's only the T6 ships. I've still got my T5U Talvath and R'Mor dry docked on my original Romulan character.
  • voodoopokeyvoodoopokey Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    The Valkis really should be capable of equipping droneships, given the stated droneship restrictions. Sneak that onto the list of future minor mechanical changes!
  • phoenix841phoenix841 Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    I'm happy to see the Cardassian intel ship get updated. Always confused me why both cardi hangar ships only had 1 hangar each.
    I'm disappointed that it's only the T6 ships. I've still got my T5U Talvath and R'Mor dry docked on my original Romulan character.

    They actually updated a bunch of T5 ships, but temporal ones, no. Simply because no T5 ship has a specialization.
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  • divvydenddivvydend Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    "But a timeline change is imminent, and these ships will be changing with it."

    Is this important? Have I missed something?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    divvydend wrote: »
    "But a timeline change is imminent, and these ships will be changing with it."

    Is this important? Have I missed something?
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,626 Arc User
    So will the 'new' temporal ships be able to equip the "Cloaking Device" console a number of other ships can?

    It would make sense, since they are from the future and would probably have the ability to hide themselves (if they want to fill a console slot with the device). This is would be especially true for ROMULAN time ships.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    We're making changes to several sets of starships - including some of your biggest requests, like Temporal Specializations and extra Hangar Bays. Find out more here!

    https://t.co/UlvOIqRnMP https://t.co/q4bZHYc0Bx

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    Interesting info @ambassadorkael#6946, lol

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    Edit 2: Done!
    Edit 3: Link is working for me now, idk if you did anything about it or something.
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  • michaelsdstmichaelsdst Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @quinnftw76#3498 said:
    > I'm disappointed that it's only the T6 ships. I've still got my T5U Talvath and R'Mor dry docked on my original Romulan character.

    It's only T6 for the Temporal Change, because T5s don't have specializations.

    The change from Flight Deck Cruisers to Flight Deck Carriers is even for the Daciot which is a Tier 3 ship.
  • quinnftw76#3498 quinnftw76 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    They actually updated a bunch of T5 ships, but temporal ones, no. Simply because no T5 ship has a specialization.

    That makes sense. Devalues the T5s T5Us even further, but with the new "Fly T6 at Level One" update, I guess any non-T6 ship is pretty much useless now. (Except for the ones with useful consoles, of course.)
  • deathomightdeathomight Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?
    I think I agree.

    Why not FlightDeck Escorts?

    Also isn't flight deck carrier just a tad redundant? Are we able to think up a better name for them? Probably keep the new carrier part of the name, and ditch flight deck from these ships and find a replacement word of some sort to put there instead.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,385 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Fantastic news where the Temporal ships are concerned - it never made sense that ships such as the Verne, from the 29th century, didn't have the Temporal Operative spec - I mean, they're timeships! Am really pleased to see them address this!

    Not just timeships. The Wells was the OG ship specifically dedicated to temporal shenanigans in canon that appeared playable in the game.
    That the T5 version didn't have the temporal mechanics was normal because they didn't exist back then, but the T6 version not having it at its time of release was ridiculous.

    That was the ONE thing not to "forget".
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  • empresslesbian#5797 empresslesbian Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    So my quas can have two hangars? MWHAHAHAHAAA!!!! Groovy.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    The Orions are the real winners here, because every one of their ships got buffed, from T3, T4, T5, T5 Retrofit, T5U, T6. And I have ALL OF THEM, every Orion ship and Elite versions of every Orion Pet. See the problem with Orion ships is each came with a unique hangar bay pet + Orion Slavers as an option, but Orion ships could only ever use 1 of them at a time which is frustrating. Seriously there are Orion Armoured Maruading Assault Shuttles, Orion Interceptors Fighters, Orion Taychon Drones, Orion Slavers, and Orion Cutpurse Fighters.

    Now I can use say Elite Cutpurse Fighters AND Elite Inceptors on my Blsckguard, or Elite Marauding Shuttles AND Elite Orion Slavers on my Dacoit, Elite Orion Taychon Drones and say Cardassian Yukawa Frigates on my Retrofit Fleet Corsair.

    I own the Daciot, the Corsair, the Retrofit Corsair, the Fleet Retrofit Corsair, the Marauder, the Blackguard, and best of all the Fleet Blackguard, heck I also known the what is now the Cardasaian Intel Flight Deck Carrier Ghemor Class, so this change is HUGE for me it buffs 8 of my ships in a way that is fun and awesome.

    I am curious if Flight Deck Raptors will be effected at all, if not that actually makes them more unique beyond their ability to cloak. I own those too. This seems pure win for me.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I like these changes & clarifications. For the 6 Temporal ships it is pretty straight forward. Nice upgrade for these ships. I still wish the Rom & KDF versions had cloak lol. As already stated though no mention of that Paradox ship???

    The Flight-Deck Cruisers & Carriers seem a bit more complicated & could affect, negatively, how players had previously chosen their certain Skill path prior to this change but I still like this change & clarifying.

    The Strike Wing Escorts is simply a relabeling so straight forward again for better clarification. Sadly I don't have any of those ships so no effect on me though I want that Hur'q Ravager & I fear it will increase in price even more now lol.

    The last patch notes were pretty good & those were right before Cryptic's shindig in Vegas & now this is pretty good too, imo. Nicely done, Cryptic. Now please release some synopsis of your Las Vegas trip maybe?
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    When does this go into effect ?
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    What do you mean 'devalues' them. T5s would never have a Specialization anyway? That is a fact from Delta Rising many yahren ago.

    They did update lower class ships with regards to Hangers, because lower class ships have... hangers.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @lordgyor said:
    > > @lordgyor said:
    > > The Orions are the real winners here, because every one of their ships got buffed, from T3, T4, T5, T5 Retrofit, T5U, T6. And I have ALL OF THEM, every Orion ship and Elite versions of every Orion Pet. See the problem with Orion ships is each came with a unique hangar bay pet + Orion Slavers as an option, but Orion ships could only ever use 1 of them at a time which is frustrating. Seriously there are Orion Armoured Maruading Assault Shuttles, Orion Interceptors Fighters, Orion Taychon Drones, Orion Slavers, and Orion Cutpurse Fighters.
    > >
    > > Now I can use say Elite Cutpurse Fighters AND Elite Inceptors on my Blsckguard, or Elite Marauding Shuttles AND Elite Orion Slavers on my Dacoit, Elite Orion Taychon Drones and say Cardassian Yukawa Frigates on my Retrofit Fleet Corsair.
    > >
    > > I own the Daciot, the Corsair, the Retrofit Corsair, the Fleet Retrofit Corsair, the Marauder, the Blackguard, and best of all the Fleet Blackguard, heck I also known the what is now the Cardasaian Intel Flight Deck Carrier Ghemor Class, so this change is HUGE for me it buffs 8 of my ships in a way that is fun and awesome.
    > >
    > > I am curious if Flight Deck Raptors will be effected at all, if not that actually makes them more unique beyond their ability to cloak. I know those toom
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    > @foppotee#4552 said:
    > I like these changes & clarifications. For the 6 Temporal ships it is pretty straight forward. Nice upgrade for these ships. I still wish the Rom & KDF versions had cloak lol. As already stated though no mention of that Paradox ship???
    >
    > The Flight-Deck Cruisers & Carriers seem a bit more complicated & could affect, negatively, how players had previously chosen their certain Skill path prior to this change but I still like this change & clarifying.
    >
    > The Strike Wing Escorts is simply a relabeling so straight forward again for better clarification. Sadly I don't have any of those ships so no effect on me though I want that Hur'q Ravager & I fear it will increase in price even more now lol.
    >
    > The last patch notes were pretty good & those were right before Cryptic's shindig in Vegas & now this is pretty good too, imo. Nicely done, Cryptic. Now please release some synopsis of your Las Vegas trip maybe?

    That could just be an error that the paradox is not mentioned.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @saurializard said:
    > reyan01 wrote: »
    >
    > Fantastic news where the Temporal ships are concerned - it never made sense that ships such as the Verne, from the 29th century, didn't have the Temporal Operative spec - I mean, they're timeships! Am really pleased to see them address this!
    >
    >
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    > Not just timeships. The Wells was the OG ship specifically dedicated to temporal shenanigans in canon that appeared playable in the game.
    > That the T5 version didn't have the temporal mechanics was normal because they didn't exist back then, but the T6 version not having it at its time of release was ridiculous.
    >
    > That was the ONE thing not to "forget".

    Good catch, the Wellsshould be added to that list, itsan important one too because it's canon .
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Why not Light Escort Carriers??
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  • finsches123finsches123 Member Posts: 155 Arc User
    Nice updates to my Cardie and Orion FDCs! :)
    However, the distinction between "carriers" and "flight-deck carriers" seems a bit weird, given that the renaming is supposed to clarify what type of ships they are. Why not something simple, like "engineering carriers", similar to how there are "science dreadnoughts"?
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited July 2019
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    Now.. most of these changes seem pretty good, there is only one thing dissapointing to me..
    There are some other ships that do not entirely fit in existing ship classifications, such as the Obelisk Carrier, the Command Battlecruisers..

    The Command Battlecruisers should be part of this change in my opinion. They're already obsolete and left in the dust, adding a second hangar bay to something like the Presidio could give it a new life and help it fit better with the current generation of ships. It's a shame to not see these changes applied to these ships.. they could really use something to breathe some life back into them.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    Pioneer needs to be one. It was the starting AOY ship. And someone did the work to make the ship, let's use it! :D
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  • mikeblackwolfmikeblackwolf Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    But no love for the Kelvin Timeline ships ? :C
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Why not Light Escort Carriers??

    They could call the mainline carriers like Obelisk and the Orion peanut just "carriers", the heavy mixed cruiser/dread carriers "strike carriers", the escorts with a flight deck "escort carriers". Science oriented carriers could be called "support carriers".
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    They actually updated a bunch of T5 ships, but temporal ones, no. Simply because no T5 ship has a specialization.

    That makes sense. Devalues the T5s T5Us even further, but with the new "Fly T6 at Level One" update, I guess any non-T6 ship is pretty much useless now. (Except for the ones with useful consoles, of course.)

    No it doesn't. Specialist seating is not required to make a good build. It's only another flavour.
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  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    Strike Wing Escorts sound cheesy. Why not let them all be Heavy Escorts?

    i'm happy to see my ships losing the carrier stuff, personally I don't use pets or I forget that I can use them. so for me, this modification is great:
    and their Quick Deployment ship mastery is being changed to be Enhanced Weapon Systems.

  • yakodymyakodym Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    8 weapons, no hangar = Dreadnought Cruiser
    8 weapons, 1 hangar = Flight-Deck Dreadnought
    8 weapons, 2 hangars = Dreadnought Carrier

    7 weapons, 1 exp. weapon, no hangar = Heavy Escort
    7 weapons, 1 exp. weapon, 1 hangar = Flight-Deck Escort
    7 weapons, 1 exp. weapon, 2 hangars = Escort Carrier

    6 weapons, secondary deflector, no hangar = Science Dreadnought
    6 weapons, secondary deflector, 1 hangar = Flight-Deck Science Vessel
    6 weapons, secondary deflector, 2 hangars = Science Carrier

    ...or something like that. Flight-Deck Carrier sounds a lot like Science-Deck Research Vessel.
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