> @captaincelestial said: > To be honest, if the Discovery Enterprise was a C-Store ship, it would have been the icing on the Free T6 Ship Token event, if not the cherry on top. > > Alas, that is not to be.
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
Edit: I was corrected. While they said "new" ships are excluded, they simply meant ships during their introduction time. Those "new" ships turn old at some point and can then be bought via the token.
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I can't begin to explain how angry I am with this news today.
You... you actually thought they might end up in the c-store? EL OH EL!
I know I felt dumb after posting, should have known better
No... Don't feel dumb at all. People have been asking for a T6 Connie for years.
Virtually, every other "Hero Ship" is available as a T6 offering in the Zen Store... However the Queen Mother of vessels continues to elude us... It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
This time around I, too, was also hoping that the dev's would throw us a bone and finally give us a Zen option to get our grubby hands on a T6 Connie... But, alas, it was apparently not meant to be.
Well, they don't want people to get to attached to the Crossfield, their latest hero ship either.
Both are either R&D'd or lock boxed like the JJverse T6 Constitution and Discoverse Crossfield.
> @captaincelestial said:
> To be honest, if the Discovery Enterprise was a C-Store ship, it would have been the icing on the Free T6 Ship Token event, if not the cherry on top.
>
> Alas, that is not to be.
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
> @captaincelestial said:
> To be honest, if the Discovery Enterprise was a C-Store ship, it would have been the icing on the Free T6 Ship Token event, if not the cherry on top.
>
> Alas, that is not to be.
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
Actually, that's not true. It was already stated at the time that the token could be saved, and that over time, new release ships would drop off the "black list" and be made available to be acquired with the token.
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> @captaincelestial said:
> To be honest, if the Discovery Enterprise was a C-Store ship, it would have been the icing on the Free T6 Ship Token event, if not the cherry on top.
>
> Alas, that is not to be.
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
Actually, that's not true. It was already stated at the time that the token could be saved, and that over time, new release ships would drop off the "black list" and be made available to be acquired with the token.
Thank you, baddmoonrizin, that makes the free ship token worth what went into earning it in the first place
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
Is this fact or implied? I don't remember seeing any kind of restriction on what kind of ship we could get for free in the blog. In fact, it says in the blog that the token "will allow you claim a free Tier 6 Starship of your choice from the Zen Store."
Now, I get they will likely exclude newer ships for a time from being able to be claimed for free but eventually add them in. The only reason I bring this up is because I know someone who already owns every T6 CStore ship in the game and will likely be very ticked off when a new T6 CStore ship is released and they are unable to get it.
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Yeah, that's what I get for not reading past a post that catches my attention. Seems others are saying what I figured about newer ships eventually being allowed, but it's still nice to see I'm not the only person wondering about this.
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Yeah, that's what I get for not reading past a post that catches my attention. Seems others are saying what I figured about newer ships eventually being allowed, but it's still nice to see I'm not the only person wondering about this.
We got a nicely detailed explanation when they discussed it in the livestream. Anything marked as "new" is off the list of options. But only while "new".
> @markhawkman said: > We got a nicely detailed explanation when they discussed it in the livestream. Anything marked as "new" is off the list of options. But only while "new".
Ah, I misunderstood then. But it's also weirdly worded, in my weak defense 😜
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
> @iamynaught said: > > > Is this fact or implied? (...)
See my other posting. In the livestream, it was said "new" ships are excluded, but this didn't mean what I thought it meant. They coumd have said "ships during their introduction period" or something like this.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Yeah, I have to wait for the next next C-Store Ship to be able to claim the next C-Store ship.
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Called this train wreck when the Discovery Constitution was announced. Kind of sad that Discovery is the only main Star Trek "era" (I don't count JJverse as main era and from the look of mission count, neither does Cryptic). But two variants of the Crossfield, the Constitution, and the "D7" all gamble box ships. Cash grab Cryptic, cash grab. Zen store would have provided income without the rage.
How do I get off this ride? This is EXACTLY how corporations get made out to be so damn evil in this country. As someone who has played this game since day 1, this is a bridge too far. Its the obvious lack of respect for fans that make a game like this possible that I cant get over. Make a space game, have all the mechanics you like that are in this game, but taking a beloved franchise and dangling the ship that started it all in a blatant attempt to make money KNOWING that there will be a backlash, KNOWING that you are abusing not only your customers, but the people that bought into Gene Rodenberry's dream of a better future. Those of you that allowed this to happen, are the NOT what Star Trek is about. Literally a show about people being the best version of themselves they can be, and this corporate trash heap literally said, "Meh, we don't care about the fans vs our profit". Not one more dime, not one more second playing this game. The only way to teach a business the error of its ways is to stop buying the product. Hit them in the pocket book. I had some good times playing this game, and honestly its hard to say good bye. I've used it for years to connect with friends in California since I am on the East Coast. I will find another way. What I wont do is allow a corporation to use a beloved icon to extort money from me on a "maybe you will win, but no guarantee." Exchange? The economy is so broken its not even funny. Not everyone has the time to grind the credits, or the hundreds of dollars to buy keys that are steadily losing value on the exchange. Im not even mad, its just..........sad.
I'm disappointed, but not surprised. That said, in the end, this is just a game. There's nothing 'Evil' going on here. Some tof the hyperbole here is just over the top.
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Existing faction ships being put into gamble boxes feels like BS to me. It always has. Mirror Universe versions, sure, I get that. Anything else should be in the c-store. Iconic existing faction ship classes should never ever be in a gambling box. The D7 was THE backbone of the KDF for years, they probably had hundreds if not thousands of them. There were also multiple Constitution class cruisers made by Starfleet. These are not rare unique ships.
I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed they did this. I'm not surprised by the overt power creep either really. I'd have been perfectly fine with a 4/4 T6 Connie and a 5/3 D7 Battlecruiser with one or no hanger bays and middle of the road stats if they were a c-store bundle. I would have gotten that in a heartbeat. I'm definitely not gonna pay real money for this nonsense though.
I can't begin to explain how angry I am with this news today.
You... you actually thought they might end up in the c-store? EL OH EL!
I know I felt dumb after posting, should have known better
No... Don't feel dumb at all. People have been asking for a T6 Connie for years.
Virtually, every other "Hero Ship" is available as a T6 offering in the Zen Store... However the Queen Mother of vessels continues to elude us... It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
This time around I, too, was also hoping that the dev's would throw us a bone and finally give us a Zen option to get our grubby hands on a T6 Connie... But, alas, it was apparently not meant to be.
I mean, of course it's always been the most requested T6 version of all the hero ships -the other hero ships already got their Tier 6 versions, people asking for them would be silly!
I think the thing that makes it so "excusable" to put in some kind of lockbox or Promo box is that in-universe, it's a really old ship and extremely unlikely to still be used or retrofit for the 25th century.
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> @mustrumridcully0 said: asking for them would be silly! > > I think the thing that makes it so "excusable" to put in some kind of lockbox or Promo box is that in-universe, it's a really old ship and extremely unlikely to still be used or retrofit for the 25th century.
Ironically, the blog for these ships says they are actually NEW ships based on the old design. That is the IN universe explaination.
> @thegrandnagus1 said: > Ironically, the blog for these ships says they are actually NEW ships based on the old design. That is the IN universe explaination. >
Which I personally think is a awful way to handle this. Sure, Cryptic couldn't have forseen that we would only get prequels and post-Nemesis content would wait a long time to get officially continued, but they shoukd just go with "retrofits" or no in-universe explanation at all. "Look we found old ships and their designs, which we forgot about, are way better than everything we build in the 25th century! Lets build old ships again!". Meh.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign and their respective T6 versions all in the cash shop... and the NX in lobi. Each of these had an Enterprise in their lineup
> @thegrandnagus1 said:
> Ironically, the blog for these ships says they are actually NEW ships based on the old design. That is the IN universe explaination.
>
Which I personally think is a awful way to handle this. Sure, Cryptic couldn't have forseen that we would only get prequels and post-Nemesis content would wait a long time to get officially continued, but they shoukd just go with "retrofits" or no in-universe explanation at all. "Look we found old ships and their designs, which we forgot about, are way better than everything we build in the 25th century! Lets build old ships again!". Meh.
As I understand it the in-universe explanation goes like this: Yard 39 lays down the superstructure of a new Constitution class to the DSC design -> Baryon Radiation storm occurs -> 200 years later, modern Starfleet engineers find the space frame and decide to experiment with it putting in the latest technology and taking advantage of the miniaturization that has occured over the last 200 years -> Surprised by the effectiveness of what they have just created, they submit the new blueprints to the SFCE for further proiduction -> Miracle Worker Flight Deck Cruiser.
So, it's not that the discovered 23rd century tech is better in this case, but that they wanted to see what could be done with an over-sized Connie frame and 25th century technology.
So they create a really effective Starship and decide to hold back on its production because....?
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I'd prefer if Cryptic could treat special things like FF14 does. They do an event for X item and then a year or so later, that item shows up in their store. Best of both worlds. Cryptic gets their hype and, supposedly big bucks, and then later all the unlucky schlubs get to buy it when the hype has gone away. This would give Cryptic 2 paydays on one item.
Now I have no data on how much older R&D ships get chosen from boxes months/years later, but I'd think popping them in the C-store for a bit more than the normal T6 ship might get them more money. Especially since so many players have been burned by the RNG boxes that they don't do them anymore.
It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign and their respective T6 versions all in the cash shop... and the NX in lobi. Each of these had an Enterprise in their lineup
edit:
Excelsior too now that I think about it
To be honest, most of those ships were in the game before loot boxes were. Who knows where the Galaxy or Sovereign would have been if loot boxes were here at launch.
I can't begin to explain how angry I am with this news today.
You... you actually thought they might end up in the c-store? EL OH EL!
I know I felt dumb after posting, should have known better
No... Don't feel dumb at all. People have been asking for a T6 Connie for years.
Virtually, every other "Hero Ship" is available as a T6 offering in the Zen Store... However the Queen Mother of vessels continues to elude us... It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
This time around I, too, was also hoping that the dev's would throw us a bone and finally give us a Zen option to get our grubby hands on a T6 Connie... But, alas, it was apparently not meant to be.
Uh we did get the T6 sovereign class..That class also bore the name Enterprise..So its only the connie thats eluded everyone mostly..
It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign and their respective T6 versions all in the cash shop... and the NX in lobi. Each of these had an Enterprise in their lineup
edit:
Excelsior too now that I think about it
To be honest, most of those ships were in the game before loot boxes were. Who knows where the Galaxy or Sovereign would have been if loot boxes were here at launch.
There probably wouldn't even be free rank progression versions of them...
It seems that if it has had the misfortune to have had the name of "Enterprise" attached to it, it has been locked behind the infernal gates of RNGehenna.
Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign and their respective T6 versions all in the cash shop... and the NX in lobi. Each of these had an Enterprise in their lineup
edit:
Excelsior too now that I think about it
To be honest, most of those ships were in the game before loot boxes were. Who knows where the Galaxy or Sovereign would have been if loot boxes were here at launch.
I would have sold my organs to get the SOV..Thankfully it didn't go the connie route..
Not massively surprised that it's a lockbox type prize... disappointed. But not completely surprised. At the end of the day, this is how a F2P game has to work in order to survive - and I would suspect that CBS had a hand in the decision as well. Hero ships tend to be hard to find. That's ok. Maybe they should be, other wise what's the point in having any other class of ship?
It's nice that it's not going to be the most common ship in the game. I can't justify (personally) spending what I did to get the Crossfield, but I don't begrudge anyone doing that. Life, as always, is about choice. I chose to buy 151 lockbox keys to get a Crossfield. No one forced me. I don't regret it, I still use and love the ship. I see it as my big money contribution to the continuation of STO - and I wouldn't have it any other way
Both the DSC Constitution and D7 are beautiful, and plenty of people are going to have these ships in game. I will see them. Maybe we'll get a mission with them and get to interact with them
People really do need to calm down about it. As much as many of us (myself included) hoped that these would be C-Store ships, the chances of that were always going to be small. If STO was a sub-only based game, things might be different. But it isn't. I don't know why people have to get so threatening and narly about all this. Sheesh - STO is a GAME - and a free one as well. If you want the awesome stuff, you have to pay. This isn't a new thing. It's been like this for a while.
In terms of the Free T6 Ship Voucher - people need to pay attention. There is a lot of accurate information being posted about how to use them, what (if any restrictions there will be) and the fact that they don't have to be used immediately and can be saved for future use.
Basically people; grow up.
People ask how long have I been playing STO - well the answer is simple: I have been here since the beginning. I just haven't always had a lot to say.
Everyone has their opinion, but I really don't understand the rage here. Cryptic can make a lot more money this way.
More money is better than less money. The money pays the salaries of the developers, leading to more development of the game, more content, more ship releases.
More game development is better than less game development.
Want more game? Allow them to make more revenue using loot boxes (which you can safely ignore if you so desire) or insist they abolish their free to play model. And return to subscription only. I for one would rather allow them the revenue to continue to allow me to play for free.
Want less game? Keep calling for the abolishment of a guaranteed revenue stream, calling them "cash grabs" (as if that's a bad thing, again, they MUST MAKE CASH if you want to continue to play) and settle in for content droughts. I know there may be other ways to increase revenue, but it would definitely be harder. I for one would rather avoid going back to content droughts.
C- store would be nice, sure. But calling for cutting off a major revenue source, which would hurt the development of the game you seem to care so much about, is not the answer.
It's really not that complicated.
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Alas, that is not to be.
> To be honest, if the Discovery Enterprise was a C-Store ship, it would have been the icing on the Free T6 Ship Token event, if not the cherry on top.
>
> Alas, that is not to be.
That was never an option since the free token is only usable for ships that were in the store when it was announced. You cannot "save" the token as newer ships are not part of the deal.
Edit: I was corrected. While they said "new" ships are excluded, they simply meant ships during their introduction time. Those "new" ships turn old at some point and can then be bought via the token.
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Well, they don't want people to get to attached to the Crossfield, their latest hero ship either.
Both are either R&D'd or lock boxed like the JJverse T6 Constitution and Discoverse Crossfield.
Hey, that's just perfect!
I've bought all the C-Store ships already.
Actually, that's not true. It was already stated at the time that the token could be saved, and that over time, new release ships would drop off the "black list" and be made available to be acquired with the token.
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Thank you, baddmoonrizin, that makes the free ship token worth what went into earning it in the first place
Is this fact or implied? I don't remember seeing any kind of restriction on what kind of ship we could get for free in the blog. In fact, it says in the blog that the token "will allow you claim a free Tier 6 Starship of your choice from the Zen Store."
Now, I get they will likely exclude newer ships for a time from being able to be claimed for free but eventually add them in. The only reason I bring this up is because I know someone who already owns every T6 CStore ship in the game and will likely be very ticked off when a new T6 CStore ship is released and they are unable to get it.
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Yeah, that's what I get for not reading past a post that catches my attention. Seems others are saying what I figured about newer ships eventually being allowed, but it's still nice to see I'm not the only person wondering about this.
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> We got a nicely detailed explanation when they discussed it in the livestream. Anything marked as "new" is off the list of options. But only while "new".
Ah, I misunderstood then. But it's also weirdly worded, in my weak defense 😜
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> Is this fact or implied? (...)
See my other posting. In the livestream, it was said "new" ships are excluded, but this didn't mean what I thought it meant. They coumd have said "ships during their introduction period" or something like this.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I'm disappointed, but not surprised. That said, in the end, this is just a game. There's nothing 'Evil' going on here. Some tof the hyperbole here is just over the top.
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I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed they did this. I'm not surprised by the overt power creep either really. I'd have been perfectly fine with a 4/4 T6 Connie and a 5/3 D7 Battlecruiser with one or no hanger bays and middle of the road stats if they were a c-store bundle. I would have gotten that in a heartbeat. I'm definitely not gonna pay real money for this nonsense though.
I think the thing that makes it so "excusable" to put in some kind of lockbox or Promo box is that in-universe, it's a really old ship and extremely unlikely to still be used or retrofit for the 25th century.
asking for them would be silly!
>
> I think the thing that makes it so "excusable" to put in some kind of lockbox or Promo box is that in-universe, it's a really old ship and extremely unlikely to still be used or retrofit for the 25th century.
Ironically, the blog for these ships says they are actually NEW ships based on the old design. That is the IN universe explaination.
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> Ironically, the blog for these ships says they are actually NEW ships based on the old design. That is the IN universe explaination.
>
Which I personally think is a awful way to handle this. Sure, Cryptic couldn't have forseen that we would only get prequels and post-Nemesis content would wait a long time to get officially continued, but they shoukd just go with "retrofits" or no in-universe explanation at all. "Look we found old ships and their designs, which we forgot about, are way better than everything we build in the 25th century! Lets build old ships again!". Meh.
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edit:
Excelsior too now that I think about it
As I understand it the in-universe explanation goes like this: Yard 39 lays down the superstructure of a new Constitution class to the DSC design -> Baryon Radiation storm occurs -> 200 years later, modern Starfleet engineers find the space frame and decide to experiment with it putting in the latest technology and taking advantage of the miniaturization that has occured over the last 200 years -> Surprised by the effectiveness of what they have just created, they submit the new blueprints to the SFCE for further proiduction -> Miracle Worker Flight Deck Cruiser.
So, it's not that the discovered 23rd century tech is better in this case, but that they wanted to see what could be done with an over-sized Connie frame and 25th century technology.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Now I have no data on how much older R&D ships get chosen from boxes months/years later, but I'd think popping them in the C-store for a bit more than the normal T6 ship might get them more money. Especially since so many players have been burned by the RNG boxes that they don't do them anymore.
To be honest, most of those ships were in the game before loot boxes were. Who knows where the Galaxy or Sovereign would have been if loot boxes were here at launch.
Uh we did get the T6 sovereign class..That class also bore the name Enterprise..So its only the connie thats eluded everyone mostly..
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This release is just full of disappointment, isn't it?
There probably wouldn't even be free rank progression versions of them...
I would have sold my organs to get the SOV..Thankfully it didn't go the connie route..
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It's nice that it's not going to be the most common ship in the game. I can't justify (personally) spending what I did to get the Crossfield, but I don't begrudge anyone doing that. Life, as always, is about choice. I chose to buy 151 lockbox keys to get a Crossfield. No one forced me. I don't regret it, I still use and love the ship. I see it as my big money contribution to the continuation of STO - and I wouldn't have it any other way
Both the DSC Constitution and D7 are beautiful, and plenty of people are going to have these ships in game. I will see them. Maybe we'll get a mission with them and get to interact with them
People really do need to calm down about it. As much as many of us (myself included) hoped that these would be C-Store ships, the chances of that were always going to be small. If STO was a sub-only based game, things might be different. But it isn't. I don't know why people have to get so threatening and narly about all this. Sheesh - STO is a GAME - and a free one as well. If you want the awesome stuff, you have to pay. This isn't a new thing. It's been like this for a while.
In terms of the Free T6 Ship Voucher - people need to pay attention. There is a lot of accurate information being posted about how to use them, what (if any restrictions there will be) and the fact that they don't have to be used immediately and can be saved for future use.
Basically people; grow up.
Cryptic can make a lot more money this way.
More money is better than less money.
The money pays the salaries of the developers, leading to more development of the game, more content, more ship releases.
More game development is better than less game development.
Want more game? Allow them to make more revenue using loot boxes (which you can safely ignore if you so desire) or insist they abolish their free to play model. And return to subscription only.
I for one would rather allow them the revenue to continue to allow me to play for free.
Want less game? Keep calling for the abolishment of a guaranteed revenue stream, calling them "cash grabs" (as if that's a bad thing, again, they MUST MAKE CASH if you want to continue to play) and settle in for content droughts.
I know there may be other ways to increase revenue, but it would definitely be harder. I for one would rather avoid going back to content droughts.
C- store would be nice, sure. But calling for cutting off a major revenue source, which would hurt the development of the game you seem to care so much about, is not the answer.
It's really not that complicated.
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk