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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 156 Arc User
    Since this rep is 'late' vs the launch of DSC stuff, will we get a one time lump of marks to compensate?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 37,253 Arc User
    westx211 wrote: »
    My suggestion is to compound all normal rep marks into a single universal rep mark that works for all reps (or atleast all the older reps) but keep the elite marks like the isomorphic injectors seperate so it still encourages you to play different content if you want gear, but makes things much easier to keep track of.
    This would only really work if they removed the rep project that lets you convert 100 normal marks into an elite mark daily.

    Maybe keep it but restrict the project to T5 rep or something like that
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  • tobywitczaktobywitczak Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    duasyn wrote: »
    Since this rep is 'late' vs the launch of DSC stuff, will we get a one time lump of marks to compensate?

    Can I get an Up vote for this? It seems to have been buried by other posts not related to the topic.
    Let me chime in my solution.

    For Anyone who completed, Battle at the Binary Stars, Pahvo Dissension, Peril Over Pahvo, and/or Operation Riposte TFOs, should get 250 marks retroactively per TFO (That’s a 1000 Marks for all of them so far) The marks can be claimed by EACH Character, NOT just the first one.

    This jumpstarts the Reputation System for Discovery Legends Reputation! As it gets most people thought most of Tier V (within 225 Marks of Tier VI)
  • herrgis#1415 herrgis Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    istalon1 wrote: »
    Please, PLEASE add something that makes levelling the reputations more bearable, though. For example a 10 day reputation project for 10 times the cost and rewards of the 1 day project, or an option to autoreslot and autofill the 1 day project as long as one has the required marks.
    The increase of the maximum tier from 5 to 6 was already unbearable with all of the reputation projects on 10 toons. If I have to do it again for 100 days to max out this rep, I'll probably just ignore reputations now.

    I have a solution if you don't want to the Discovery rep on 10 toons.

    Just focus in on one toon and get them up to T5. At tier 5, the rep will apply account wide sponsorship to the other 9 toons, so the grind for them is only 20 days to tier 5, 50 to tier 6 total.

    Upon tier 6, there will also be a project unlock for an account wide discount of all gear.


    Vegeta has the right approach {respectful nod to veg}. Of course you can also choose to only complete the rep on the Captain you intend to use the items on. If you're not going to use the rep items, you can also choose to ignore the rep. I must have missed the language in the EULA where it says that you are required to complete every rep, to T6, on every toon. ;)

    As far as I know this rep system is optional (grind you can choose to inflict upon yourself and most of us will do it anyway), so it's probably not quite 'unbearable torture'. :p

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  • tomilaktomilak Member Posts: 378 Arc User
    well as of now, Discovery is Lost In Space LOL. flying thru the great void called the time space continuum.
  • mamif3mamif3 Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 2,835 Arc User
    edited May 9
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    Not looking forward to just another reputation, but there are a few things that look nice in the space set & have some different abilities so nice to see something new with items. Not sure if I'll immediately do this reputation due to catch up & keeping up as a casual player.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,505 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
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    spiritborn wrote: »
    Records can be unsealed, in fact if you read the dev blogs that's exactly what happened after the Hur'q war.

    That said I doubt starfleet actually unpersoned the crew or the ship just removed the stuff about sporedrive or section 31 involvement, since too many people have seen or heard of USS Discovery or Micheal Burnham for it to be possible to simply delete them from records without raising massive red flags.

    It's likely that starfleet records mention that a Crossfield-class USS Discovery did indeed exist and had crew we saw in the series but it was more or less "normal" starfleet science ship and a test bed for new engine technologies along with rest of the Crossfield class ships. However with the loss of the USS Glenn during the Klingon war and loss of the USS DIscovery herself soon after while investigating a series of spacial anomalies (with the crew of USS Enterprise witnessing that the Discovery was lost with all hands on board), the Crossfield-class was deemed a failure and no further ships of that class were made.

    Note that only mention to the sporedrive was "new engine technologies" which starfleet could easily spin as "improved warpdrive", thus achiving the thing Spock wanted (no one is gonna investigate the fate the Discovery and discover the sporedrive or the timecrystals, since the "official" fate of the Discovery isn't that atypical for a starfleet vessel), while not leaving a massive gap in Starfleet records that practically screams to be investigated.

    Or just that Discovery's existance was classified top secret, and there is an extra layer of Security on what exactly she did. I mean Spock did basically suggest that just speaking about Discovery should be right up there with Talos IV for all intents and purposes. However after the arrival of J'ula... the records were unsealed. Also with the recovery of ships from Yard 39, a whole lot of lostech was recovered.
    the problem is that Discovery and her crew were too well known, to most alpha/beta quadrant citizens Talos system is just one system among many, so "don't go here due classified reasons" wouldn't really raise an eye brow.

    On the other hand it was implied that Burnham was known to general population thanks to her involvement with start of the klingon war. Also Discovery was vital in ending the Klingon war, so that name would be known to the general population of the federation.

    Just making Discovery and anything to do with her would leave a huge and obvious gap in federation records that would attract the attention of Tal Shiar or similar factions.

    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,505 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Well, I'll be focusing on obtaining this - it'll suit my Buran class very nicely.
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 2,835 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Well, I'll be focusing on obtaining this - it'll suit my Buran class very nicely.
    It does look fun. I keep wondering how much hull the Buran will have with all the new consoles which have 10%+ hull each. From what I can see we can get 120% if not 150% with traits bonus to hull. I am planning on running with zero bridge officer healing powers.
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

  • g1yni3g1yni3 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    for me, I now have all of my Characters now at Level 65 and what I wish for STO to do is to put a level cap to level 70 or 80 and give us T6 ships and high level Space/Ground Gear.
    which do a great deal of Damage to enemies and as for the Reputations make it so the Teir goes up to Level 8 then cap the Reputation Level to just Level 8 when you reach Level 80 in game. That way those who have Level 65 Characters have something to do along with still receiving Specialisation points as well.
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    well as of now, Discovery is Lost In Space LOL. flying thru the great void called the time space continuum.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 33,883 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.
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  • darthvicious666darthvicious666 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 10
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc

    Wide Angle Dual Beam Array - 135` arc
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    No synergy with Tac abilities would be accurate, or even with most Eng abilities. But it has all sorts of synergy with Sci abilities. It also overlaps a bit with any rear mounted beam arrays.

    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.
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  • tomilaktomilak Member Posts: 378 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    I have made the conscious decision to discontinue and stop all use of reputation period. The reputation system is no longer feasable to complete at this time.
  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,428 Arc User
    edited May 12
    I...kind of want everything in this box?

    I've been waiting for an actual Starfleet focused rep for years. Everything looks good. Shouldn't have taken a decade and a new Star Trek show, but........

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    I'll probably grind this out on my main and my Discovery toon and do everyone else like I always do. By using general marks boxes over a longer period of time.
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    Were you here for the Solanae Dyson Sphere launch? Season 8.

    That's where they started the commendations that would give you all you'd need to start a daily rep project, on even the tiniest missions that rewarded marks. Don't know why they decided that wasn't worthwhile but I suppose they though the Daily Mark Boxes were sufficient. It was also the time where they created the rep discount token after you hit tier 5.

    I think they feel that they hit a balance.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.

    Well the idea was that by completely erasing Discovery they would never give Control the ability to find it in the future when/if it finished its gestation and became Skynet. Seeing as how Control at some point long before the 32nd century has wiped out all technologically advanced life in the galaxy. I'm presuming that will resolve itself as the Sphere Data becomes Zora.

    Until they can be certain that Control will never evolve, knowledge of Discovery's whereabouts must remain not only top secret, but non-existant. Certainly easier after the lifetimes of the people with direct knowledge come to an end. Time traveling historians aside.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,106 Arc User
    edited May 13
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    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited May 14
    Does Battle of Binary Stars have an Advanced or Elite version by now? If not, that might explain why they don't mention it, it's already a Choice of Marks mission, and Normal Queues don't give you Elite Marks.
    Yes, as does Defense of Starbase One, also another "choice of marks" TFO.

    And yet Defense of Starbase One is getting the marks and elite marks.

    After tomorrow when this stuff hits Starbase One will not longer be a "choice of marks" tfo, it will only offer the usual one mark type (DSC) or fleet marks.

  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited May 14
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Not only that, it would help considerably in keeping the things on target while flying one of the real hippos (like the Atrox carrier for instance).

    What I do not understand is why they are trying to call something that fires bolts like a cannon a BEAM bank. Twin BOLT bank would be more like it.
    saber1973a wrote: »
    ...
    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


    That makes a lot of sense considering DSC does not have any other types as yet.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,293 Arc User
    Pulse phasers got the name pretty accurate but also locked it into those specific ones being gamblebox weapons.
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 14
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,106 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    While I did not see any episode of the Discovery, I heard that the main ship of the series (named "Discovery") uses special "spore drive" for tactical FTL jumping around, which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 14
    saber1973a wrote: »
    (...) which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
    Sounds like fluidic space to me ;) Ok thx for the explanation. I did check into getting All Access last week - the reviews pretty much confirmed my concern, that the portfolio is not yet deep enough given the cost. Perhaps at some point CBS will consider a partner agreement with an industry aggregator like Netflix. Until then DSC will remain a mystery to me with no real sentimental attachment.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,401 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).

    It is not regular space though some of the spores get into in the normal space of myriad timelines and dimentions, it is something more like the subspace the Iconians use with their gateways crossed with slipspace from the Andromeda series.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 9,041 Arc User
    As I thought. The Discovery TFOs are now awarding only a choice between Discovery or Fleet Marks. Now with Blue Moon Red Alerts, unless there is a TFO Event, Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.

    They waited until Discovery TFOs arrived to add Gamma Marks to any Choice Marks awards. They also removed ubiquitous Red Alerts at the same time, making Discovery TFOs the only reliable source of Choice Marks. Then when Discovery Marks arrive, those TFOs are now 'one-trick ponies'.

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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.
    Except for the Random TFO system and Personal Endeavors.

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