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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    well as of now, Discovery is Lost In Space LOL. flying thru the great void called the time space continuum.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.
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  • darthvicious666darthvicious666 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc

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    No synergy with Tac abilities would be accurate, or even with most Eng abilities. But it has all sorts of synergy with Sci abilities. It also overlaps a bit with any rear mounted beam arrays.

    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.
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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    I have made the conscious decision to discontinue and stop all use of reputation period. The reputation system is no longer feasable to complete at this time.
  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    I...kind of want everything in this box?

    I've been waiting for an actual Starfleet focused rep for years. Everything looks good. Shouldn't have taken a decade and a new Star Trek show, but........

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    I'll probably grind this out on my main and my Discovery toon and do everyone else like I always do. By using general marks boxes over a longer period of time.
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    Were you here for the Solanae Dyson Sphere launch? Season 8.

    That's where they started the commendations that would give you all you'd need to start a daily rep project, on even the tiniest missions that rewarded marks. Don't know why they decided that wasn't worthwhile but I suppose they though the Daily Mark Boxes were sufficient. It was also the time where they created the rep discount token after you hit tier 5.

    I think they feel that they hit a balance.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.

    Well the idea was that by completely erasing Discovery they would never give Control the ability to find it in the future when/if it finished its gestation and became Skynet. Seeing as how Control at some point long before the 32nd century has wiped out all technologically advanced life in the galaxy. I'm presuming that will resolve itself as the Sphere Data becomes Zora.

    Until they can be certain that Control will never evolve, knowledge of Discovery's whereabouts must remain not only top secret, but non-existant. Certainly easier after the lifetimes of the people with direct knowledge come to an end. Time traveling historians aside.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited May 2019
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    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Does Battle of Binary Stars have an Advanced or Elite version by now? If not, that might explain why they don't mention it, it's already a Choice of Marks mission, and Normal Queues don't give you Elite Marks.
    Yes, as does Defense of Starbase One, also another "choice of marks" TFO.

    And yet Defense of Starbase One is getting the marks and elite marks.

    After tomorrow when this stuff hits Starbase One will not longer be a "choice of marks" tfo, it will only offer the usual one mark type (DSC) or fleet marks.

  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Not only that, it would help considerably in keeping the things on target while flying one of the real hippos (like the Atrox carrier for instance).

    What I do not understand is why they are trying to call something that fires bolts like a cannon a BEAM bank. Twin BOLT bank would be more like it.
    saber1973a wrote: »
    ...
    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


    That makes a lot of sense considering DSC does not have any other types as yet.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Pulse phasers got the name pretty accurate but also locked it into those specific ones being gamblebox weapons.
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited May 2019
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    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    While I did not see any episode of the Discovery, I heard that the main ship of the series (named "Discovery") uses special "spore drive" for tactical FTL jumping around, which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    saber1973a wrote: »
    (...) which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
    Sounds like fluidic space to me ;) Ok thx for the explanation. I did check into getting All Access last week - the reviews pretty much confirmed my concern, that the portfolio is not yet deep enough given the cost. Perhaps at some point CBS will consider a partner agreement with an industry aggregator like Netflix. Until then DSC will remain a mystery to me with no real sentimental attachment.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).

    It is not regular space though some of the spores get into in the normal space of myriad timelines and dimentions, it is something more like the subspace the Iconians use with their gateways crossed with slipspace from the Andromeda series.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    As I thought. The Discovery TFOs are now awarding only a choice between Discovery or Fleet Marks. Now with Blue Moon Red Alerts, unless there is a TFO Event, Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.

    They waited until Discovery TFOs arrived to add Gamma Marks to any Choice Marks awards. They also removed ubiquitous Red Alerts at the same time, making Discovery TFOs the only reliable source of Choice Marks. Then when Discovery Marks arrive, those TFOs are now 'one-trick ponies'.

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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.
    Except for the Random TFO system and Personal Endeavors.

    The RTFOs need serious work, they are a morass plagued by AFK and other exploits, and even when everyone is actually doing the scenarios they are often shorthanded because of leavers (the ground ones especially) which can drag the non-timered scenarios out considerably. They need to do something like announce what the RTFO is on the accept or deny popup so people pass before the team is committed rather than half the people bailing in disgust when the scenario starts.

    Personal endeavors are not reliable sources of mult-choice boxes, I ran all three of them yesterday on one character and did not get a single mark box from the lot for instance. Even when you do get them it represents a significant reduction in available marks since they used to add to the TFO+Daily awards instead of replacing them.

    All in all it slows down the already glacial timegated reputation system which can be a considerable gumption trap for those who planned builds around the now-rare mark types, especially when they are already bored with the scenario-dropped gear they use while grinding the reps, and taints the otherwise welcome addition of new gear to try with frustration and aggravation.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Are Discovery Marks included as choices? Are Endeavor or RTFO Marks Choice Boxes eligible to invoke the Daily Marks Bonus?

    I venture to guess that when the Summer Event releases, the Monkey and Bird Marks Choice Boxes will not have Discovery Marks as a selection. (It could very well be that Gamma isn't there either at first and will need to be added during an Update).

    The chance of a Marks Choice Box from an Endeavor is mighty slim indeed. EC, Mats, and some Dilitium are the overwhelming favorites from the RNG there.

    There is no Daily Marks Bonus Box availible from the Blue Moon Red Alerts either.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Just curious whether the Mind Meld Device is actually an equippable Device or if it takes a weapon slot.

    I'd be disappointed if it took a weapon slot, and I'd be forever agitated if it only swapped out Palm Strike for Engage when its your active weapon.

    Other than that little detail, overall it looks nice.

    Well... we already have those melee gloves...
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    I thought those were used by fathers to slap around there sons named Will. ;)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Are Discovery Marks included as choices? Are Endeavor or RTFO Marks Choice Boxes eligible to invoke the Daily Marks Bonus?

    I venture to guess that when the Summer Event releases, the Monkey and Bird Marks Choice Boxes will not have Discovery Marks as a selection. (It could very well be that Gamma isn't there either at first and will need to be added during an Update).
    Interestingly the RTFO bonus box does let you get Discovery already.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    The RTFOs need serious work, they are a morass plagued by AFK and other exploits, and even when everyone is actually doing the scenarios they are often shorthanded because of leavers (the ground ones especially) which can drag the non-timered scenarios out considerably. They need to do something like announce what the RTFO is on the accept or deny popup so people pass before the team is committed rather than half the people bailing in disgust when the scenario starts.
    I almost never get AFKers or leavers when doing RTFOs, even during ground ones.
    All in all it slows down the already glacial timegated reputation system
    If you think the reputation system is "glacial" then you haven't played many MMOs. In comparison to most MMOs, The reputation system is rather speedy.

    Maybe it is a time thing, I tend to be on more at odd hours in the middle of the night than during the day, but it still is a problem for people during the off-peak hours even if it isn't anymore for primetime.

    As far as the DSC rep itself goes, it looks like a good tanky rep that might even breathe some life into the old T5 ships reguardless of whether it helps bring the usual role trinity to STO or not.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    The unholy trinity used to be a thing in STO and then they ditched it in favour of doing a catch all the skill tree and paring professions down to a few abilities and the very rare time where it had an small impact on what you did such as the recent disco mission or the satellites in the awful pahvo space tfo.

    This tanky rep set might just as easily be their response to complaints over the damage some npc's can dish out such as the terrans with their 15-20k a pop torpedo salvos.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    Am I crazy to predict that the DL Rep will be used largely for salvaged item?
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,247 Arc User
    Am I crazy to predict that the DL Rep will be used largely for salvaged item?
    Its turned into my fav rep of them all. Loving the hull boost items and hull regen items. They let me tank with zero bridge officer powers even in advanced/Elite.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,792 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    Am I crazy to predict that the DL Rep will be used largely for salvaged item?
    Its turned into my fav rep of them all. Loving the hull boost items and hull regen items. They let me tank with zero bridge officer powers even in advanced/Elite.

    I am hoping it will allow me to run a Ha'nom in higher level content without it feeling like a big bumbling soapbubble the way they do now :)
  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    Is this intentional or a oversight ? I've noticed this new rep is only giving 2500 progression points for the 20 hour projects instead of the 5000 that sponsored reps give. Makes hitting tier 6 a very very very long way away
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    Is this intentional or a oversight ? I've noticed this new rep is only giving 2500 progression points for the 20 hour projects instead of the 5000 that sponsored reps give. Makes hitting tier 6 a very very very long way away

    It will give 2500 until you reach T5 with one character - then it will give 5000 for all.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    It will take the Character running the Reputation first 70 days to reach Tier 6. All other Characters on that Account will require 50 days.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    Am I crazy to predict that the DL Rep will be used largely for salvaged item?
    Its turned into my fav rep of them all. Loving the hull boost items and hull regen items. They let me tank with zero bridge officer powers even in advanced/Elite.
    I am hoping it will allow me to run a Ha'nom in higher level content without it feeling like a big bumbling soapbubble the way they do now :)
    Yeah the random "junk" items are equal to fleet gear. The only question is if they fit your build.
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  • mikeblackwolfmikeblackwolf Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    I don't know if this has been mentioned before but the projectile weapon (Dark Matter Quantum Torpedo Launcher) was a TNG era tech, I was kinda hoping it would be a era correct Photon torpedo, if nothing else it's a reason to use photons <3
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I don't know if this has been mentioned before but the projectile weapon (Dark Matter Quantum Torpedo Launcher) was a TNG era tech, I was kinda hoping it would be a era correct Photon torpedo, if nothing else it's a reason to use photons <3
    Well, these are modern weapons built using specs from back then.
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