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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    Since this rep is 'late' vs the launch of DSC stuff, will we get a one time lump of marks to compensate?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,205 Arc User
    westx211 wrote: »
    My suggestion is to compound all normal rep marks into a single universal rep mark that works for all reps (or atleast all the older reps) but keep the elite marks like the isomorphic injectors seperate so it still encourages you to play different content if you want gear, but makes things much easier to keep track of.
    This would only really work if they removed the rep project that lets you convert 100 normal marks into an elite mark daily.

    Maybe keep it but restrict the project to T5 rep or something like that
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  • tobywitczaktobywitczak Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    duasyn wrote: »
    Since this rep is 'late' vs the launch of DSC stuff, will we get a one time lump of marks to compensate?

    Can I get an Up vote for this? It seems to have been buried by other posts not related to the topic.
    Let me chime in my solution.

    For Anyone who completed, Battle at the Binary Stars, Pahvo Dissension, Peril Over Pahvo, and/or Operation Riposte TFOs, should get 250 marks retroactively per TFO (That’s a 1000 Marks for all of them so far) The marks can be claimed by EACH Character, NOT just the first one.

    This jumpstarts the Reputation System for Discovery Legends Reputation! As it gets most people thought most of Tier V (within 225 Marks of Tier VI)
  • herrgis#1415 herrgis Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    istalon1 wrote: »
    Please, PLEASE add something that makes levelling the reputations more bearable, though. For example a 10 day reputation project for 10 times the cost and rewards of the 1 day project, or an option to autoreslot and autofill the 1 day project as long as one has the required marks.
    The increase of the maximum tier from 5 to 6 was already unbearable with all of the reputation projects on 10 toons. If I have to do it again for 100 days to max out this rep, I'll probably just ignore reputations now.

    I have a solution if you don't want to the Discovery rep on 10 toons.

    Just focus in on one toon and get them up to T5. At tier 5, the rep will apply account wide sponsorship to the other 9 toons, so the grind for them is only 20 days to tier 5, 50 to tier 6 total.

    Upon tier 6, there will also be a project unlock for an account wide discount of all gear.


    Vegeta has the right approach {respectful nod to veg}. Of course you can also choose to only complete the rep on the Captain you intend to use the items on. If you're not going to use the rep items, you can also choose to ignore the rep. I must have missed the language in the EULA where it says that you are required to complete every rep, to T6, on every toon. ;)

    As far as I know this rep system is optional (grind you can choose to inflict upon yourself and most of us will do it anyway), so it's probably not quite 'unbearable torture'. :p

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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    well as of now, Discovery is Lost In Space LOL. flying thru the great void called the time space continuum.
  • mamif3mamif3 Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,165 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Not looking forward to just another reputation, but there are a few things that look nice in the space set & have some different abilities so nice to see something new with items. Not sure if I'll immediately do this reputation due to catch up & keeping up as a casual player.
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,165 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Well, I'll be focusing on obtaining this - it'll suit my Buran class very nicely.
    It does look fun. I keep wondering how much hull the Buran will have with all the new consoles which have 10%+ hull each. From what I can see we can get 120% if not 150% with traits bonus to hull. I am planning on running with zero bridge officer healing powers.
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

  • g1yni3g1yni3 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    for me, I now have all of my Characters now at Level 65 and what I wish for STO to do is to put a level cap to level 70 or 80 and give us T6 ships and high level Space/Ground Gear.
    which do a great deal of Damage to enemies and as for the Reputations make it so the Teir goes up to Level 8 then cap the Reputation Level to just Level 8 when you reach Level 80 in game. That way those who have Level 65 Characters have something to do along with still receiving Specialisation points as well.
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    well as of now, Discovery is Lost In Space LOL. flying thru the great void called the time space continuum.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.
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  • darthvicious666darthvicious666 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc

    Wide Angle Dual Beam Array - 135` arc
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    No synergy with Tac abilities would be accurate, or even with most Eng abilities. But it has all sorts of synergy with Sci abilities. It also overlaps a bit with any rear mounted beam arrays.

    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.
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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    I have made the conscious decision to discontinue and stop all use of reputation period. The reputation system is no longer feasable to complete at this time.
  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    I...kind of want everything in this box?

    I've been waiting for an actual Starfleet focused rep for years. Everything looks good. Shouldn't have taken a decade and a new Star Trek show, but........

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    I'll probably grind this out on my main and my Discovery toon and do everyone else like I always do. By using general marks boxes over a longer period of time.
    tomilak wrote: »
    It would help if we only had to do reps on one toon and the rest can be sponsored to tier 6 without grinding.

    I genuinely do wish that this was the case, but the cynic in me understands that Cryptic won't help us out in this regard. Alas!

    Were you here for the Solanae Dyson Sphere launch? Season 8.

    That's where they started the commendations that would give you all you'd need to start a daily rep project, on even the tiniest missions that rewarded marks. Don't know why they decided that wasn't worthwhile but I suppose they though the Daily Mark Boxes were sufficient. It was also the time where they created the rep discount token after you hit tier 5.

    I think they feel that they hit a balance.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Again though, the offical record will likely reflect what Starfleet was told by Pike, Spock, Una, Ash and undoubtedly anyone else they questioned: "Discovery was destroyed with all hands".
    As of what year? There's really no way to be sure how long it will remain in the future.

    Well the idea was that by completely erasing Discovery they would never give Control the ability to find it in the future when/if it finished its gestation and became Skynet. Seeing as how Control at some point long before the 32nd century has wiped out all technologically advanced life in the galaxy. I'm presuming that will resolve itself as the Sphere Data becomes Zora.

    Until they can be certain that Control will never evolve, knowledge of Discovery's whereabouts must remain not only top secret, but non-existant. Certainly easier after the lifetimes of the people with direct knowledge come to an end. Time traveling historians aside.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,224 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    ...
    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Does Battle of Binary Stars have an Advanced or Elite version by now? If not, that might explain why they don't mention it, it's already a Choice of Marks mission, and Normal Queues don't give you Elite Marks.
    Yes, as does Defense of Starbase One, also another "choice of marks" TFO.

    And yet Defense of Starbase One is getting the marks and elite marks.

    After tomorrow when this stuff hits Starbase One will not longer be a "choice of marks" tfo, it will only offer the usual one mark type (DSC) or fleet marks.

  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    mamif3 wrote: »
    What is the point on having a 135 degree firing arc on the dual beam bank? This has no synergy with anything. Why does the wide angle trait on cannons and torps double their firing arc but this does not? This would be far more interesting with a 180 firing arc
    135 would still help in a wide arc torpedo boat. 2 or 3 wide arc torps with 2 wide arc heavy dual beams and mines in the rear. It would work better then using 90 arc beams and do more damage then the 250 arc beams.

    I kind of like the idea of a wide arc build like this based around hull regeneration.

    Not only that, it would help considerably in keeping the things on target while flying one of the real hippos (like the Atrox carrier for instance).

    What I do not understand is why they are trying to call something that fires bolts like a cannon a BEAM bank. Twin BOLT bank would be more like it.
    saber1973a wrote: »
    ...
    I'm wondering what flavor it comes in once you hit Disc Rep T6.

    At Tribble server it got
    Disruptor type
    option.


    That makes a lot of sense considering DSC does not have any other types as yet.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Pulse phasers got the name pretty accurate but also locked it into those specific ones being gamblebox weapons.
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,224 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    While I did not see any episode of the Discovery, I heard that the main ship of the series (named "Discovery") uses special "spore drive" for tactical FTL jumping around, which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    saber1973a wrote: »
    (...) which uses some kind of fungus network nested in other dimension…
    ...does that mean their subspace is rooted through? :o
    Sounds like fluidic space to me ;) Ok thx for the explanation. I did check into getting All Access last week - the reviews pretty much confirmed my concern, that the portfolio is not yet deep enough given the cost. Perhaps at some point CBS will consider a partner agreement with an industry aggregator like Netflix. Until then DSC will remain a mystery to me with no real sentimental attachment.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    P.stellaviatori Spores
    For those of us who can't justify the cost of CBS All Access, would someone please explain what this means and when did DSC become the fungus amongus.

    You remember how Star Trek occasionally has something like "space whales" like the Gekli and other space-based lifeforms like the Crystalline Entity? P.stellaviatori is basically the plant or fungus equivalent. A fungus that lives in space (or subspace?), forming a "Mycelium Network". The Spore Drive is an attempt to use this network for FTL travel. (But there are apparently other applications).

    It is not regular space though some of the spores get into in the normal space of myriad timelines and dimentions, it is something more like the subspace the Iconians use with their gateways crossed with slipspace from the Andromeda series.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    As I thought. The Discovery TFOs are now awarding only a choice between Discovery or Fleet Marks. Now with Blue Moon Red Alerts, unless there is a TFO Event, Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.

    They waited until Discovery TFOs arrived to add Gamma Marks to any Choice Marks awards. They also removed ubiquitous Red Alerts at the same time, making Discovery TFOs the only reliable source of Choice Marks. Then when Discovery Marks arrive, those TFOs are now 'one-trick ponies'.

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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Choice Mark Boxes are a thing of the past.
    Except for the Random TFO system and Personal Endeavors.

    The RTFOs need serious work, they are a morass plagued by AFK and other exploits, and even when everyone is actually doing the scenarios they are often shorthanded because of leavers (the ground ones especially) which can drag the non-timered scenarios out considerably. They need to do something like announce what the RTFO is on the accept or deny popup so people pass before the team is committed rather than half the people bailing in disgust when the scenario starts.

    Personal endeavors are not reliable sources of mult-choice boxes, I ran all three of them yesterday on one character and did not get a single mark box from the lot for instance. Even when you do get them it represents a significant reduction in available marks since they used to add to the TFO+Daily awards instead of replacing them.

    All in all it slows down the already glacial timegated reputation system which can be a considerable gumption trap for those who planned builds around the now-rare mark types, especially when they are already bored with the scenario-dropped gear they use while grinding the reps, and taints the otherwise welcome addition of new gear to try with frustration and aggravation.

  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Are Discovery Marks included as choices? Are Endeavor or RTFO Marks Choice Boxes eligible to invoke the Daily Marks Bonus?

    I venture to guess that when the Summer Event releases, the Monkey and Bird Marks Choice Boxes will not have Discovery Marks as a selection. (It could very well be that Gamma isn't there either at first and will need to be added during an Update).

    The chance of a Marks Choice Box from an Endeavor is mighty slim indeed. EC, Mats, and some Dilitium are the overwhelming favorites from the RNG there.

    There is no Daily Marks Bonus Box availible from the Blue Moon Red Alerts either.
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