I am looking forward to it. I have an Alien Tac KDF-aligned who is itching to get her hands on the KDF pilot escorts.
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Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Well, Romulan captains can already fly the ally ships of Tiers 1-4, I believe, so it's only the latter Tiers that are getting opened-up. That's great! More A.S.S. cards are always welcomed, and I expect access to more starship traits (and consoles?). All good. If people want to keep their Roms flying Rom ships, nothing wrong with that (I know I will). I love the Rom ships' appearances (just hate the singularity mechanic, but whatevs).
So, when can my Fed/KDF fly Rom ships? Or Fed and KDF fly KDF and Fed ships, respectively? Seriously, let's Shaka these Walls Down! Long before Legacy of Romulus, I made an Fed Alien character to appear like a Romulan, complete with Rom-looking BOffs (and eventually actually Roms when the Fleet Embassy arrived). I'd love to get her flying in an actual Romulan ship now.
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..I wish I could have been there at the meeting(s) where this call was made(with a bucket of popcorn in my lap).
To those who have to comb through the all the ships and make this work.. you have my sympathy.
(As for the news itself: I am entirely apathetic. The design calls for this 'game' have long-since ostracized and inhibited my excitement and invested interest.)
Next on the list for the Alliance is allowing KDF off-season access to Risa.
Pretty please, with a cherry on top!
Also, how about a Klingon equivalent of Risa? Originally Picard was going to spend his mandatory vacation time on a Hell-class planet rather than Risa, but it argued he'd actually enjoy rock climbing in extreme heat than lounging around on a pleasure planet.
I'm sure that the Ferengi would be happy to provide 'luxury' shuttle service between both planets, for a modest fee, of course!
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I admit I'm a bit dubious about this. Mostly because of the cross faction ship packs. The traits from the ships that don't have counterparts will be nice, but then we get into the issue of ships with the same traits such as the Valiant and the Maleum, or the Arbiter and Morrigu. Its kinda doubling up and... I kinda don't see the benefit there.
Honestly I would have expected there to be a lot more exceptions, namely the cross faction ships with counterparts such as the Valiant and Maleum.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be getting some more science and engineering for my Romulan, its just... like I said, its doubling up on ships in a way.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Frankly there have been more than enough voices over the last 5 years that something like this was bound to happen and now the Romulan faction isn't really a faction any more. damned it you do or don't in the end.
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It's real, it's the beggining. I really can wait to fly a bird of prey from my fedie. I believe it's time we can fly ships with battlecloak. It's only fair we benefit from this tranzaction
If you guys at Cryptic want to hand off Starfleet & KDF ships to the puppet Rommie Republic characters. Why don't you allow Federation & Klingon characters to use standard Romulan Bridge Offcers with Superior Operative & Subterfuge traits that can stack 5x 2% Crit Hit = 10% total, 5x 5% Crit Damage = 25% Total, 5x 15% Cloak Recharge Speed = 75% Total and 5x 2.5 Defense Rating = 12.5 Total, which Romulan Characters have been out Crit Hiting, out Crit Damage, Recharge Cloak Faster and out Dodging any Starfleet & KDF characters, So give us access to those Rommie BOff's if Rommie Characters gonna use ships they not suppose to use in canon anyways...
Yes, I am fully aware that KDF and Starfleet Characters have already have access to Rommie BOff's from Fleet Embassy. Fact is Fleet Embassy Rommie BOff's compare to that of the Standard Rommie BOff's is inferior in every way, First off Standard Rommie BOff's can use up to 2 space traits which is Superior Operative & Subterfuge, while Embassy BOff's have only 1 space trait Superior Operative or Superior Subterfuge, Second... Embassy BOff's space traits are only limited to a certain station like Superior Operative only on Tac stations, Superior Subterfuge on Eng or Sci Sation... which means depending on the type of ship your KDF or Fed toon have you can only stack 1 trait operative or subterfuge 2-3x normal max, while Romulan characters stack both traits 5x max.
Better yet, Why don't you people in Cryptic redo the Fleet Embassy Rommie BOff's by giving both Superior Operative & Superior Subterfuge traits together on each station, i bet you that KDF, Feds and Rommies players alike will be interested in buy them instead of giving complete bias towards Rommie players thats been on this game for so long in terms of combat.
I hope that Feds and KDFs get to fly Romulan ships as well. More importantly, I hope they get access to the Romulan A.S.S. Cards. I am concerned that Romulans will be getting more than their Fed and KDF counterparts.
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A move like that does not come as benefit to the players there are buiseness decisions involved.
Hardliners like me did only buy Romulan Ships and skipped anything FrED related Cryptic certainly is not happy about that spending resources and money into one crappy FrED cruiser after another and not getting them sold is bad RoI and in addition for all the 9 packs cutting those down to 6 Packs what now would be possible with upcoming ships packs reduces production cost.
So no not that stocked about this change i don't see that many Romulan ships been released in the future and to dangle warpcore ships in front of Romulans only adds one more item players have to upgrade with dilithium.
Besides it's not that existing Romulan ships did get a fair treatment of art fixes compared to FrED Ships still waiting on the ROM Multi Mission Ship fix for the messed up Deflector FX.
So in the End great for Admirality if you bought all those FrED Ships in the Past but if not goodbye to any mayor new Romulan Ship releases past Lockbox and promo.
There will likely be still Romulan ships being done in the future. Romulan ships are still hands off to the Federation and Klingons, so the Romulans get to keep their perk that they can fly Romulan ships if they want to.
I hope that Feds and KDFs get to fly Romulan ships as well. More importantly, I hope they get access to the Romulan A.S.S. Cards. I am concerned that Romulans will be getting more than their Fed and KDF counterparts.
Oh, definitely, FedRoms came out the big winners in this, followed by KDFRoms. Feds are now third from what I can see, as far as Admiralty goes. Bringing up the rear are the Klingons, so no real change there.
More choice is better, I just don't see the point of allowing Roms only. At some point, pressure from the players will get to a point where they will have to allow all ships for everyone.
Speculation...
I do see where they may be going though, so perhaps this is just step one in the "grand scheme". ViL gives us a level bump from 60 to 65, but no new rank. I bet there is another cap increase for 65-70 somewhere down the road, soon™. And with it there WILL be a rank increase, Allied Fleet Admiral. It would also allow them to bump the mark level of our gear to Mk 16 and potentially lead into T7 ships.
/speculation
I guess we'll see as time goes by.
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I would like to see a Romulan skin for these ships. makes sense that the romulans using these vessels would paint them in there own colours like when Britain or USA or whatever gives ships/tanks/planes to other nations they are repainted in that nations colours
It's real, it's the beggining. I really can wait to fly a bird of prey from my fedie. I believe it's time we can fly ships with battlecloak. It's only fair we benefit from this tranzaction
You already can fly a ship with a battle cloak. Buy yourself the temporal raider. Always a fed player, wanting what the KDF/Roms have, but not offering something of value in return, then calling it a "fair transaction."
I would be lying by omission if I didn't mention that it's a shame that the Romulans can't use the high-tier versions of certain ships, such as the NX-class. Still, nice to see things opened up more.
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This is going to annoy the poor devils who bought the copypasta packs not for ships but traits, no doubt... on the plus side my kdfroms and fedroms now get free grinding access to all their allied factions lovely traits they never got as I could not see the value in buying ships for a faction I was not truely intrested in
Of course if you wanted to be fair... give kdf and feds access to rom ships - I will admit my kdf captain in the Bort 2.0 would jump at the chance to fly a scimitar type (even if they don't get the singularity gimmick)
Even better, if my rom wants to fly a pilot escort; they don't have to contend with flying a bog brush/pinecone!
All the locked out ships make sense that are from Lobi or Lockbox, what is interesting is all the Zen and T5 ships that were locked out now are going to boost both Romulan leanings to whatever faction they are into. There is one very good possibility to this that was shown with the 31st century ships, and the coming Jem'Hadar ships of full on cross faction.
There is one other possibility though no one has thought of (and maybe not even Cryptic!): Combined Faction specific Romulan ships=== Fed-Rom or Klink-Rom only ships due to mixed designs, resulting in visual styles, traits, and abilities to more match the theme that you have with your character choices on ground. Remember Space Barbie is important Endgame too!
For example we could get:
Science leaning vessel more mixed from Vulcan/Romulan stylings for the Fed-Roms (with say SIF Syphon Console +20 Drain, +25% Power Transfer, + 20 Hull Heal passive with clickable for basically to suck hull from enemy to your own, synergy with Photonic Displacement Console the Tal'Kyr Support Craft---make it a console (has own weaker SIF Syphon with its SIF Transfer ability), 2 console set synergy (making up for lack of passives in 2 of them): +15 Control, +7.5 Aux power, +5 Shield Power, 3 piece Synergy Set: Activating Photonic Displacement console changes it to Photonic Copy-while Photonic Displacement is active Photonic Copy has increased hull, shields, uses "Photonic SIF Syphon", launches own Tal'Kyr Photonic Support Craft, strength of copy-not duration increased by auxiliary power level at activation and copy's own weaker Photonic SIF Syphon, lasts 60 seconds. (Basically a Sci based Rom with Photonic Fleet and the Trait for 4 ships could have 5 and then throw in the Singularity Core ability with the decoys....and maybe the Voth decoy might want to block use of both decoy consoles at same time...not to mention if Fleet support is avaliable and the Temproal clone set....might be a "dear god" moment).
Klink-Roms would get more leaning from say Engineering leaning vessel from Gorn/Romulan designs (could even introduce a Caustic Gorn/Romulan Plasma Torpedo say leaves a thinner than Eject Warp Plasma trail of Caustic plasma when High Yield on path to target. Torpedo on impact does a -5 armor debuff, plasma burn for 10 seconds, Repair Platforms, and synergy with say the Barrier Field Generator), 2 consoles set synergy (making up for lack of passives): +15% Torpedo damage, +15% Armor, +15% Hull, 3 console set synergy (lack of 3 passives): +15 Hull Heal, +7.5 Auxiliary Power, Repair Platform and drones become "armored", add shield repair, and gain Layered Defense III. A Burning Wall-Deploying Barrier Field extends duration +5 seconds, adds a blanket of Caustic Plasma fire on outer surface 1.5 KM from wall that flares up an additional 1 KM when wall is attacked, cloud persists full duration and if wall is destroyed, max 15 seconds after destruction.
I will just use them for the admiralty card my romulan captain will not step been seen dead captaining a federation or KDF ship unless it was captured in battle
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Granted, this is only possible for ships that are Captain/Commander rank or lower. For any of the Admiral ranks, or Tier 6 ships, you can't see them in the ship selector.
This does beg the question; Why act like this is a completely new feature rather than just saying something like "We're unlocking allied ships for Romulans for higher tiers as well as lower tiers"?
> @captaincelestial said: > Next on the list for the Alliance is allowing KDF off-season access to Risa. > > Pretty please, with a cherry on top! > > Also, how about a Klingon equivalent of Risa? Originally Picard was going to spend his mandatory vacation time on a Hell-class planet rather than Risa, but it argued he'd actually enjoy rock climbing in extreme heat than lounging around on a pleasure planet. > > I'm sure that the Ferengi would be happy to provide 'luxury' shuttle service between both planets, for a modest fee, of course!
Ter'jas Mor the new homeworld of the Orions would be the most likely Klingon Empire equivilant to Risa.
What a F***ing Joke, seriously, now they are allowing the Romulans to fly allied ships, BUT, they can't FIX the problems of the Romulan Duty Officers, let alone allowing the Romulans to be a Truly Honest Faction. Hell, I'm even upset, that the Legendary Duty Officer for The Doctor lists him as a nurse, and, not his true profession as a Doctor, since the Federation has Declared him a true unique being.
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Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
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So, when can my Fed/KDF fly Rom ships? Or Fed and KDF fly KDF and Fed ships, respectively? Seriously, let's Shaka these Walls Down! Long before Legacy of Romulus, I made an Fed Alien character to appear like a Romulan, complete with Rom-looking BOffs (and eventually actually Roms when the Fleet Embassy arrived). I'd love to get her flying in an actual Romulan ship now.
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Romulans already had access to t1-4 ships from fed/kdf, just the t5-6 was not aloud.
To those who have to comb through the all the ships and make this work.. you have my sympathy.
(As for the news itself: I am entirely apathetic. The design calls for this 'game' have long-since ostracized and inhibited my excitement and invested interest.)
Pretty please, with a cherry on top!
Also, how about a Klingon equivalent of Risa? Originally Picard was going to spend his mandatory vacation time on a Hell-class planet rather than Risa, but it argued he'd actually enjoy rock climbing in extreme heat than lounging around on a pleasure planet.
I'm sure that the Ferengi would be happy to provide 'luxury' shuttle service between both planets, for a modest fee, of course!
Honestly I would have expected there to be a lot more exceptions, namely the cross faction ships with counterparts such as the Valiant and Maleum.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be getting some more science and engineering for my Romulan, its just... like I said, its doubling up on ships in a way.
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Yes, I am fully aware that KDF and Starfleet Characters have already have access to Rommie BOff's from Fleet Embassy. Fact is Fleet Embassy Rommie BOff's compare to that of the Standard Rommie BOff's is inferior in every way, First off Standard Rommie BOff's can use up to 2 space traits which is Superior Operative & Subterfuge, while Embassy BOff's have only 1 space trait Superior Operative or Superior Subterfuge, Second... Embassy BOff's space traits are only limited to a certain station like Superior Operative only on Tac stations, Superior Subterfuge on Eng or Sci Sation... which means depending on the type of ship your KDF or Fed toon have you can only stack 1 trait operative or subterfuge 2-3x normal max, while Romulan characters stack both traits 5x max.
Better yet, Why don't you people in Cryptic redo the Fleet Embassy Rommie BOff's by giving both Superior Operative & Superior Subterfuge traits together on each station, i bet you that KDF, Feds and Rommies players alike will be interested in buy them instead of giving complete bias towards Rommie players thats been on this game for so long in terms of combat.
There will likely be still Romulan ships being done in the future. Romulan ships are still hands off to the Federation and Klingons, so the Romulans get to keep their perk that they can fly Romulan ships if they want to.
Oh, definitely, FedRoms came out the big winners in this, followed by KDFRoms. Feds are now third from what I can see, as far as Admiralty goes. Bringing up the rear are the Klingons, so no real change there.
More choice is better, I just don't see the point of allowing Roms only. At some point, pressure from the players will get to a point where they will have to allow all ships for everyone.
Speculation...
I do see where they may be going though, so perhaps this is just step one in the "grand scheme". ViL gives us a level bump from 60 to 65, but no new rank. I bet there is another cap increase for 65-70 somewhere down the road, soon™. And with it there WILL be a rank increase, Allied Fleet Admiral. It would also allow them to bump the mark level of our gear to Mk 16 and potentially lead into T7 ships.
/speculation
I guess we'll see as time goes by.
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The alliance is sharing technology makes sense. So a Romulan can take command of a Starfleet or Klingon ship.
But a Starfleet Officer or a Klingon Captain, cannot take command of a Romulan ship.
So technology sharing in the Alliance only goes one way? Towards the Romulan's?
THIS!
You already can fly a ship with a battle cloak. Buy yourself the temporal raider. Always a fed player, wanting what the KDF/Roms have, but not offering something of value in return, then calling it a "fair transaction."
Part of the first team to beat the No Win Scenario (both KDF and Fed)
It's been a long road, getting from there to here~
Of course if you wanted to be fair... give kdf and feds access to rom ships - I will admit my kdf captain in the Bort 2.0 would jump at the chance to fly a scimitar type (even if they don't get the singularity gimmick)
Even better, if my rom wants to fly a pilot escort; they don't have to contend with flying a bog brush/pinecone!
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There is one other possibility though no one has thought of (and maybe not even Cryptic!): Combined Faction specific Romulan ships=== Fed-Rom or Klink-Rom only ships due to mixed designs, resulting in visual styles, traits, and abilities to more match the theme that you have with your character choices on ground. Remember Space Barbie is important Endgame too!
For example we could get:
Science leaning vessel more mixed from Vulcan/Romulan stylings for the Fed-Roms (with say SIF Syphon Console +20 Drain, +25% Power Transfer, + 20 Hull Heal passive with clickable for basically to suck hull from enemy to your own, synergy with Photonic Displacement Console the Tal'Kyr Support Craft---make it a console (has own weaker SIF Syphon with its SIF Transfer ability), 2 console set synergy (making up for lack of passives in 2 of them): +15 Control, +7.5 Aux power, +5 Shield Power, 3 piece Synergy Set: Activating Photonic Displacement console changes it to Photonic Copy-while Photonic Displacement is active Photonic Copy has increased hull, shields, uses "Photonic SIF Syphon", launches own Tal'Kyr Photonic Support Craft, strength of copy-not duration increased by auxiliary power level at activation and copy's own weaker Photonic SIF Syphon, lasts 60 seconds. (Basically a Sci based Rom with Photonic Fleet and the Trait for 4 ships could have 5 and then throw in the Singularity Core ability with the decoys....and maybe the Voth decoy might want to block use of both decoy consoles at same time...not to mention if Fleet support is avaliable and the Temproal clone set....might be a "dear god" moment).
Klink-Roms would get more leaning from say Engineering leaning vessel from Gorn/Romulan designs (could even introduce a Caustic Gorn/Romulan Plasma Torpedo say leaves a thinner than Eject Warp Plasma trail of Caustic plasma when High Yield on path to target. Torpedo on impact does a -5 armor debuff, plasma burn for 10 seconds, Repair Platforms, and synergy with say the Barrier Field Generator), 2 consoles set synergy (making up for lack of passives): +15% Torpedo damage, +15% Armor, +15% Hull, 3 console set synergy (lack of 3 passives): +15 Hull Heal, +7.5 Auxiliary Power, Repair Platform and drones become "armored", add shield repair, and gain Layered Defense III. A Burning Wall-Deploying Barrier Field extends duration +5 seconds, adds a blanket of Caustic Plasma fire on outer surface 1.5 KM from wall that flares up an additional 1 KM when wall is attacked, cloud persists full duration and if wall is destroyed, max 15 seconds after destruction.
But that is just food for thought, so, eh?
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Granted, this is only possible for ships that are Captain/Commander rank or lower. For any of the Admiral ranks, or Tier 6 ships, you can't see them in the ship selector.
This does beg the question; Why act like this is a completely new feature rather than just saying something like "We're unlocking allied ships for Romulans for higher tiers as well as lower tiers"?
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> Next on the list for the Alliance is allowing KDF off-season access to Risa.
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> Pretty please, with a cherry on top!
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> Also, how about a Klingon equivalent of Risa? Originally Picard was going to spend his mandatory vacation time on a Hell-class planet rather than Risa, but it argued he'd actually enjoy rock climbing in extreme heat than lounging around on a pleasure planet.
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> I'm sure that the Ferengi would be happy to provide 'luxury' shuttle service between both planets, for a modest fee, of course!
Ter'jas Mor the new homeworld of the Orions would be the most likely Klingon Empire equivilant to Risa.