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Stop posting so many singles of stackable items on the exchange!!!

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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    sort by "ascending price per unit"

    Every time. Go ahead with those settings and search Contraband. Tell me how many pages you have to scroll through before you find a stack of more than one.
    Well since you asked. 0 pages. Or is is 1? First page, first item. Let's go with that.


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  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    sort by "ascending price per unit"

    Every time. Go ahead with those settings and search Contraband. Tell me how many pages you have to scroll through before you find a stack of more than one.
    Well since you asked. 0 pages. Or is is 1? First page, first item. Let's go with that.


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    Awesome! I had no idea my thread would be this effective!!
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Awesome! I had no idea my thread would be this effective!!
    Gotta disagree there. I buy contraband all the time and it's almost always available in stacks.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »
    totally agree ,5 single items limit (from stackble) for each toon

    Nope. Players should be allowed to list as many single items on the Exchange up to the max limit of 40 which I believe is the slot limit of items to be listed on the Exchange.
  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    garaks31 wrote: »
    totally agree ,5 single items limit (from stackble) for each toon

    Nope. Players should be allowed to list as many single items on the Exchange up to the max limit of 40 which I believe is the slot limit of items to be listed on the Exchange.

    Allowed, sure. I'm just pointing out it's a waste of everyone's time to list them singly en masse.
    Sure you might make a little more money, but from what I can see you'd have to burn hours a day just on the exchange. I'm on disability and have pretty much nothing but free time and even I don't have time for that.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    Give me 500 million EC and I will stop doing so. :)

    I'll stop doing it for 499 million EC.

    You don't know how the exchange works, do you? Last offer takes precedence, so if you offer at 500M as well, OP will take yours over dave's ;)
    tigeraries wrote: »
    it's possible, if the system implemented a non-refundable posting fee per item... fixed at 5% of sell price. frankly i think this is needed due to folks using exchange as bank space.

    A fee as a percentage of sell price won't change everything. It would make your 100 singles get 5% less (or people to pay more), same with your stack of 100.
    If you're going to try to make any kind of real money you're going to need to sell a LOT of items.

    Well, you described yourself as very grindy. Not everybody is. Not everybody considers only 100M+ "real money". Not everybody always has stacks of whatever the max stack size is when they want to or need to (inventory space) to sell.
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  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    Give me 500 million EC and I will stop doing so. :)

    I'll stop doing it for 499 million EC.

    You don't know how the exchange works, do you? Last offer takes precedence, so if you offer at 500M as well, OP will take yours over dave's ;)
    tigeraries wrote: »
    it's possible, if the system implemented a non-refundable posting fee per item... fixed at 5% of sell price. frankly i think this is needed due to folks using exchange as bank space.

    A fee as a percentage of sell price won't change everything. It would make your 100 singles get 5% less (or people to pay more), same with your stack of 100.
    If you're going to try to make any kind of real money you're going to need to sell a LOT of items.

    Well, you described yourself as very grindy. Not everybody is. Not everybody considers only 100M+ "real money". Not everybody always has stacks of whatever the max stack size is when they want to or need to (inventory space) to sell.

    I see what you're saying but I say meet in the middle. Stacks of 10 or even 5 are at least reasonable...honestly how often do you go to the exchanging saying: "Man, I sure could use 1 Contraband." It shouldn't be often enough that people are putting up 20-30 of the same item one at a time. Really I wouldn't even complain if the first few pages were all full of stacks of 10. It's just the dozens of singles that are usually obviously posted by the same guy...because if the next guy really was desperate to sell, he'd have undercut the price at least slightly.

  • ihatepwe735ihatepwe735 Member Posts: 337 Arc User
    Or, instead of making players buy an entire stack at a time, Cryptic allowed players to buy as many units of a stack as they wanted.

    Actually, I remember in a different game, the in game market allowed players to place both Sell, but also Buy orders. So if you didn't see an item listed at the price you wanted you could construct a buy order indicating your desired item, price, and quantity, and the next sales that matched that would complete it.
  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    So it Begins....
    undercutting price war!
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Oh, just shut up already with this 'no one can dictate to me' cr*p. Nobody is dictating anything to you. It is just an observation. Seems like everyone thinks they are the grizzly mountain men that catch their own food and build their own cabins in the deep dark woods. Or was that a lumberjack. :)

    It could be many different people posting single items or one flooding the lower reaches. What I don't get is the posting of stuff at prices below the Bartender rate (except yours) of 50% or even the Replication Recycle rate (and your Bartender) of 40%.

    If you are posting below you are either a philanthropist trying give the 'less fortunate' the opportunity to have access to these very needed and valuable items or you are an as*hat troll. Still not as bad as those knuckleheads listing Small Hypos for 500 Million.

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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I do what I want!
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    STOP POSTING SO MANY SINGLES OF STACKABLE ITEMS ON THE EXCHANGE!!!
    STOP IT!!!!!!
    STOP IT!!!!!!
    D@MN IT STOP IT!!!!!
    Please Stop
    Stop

    Stop

    :: out of breath ::

    Just stop

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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    I see what you're saying but I say meet in the middle. Stacks of 10 or even 5 are at least reasonable...honestly how often do you go to the exchanging saying: "Man, I sure could use 1 Contraband."

    Me? Never. I am a seller on the Contraband market - and yes, in stacks of 250. But I certainly do remember during my early days when I was more cash strapped that I bought exactly what I needed and not one item more (granted, mostly not from the exchange, but I am talking commodities here). And if there is a market for people who want to buy singles, someone will always gather as a seller. I don't know whether there is, since I am too lazy to really play the exchange so I want to sell as little items/bulks as possible. Except that some items don't really sell well in bulk I'd guess, I've seen some things of which you might need 3 in a year go in bundles of 10, IIRC.

    On the other hand, that's how goods are delivered in the real world, too. A candy factory makes huge bulks of candy, which then get delivered to huge warehouses, are shipped across the country in smaller bulk to smaller warehouses and end up at your local shop where they may be sold in small packs or even as singles. And maybe there are people out there who don't want contraband lingering in their inventory, but since they just happen to be at DS9, they may as well turn in one set (and one set only)? I dunno, but it wouldn't surprise me.
    It shouldn't be often enough that people are putting up 20-30 of the same item one at a time. Really I wouldn't even complain if the first few pages were all full of stacks of 10. It's just the dozens of singles that are usually obviously posted by the same guy...because if the next guy really was desperate to sell, he'd have undercut the price at least slightly.

    While it is quite probable that some would undercut the actual lowest price, as said, it isn't necessary, since AFAIK new offers go to the top of the pile, so if you keep the price, you will usually still get chosen before that other guy.

    (I usually try to impose a small premium on the current selling price. Usually prices float enough during a week to sell anyway)
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    I will make every effort to only post singles for now on.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    Give me 500 million EC and I will stop doing so. :)

    I'll stop doing it for 499 million EC.
    I'll do it for 475 million! :wink:​​
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    sort by "ascending price per unit"

    Every time. Go ahead with those settings and search Contraband. Tell me how many pages you have to scroll through before you find a stack of more than one.
    Well since you asked. 0 pages. Or is is 1? First page, first item. Let's go with that.


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    Awesome! I had no idea my thread would be this effective!!

    Yes very effective showing how clueless you are.
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    I have almost never seen bunch of contraband sold as singles. Sure, there are usually few stacks of 50 or 10 on the first page, but I don't recall last time I had to move awqy from page 1 to find a 250 contraband stack.

    Every time I have gone to sell contraband in the last few months, the first stack has been so far from the front page that I felt I'd have to sell for a ridiculously low price for my stack to even be seen.

    You do know how a free market works right? If you stack is buried then it's not because the others are underpriced it's due to your's being way overpriced. But it's easier blaming others for your woes then acceptting you are at fault.
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    OP... are you ever going to need 250 tech upgrades in one sitting?

    Single upgrades are more likely to sell faster than bulk because people typically only want to get what they need at the moment.

    How many weapons have you ever upgraded? It takes like 50+ upgrades to get a weapon to gold....and I only upgrade on bonus weekends.

    Oh this is the funniest one yet!
  • tarran61tarran61 Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    I find both very useful and glad they are allowed to sell them that way.
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  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    sort by "ascending price per unit"

    Every time. Go ahead with those settings and search Contraband. Tell me how many pages you have to scroll through before you find a stack of more than one.
    Well since you asked. 0 pages. Or is is 1? First page, first item. Let's go with that.


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    Awesome! I had no idea my thread would be this effective!!

    Yes very effective showing how clueless you are.

    Yes I'm clueless..that's why I made enough on the exchange last year to buy 2 Na'Kuhl ships, a Suliban cell ship, several costumes and expensive weapons, 2 Porthos, and all the uncommon lockbox ships (for admiralty) on all of my characters...and I don't sell lockbox keys if that's what you're thinking, only items that I have gathered/crafted myself.
    If only I wasn't so clueless, maybe I could have made some serious money...
  • tm706tm706 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    tm706 wrote: »
    Why sell in bulk, when I can part out everything at a slightly higher profit ? Exchange warfare is the true endgame.

    If you're going to try to make any kind of real money you're going to need to sell a LOT of items. You really mean to tell me you'd waste the time it takes to sell a stack individually? I wouldn't even waste the time it takes to post that many items individually nevermind waiting for them to sell if they sell at all. And I'm one of the grindiest people in the game.
    It takes hundreds of millions to buy anything really worth saving for on the exchange..why nickel and dime?
    I'm not against single items but really? Pages and pages before you get to a stack is excessive. And who needs to buy just one Jevonite? What are you gonna do with one Contraband? That single upgrade gonna get your item to the next level? Sure occasionally you want one item. But most of the time, you don't go to the exchange because you're looking to buy one or two of something (stackable items).

    In summary:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEoMO0pc7k

    Yes, I'm more than willing to part out certain items in order to make what I want off them. Some times it makes cents (pun intended) other times it doesn't . I've got plenty of time for that, if it's what I want to do. If it doesn't work for you, click the button a few times and get past it. That's really all that is required here. a few clicks of the "next" button.
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  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    OP... are you ever going to need 250 tech upgrades in one sitting?

    Single upgrades are more likely to sell faster than bulk because people typically only want to get what they need at the moment.

    How many weapons have you ever upgraded? It takes like 50+ upgrades to get a weapon to gold....and I only upgrade on bonus weekends.

    Oh this is the funniest one yet!

    Well, I'm glad your weapons go gold at 5% but not all of us are so lucky.
    Are you sure you're not confusing weapons with consoles/engines/deflectors/shields? Because those don't take half as long to gold.
  • staticharge5347staticharge5347 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    sort by "ascending price per unit"

    This. Plus I will bypass every item that is sold in singles, even if it costs way more than buying the same amount as singles just to spite them. You say it's a waste of EC? I say you can't waste something that isn't real.

  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    I swear the exchange didn't use to be this bad...buy in bulk to save is how economy works. I don't understand how undercutting bulk prices and selling individually is not a waste of time economically.
    But hey lets just insult me some more.
  • lonedragon27lonedragon27 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Maybe I shouldn't be complaining that my competitors don't have the lobes for business. But wasting my time and clogging the exchange affects my profits.
    Read the damn Rules of Acquisition! ;P
  • victorkislyi#1025 victorkislyi Member Posts: 3 New User
    i am reporting my self for being a troll

    go play world of tanks
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    How many weapons have you ever upgraded? It takes like 50+ upgrades to get a weapon to gold....and I only upgrade on bonus weekends.

    I don't have any upgraded to gold. I'm content just getting them up to XIV. And I didn't have enough to sell 250 Experimental Superior Tech Upgrades anyways, nor did I have the RESOURCES to craft said amount.

    Not everyone is shooting for epic. So making someone have only stacks of 50 or more MINIMUM is wasted funds. Some just want to have enough to get up to XIV, and that only takes a few, even on bonus weekends.
    So it comes down to the simple fact of "How many do you need" over "buy in bulk".
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