Winter Event Tips and Tricks 2016!

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  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    Why would anyone care if it was made easier for those who have trouble? The summer event task isn't nearly so difficult, I don't see anyone clamoring to make it harder. Why would giving an option to make the winter task easier (and more enjoyable, skating is fun!) be such an affront to you?

    "Affront" won't be the correct term, but yes, without a challenge, as minor as I perceive it by now, it would be less fun to me. As much as I like the floating in summer, and have occasionally been just flying around the island with some music after one or two hours of playing, the challenge makes it more interesting. Yes, I want the shinies (the ship), but I also want some gameplay that at least pretends I have to earn it. And by "earn it" I don't mean "show up and just be there" but actually minor skill tests. And in this case, a self imposed challenge (which could be omitted) isn't the same to me, even though I use some of them (even in PvP) with "no bunny hopping" since I consider it silly looking. This is why I wouldn't like "skating". I like the run and trying to time the slides.

    I understand that different people prefer different difficulties, and I am not writing this to spite you or others who would prefer it differently, but to voice my opinion on what I prefer and why. And in my opinion, this thread does not prove that something does need to be done. It shows that there are some who dislike the setup and some others who like it. Keep it - some people are unhappy. Change it - some people are unhappy. Both types will have thousands of people out there which feel the same and don't visit the forums, probably even more don't care at all.
    It's not supposed to be some massive challenge only the leet wizurds of sto!!11! can complete, it's supposed to be a daily task. If you still want to earn e-peen points, you could lord it over everyone that you can do the race without using the winter boots and laugh at them for needing to.

    Personally I do think using the boots makes it a lot harder, and if you have difficulties with the race, I wouldn't use them (unless you have a reliable key to equip them on straights and unequip them in time). But I have a very hard time that this is just "the leet wizurds of sto!!11!" who can do it. If it were as difficult as you describe it to the majority, or even a significant (percentage wise) number, the outcry would be far greater, both here and in game chat. Yes, there are some complaints, but then there usually are quite a few people who will answer that the race is easy and offer tips and, because this is zone chat, some will be a-hats about it. But I have seen more complaints and rants in less populated zones about way more minor topics than getting a daily done. (Actually, more complaints about the race would be a welcome change to all the TrumpClinton bashing.)

    I couldn't care less how easy or hard it is to you to get the ship, I just don't want my gaming experience to change (in this instance) without artificially nerfing my gameplay without some kind of return for that.
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  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    I would even be on board with the notion of making a skating race, although I am not sure how well it would work, but it would be fun to try at least.

    But again, the "you can have your old difficulty if you refrain from using the equipment" somehow feels like toning down the difficulty of queues only to say "if you want it more difficult, you can play it in a T1 instead". Or, to keep the same perspective, introduce an item you can use during queues to make it easier for players struggling. By not using skates in such a race you would be nerfing yourself, you wouldn't get a challenge from the game but make one yourself. Which also can be fun, but which I don't think is how the system as such should work.

    I can see part of where you're coming from, there are parts of content I struggle with. But so be it, maybe I won't beat every bit of content and then would have to settle, if I absolutely cannot do something, or am not willing to put in the effort to do so (like restarting the race until the no-enemy bug appears in this case), with the fact that I won't get the shiny.
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  • rattler2
    rattler2 Member Posts: 55,541 Community Moderator
    Could you guys please take the discussion somewhere else? We're getting way off topic and it might confuse people looking for tips.
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  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Could you guys please take the discussion somewhere else? We're getting way off topic and it might confuse people looking for tips.

    Is there a possibility to get the thread cut by some kind of mod? Would be helpful.

    Just short:
    I don't get this at all. Do you similarly rail against the existence of Easy difficulty, or Normal queues? How does it affect you at all if an easier mode exists that you're not required to use? Examples of selectable difficulty exist throughout the game and throughout gaming in general, as it is in the interest of game companies to cater to players (read: customers) of a wide variety of skill level. Alienating all but the most skilled is a recipe for bankruptcy.​​

    (a) I don't think I "rail against", I am stating my opinion why I don't like it

    (b) Different difficulties in other instances give different rewards, so there is an incentive apart from self nerf to go for the higer difficulty. I already stated how that affects me and my enjoyment of the game.

    (c) I very much believe you are severely overestimating the amount of players having problems with the race. If it were to affect "all but the most skilled", the outrage in game or in the forums would be way more noticeable. I am pretty certain that the majority of players has no problems at all completing the race. I am most certainly not one of the "most skilled" players here, and yet I don't complain about content I am struggling with too much, but skip it, even if it means missing out on stuff.

    Unless this gets cut from the main thread, I am off though - at least with this topic. If I can contribute on topic, I will.
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  • rattler2
    rattler2 Member Posts: 55,541 Community Moderator
    Cut? Never seen that before. I've seen threads merged, but never split. So... best to either start a separate thread or take it into Private Message realm.

    For everyone else:
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1225485/winter-event-tips-and-tricks-2016/p1
    Link to page 1 of the thread with some helpful tips.
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  • legendarylycan#5411
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    've seen posts split off from topics on the NWO forums and moved to their own thread, so it's certainly possible, assuming our set of mods know how to do it​​
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  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    On a totally unrelated matter, I spent some time watching people do the race, and while many did run just as I did - as far as you can tell from just watching -, I think I noticed quite a few did not use the "go sideways" option. I don't know which keys they're on, since I long mapped them to A and D, putting the turn keys on Q and E, but I think it helps a lot going sideways (already before reaching a turn) and turning not with the keys but with the mouse.
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  • aurethil
    aurethil Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I use arrows to move and I have "run" in 0 num pad. Other than that, it's all about running in straight lines and jumping before turning. But not just jumping, you jump and stop pressing anything else so you stop completely, then continue running in straight lines. Repeat. I tried rolling but it takes more time.
    It's the first time I play this event, and after the many failed tries I was gonna quit, until I saw a map somewhere with straight lines marked... that was it, I tried it and it works. Once you learn the trick, you won't fail again. Ignore the curves, see the straight lines between them and run.
  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    Well you can also learn drifting. That way you can slide sideway around corners instead of stopping.
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  • zedbrightlander1
    zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,586 Arc User
    Well you can also learn drifting. That way you can slide sideway around corners instead of stopping.
    You know, I'm sort of doing that now, but the closer I get to the finish, the safer it is to just tuck and roll. I hate having to run the race all over again because I misjudged a slide near the finish line.

    If I do a good job on the first third of the race, I am usually so far a head of whatever is racing my officer, that I can honestly just jog to the end with no chance of getting lapped (even by that spider which seem incredibly fast for it's size).

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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Oh yeah, the Glikarma ice spider. I think it was literally born to run on ice...

    But yeah, get a lead and then walk the rest.
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  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    That spider is the fastest of all. I double click 'W' and roll on tight turns all the time. The other day I varied from my normal routine when I had no opponent and went off course. I lost and had to restart. I will stick to what has consistently worked since I first started this during the 2013 Winter Event.
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  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    Can't say for sure, but I always had the impressions that the opponents are all equally fast (or slow) on the same rails. It's just that the smaller ones use quicker animations, so they may seem faster (similar to the oft-read belief that Gorn are slower than everybody else)
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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    nah, there IS a difference, but it's a small one.
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  • zedbrightlander1
    zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,586 Arc User
    nah, there IS a difference, but it's a small one.
    Never tell a Gorn that he is a small Gorn. :p

    I know that's not what you meant, my brain just went there. :smiley:

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  • ltminns
    ltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    I faced the larger spider today. It seemed to keep me held for an extra second. It was the first time that the opponent had a jump on me.
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  • zedbrightlander1
    zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,586 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    I faced the larger spider today. It seemed to keep me held for an extra second. It was the first time that the opponent had a jump on me.

    There's a word that come to mind. Well, a sound, actually.
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    It seems, as if, you were THWIPED! ;)
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  • predcon
    predcon Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    Anyone got any tips or tricks for trading in Cherry epohhs? I mean, I just can't figure out how to trade them in at the conversion station. It's super weird, too, because I've figured out all other types of epohhs.
  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    All I can think of is: steal some food coloring from Neelix', paint it green and sell it as a lime. Unless it's rare, then that won't be of use, too.

    Otherwise I don't think there is a way to sell them right now.
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  • stormstryke2
    stormstryke2 Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    Just faster doing the full speed jumping at the corners and roll when needed.
  • xyquarze
    xyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    If you want to go full speed yes. Jumping is even faster on straights than running - which makes no freaking sense whatsoever and should be changed. Not the most necessary change and not only for the Winter event. It's a bit like BFAW being superior against single targets.

    Anyway, for those who struggle with the race, I would only use the jump (alternatively the roll, but it has been nerfed) for stopping at corners you'll miss otherwise. Handling it for extended periods requires an amount of skill which would probably make the whole thing a cakewalk in the first place.
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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    MY preferred method of handling turns requires planning ahead to figure out when you need to turn in order to make the turn without stopping at all.
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  • quantumquantonum#7698
    quantumquantonum#7698 Member Posts: 169 Arc User
    Can the even be extended a weekend? I resume school on monday and by then I would need just 40 more vouchers to get my ship!!! Extensions on these kinds of events have happened before...
  • thlaylierah
    thlaylierah Member Posts: 2,979 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    There is a lobi store purchase for additional vouchers.

    Looks like 5 lobi for 2-6 vouchers.
  • chastity1337
    chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,568 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    I faced the larger spider today. It seemed to keep me held for an extra second. It was the first time that the opponent had a jump on me.

    There's a word that come to mind. Well, a sound, actually.
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    It seems, as if, you were THWIPED! ;)

    Oh? So if he was Ferasan would he be puthy-thwipped?

  • baddmoonrizin
    baddmoonrizin Member Posts: 7,412 Community Moderator
    They've only ever really extended events if there was significant/unavoidable and unexpected downtime for the game. And since we have the Anniversary Event following pretty quickly, it's doubtful that there will be any extension. As suggested, if you're going to be short, your best bet is to purchase vouchers with Lobi.
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  • markhawkman
    markhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    yeah it's an account unlock, so it's def worth it.
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  • rattler2
    rattler2 Member Posts: 55,541 Community Moderator
    I'd like to thank everyone for another successful year helping others.

    Hope to see everyone again at next year's winter event!
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