It's apparently gong to be well after the new year before an actual court decision is announced about all the DISCOVERY phase interactions.
My guess would be that both CBS & Paramount would prefer that the WRATH of PETERS be over with by mid-May 2017.
But this thing could drag on well into 2017 or even BEYOND.
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Clever daveyny. Very clever.
I just have a feeling Peters is going to drag this out as long as possible.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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That could backfire extensively in his face if the judge finds in CBS/Paramounts' favor.
He may end up going bankrupt with having to pay off all the court expenses for both sides.
Good thing he's got a completely furbished Studio to sell.
<chuckle>
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The trial, per Axamonitor, is supposed to begin January 31, 2017. This assumes that there is no more delay with the discovery or pretrial process obviously.
Also, my screenshot upthread was to point out that Alec's lawyers had recieved the documents relating to the copyright chain that they wanted, and therefore they dismissed that request.
Heh...
Seems the CBS/Paramount Lawyers were ready for that particular stunt well ahead of time.
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The Discovery complaint stated that Alec's legal team didn't recieve a full copyright trace from CBS/P. So while CBS/P may have been ready for that, they just didn't hand over all the documents.
In general, Loeb & Loeb seem to be doing a pretty good job with this case. They were fairly quick about getting Terry Macintosh a 4 TB external storage device for his deposition. Plus the documents filed by Loeb and Loeb seem to be pretty easy reads, and that is a nice thing, coming from a non-lawyer.
The Discovery complaint stated that Alec's legal team didn't recieve a full copyright trace from CBS/P. So while CBS/P may have been ready for that, they just didn't hand over all the documents.
In general, Loeb & Loeb seem to be doing a pretty good job with this case. They were fairly quick about getting Terry Macintosh a 4 TB external storage device for his deposition. Plus the documents filed by Loeb and Loeb seem to be pretty easy reads, and that is a nice thing, coming from a non-lawyer.
One could assume that the CBS/Paramount lawyers are not going to make it easy for Peters to prove his case and will only hand over just enough documents as could be required, unless the Judge orders otherwise...
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WOW, I just came across this really interesting thread from the TREK BBS.
It's originally from 2012 and has several posts by Mr. Peter's himself in it.
It has some basic guidelines for Trek Fan Productions from CBS that were conveyed by other folks who were actually making fan films at that time.
Funny how Mr. Peter's seems to have completely ignored a basic set of rules that he himself asked for (and got) in that thread.
(his TrekBBS names are "LINNEAR" and "LOKEN", he signs his posts with the name Alec)
Conniving is a word that will now come to mind whenever I read anything about that man.
smh
Also, the over all discussion over the four year period of the thread, is quit informative.
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WOW, I just came across this really interesting thread from the TREK BBS.
It's originally from 2012 and has several posts by Mr. Peter's himself in it.
It has some basic guidelines for Trek Fan Productions from CBS that were conveyed by other folks who were actually making fan films at that time.
Funny how Mr. Peter's seems to have completely ignored a basic set of rules that he himself asked for (and got) in that thread.
(his TrekBBS names are "LINNEAR" and "LOKEN", he signs his posts with the name Alec)
Conniving is a word that will now come to mind whenever I read anything about that man.
smh
Also, the over all discussion over the four year period of the thread, is quit informative.
Wow... He's been following this for a long time...
WOW, I just came across this really interesting thread from the TREK BBS.
It's originally from 2012 and has several posts by Mr. Peter's himself in it.
It has some basic guidelines for Trek Fan Productions from CBS that were conveyed by other folks who were actually making fan films at that time.
Funny how Mr. Peter's seems to have completely ignored a basic set of rules that he himself asked for (and got) in that thread.
(his TrekBBS names are "LINNEAR" and "LOKEN", he signs his posts with the name Alec)
Conniving is a word that will now come to mind whenever I read anything about that man.
smh
Also, the over all discussion over the four year period of the thread, is quit informative.
Oh you should pop by the cbs paramount vs axanar group on Facebook if you want real funny info on Peters
Today I saw a few what the . . . . Screen caps of what Peters says about other people etc
Certainly makes you think how does this man have any friends.
Not to mention it has lot of us to date info that axamonitor doesn't cover.
Yes, he is well known for being a "Trumpist" when folks disagree with him, or give Actual Facts about what has been going on.
He tends to slash & burn his bridges, sometimes before he even completely crosses them.
<shrug>
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While there is evidence of extreme carelessness and gross negligence in the handling of the Star Trek IP, there is no evidence of criminal intent so no reasonable Prosecutor would recommend filing charges.
Wait a minute, didn't I hear that one before?
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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While there is evidence of extreme carelessness and gross negligence in the handling of the Star Trek IP, there is no evidence of criminal intent so no reasonable Prosecutor would recommend filing charges.
Wait a minute, didn't I hear that one before?
Knowingly using someone else's IP without explicit permission, is intent. That he used said IP elements in his attempt to raise funds, again, is not just intent, but willful violation of IP which not only was not his, but that he knew was not his, and has known for some time was not his... It's legally indefensible... Sure, he might have the legal right to make counterclaims etc, but there's no validity to the foundation of his defence. It's nothing more than building a health code-compliant hotel on top of quicksand. It may look great from whatever angle it's viewed from, and people might love staying in it and have a great time staying in it, but eventually, it's going to sink...
Seems Mrs. Clinton isn't the only one with email problems.
Also seems that Mr. Trump isn't the only one who wants to keep his financial status secret.
<chuckle>
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Erin Ranahan, the attorney representing Axanar in the copyright infringement suit, told Jason they would turn over additional documents and allow CBS and Paramount a second chance to interview Peters on a limited basis. Jason wants the judge in the case to order Peters to meet with the Star Trek attorneys again to talk about his communication with Gossett and with CBS.
A request for comment from Axanar late Thursday was pending return.
Jason also wants the court to “declassify” Axanar’s financial report. Axanar’s attorneys shared that report with CBS and Paramount, but labeled it “highly confidential” because, according to the court filing, “Mr. Peters does not want to reveal the amounts that he paid to himself and his colleagues, or the amounts he spent on personal expenses.”
One thing we at Axanar pride ourselves on, is being the most transparent and accountable crowd-funded film out there. So here is our “annual report” of sorts to keep you informed about where your money is going.
I'd say more, but I don't think there's more to say about such things...
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Dude sounds like Trump.
"I 'can't' release my documents because of blah blah blah".
Yea... he's hiding something if he's not releasing the documents. So much for "transparency".
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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So Peters may still have to be deposed and all his hidden gems turned over to L&L.
The "hidden gems" are probably already in the massive amount of paperwork that came up when the CBS lawyer deposed Christian Gossett, the director of Prelude to Axanar, last weekend.
Seems Gossett kept a very detailed accounting of his work on that production (and retianed everything)
That would be the only way they would know that there are emails out there.
The lawyer is just fishing to see if Mr. Peter's IS hiding anything.
If he didn't turn over everything he had, he could be held in contempt of court.
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So Peters may still have to be deposed and all his hidden gems turned over to L&L.
The "hidden gems" are probably already in the massive amount of paperwork that came up when the CBS lawyer deposed Christian Gossett, the director of Prelude to Axanar, last weekend.
Seems Gossett kept a very detailed accounting of his work on that production (and retianed everything)
That would be the only way they would know that there are emails out there.
The lawyer is just fishing to see if Mr. Peter's IS hiding anything.
If he didn't turn over everything he had, he could be held in contempt of court.
It could be that Peters deleted his copies of the emails, meaning he wouldn't have access to them to turn them over... Equally, he's definitely arrogant enough to try and say he doesn't have them, even if he does. He's already in contempt of court for his "That's Chinese writing..." trick, someone like that doesn't stop while they're ahead, but just keeps on digging themself deeper
How is this in the "wrong forum"? Ten-Forward is for anything not related to STO. Basically this is the Spam section some forums have. And technically talk about Axanar is Star Trek related as we're being kept informed of an ongoing legal battle between the owners of Star Trek and the guy behind Star Trek: Axanar, which is not a licensed product.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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Doesn't say his post was edited though Shadow. So unless he's referring to something that was said earlier, we have no reference as to what he's talking about. We just have 2 words that may very well be directed at this thead without context.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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My guess would be that both CBS & Paramount would prefer that the WRATH of PETERS be over with by mid-May 2017.
But this thing could drag on well into 2017 or even BEYOND.
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I just have a feeling Peters is going to drag this out as long as possible.
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He may end up going bankrupt with having to pay off all the court expenses for both sides.
Good thing he's got a completely furbished Studio to sell.
<chuckle>
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Also, my screenshot upthread was to point out that Alec's lawyers had recieved the documents relating to the copyright chain that they wanted, and therefore they dismissed that request.
Seems the CBS/Paramount Lawyers were ready for that particular stunt well ahead of time.
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In general, Loeb & Loeb seem to be doing a pretty good job with this case. They were fairly quick about getting Terry Macintosh a 4 TB external storage device for his deposition. Plus the documents filed by Loeb and Loeb seem to be pretty easy reads, and that is a nice thing, coming from a non-lawyer.
One could assume that the CBS/Paramount lawyers are not going to make it easy for Peters to prove his case and will only hand over just enough documents as could be required, unless the Judge orders otherwise...
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It's originally from 2012 and has several posts by Mr. Peter's himself in it.
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cbss-rules-of-engagement-for-star-trek-fan-films.187825/page-2
It has some basic guidelines for Trek Fan Productions from CBS that were conveyed by other folks who were actually making fan films at that time.
Funny how Mr. Peter's seems to have completely ignored a basic set of rules that he himself asked for (and got) in that thread.
(his TrekBBS names are "LINNEAR" and "LOKEN", he signs his posts with the name Alec)
Conniving is a word that will now come to mind whenever I read anything about that man.
smh
Also, the over all discussion over the four year period of the thread, is quit informative.
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My character Tsin'xing
Today I saw a few what the . . . . Screen caps of what Peters says about other people etc
Certainly makes you think how does this man have any friends.
Not to mention it has lot of us to date info that axamonitor doesn't cover.
Yes, he is well known for being a "Trumpist" when folks disagree with him, or give Actual Facts about what has been going on.
He tends to slash & burn his bridges, sometimes before he even completely crosses them.
<shrug>
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Wait a minute, didn't I hear that one before?
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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http://geeknation.com/star-trek-studios-to-axanar-turn-over-emails/
Seems Mrs. Clinton isn't the only one with email problems.
Also seems that Mr. Trump isn't the only one who wants to keep his financial status secret.
<chuckle>
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I'd say more, but I don't think there's more to say about such things...
"I 'can't' release my documents because of blah blah blah".
Yea... he's hiding something if he's not releasing the documents. So much for "transparency".
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So Peters may still have to be deposed and all his hidden gems turned over to L&L.
The "hidden gems" are probably already in the massive amount of paperwork that came up when the CBS lawyer deposed Christian Gossett, the director of Prelude to Axanar, last weekend.
Seems Gossett kept a very detailed accounting of his work on that production (and retianed everything)
That would be the only way they would know that there are emails out there.
The lawyer is just fishing to see if Mr. Peter's IS hiding anything.
If he didn't turn over everything he had, he could be held in contempt of court.
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How is this in the "wrong forum"? Ten-Forward is for anything not related to STO. Basically this is the Spam section some forums have. And technically talk about Axanar is Star Trek related as we're being kept informed of an ongoing legal battle between the owners of Star Trek and the guy behind Star Trek: Axanar, which is not a licensed product.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
colored text = mod mode
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
colored text = mod mode