you never know...all we really know about them is that their tech level is bronze age, they worship what seem to be living crystals and they were wiped out by a protomatter device
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A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
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Passion and Serenity are one.
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In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
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The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
btw why is the Enterprise symbol found? didnt each ship/base have their own symbol?
They did, but if I remember my lore correctly, when Enterprise came back from its five-year mission (which happened before K-13 is lost), it was the ship that survived this kind of mission and they decided to adopt the Enterprise's delta symbol as the standard Starfleet symbol due to the ship's success.
btw why is the Enterprise symbol found? didnt each ship/base have their own symbol?
They did, but if I remember my lore correctly, when Enterprise came back from its five-year mission (which happened before K-13 is lost), it was the ship that survived this kind of mission and they decided to adopt the Enterprise's delta symbol as the standard Starfleet symbol due to the ship's success.
During the mission K-13 is lost... ships have their own badges still. Your player ship had it's own badge.
btw why is the Enterprise symbol found? didnt each ship/base have their own symbol?
They did, but if I remember my lore correctly, when Enterprise came back from its five-year mission (which happened before K-13 is lost), it was the ship that survived this kind of mission and they decided to adopt the Enterprise's delta symbol as the standard Starfleet symbol due to the ship's success.
During the mission K-13 is lost... ships have their own badges still. Your player ship had it's own badge.
Indeed, but the conversion to a true official Starfleet delta logo didn't happen in an instant. In fact, the Epsilon IX station (the one that gets absorbed by V'Ger) still had its own assignment patch.
I guess after the five-year mission, the Enterprise's delta became more and more popular with more ships and stations using it, including K-13, until it was made official somewhere after the V'Ger's crisis.
That's a possible in-game explanation. Of course, the real reason is the delta is the most recognizable symbol of Starfleet so the devs put this one so players would go "OMG, Starfleet's emblem, the plot thickens!" instead of "Yeah, that a nice emblem... but what does that mean?".
Our thought is that the process of converting over to the Enterprise as the "official" symbol of Starfleet is in-progress during the events of Agents of Yesterday.
Also, from a fiction/art perspective, the Enterprise chevron is just far more recognizable than the starbase operations starburst, so it creates a much stronger moment of "dun dun DUUUUUN!"
I'm getting the off hand idea that the people of the planet worshiped the crystal entity. I mean we did get introduced (game wise) to the other space fairing species, and they did having a living crystal that grew, and they did worship it apearantly.
Hum, wouldn't it be funny if we found out that the Lukari worshiped a rouge member of the Q just to round this out for the holiday event.
Also, from a fiction/art perspective, the Enterprise chevron is just far more recognizable than the starbase operations starburst, so it creates a much stronger moment of "dun dun DUUUUUN!"
I am thinking maybe that the temple was built by maybe the direction of the K-13 crew as a way of storing the crystals/protomatter weapon, with the temple being used both as storage an also to halt the reaction of the proto-matter, but when they opened the temple it caused the reaction to go out of control at that moment.
you never know...all we really know about them is that their tech level is bronze age, they worship what seem to be living crystals and they were wiped out by a protomatter device
We don't even know that last part for sure. Remember, the Starfleet people arrived over 800 years earlier; anything could have happened to them in the meantime. For all we know so far, they could have already been long gone by the time the protomatter bomb was detonated.
why detonate a bomb when there's nothing to wipe out? besides, scans taken by the concordium indicated there was organic matter present as little as a few weeks prior
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Living crystals and all life on a planet being wiped out, does this make anyone else wonder about possible connections to the Crystalline Entity?
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Living crystals and all life on a planet being wiped out, does this make anyone else wonder about possible connections to the Crystalline Entity?
The fact that protomatter was involved suggests it was a genesis device.
the CE doesn't use protomatter that I recall.
I never said it was a perfect theory... though I don't think anything has ever explained where Protomatter comes from beyond that it's 'unstable', so it doesn't entirely rule out a connected.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
protomatter isn't a standard component in genesis; marcus added it to try and solve one of the problems they were having with it
it was also used in gideon seyetik's solar reignition device, as well as the bomb that was used to try and destroy B'hava'el
And don't forget in STO itself, in FED: "Taris", we discover that Tekasite, Decalithium and Protomatter were used to cause the Hobus Supernova.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
If a Reward is above the selectable ones (e.g., Somog in 'Time in a Bottle', Training Manuals in other Iconian War Arc Episodes) and the Nausican gun is one time.
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When i saw the Star Fleet Logo it was more *facepalm*
Damnit 23c Star Fleet Did you people even Read the Prime Directive , this is why they got strict in the 24c, you ruined it once again for the rest of up
I really liked the voice acting and the story. Nice to have a mission that doesn't have revolve around combat! (Granted, the combat is usually fun too. )
Also, I was surprised at how well that "generic science vessel" works for the Concordium. It definitely looks the part of the Lukari NX-01, and I wouldn't mind if they stuck with it instead of a more "futuristic" design.
The Starfleet logo on the planet was definitely a big surprise, and the overall story was very engaging. But I would very much like to kill/arrest Madran at some point. :P
It is a little odd that the protomatter bomb apparently didn't damage the temple. Even the controlled Genesis device basically liquefied the entire surface of its target planet when it went off; I don't see how an apparently-random protomatter detonation would have spared anything.
I assume that's a hook for future missions. Keep up the good work!
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I don't think it was a random protomatter detonation, but maybe something like a controlled containment building, which than breached in someway. Like that they would open the temple at certain points to detail the progress of the crystals/protomatter progression, and even releasing small amounts of the built up protomatter like a form of pressure valve, which would give the people on the planet abit more time over if the protomatter had gone off without it.
Overall I enjoyed the mission and I do like this type of missions. Just one minor point of criticism. The final space battle brought me several times at the edge of the map. It looks to me that the map is small and you are placed near an edge or a corner.
The curious thing is that one of the murals a tall green skinned creature is depicted as if ordering them to get the crystals . Tzenkethi are not green skinned .
I don't think it was a random protomatter detonation, but maybe something like a controlled containment building, which than breached in someway. Like that they would open the temple at certain points to detail the progress of the crystals/protomatter progression, and even releasing small amounts of the built up protomatter like a form of pressure valve, which would give the people on the planet abit more time over if the protomatter had gone off without it.
Except that the crystals are apparently not the source of the blast. The blast was said to have been caused by the Tzenkethi.
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I really hope that was snark and sarcasm
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
its called 20 draconis because its in the constellation Draco and thats what real world atronomers have tagged it as.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
During the mission K-13 is lost... ships have their own badges still. Your player ship had it's own badge.
I guess after the five-year mission, the Enterprise's delta became more and more popular with more ships and stations using it, including K-13, until it was made official somewhere after the V'Ger's crisis.
That's a possible in-game explanation. Of course, the real reason is the delta is the most recognizable symbol of Starfleet so the devs put this one so players would go "OMG, Starfleet's emblem, the plot thickens!" instead of "Yeah, that a nice emblem... but what does that mean?".
Also, from a fiction/art perspective, the Enterprise chevron is just far more recognizable than the starbase operations starburst, so it creates a much stronger moment of "dun dun DUUUUUN!"
Hum, wouldn't it be funny if we found out that the Lukari worshiped a rouge member of the Q just to round this out for the holiday event.
We don't even know that last part for sure. Remember, the Starfleet people arrived over 800 years earlier; anything could have happened to them in the meantime. For all we know so far, they could have already been long gone by the time the protomatter bomb was detonated.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I never said it was a perfect theory... though I don't think anything has ever explained where Protomatter comes from beyond that it's 'unstable', so it doesn't entirely rule out a connected.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
it was also used in gideon seyetik's solar reignition device, as well as the bomb that was used to try and destroy B'hava'el
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Damnit 23c Star Fleet Did you people even Read the Prime Directive , this is why they got strict in the 24c, you ruined it once again for the rest of up
Also, I was surprised at how well that "generic science vessel" works for the Concordium. It definitely looks the part of the Lukari NX-01, and I wouldn't mind if they stuck with it instead of a more "futuristic" design.
The Starfleet logo on the planet was definitely a big surprise, and the overall story was very engaging. But I would very much like to kill/arrest Madran at some point. :P
It is a little odd that the protomatter bomb apparently didn't damage the temple. Even the controlled Genesis device basically liquefied the entire surface of its target planet when it went off; I don't see how an apparently-random protomatter detonation would have spared anything.
I assume that's a hook for future missions. Keep up the good work!
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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