I'm wondering when we're going to learn to just shoot the damned Ferengi on sight whenever they show up. Nothing good ever comes of interacting with them. They show up, annoy us for a while, transparently attempt to **** us over, and we have to kick the snot out of them... why can't we just skip the pretense and shoot them immediately? It's not like they ever deal honestly or are actually helpful. We know from the moment they show up they're up to no good, they're not even halfway good at hiding it. "Hello, Captain, might I interest you in some -- " "NO. However, I have some free photon torpedoes for you, I'll send them over now". Done.
Nog. Spent half an arc with him and he didn't offer to sell me a single thing...
Otherwise, it seems that all the Ferengi we run into are the "ebul, money grubbing" kind, not the "kind, nice, civil" ones.
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
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"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I'm wondering when we're going to learn to just shoot the damned Ferengi on sight whenever they show up. Nothing good ever comes of interacting with them. They show up, annoy us for a while, transparently attempt to **** us over, and we have to kick the snot out of them... why can't we just skip the pretense and shoot them immediately? It's not like they ever deal honestly or are actually helpful. We know from the moment they show up they're up to no good, they're not even halfway good at hiding it. "Hello, Captain, might I interest you in some -- " "NO. However, I have some free photon torpedoes for you, I'll send them over now". Done.
Nog. Spent half an arc with him and he didn't offer to sell me a single thing...
Otherwise, it seems that all the Ferengi we run into are the "ebul, money grubbing" kind, not the "kind, nice, civil" ones.
The guy working in Quark's wasn't too bad. Bit of a cheapskate, but gave info that helped with the Dominion.
Well ok, and if this were the TV series there'd be no puzzles at all.
Sure there would. Just, for the characters to solve.
Anyway, I like the fact we are there to let a younger species do their own discovery, we keep them from getting stomped on, we don't spoon feed them until they find something new, and only then we give them the background.
No, they spoon feed us. Notice how Kuumarke does all the talking, tells you what to do and knows everything all the time?
An inevitable result of a mute player character combined with no supporting "expert" NPC to put on the exposition, but still...
The Lukari's first experience of deep space exploration must have gone well for them....
"Look at these amazing creatures living in the depths of space! They're incredible!"
"Yes, they're called Gekli, we know about them."
"More amazing creatures! Like giant glowing space jellyfish!"
"Farpoint cnidarians. Here's complete data on their biology and life cycle for you."
"... An unknown planet! Scoured clear of life by a mysterious catastrophe! We shall be the first aliens to set foot on it!"
"Yeah, OK."
"... Oh. Not quite the first. Look, there's your logo on the wall."
"Oh, yeah."
"And pictures of your people."
"Funny old world, isn't it?"
"... There's an abandoned space station in orbit. Is it -?"
"One of ours? Yeah. We were wondering where we'd left it."
".... So perhaps that's enough exploration for the moment. Maybe I'll go relax for a while. I could lie down by the pool... that is, if there aren't STARFLEET TOWELS ALREADY DRAPED OVER THE SUN LOUNGERS."
Hey, if you do it with a non-Starfleet character the implied tone gets slightly different - you get to join in with the Lukari in being mystified and annoyed at Starfleet having gotten down there first!
hey, at least this time it wasn't INTENTIONAL that starfleet got there first
though, once again, it's something to be blamed on our agents of yesterday...while they still haven't QUITE assembled a reputation as...colorful as that of a normal starfleeter character, it's getting there
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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I've enjoyed it myself and my fav part was "spoiler alert"
seeing the starfleet symbole on the wall
This was the part that made the episode for me. It held felt random and kind of tedious, and then an actual story kicked in.
On a separate note, did anyone else get an ENT-era Vulcan vibe from the opening briefing? Admiral Quinn said to make sure the Lukari don't 'get in over their heads,' and I envisioned someone giving Ambassador Soval the same instructions--with somewhat more sinister undertones--several hundred years earlier.
I agree, that mission was fantastic. Only got 3 nitpicks with it:
1) Dammit, Cryptic, let us finally kill and/or arrest Madran and Qwen. Those two are getting waaaaay too annoying and proved to be a threat to the player more then once.
2) Can I pleaze haz Kuuraamake's new uniform? That would look awesome on my female characters^^
3) While the reveal of the Starfleet Delta inside the temple was nice, it is a bit of an error... as back in the days of TOS every starship and station had their own mission sigil, the delta being used by the Enterprise exclusively. It should have been the logo of K-13 instead
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I liked it, but you know it's just going to lead into another space war
D'Tan says it best in the Romulan version of the mission:
" It is... curious that the Tzenkethi did not use their weapon upon the Federation, given their history. Perhaps this was but a test of the weapon, the first step on the path to war."
what REALLY interests me is when the player mentions how unstable protomatter is and kuumaarke immediately says ' not if you *blablabla treknobabble explanation here* first'...apparently the lukari have been able to figure out something the federation hasn't been able to for hundreds of years
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I liked it, but you know it's just going to lead into another space war
D'Tan says it best in the Romulan version of the mission:
" It is... curious that the Tzenkethi did not use their weapon upon the Federation, given their history. Perhaps this was but a test of the weapon, the first step on the path to war."
He did? KDF-allinged Romulans got a debriefing by J'mpok -.- The briefing was by J'mpok using D'tan's voice btw XD
The Rising of the Delta is the best expansion ever, and people love it to death because it is a good day to die in the endless struggle for supremacy of your own conviction. (A spin off of the Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and all the players love it.)
I guess the local nuisance has been doing well for himself, considering the cutting edge ship he's tooling around in.
Made me all the more glad when I bored several holes into his power systems, heh.
Nah!! He got an email asking him to return to the game with the carrot of a nice shiny new ship hanging over him.
what REALLY interests me is when the player mentions how unstable protomatter is and kuumaarke immediately says ' not if you *blablabla treknobabble explanation here* first'...apparently the lukari have been able to figure out something the federation hasn't been able to for hundreds of years
TBH, that seemed more like our Starship Captains aren't as knowledgeable about science in general as an actual scientist. Not that the Lukari knew this thing the Federation in general had no knowledge of.
The fact that we bring up a failed terraforming project as a possibile origin of the protomatter explosion would suggest knew that protomatter COULD be used safely, given the right circumstances, just that we PERSONALLY, didn't know what those circumstances were.
D'Tan says it best in the Romulan version of the mission:
" It is... curious that the Tzenkethi did not use their weapon upon the Federation, given their history. Perhaps this was but a test of the weapon, the first step on the path to war."
This makes me wonder though. the Tzenkethi aren't THAT large, how will they go to war with the Alliance?
They probably got large by some future tech or something a rather. The only logical step, or Iconians, or the Dominion again?
The Rising of the Delta is the best expansion ever, and people love it to death because it is a good day to die in the endless struggle for supremacy of your own conviction. (A spin off of the Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and all the players love it.)
I liked it really really liked it. two annoying things though 1. when the second space minigame starts, the ship should STOP. 2 setting up the scattering field to stop transporters and then TWO transports????
oh, and dont take your space whale into this episode... just.. don't you will get really frustrated. take that nimble sci ship battlecruiser or escort. Kilnks can ignore this advice unless you drive a bortas
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Nog. Spent half an arc with him and he didn't offer to sell me a single thing...
Otherwise, it seems that all the Ferengi we run into are the "ebul, money grubbing" kind, not the "kind, nice, civil" ones.
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
The guy working in Quark's wasn't too bad. Bit of a cheapskate, but gave info that helped with the Dominion.
Just start with the top right one and then go counter clockwise. At least that's what I saw... don't know if there's different versions.
No, they spoon feed us. Notice how Kuumarke does all the talking, tells you what to do and knows everything all the time?
An inevitable result of a mute player character combined with no supporting "expert" NPC to put on the exposition, but still...
"Look at these amazing creatures living in the depths of space! They're incredible!"
"Yes, they're called Gekli, we know about them."
"More amazing creatures! Like giant glowing space jellyfish!"
"Farpoint cnidarians. Here's complete data on their biology and life cycle for you."
"... An unknown planet! Scoured clear of life by a mysterious catastrophe! We shall be the first aliens to set foot on it!"
"Yeah, OK."
"... Oh. Not quite the first. Look, there's your logo on the wall."
"Oh, yeah."
"And pictures of your people."
"Funny old world, isn't it?"
"... There's an abandoned space station in orbit. Is it -?"
"One of ours? Yeah. We were wondering where we'd left it."
".... So perhaps that's enough exploration for the moment. Maybe I'll go relax for a while. I could lie down by the pool... that is, if there aren't STARFLEET TOWELS ALREADY DRAPED OVER THE SUN LOUNGERS."
though, once again, it's something to be blamed on our agents of yesterday...while they still haven't QUITE assembled a reputation as...colorful as that of a normal starfleeter character, it's getting there
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
aka. the REAL reason the klingons joined the galactic alliance
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
My character Tsin'xing
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
This was the part that made the episode for me. It held felt random and kind of tedious, and then an actual story kicked in.
On a separate note, did anyone else get an ENT-era Vulcan vibe from the opening briefing? Admiral Quinn said to make sure the Lukari don't 'get in over their heads,' and I envisioned someone giving Ambassador Soval the same instructions--with somewhat more sinister undertones--several hundred years earlier.
1) Dammit, Cryptic, let us finally kill and/or arrest Madran and Qwen. Those two are getting waaaaay too annoying and proved to be a threat to the player more then once.
2) Can I pleaze haz Kuuraamake's new uniform? That would look awesome on my female characters^^
3) While the reveal of the Starfleet Delta inside the temple was nice, it is a bit of an error... as back in the days of TOS every starship and station had their own mission sigil, the delta being used by the Enterprise exclusively. It should have been the logo of K-13 instead
they probably standardized to the delta shortly after that
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Also, Kuuraamake is really a nice character. Don't VanZyl (sp?) her
Do "Painful Omens" and check the logo on T'Met's uniform before she joins your crew... that's the one of K-13.
" It is... curious that the Tzenkethi did not use their weapon upon the Federation, given their history. Perhaps this was but a test of the weapon, the first step on the path to war."
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
He did? KDF-allinged Romulans got a debriefing by J'mpok -.- The briefing was by J'mpok using D'tan's voice btw XD
Nah!! He got an email asking him to return to the game with the carrot of a nice shiny new ship hanging over him.
They probably got large by some future tech or something a rather. The only logical step, or Iconians, or the Dominion again?
oh, and dont take your space whale into this episode... just.. don't you will get really frustrated. take that nimble sci ship battlecruiser or escort. Kilnks can ignore this advice unless you drive a bortas