got a code in my e-mail for a xp boost 1 r&dpack and duty officer pack and it doesnt work arc just tells me to enter a valid code tried every way possible. Trust PWE to TRIBBLE up a giveaway with AOY
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got a code in my e-mail for a xp boost 1 r&dpack and duty officer pack and it doesnt work arc just tells me to enter a valid code tried every way possible. Trust PWE to **** up a giveaway with AOY
PWE Have not messed up .... it was removed after a while due to reasons I beleive eminate from players finding a way to exploit the freebies. Sorry you have missed out, but this was not PWE's fault, but inconsiderate players.
ARC has clearly stated threw action that they don't care about the game play for a large portion of there paying customers how they can release multiple patches and vessels that leave an entire class on the side lines the new bridge officer abilities look fun but i will never know as tactical ships don't even have commander seats to find out.
Mein Gott. Someone whining about a focus on things rather than Tactical skills... you really can't win...
would you like some nice Targ Cheeze to go with your whine, P'taq? (Just because the Klingon people are going to give up their soul, doesn't mean we have to be nice about it...)
Y'know, I was wondering how hard this membership thing is. The Na'kuhl regarded the Klingons as "vassals" of the Federation / Alliance, yet during Time and Tide you see Korath-class ships in action. So there's clearly still a distinct Klingon force as of the 29th century. The whole thing reminds me of the way that many have viewed Britain in recent years - usually as "American Lapdogs" or irrevocably part of the EU - neither of which is actually true - and the UK does share costs and development of a lot of military equipment with other nations. I mean, the term is "Alliance". That implies a looser confederation than "Empire" or "Federation".
Anyway, you had Klingons displaying Federation flags in Season 1 of TNG, and they were at war again by mid-DS9 .
ARC has clearly stated threw action that they don't care about the game play for a large portion of there paying customers how they can release multiple patches and vessels that leave an entire class on the side lines the new bridge officer abilities look fun but i will never know as tactical ships don't even have commander seats to find out.
Mein Gott. Someone whining about a focus on things rather than Tactical skills... you really can't win...
Want a Cdr Tac slot? Buy an escort, like everyone else. There's Temporal Escort which will let you have Temporal seating with a Cdr Tac, or you could do the same with the Temporal Raider. What is the problem?
would you like some nice Targ Cheeze to go with your whine, P'taq? (Just because the Klingon people are going to give up their soul, doesn't mean we have to be nice about it...)
Y'know, I was wondering how hard this membership thing is. The Na'kuhl regarded the Klingons as "vassals" of the Federation / Alliance, yet during Time and Tide you see Korath-class ships in action. So there's clearly still a distinct Klingon force as of the 29th century. The whole thing reminds me of the way that many have viewed Britain in recent years - usually as "American Lapdogs" or irrevocably part of the EU - neither of which is actually true - and the UK does share costs and development of a lot of military equipment with other nations. I mean, the term is "Alliance". That implies a looser confederation than "Empire" or "Federation".
Anyway, you had Klingons displaying Federation flags in Season 1 of TNG, and they were at war again by mid-DS9 .
I was disappointed that the really old kits that didn't use modules are all rendered obsolete. I had a collection of these for levelling up characters until I could get nice kits frames and modules.
Now, all they are good for is selling to the EC vendor and several of my 'smaller' characters no longer have any kits or skills to use .
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need I remind you that the reason the Klingons went to war in DS9 with the Federation was that the FEDERATION repudiated that alliance and the terms of it? or that the reason in the current 'verse the Klingons ejected Feds from the Hromi cluster, is that during the conflicts with the Gorn, the federation chose to repudiate their alliance AGAIN and played 'neutral' while covertly aiding the (occupied by Undine) gorn against the Empire (also in violation of treaty?)
In violation of which treaty? The one between the Feds and KDF or the one between the Feds and the Gorn?
Oh wait you forgot the Feds had a treaty with the Gorn didn't you? It's the entire reason the Feds did this. They couldn't support either side since they were ALLIES of both. Also you're ignoring that the KDF just didn't bother giving the Feds any actual proof of their claims.
Indeed. If I remember correctly, in both the Klingon/Cardassian and Klingon/Gorn conflicts, the Federation was not treaty bound to assist the Klingons because the Klingons - no matter how right they might have been (Gorn/Undine) or how manipulated they were (Cardassians) - were acting as the aggressors.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Lol no. You make it sound like the Klingons were in the right to start those wars, but they weren't. the Klingons made it impossible for the Feds to help them.
Lol no. You make it sound like the Klingons were in the right to start those wars, but they weren't. the Klingons made it impossible for the Feds to help them.
so yeah, they were well within their rights doing what they did. It's simply inconvenient from the perspective of a supporter of Federation policies to admit.
Yeah, but what you left out is that the Klingons had NO right to demand that the Federation join in on the war. See that is where things went wrong. The Klingons started wars, then asked the Federation to help them attack the third party. That is one thing the treaties did NOT require. If the Cardassians or Gorn had actually attacked the Klingons then the Federation was required to help defend them. But defend only.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
I think he might also be confusing it with some of the DC-comics run of "Star Trek" the comic book. (which FASA mined heavily for SFB). and maybe some of the novels from the seventies or eighties.
(Meanwhile, I'm basing my own arguments off of small-screen, big-screen, and STO's internal canon with some from Mem Alpha...)
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
I think he might also be confusing it with some of the DC-comics run of "Star Trek" the comic book. (which FASA mined heavily for SFB). and maybe some of the novels from the seventies or eighties.
(Meanwhile, I'm basing my own arguments off of small-screen, big-screen, and STO's internal canon with some from Mem Alpha...)
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Also... In the Klingon War storyline that you play through Fed side all of the parts involving the Gorn are due to the Gorn suddenly invading worlds that they had previously allowed Starfleet to have.
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Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
PWE Have not messed up .... it was removed after a while due to reasons I beleive eminate from players finding a way to exploit the freebies. Sorry you have missed out, but this was not PWE's fault, but inconsiderate players.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/comment/13091577
Mein Gott. Someone whining about a focus on things rather than Tactical skills... you really can't win...
Y'know, I was wondering how hard this membership thing is. The Na'kuhl regarded the Klingons as "vassals" of the Federation / Alliance, yet during Time and Tide you see Korath-class ships in action. So there's clearly still a distinct Klingon force as of the 29th century. The whole thing reminds me of the way that many have viewed Britain in recent years - usually as "American Lapdogs" or irrevocably part of the EU - neither of which is actually true - and the UK does share costs and development of a lot of military equipment with other nations. I mean, the term is "Alliance". That implies a looser confederation than "Empire" or "Federation".
Anyway, you had Klingons displaying Federation flags in Season 1 of TNG, and they were at war again by mid-DS9
Now, all they are good for is selling to the EC vendor and several of my 'smaller' characters no longer have any kits or skills to use
Oh wait you forgot the Feds had a treaty with the Gorn didn't you? It's the entire reason the Feds did this. They couldn't support either side since they were ALLIES of both. Also you're ignoring that the KDF just didn't bother giving the Feds any actual proof of their claims.
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I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
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