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  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    gaalom wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Federation- Klingon war was forced in the early stages and that mistake should not be repeated.
    The Romulan war, though technically pre TOS, would be far more interesting in my opinion.

    That is your opinion. The only mistake was making the Klingon faction sole pvp, which surprised allot of people including myself. It was a good war, and I wouldnt mind if it happened again....

    As for the update, seems to be going down the exploration route, but I wont jump the gun just yet until I see what it is all about.

    Chiming in ... remember the Kelvins? The TOS ones that turned people into cubes? So why not an extra-galactic threat/faction? The game could benefit from a map we don't all have memorized (strange new worlds), and species we have never seen (new civilizations) in a whole new faction that uses stargates or transwarp to invade from out there ... (to boldly go where none have gone before).

    Think about it. By all means shoot it down afterwards but at least think about it! :)

    Live Long and Prosper. Remember the I.D.I.C. Qapla!

    Plus picture the consternation of your oponent when they go down and are a 'cube' calling for help from allies, before they respawn ;)
  • admiralkogaradmiralkogar Member Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    dalolorn wrote: »
    Dyslexia is not an inability to read. It's an inability to remember proper letter orders.
    What we see in the quoted post is the failings of the modern education system.
    Regardless of its scientific accuracy, the point is valid. Given the fact that Gawain hasn't made a single typo in that entire post, it is highly unlikely (but not impossible; while dyslexics often also have trouble spelling, dyslexia is primarily a reading-related issue like you said) that he is dyslexic.
    My point was that dyslexia is a specific form of reading disability and not a general inability to read... which is what he claimed.

    Just thought I would say ... I am dyslexic and it takes a lot of effort to double check myself whether reading or typing. However with such effort it is possible to be understood without resorting to spellcheck all the time. I find that reading is easier. I can read upside down and backwards in a mirror about as fast as I can normally. It makes about the same amount of sense. :)

    I once went through a spell check on something I had typed to see how bad it was. The funny thing was that in almost every case the letters I needed to make the word were all there, but not in the correct order. These days I make more generic spelling mistakes than sequential ones.

    Anyway, I should be away grinding to finish Fleet projects. Do carry on without me. :smiley:

    Prosper, Live Long Qapla, I.D.I.C and stuff ...

    Ahh yes .. my whole point being that I think Dyslexia is not the same for each of us as far as the actual severity of it ...
    Peace.
  • mrlostsoul#1950 mrlostsoul Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    Hi. I don't want to play ST original series: agents of yesterday or whatever. I want to play modern/new ST. I went online and started playing the free version. How can I play the era I want? Do I buy the ST Online box from Amazon? Or is there a way to change over online? Please help.
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  • mikoto8472mikoto8472 Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    *Chuckle.*

    No, the alliance simply goes on as most other species of the alpha and beta quadrants all start allying together. By the time the 28th century rolls around everyone will be part of the "Galactic Union" together. I went and looked it up from the mission "Time and Tide". It looks like the Klingons and Romulans eventually join the Federation, and that the Ferengi, Breen, Deferi, Tholians, Xindi, Cardassians, Orions, Cooperative, Kobali and Dominion have all joined the Galactic Unuin.

    Its in one of the new story missions. Our future written down. It seems we still have some enemies left though in the form of the sphere builders, na'kuhl and rogue Krenim though.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    mikoto8472 wrote: »
    *Chuckle.*

    No, the alliance simply goes on as most other species of the alpha and beta quadrants all start allying together. By the time the 28th century rolls around everyone will be part of the "Galactic Union" together. I went and looked it up from the mission "Time and Tide". It looks like the Klingons and Romulans eventually join the Federation, and that the Ferengi, Breen, Deferi, Tholians, Xindi, Cardassians, Orions, Cooperative, Kobali and Dominion have all joined the Galactic Unuin.

    Its in one of the new story missions. Our future written down. It seems we still have some enemies left though in the form of the sphere builders, na'kuhl and rogue Krenim though.

    that union is four hundred YEARS from in-game now, in ONE possible future. A Future where the Klingon people have abandoned their independence and sovereignty to be ruled from Paris.

    a future that is, of course, just SSOOOO perfect, imagine, your mate at your side, children at your feet, a Federation Flag flying over your head. Precious.

    Lick those Starfleet boots. Lick them GOOD.
    On the upside your children will finally get a good education. :p
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    gaalom wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Federation- Klingon war was forced in the early stages and that mistake should not be repeated.
    The Romulan war, though technically pre TOS, would be far more interesting in my opinion.

    That is your opinion. The only mistake was making the Klingon faction sole pvp, which surprised allot of people including myself. It was a good war, and I wouldnt mind if it happened again....

    As for the update, seems to be going down the exploration route, but I wont jump the gun just yet until I see what it is all about.

    Chiming in ... remember the Kelvins? The TOS ones that turned people into cubes? So why not an extra-galactic threat/faction? The game could benefit from a map we don't all have memorized (strange new worlds), and species we have never seen (new civilizations) in a whole new faction that uses stargates or transwarp to invade from out there ... (to boldly go where none have gone before).

    Think about it. By all means shoot it down afterwards but at least think about it! :)

    Live Long and Prosper. Remember the I.D.I.C. Qapla!

    Plus picture the consternation of your oponent when they go down and are a 'cube' calling for help from allies, before they respawn ;)

    Extra-galactic - outside the Milky War, like say, the Andromeda Galaxy.
    Stargates - hm, doorways created by an ancient, almost god-like race allowing travel between worlds...

    Hm. Sounds like you're asking for the Iconians, only, you know, not a five or six mission 'war' that gets solved (except for one renegade who still hates everyone) by returning their 'big shiney' that we ended up with thanks to time travel, completely letting down six years of build up...
    patrickngo wrote: »
    mikoto8472 wrote: »
    *Chuckle.*

    No, the alliance simply goes on as most other species of the alpha and beta quadrants all start allying together. By the time the 28th century rolls around everyone will be part of the "Galactic Union" together. I went and looked it up from the mission "Time and Tide". It looks like the Klingons and Romulans eventually join the Federation, and that the Ferengi, Breen, Deferi, Tholians, Xindi, Cardassians, Orions, Cooperative, Kobali and Dominion have all joined the Galactic Unuin.

    Its in one of the new story missions. Our future written down. It seems we still have some enemies left though in the form of the sphere builders, na'kuhl and rogue Krenim though.

    that union is four hundred YEARS from in-game now, in ONE possible future. A Future where the Klingon people have abandoned their independence and sovereignty to be ruled from Paris.

    a future that is, of course, just SSOOOO perfect, imagine, your mate at your side, children at your feet, a Federation Flag flying over your head. Precious.

    Lick those Starfleet boots. Lick them GOOD.

    Nice quote; Kruge, if I remember correctly, isn't it? Unfortunately, after spending the "Yesterday's War" and "Future Tense" arcs ensuring that timeline, I doubt they'll let us break from it.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    gaalom wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Federation- Klingon war was forced in the early stages and that mistake should not be repeated.
    The Romulan war, though technically pre TOS, would be far more interesting in my opinion.

    That is your opinion. The only mistake was making the Klingon faction sole pvp, which surprised allot of people including myself. It was a good war, and I wouldnt mind if it happened again....

    As for the update, seems to be going down the exploration route, but I wont jump the gun just yet until I see what it is all about.

    Chiming in ... remember the Kelvins? The TOS ones that turned people into cubes? So why not an extra-galactic threat/faction? The game could benefit from a map we don't all have memorized (strange new worlds), and species we have never seen (new civilizations) in a whole new faction that uses stargates or transwarp to invade from out there ... (to boldly go where none have gone before).

    Think about it. By all means shoot it down afterwards but at least think about it! :)

    Live Long and Prosper. Remember the I.D.I.C. Qapla!

    Plus picture the consternation of your oponent when they go down and are a 'cube' calling for help from allies, before they respawn ;)

    Extra-galactic - outside the Milky War, like say, the Andromeda Galaxy.
    Stargates - hm, doorways created by an ancient, almost god-like race allowing travel between worlds...

    Hm. Sounds like you're asking for the Iconians, only, you know, not a five or six mission 'war' that gets solved (except for one renegade who still hates everyone) by returning their 'big shiney' that we ended up with thanks to time travel, completely letting down six years of build up...
    patrickngo wrote: »
    mikoto8472 wrote: »
    *Chuckle.*

    No, the alliance simply goes on as most other species of the alpha and beta quadrants all start allying together. By the time the 28th century rolls around everyone will be part of the "Galactic Union" together. I went and looked it up from the mission "Time and Tide". It looks like the Klingons and Romulans eventually join the Federation, and that the Ferengi, Breen, Deferi, Tholians, Xindi, Cardassians, Orions, Cooperative, Kobali and Dominion have all joined the Galactic Unuin.

    Its in one of the new story missions. Our future written down. It seems we still have some enemies left though in the form of the sphere builders, na'kuhl and rogue Krenim though.

    that union is four hundred YEARS from in-game now, in ONE possible future. A Future where the Klingon people have abandoned their independence and sovereignty to be ruled from Paris.

    a future that is, of course, just SSOOOO perfect, imagine, your mate at your side, children at your feet, a Federation Flag flying over your head. Precious.

    Lick those Starfleet boots. Lick them GOOD.

    Nice quote; Kruge, if I remember correctly, isn't it? Unfortunately, after spending the "Yesterday's War" and "Future Tense" arcs ensuring that timeline, I doubt they'll let us break from it.

    indeed, it was Kruge. sad to think that pathetic little man was completely accurate. (though Chris Lloyd as a Klingon was **** awesome then, and still awesome now.)

    I don't really think Kruge was a 'pathetic little man', he was a man who feared the Federation with a weapon that could destroy a world and everything and everyone on it while leaving a nice fresh planet for them to come in and colonize. Just because he killed David Marcus and was defeated by Kirk doesn't mean he was wrong. He was, from what we've seen of the Federation with time travel, probably completely right. (In fact, wasn't that part of one of the Shattered Universes stories, the one with Thelin instead of Spock? That the Federation used Genesis as a weapon in a war against the Klingons?)
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    patrickngo wrote: »
    mikoto8472 wrote: »
    *Chuckle.*

    No, the alliance simply goes on as most other species of the alpha and beta quadrants all start allying together. By the time the 28th century rolls around everyone will be part of the "Galactic Union" together. I went and looked it up from the mission "Time and Tide". It looks like the Klingons and Romulans eventually join the Federation, and that the Ferengi, Breen, Deferi, Tholians, Xindi, Cardassians, Orions, Cooperative, Kobali and Dominion have all joined the Galactic Unuin.

    Its in one of the new story missions. Our future written down. It seems we still have some enemies left though in the form of the sphere builders, na'kuhl and rogue Krenim though.

    that union is four hundred YEARS from in-game now, in ONE possible future. A Future where the Klingon people have abandoned their independence and sovereignty to be ruled from Paris.

    a future that is, of course, just SSOOOO perfect, imagine, your mate at your side, children at your feet, a Federation Flag flying over your head. Precious.

    Lick those Starfleet boots. Lick them GOOD.
    On the upside your children will finally get a good education. :p

    ohm, I'm certain they'll be FULLY indoctrinated. Possibly along with being medicated. as for EDUCATED? consider this: the Klingon people managed to, if the Starfleet claim is true, reverse engineer 22nd century physics with a 4th century education to get to the Stars.

    proportionally about like a 12th century peasant building a working nuclear power plant. I want you to consider what that means.

    Because humans can't make that leap.

    that's assuming you buy the propoganda that the Klingons 'Stole" warp travel.

    'educated'? try "Held Back" to assure their subservience!
    Another way to look at it is that the Klingons were educated by their masters the Hur'q. We don't actually know how long the Hur'q ruled Qo'nos.
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  • mckurland91mckurland91 Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    With another possible Temporal Enemy in the shadows, I believe that there's only one man who can help save Starfleet: James Tiberius Kirk, voiced once again by William Shatner. Remember he doesn't believe in no-win scenarios. He might be the man needed to turn the tide. If Chekov can get to him in time...
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    With another possible Temporal Enemy in the shadows, I believe that there's only one man who can help save Starfleet: James Tiberius Kirk, voiced once again by William Shatner. Remember he doesn't believe in no-win scenarios. He might be the man needed to turn the tide. If Chekov can get to him in time...

    Unfortunately, I believe his assistance will be blocked by an even greater enemy; appearance (voicing, whatever) fees...

    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    Oh, I don't think the Tzenkethi are doing temporal manipulation... but they are mucking about with weapons that sound distinctly like a stripped-down form of the Genesis Device. This will not end well.

    Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.p3OEBPD6HU3QI.jpg
  • hairtrigger99hairtrigger99 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    How about giving tactical players a reason to stay the new tier six tactical ships are dog TRIBBLE look at the T-6 battle cruiser, it does not even have a commander tactical seat the TACTICAL fleet escort has one pilot seat then look at engineer and science vessels they have multiple bridge officer specializations seats. Tactical ships have maybe one bridge officer specialization seat and its never geared towards TACTICAL abilities. With how hard ARC craps on tactical players its easy to see why there are next to none. Whats the point of bridge officer abilities if tactical players cant even use the top commander abilities and the normal abilities are junk look at beam overload it cant be used with beam target systems like shields or weapons which means tactical officers have 3 or 4 abilities that go completely unused not to mention beam overload doesn't even compare to gravity well or other top science or engineering abilities. As a tactical officer that spent hard earned money on ships that are garbage (yet they are the best tactical ships) i can not continue to pay for or play a game that spits in my face every time i board one of my $30.00 "tactical" ships as a tactical player you are better off buying science or engineering ships at least then you can use all the new fun abilities as of now ARC has clearly stated threw action that they don't care about the game play for a large portion of there paying customers how they can release multiple patches and vessels that leave an entire class on the side lines the new bridge officer abilities look fun but i will never know as tactical ships don't even have commander seats to find out.
  • dumocdumoc Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    Is anyone else not seeing any labels after the upgrade?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    dumoc wrote: »
    Is anyone else not seeing any labels after the upgrade?
    There's a setting in options somewhere for turning them off. Might have gotten changed on accident.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    got a code in my e-mail for a xp boost 1 r&dpack and duty officer pack and it doesnt work arc just tells me to enter a valid code tried every way possible. Trust PWE to TRIBBLE up a giveaway with AOY
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,384 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    robeasom wrote: »
    got a code in my e-mail for a xp boost 1 r&dpack and duty officer pack and it doesnt work arc just tells me to enter a valid code tried every way possible. Trust PWE to **** up a giveaway with AOY

    PWE Have not messed up .... it was removed after a while due to reasons I beleive eminate from players finding a way to exploit the freebies. Sorry you have missed out, but this was not PWE's fault, but inconsiderate players.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/comment/13091577

  • badgerpants999badgerpants999 Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    I'd just like to know why the Artifacts mission makes the game client freeze when I try to beam down to the planet?
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    ARC has clearly stated threw action that they don't care about the game play for a large portion of there paying customers how they can release multiple patches and vessels that leave an entire class on the side lines the new bridge officer abilities look fun but i will never know as tactical ships don't even have commander seats to find out.

    Mein Gott. Someone whining about a focus on things rather than Tactical skills... you really can't win...

    patrickngo wrote: »
    would you like some nice Targ Cheeze to go with your whine, P'taq? (Just because the Klingon people are going to give up their soul, doesn't mean we have to be nice about it...)

    Y'know, I was wondering how hard this membership thing is. The Na'kuhl regarded the Klingons as "vassals" of the Federation / Alliance, yet during Time and Tide you see Korath-class ships in action. So there's clearly still a distinct Klingon force as of the 29th century. The whole thing reminds me of the way that many have viewed Britain in recent years - usually as "American Lapdogs" or irrevocably part of the EU - neither of which is actually true - and the UK does share costs and development of a lot of military equipment with other nations. I mean, the term is "Alliance". That implies a looser confederation than "Empire" or "Federation".

    Anyway, you had Klingons displaying Federation flags in Season 1 of TNG, and they were at war again by mid-DS9 :).
  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    staq16 wrote: »
    ARC has clearly stated threw action that they don't care about the game play for a large portion of there paying customers how they can release multiple patches and vessels that leave an entire class on the side lines the new bridge officer abilities look fun but i will never know as tactical ships don't even have commander seats to find out.

    Mein Gott. Someone whining about a focus on things rather than Tactical skills... you really can't win...

    Want a Cdr Tac slot? Buy an escort, like everyone else. There's Temporal Escort which will let you have Temporal seating with a Cdr Tac, or you could do the same with the Temporal Raider. What is the problem?
    patrickngo wrote: »
    would you like some nice Targ Cheeze to go with your whine, P'taq? (Just because the Klingon people are going to give up their soul, doesn't mean we have to be nice about it...)

    Y'know, I was wondering how hard this membership thing is. The Na'kuhl regarded the Klingons as "vassals" of the Federation / Alliance, yet during Time and Tide you see Korath-class ships in action. So there's clearly still a distinct Klingon force as of the 29th century. The whole thing reminds me of the way that many have viewed Britain in recent years - usually as "American Lapdogs" or irrevocably part of the EU - neither of which is actually true - and the UK does share costs and development of a lot of military equipment with other nations. I mean, the term is "Alliance". That implies a looser confederation than "Empire" or "Federation".

    Anyway, you had Klingons displaying Federation flags in Season 1 of TNG, and they were at war again by mid-DS9 :).

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  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,548 Arc User
    I was disappointed that the really old kits that didn't use modules are all rendered obsolete. I had a collection of these for levelling up characters until I could get nice kits frames and modules.
    Now, all they are good for is selling to the EC vendor and several of my 'smaller' characters no longer have any kits or skills to use :(.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    need I remind you that the reason the Klingons went to war in DS9 with the Federation was that the FEDERATION repudiated that alliance and the terms of it? or that the reason in the current 'verse the Klingons ejected Feds from the Hromi cluster, is that during the conflicts with the Gorn, the federation chose to repudiate their alliance AGAIN and played 'neutral' while covertly aiding the (occupied by Undine) gorn against the Empire (also in violation of treaty?)
    In violation of which treaty? The one between the Feds and KDF or the one between the Feds and the Gorn?

    Oh wait you forgot the Feds had a treaty with the Gorn didn't you? It's the entire reason the Feds did this. They couldn't support either side since they were ALLIES of both. Also you're ignoring that the KDF just didn't bother giving the Feds any actual proof of their claims.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    Indeed. If I remember correctly, in both the Klingon/Cardassian and Klingon/Gorn conflicts, the Federation was not treaty bound to assist the Klingons because the Klingons - no matter how right they might have been (Gorn/Undine) or how manipulated they were (Cardassians) - were acting as the aggressors.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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