Lol no. You make it sound like the Klingons were in the right to start those wars, but they weren't. the Klingons made it impossible for the Feds to help them.
Lol no. You make it sound like the Klingons were in the right to start those wars, but they weren't. the Klingons made it impossible for the Feds to help them.
so yeah, they were well within their rights doing what they did. It's simply inconvenient from the perspective of a supporter of Federation policies to admit.
Yeah, but what you left out is that the Klingons had NO right to demand that the Federation join in on the war. See that is where things went wrong. The Klingons started wars, then asked the Federation to help them attack the third party. That is one thing the treaties did NOT require. If the Cardassians or Gorn had actually attacked the Klingons then the Federation was required to help defend them. But defend only.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
I think he might also be confusing it with some of the DC-comics run of "Star Trek" the comic book. (which FASA mined heavily for SFB). and maybe some of the novels from the seventies or eighties.
(Meanwhile, I'm basing my own arguments off of small-screen, big-screen, and STO's internal canon with some from Mem Alpha...)
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Again, you're conveniently leaving out that the Federation was also allies of the Gorn. In fact the Gorn were a far more reliable ally to the Federation since they didn't try to fight prolonged wars with them for stupid reasons.
I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
I think he might also be confusing it with some of the DC-comics run of "Star Trek" the comic book. (which FASA mined heavily for SFB). and maybe some of the novels from the seventies or eighties.
(Meanwhile, I'm basing my own arguments off of small-screen, big-screen, and STO's internal canon with some from Mem Alpha...)
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Also... In the Klingon War storyline that you play through Fed side all of the parts involving the Gorn are due to the Gorn suddenly invading worlds that they had previously allowed Starfleet to have.
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I think you're mixing up STO with Star Fleet Battles - which is basically a radically different, parallel universe. If you can find a single reference in non-SFB to the Gorn having any relationship other than "leaving well alone" I'd be interested to know...
STO's internal canon is certainly leaning in that direction.
1. DS9 - Cestus III is once again a Federation colony. Seeing as the Gorn consider it to be in their territory...
2. STO:AoY - Starfleet and the Gorn are cooperating on the Metron planet until Romulans throw a spanner in the works, after which Na'kuhl try to throw a second, more overtly Romulan-aided spanner in the works.
(On the other hand, we have the Gorn attack in Days of Doom, so anything's possible...)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
My character Tsin'xing