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So I'll admit that I'm a bit miffed that they put the T6 Temporal Light Cruiser in a lockbox instead of making it a purchasable ship. I would buy a bundle of all the Constitution if it was available but it seems lately all the good ships are being put in lockboxes and I honestly don't like gambling, which is what opening those things are.

Anyone know if there are any plans for a T6 Constitution that we can actually BUY?
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    Anyone know if there are any plans for a T6 Constitution that we can actually BUY?

    Like all lockbox and promo pack ships you can buy this. For 900 million to 1 billion EC you can purchase the Temporal Light Cruiser.

    It's similar to buying a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship way back in the day. It costs more than the exchange cap, so you need to buy one from a fellow player.

    But the value is pretty consistent so far.

    You can try to wait it out and see if it drops in price. The factors you face are that the promo is limited so the supply will remain small and so you're hoping the demand eventually wanes.

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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    So I'll admit that I'm a bit miffed that they put the T6 Temporal Light Cruiser in a lockbox instead of making it a purchasable ship. I would buy a bundle of all the Constitution if it was available but it seems lately all the good ships are being put in lockboxes and I honestly don't like gambling, which is what opening those things are.

    Anyone know if there are any plans for a T6 Constitution that we can actually BUY?

    None whatsoever. Even though I have every iteration, the T6 Connie is vastly OP for it's size. Cryptic have completely lost the plot on what makes sense with regards to ship builds. It shouldn't be out performing ships three times it's size! Basically it's out doing the Arbiter & Vengance, and if it had a cloak it would be a Scimi.
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    captainkrud1960captainkrud1960 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p
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    captainkrud1960captainkrud1960 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    *Connie
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    captainkrud1960captainkrud1960 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Damn autocorrect
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    nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User

    aricwilisch wrote: »
    Anyone know if there are any plans for a T6 Constitution that we can actually BUY?


    You're joking, right?
    Name one other top shelf ship that was suddenly moved to the C store, thereby angering those who already got it and alienating future key/pack purchases?
    Can't name any, can you?

    There's your answer. It will NEVER happen.
    Move on.
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    Like all lockbox and promo pack ships you can buy this. For 900 million to 1 billion EC you can purchase the Temporal Light Cruiser.

    I have seen that low of a going price for some time now. Or is that only seen in the trade channels?
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    salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Recently I've seen only players offering TO BUY for 1 Billion and players offering TO SELL for 1 Billion + keys or even as high as 1.3 Billion. Panic is setting in.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    Recently I've seen only players offering TO BUY for 1 Billion and players offering TO SELL for 1 Billion + keys or even as high as 1.3 Billion. Panic is setting in.

    That's what I've seen. One guy was selling for 1 billion + 90 Keys, a truly insane amount.
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    cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    I will only sell mine for 2 billion each. Forget what everyone else is selling them for, my price keeps people from asking me to sell them one.
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    ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.
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    vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,520 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    I have both myself and the Temporal light cruiser is in my opinion, superior.

    In the right hands, the TOS Connie is devastating.

    You may just be a better player than those other players you mentioned.

    With some players, it really doesn't matter what ship they are flying if they don't know what they're doing, they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
    leemwatson wrote: »
    the T6 Connie is vastly OP for it's size. Cryptic have completely lost the plot on what makes sense with regards to ship builds. It shouldn't be out performing ships three times it's size! Basically it's out doing the Arbiter & Vengance, and if it had a cloak it would be a Scimi.

    I agree with most of what you're saying. The TOS Connie IS an absolute beast.




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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    None whatsoever. Even though I have every iteration, the T6 Connie is vastly OP for it's size. Cryptic have completely lost the plot on what makes sense with regards to ship builds. It shouldn't be out performing ships three times it's size! Basically it's out doing the Arbiter & Vengance, and if it had a cloak it would be a Scimi.

    Where you around when the Avenger or the Defiant entered the game? Have you seen Deep Space Nine? Have you seen the Rhode Island in Voyager?

    Size matters not. Not in Star Trek, not in Star Trek Online.
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I feel yall should give an impartial tester one of these ships, say me, and let me put it through its paces and see if you are correct in its OPness
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    salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I feel yall should give an impartial tester one of these ships, say me, and let me put it through its paces and see if you are correct in its OPness
    All you need to do is look at the stats and, unless you don't know much about how the game works, you'll instantly see that it's at least a Top 5 ship in the game.
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    captainkrud1960captainkrud1960 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    The stats of that ship do not seem to be anything of interest, while yes the TOS Connie has the temporal special ship ability, that's about all that peaks my interest. The stats make it seem like a vengeance that just got neutered and got a shiny new collar (temporal abilities) out of it. I would much rather take the T6 D7 cruiser as at LEAST it has a cloaking device (not sure if it has a battle cloak or not), but I would take my JJ Connie, my Vengeance, my Manasa Escort, or my fleet T6 Prometheus against the TOS Connie any day of the week.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    So I'll admit that I'm a bit miffed that they put the T6 Temporal Light Cruiser in a lockbox instead of making it a purchasable ship. I would buy a bundle of all the Constitution if it was available but it seems lately all the good ships are being put in lockboxes and I honestly don't like gambling, which is what opening those things are.

    Anyone know if there are any plans for a T6 Constitution that we can actually BUY?

    None whatsoever. Even though I have every iteration, the T6 Connie is vastly OP for it's size. Cryptic have completely lost the plot on what makes sense with regards to ship builds. It shouldn't be out performing ships three times it's size! Basically it's out doing the Arbiter & Vengance, and if it had a cloak it would be a Scimi.

    Not this again. Defiant's are small and they can do a hurting in show.

    As for game, I was really lucky to get one, and I love it.


    Personally, here's how I would make a T6 sell version, and avoid alienating the ones who went through hell to get the RD one:

    Make it T6, but take out the Temporal stuff, give it the standard 4 weapons in front, 4 weapons in back, keep the console set up the same as the Temporal, and make all the Boff seatings universal. No need for a special console. And the ship can be customized via the ship tailor. I'd do the same for D7's and T'Liss's as well. <
    I think that's reasonable.
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    whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    I have the T6 TOS Connie, and this ship is superior to the JJPrise. With the same power setup I had for my T6 Excel, the Connie is running a 37' turn rate and moving at 56 vs the Excel's 27' and 42 speed. Add the temporal ability bar, the consoles damage boost, and you find the difference between the TOS and the JJPrise. The ship outmaneuvers and out damages the JJPrise but at the loss of some hull, which these days doesnt seem like much when peoples dps's exceed ship shield and hull stats.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,665 Arc User
    I have the T6 TOS Connie, and this ship is superior to the JJPrise. With the same power setup I had for my T6 Excel, the Connie is running a 37' turn rate and moving at 56 vs the Excel's 27' and 42 speed. Add the temporal ability bar, the consoles damage boost, and you find the difference between the TOS and the JJPrise. The ship outmaneuvers and out damages the JJPrise but at the loss of some hull, which these days doesnt seem like much when peoples dps's exceed ship shield and hull stats.

    And it's prettier...to me, anyhow. ;)

    Might I ask what your build is?
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    hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.

    And yet it seems to show up more in game than TOS Connies.
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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    Make it T6, but take out the Temporal stuff, give it the standard 4 weapons in front, 4 weapons in back, keep the console set up the same as the Temporal, and make all the Boff seatings universal. No need for a special console. And the ship can be customized via the ship tailor. I'd do the same for D7's and T'Liss's as well. <
    I think that's reasonable.

    Can't do it that way. Firstly, the Premium/Lockbox ships are all fleet quality. Most of the T6 store offerings are not fleet quality. So likely it would lose a console. Secondly, all universal seating (an aspect of raiders) has a cost associated with it, which is to lose a weapon. So for your suggestion it would be 4/3 weapon layout with 10 consoles.

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    snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    hartzilla wrote: »
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.

    And yet it seems to show up more in game than TOS Connies.

    ^^^ THIS is quite possibly the greatest thing I have ever seen on the STO Forums.

    Why, not too long ago we all came here and were oppressed in our desire for a T6 Constitution class ship. We could barely talk about it and when we did we were met with all kinds of hostility about dead horses, and what cryptic or cbs may have said.

    And now, in our bold new post-AoY era, we have come together like never before! And in true Internet Community fashion we have now crossed the event horizon and begun our journey down a path of new Forum greatness: Arguments about WHICH T6 CONNIE IS BETTER!

    It chokes me up and brings a tear to my eye to know that I now live in a virtual STO world where the next generation of players and posters can troll/debate/argue/report each other over this hot topic of which endgame ship we used to think we'd NEVER get is the better of the TWO endgame ships we were assured we'd never get!

    I'd say may the best debater win, but truly I feel that no matter how this debate goes, we ALL have won a little something special this day. We've gone from a world where they said NO, we'd never ever get this ship, to a world where we can now insult and argue with each other over which of the TWO options we have are better!
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    It doesn't really matter which Connie you prefer. In the end, after the D7 and T'liss are done with her, either should be hauled away as garbage.
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    hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Most of the T6 store offerings are not fleet quality. So likely it would lose a console.

    And then they make the fleet version which gets the console back.
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    hartzilla wrote: »
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.

    And yet it seems to show up more in game than TOS Connies.

    Oh please, that's because the JJ Connie can be had for a song on the Exchange. I could buy two of them and the price still wouldn't get me a real Connie.
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    salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    hartzilla wrote: »
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.

    And yet it seems to show up more in game than TOS Connies.
    You know what else is strange? Inferior ships like free level 40 sovereigns seem to show up even more than JJprises? Could it be perhaps because the free level 40 ship is superior or more desired by the players to either Constitution? Or could it be that the JJprise and Constitution are hard to come by?
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I feel yall should give an impartial tester one of these ships, say me, and let me put it through its paces and see if you are correct in its OPness
    All you need to do is look at the stats and, unless you don't know much about how the game works, you'll instantly see that it's at least a Top 5 ship in the game.

    nah you need third party testing, you really ought to give me one and let me test it.. :P
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    hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Or could it be that the JJprise and Constitution are hard to come by?

    The TOS one is hard to come by, the JJprise not that much. Hence the greater numbers.
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    vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    hartzilla wrote: »
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Honestly you don't really need the TOS Connie, yes the aesthetic is amazing, but I've killed 10 separate people who were flying the TOS Connie with my JJ Connie. In my opinion, the TOS Conjie is superior in looks, JJ Conjie is Superior in everything else :p

    Yes it died really well in Beyond better then the REAL Enterprise did was the most satisfying death of a starship ever. You should have been there opening night in my city every cheered in the hteater when that ugly POS got destroyed.

    And yet it seems to show up more in game than TOS Connies.

    ^^^ THIS is quite possibly the greatest thing I have ever seen on the STO Forums.

    Why, not too long ago we all came here and were oppressed in our desire for a T6 Constitution class ship. We could barely talk about it and when we did we were met with all kinds of hostility about dead horses, and what cryptic or cbs may have said.

    And now, in our bold new post-AoY era, we have come together like never before! And in true Internet Community fashion we have now crossed the event horizon and begun our journey down a path of new Forum greatness: Arguments about WHICH T6 CONNIE IS BETTER!

    It chokes me up and brings a tear to my eye to know that I now live in a virtual STO world where the next generation of players and posters can troll/debate/argue/report each other over this hot topic of which endgame ship we used to think we'd NEVER get is the better of the TWO endgame ships we were assured we'd never get!

    I'd say may the best debater win, but truly I feel that no matter how this debate goes, we ALL have won a little something special this day. We've gone from a world where they said NO, we'd never ever get this ship, to a world where we can now insult and argue with each other over which of the TWO options we have are better!

    ^^^ This will be my favorite forum quote of the year, I'm sure.
    "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am."
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    vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    It doesn't really matter which Connie you prefer. In the end, after the D7 and T'liss are done with her, either should be hauled away as garbage.

    This is the appropriate RP response :)
    "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am."
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