Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
This topic was argued to death in Ten Forward weeks ago, this is all a rehash of everything that was said there.
At the time I pointed out that because of CBS Rule 5, Vic Mignogna and Chris Doohan may now be forbidden to be involved in any future Star Trek Continues episodes (a new one came out in May and another was due in September). The reason is that rule prevents people that have worked on official Star Trek Shows or Movies or officially licensed 'products' (i.e., Star Trek Online) to work on Fan Films.
There was a discussion about right to 'work' if they they were not under contract, etc.
Star Trek: New Voyages quietly shut down production earlier this year after 12 years. James Cawley is now concentrating on giving tours of his full 'Desilu' Star Trek Studio in Ticonderoga, New York. Those started in July.
They just had a convention on August 12-14 called Trekonderoga. He has a license from CBS to do the Tours of his 'Desilu' Studio. I think it may be $45 per person for the standard or $300 for the VIP Tour. That Studio is less than 100 miles from my home. We may get there later in the Fall.
Axanar really screwed this for all that kept within bounds.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
And CBS was willing to settle without going this far, but then Peters went nuts and tried to countersue. It's like he wanted to force them to do this. That or he actually thought he could bluff them into backing down.
And CBS was willing to settle without going this far, but then Peters went nuts and tried to countersue. It's like he wanted to force them to do this. That or he actually thought he could bluff them into backing down.
Maybe I don't have all the facts, but from what I understand CBS and Paramount took legal action against the Axanar production. Later on at comicon or something the like JJ Abrams stated that the lawsuit would be dropped, but to my knowledge that never happened. A couple months later CBS and Paramount released their draconian fan film guidelines that basically kill all fan production.
And CBS was willing to settle without going this far, but then Peters went nuts and tried to countersue. It's like he wanted to force them to do this. That or he actually thought he could bluff them into backing down.
Maybe I don't have all the facts, but from what I understand CBS and Paramount took legal action against the Axanar production. Later on at comicon or something the like JJ Abrams stated that the lawsuit would be dropped, but to my knowledge that never happened. A couple months later CBS and Paramount released their draconian fan film guidelines that basically kill all fan production.
Yeah, JJ was talking about how CBS had come up with an out of court settlement plan. but Peters instead opted to bath in boiling oil.....
Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
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Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It's in direct competition with the new series so they decided they had to kill it. it's sad but understandable.
It really, really wasn't. Really. It wasn't in competition with other fanworks never mind a fully funded and advertised full scale production. It was killed because it was theft, nothing more, nothing less.
Oh god oh god oh god, please save us from your self righteous indigent internet psychic "I know exactly why x" predictions. You know nothing more than any of us, so please do us a solid favor and not pretend you have some sort of magical tidbit of data that anyone else who spends 15 minutes of their day reading the synopsis of this case already knows. Cheesus Crust when did people start giving themselves internet detective degrees and proclaiming to know more than anyone who disagree with them.
Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Yea, Robbin Hood was a thief too.
Peters may have "borrowed" the IP but in front of my screen, where I sit as fan, he only delivered Star Trek. And very good Trek at that. That’s 100% more than CBS did the past eleven years.
True, as far as the new show is convened we have to wait and see. Rest assured my expectations grew pretty high over the Axanar incident.
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Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Yea, Robbin Hood was a thief too.
Peters may have "borrowed" the IP but in front of my screen, where I sit as fan, he only delivered Star Trek. And very good Trek at that. That’s 100% more than CBS did the past eleven years.
True, as far as the new show is convened we have to wait and see. Rest assured my expectations grew pretty high over the Axanar incident.
Unfortunately many people aren't very intellectually equipped to understand the deep underlying story telling of the period social commentary that previous JJ trek told. Another reason why our current Trek is dumb, is foreign markets. Trek is a decidedly a western culture ideal of heroes, villains, and everything between. One of the reasons why 5 year olds GET trek these days is because the simpler the message, the more of an audience it reaches, the more money it makes. Pure and simple cheeks in seats logic.
"“You can’t make a cerebral Star Trek in 2016. It just wouldn’t work in today’s marketplace. You can hide things in there – Star Trek Into Darkness has crazy, really demanding questions and themes, but you have to hide it under the guise of wham-bam explosions and planets blowing up." - Chris Pine
The grand irony is the people who say JJ's trek is deep and intellectual have more in common with people who believe in chem trails, and big foot, then understand what the writers motivations were behind the scenes in all of the previous series.
It looks like Picardo and Sean Young aren't in this episode. But there's still 8 major Trek stars in it.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
wow ! i find that its too bad that cbs/paramount didn't just buy axanar from that peters guy with the proviso that he have NO further contact with the star trek IP, and just make axanar as an actual movie....seems like a win/win to me...
Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Yea, Robbin Hood was a thief too.
Peters may have "borrowed" the IP but in front of my screen, where I sit as fan, he only delivered Star Trek. And very good Trek at that. That’s 100% more than CBS did the past eleven years.
True, as far as the new show is convened we have to wait and see. Rest assured my expectations grew pretty high over the Axanar incident.
Robin Hood was a myth. The reality is, stealing is stealing.
But the example has already been given by Sheldon. And as Iconians points out, this idea because it was posted on these forums is property of PWE as well as Sheldon and Adam Sandler.
So here's what we, the "fans" have before us:
Adam Sandler crashed his space ship on a planet made of pie and he fell in love with a robot (done by Rob Schneider).
I'm going to work up a poster and possibly a T-Shirt design. And hit up wix or weebly or squarespace to get a free site to start selling it. Making bank! If this has legs, some of the rest of you creatives can join in on this Robin Hood exercise. Let's make it happen! To heck with copyrights! Let's just steal ALL the good ideas and go make cash off of it!
The issue is that if CBS didn't shut down this fan project that allowed people to make money off CBS's trademarks (the characters used are trademarked property of CBS, even if the actors agree to play them in a fan project they shouldn't accept payment for their services, this goes double for the actual Star Trek name), if CBS didn't attempt to protect their trademarks, then it would have opened the gates to anyone who wanted who wanted to make money off Star Trek.
You should also know that there's a terrible pie shortage in the galaxy and Thanksgiving is coming up. So mining pie from the pie planet is crucial to save Thanksgiving. The evil Ingrati hate Thanksgiving and wish to halt the pie mining to cancel the holiday. Oh no!
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Wow. I'm new to this whole discussion, but if Alec Peters really did ruin it for everyone by getting CBS and Paramount to take legal action (e.g. rule #5) so that Vic Mignogna, Chris Doohan and others can't do any fan films anymore, then that makes me really pissed off and sad, because I've been a huge fan of Star Trek Continues since it started. That would suck tremendously.
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Yea, Robbin Hood was a thief too.
Peters may have "borrowed" the IP but in front of my screen, where I sit as fan, he only delivered Star Trek. And very good Trek at that. That’s 100% more than CBS did the past eleven years.
True, as far as the new show is convened we have to wait and see. Rest assured my expectations grew pretty high over the Axanar incident.
How is a film about war set int the Star Trek universe more Star Trek than the three recent movies? Because it isn't. While you have your opinion on the matter that it is about quality, a conflated sense of heroics for saving the franchise, and "borrowing" in the same vein as a thief going into a garage seeing that you are not using your vehicle on how its supposed to be used and "borrowing" it because the thief is saving the vehicle, but realistically it is about an illegal use of the IP for monetary gains. If Peters wins, that means Star Trek could be used by anyone who has the money to pay for it, including Asylum films. Wouldn't that be a great new addition to the canon, Asylum Films present Star Trek vs Transmorphers or Star Trek XIIIV: The New Animotion Picture starring Bruce Boxleiter as CAPT Tim Kirk and C. Thomas Howell as Chang II.
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The point still remains that Peters did NOT have permission to monetize what was labeled as a Fan Project. The money he got from crowdfunding did NOT go to making the movie. It went to building his for profit soundstage. He USED people to make money. Plain and simple. Axanar being good or not compared to what CBS has or hasn't done is beside the point. The point is Peters frakked up.
Please stop making this about Axanar being a challenge to CBS and focus on the real issue. The guy who spearheaded it and made money off of it behind the back of the the IP holder. It was not a licensed project, there was no official endorsement or anything. It was a fan project that was meant to be non profit and ALL crowdfunding proceeds were to go to the production of said fanfilm. That didn't happen. He took that money and used it for a for profit project while basically stealing from Trek fans hoping for an awesome fanfilm. He exploited them to build his soundstage that would be used to make for profit projects. The way I see it... Peters turned Axanar into a scam.
I just hope Star Trek Continues will still be able to, um, continue, and won't be too adversely affected by all this because I've been enjoying the episodes Vic Mignogna and his team have been making thus far.
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I don't see any problems with Continues as that is still a purely nonprofit fan project, and rather small time compared to Axanar. I'm certain CBS will be reasonable with the smaller projects like that. All we can do though is wait and see.
I don't see any problems with Continues as that is still a purely nonprofit fan project, and rather small time compared to Axanar. I'm certain CBS will be reasonable with the smaller projects like that. All we can do though is wait and see.
They are begging as humbly as they can. But I don't see the corporation making any exception right now. And Continues violates most of the fine fan film guidelines.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
1. The fan production must be less than 15 minutes for a single self-contained story, or no more than 2 segments, episodes or parts, not to exceed 30 minutes total, with no additional seasons, episodes, parts, sequels or remakes.
2. The title of the fan production or any parts cannot include the name “Star Trek.” However, the title must contain a subtitle with the phrase: “A STAR TREK FAN PRODUCTION” in plain typeface. The fan production cannot use the term “official” in either its title or subtitle or in any marketing, promotions or social media for the fan production.
1. The fan production must be less than 15 minutes for a single self-contained story, or no more than 2 segments, episodes or parts, not to exceed 30 minutes total, with no additional seasons, episodes, parts, sequels or remakes.
2. The title of the fan production or any parts cannot include the name “Star Trek.” However, the title must contain a subtitle with the phrase: “A STAR TREK FAN PRODUCTION” in plain typeface. The fan production cannot use the term “official” in either its title or subtitle or in any marketing, promotions or social media for the fan production.
This is really going to shake up Continues. More likely end their run. With these guidelines you can't really do anything with it.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
It's a pity that FASA isn't around anymore to sue Peters for stealing the whole Four Years War/Axanar idea in the first place
Interesting that you should mention FASA in the context of IP theft.
For Trek ? Contrary to myth, they did have a licence to produce TNG material for their RPG. It didn't get pulled until CBS decided that the game's lore was too much at odds with what they wanted for the series.
If you're talking about the early Battletech stuff, that's a bit fuzzier.
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Yea... the Marauder and Warhammer being the two prime examples from Battletech.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
At the time I pointed out that because of CBS Rule 5, Vic Mignogna and Chris Doohan may now be forbidden to be involved in any future Star Trek Continues episodes (a new one came out in May and another was due in September). The reason is that rule prevents people that have worked on official Star Trek Shows or Movies or officially licensed 'products' (i.e., Star Trek Online) to work on Fan Films.
There was a discussion about right to 'work' if they they were not under contract, etc.
Star Trek: New Voyages quietly shut down production earlier this year after 12 years. James Cawley is now concentrating on giving tours of his full 'Desilu' Star Trek Studio in Ticonderoga, New York. Those started in July.
They just had a convention on August 12-14 called Trekonderoga. He has a license from CBS to do the Tours of his 'Desilu' Studio. I think it may be $45 per person for the standard or $300 for the VIP Tour. That Studio is less than 100 miles from my home. We may get there later in the Fall.
Axanar really screwed this for all that kept within bounds.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
My character Tsin'xing
Maybe I don't have all the facts, but from what I understand CBS and Paramount took legal action against the Axanar production. Later on at comicon or something the like JJ Abrams stated that the lawsuit would be dropped, but to my knowledge that never happened. A couple months later CBS and Paramount released their draconian fan film guidelines that basically kill all fan production.
My character Tsin'xing
Sure it is sad and all, still it is not as if CBS would have done anything trek related in over a decade.
If others start using the IP and stretch the limits of what can be done with legal countermeasures such as we saw are just hypocrite actions of cowards to protect something one can’t make good use of oneself.
In January next year we will have a direct comparison. The fact that they killed Axanar is all the head start proof one needs to show how much confidence they have in their own new show.
Looks like it will be really bad...
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It was killed for theft. It is impossible to know how well the new show will do as we've seen but a single 30 second teaser of one ship.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Oh god oh god oh god, please save us from your self righteous indigent internet psychic "I know exactly why x" predictions. You know nothing more than any of us, so please do us a solid favor and not pretend you have some sort of magical tidbit of data that anyone else who spends 15 minutes of their day reading the synopsis of this case already knows. Cheesus Crust when did people start giving themselves internet detective degrees and proclaiming to know more than anyone who disagree with them.
Yea, Robbin Hood was a thief too.
Peters may have "borrowed" the IP but in front of my screen, where I sit as fan, he only delivered Star Trek. And very good Trek at that. That’s 100% more than CBS did the past eleven years.
True, as far as the new show is convened we have to wait and see. Rest assured my expectations grew pretty high over the Axanar incident.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
Unfortunately many people aren't very intellectually equipped to understand the deep underlying story telling of the period social commentary that previous JJ trek told. Another reason why our current Trek is dumb, is foreign markets. Trek is a decidedly a western culture ideal of heroes, villains, and everything between. One of the reasons why 5 year olds GET trek these days is because the simpler the message, the more of an audience it reaches, the more money it makes. Pure and simple cheeks in seats logic.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/06/17/chris-pine-you-cant-make-cerebral-star-trek-in-2016/
"“You can’t make a cerebral Star Trek in 2016. It just wouldn’t work in today’s marketplace. You can hide things in there – Star Trek Into Darkness has crazy, really demanding questions and themes, but you have to hide it under the guise of wham-bam explosions and planets blowing up." - Chris Pine
The grand irony is the people who say JJ's trek is deep and intellectual have more in common with people who believe in chem trails, and big foot, then understand what the writers motivations were behind the scenes in all of the previous series.
Went and started their own star trek
With blackjack and hookers
(and Renegades)
http://renegades.show/home/cast/
It looks like Picardo and Sean Young aren't in this episode. But there's still 8 major Trek stars in it.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
They don't need to buy what they already own.
Robin Hood was a myth. The reality is, stealing is stealing.
But the example has already been given by Sheldon. And as Iconians points out, this idea because it was posted on these forums is property of PWE as well as Sheldon and Adam Sandler.
So here's what we, the "fans" have before us:
I'm going to work up a poster and possibly a T-Shirt design. And hit up wix or weebly or squarespace to get a free site to start selling it. Making bank! If this has legs, some of the rest of you creatives can join in on this Robin Hood exercise. Let's make it happen! To heck with copyrights! Let's just steal ALL the good ideas and go make cash off of it!
I'm in. Who's with me?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Interesting that you should mention FASA in the context of IP theft.
How is a film about war set int the Star Trek universe more Star Trek than the three recent movies? Because it isn't. While you have your opinion on the matter that it is about quality, a conflated sense of heroics for saving the franchise, and "borrowing" in the same vein as a thief going into a garage seeing that you are not using your vehicle on how its supposed to be used and "borrowing" it because the thief is saving the vehicle, but realistically it is about an illegal use of the IP for monetary gains. If Peters wins, that means Star Trek could be used by anyone who has the money to pay for it, including Asylum films. Wouldn't that be a great new addition to the canon, Asylum Films present Star Trek vs Transmorphers or Star Trek XIIIV: The New Animotion Picture starring Bruce Boxleiter as CAPT Tim Kirk and C. Thomas Howell as Chang II.
Please stop making this about Axanar being a challenge to CBS and focus on the real issue. The guy who spearheaded it and made money off of it behind the back of the the IP holder. It was not a licensed project, there was no official endorsement or anything. It was a fan project that was meant to be non profit and ALL crowdfunding proceeds were to go to the production of said fanfilm. That didn't happen. He took that money and used it for a for profit project while basically stealing from Trek fans hoping for an awesome fanfilm. He exploited them to build his soundstage that would be used to make for profit projects. The way I see it... Peters turned Axanar into a scam.
They are begging as humbly as they can. But I don't see the corporation making any exception right now. And Continues violates most of the fine fan film guidelines.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
CBS disagrees.
This is really going to shake up Continues. More likely end their run. With these guidelines you can't really do anything with it.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
For Trek ? Contrary to myth, they did have a licence to produce TNG material for their RPG. It didn't get pulled until CBS decided that the game's lore was too much at odds with what they wanted for the series.
If you're talking about the early Battletech stuff, that's a bit fuzzier.