I always wondered what would happen if a person tried to pass through a gate that when they were all simultaneously connected like that...
As for a revival of the franchise... according to the Stargate Wikipedia article MGM has plans to do a sequel to the original movie, but it would sadly ignore all the SG1-Atlantis-Universe stuff.
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As for a revival of the franchise... according to the Stargate Wikipedia article MGM has plans to do a sequel to the original movie, but it would sadly ignore all the SG1-Atlantis-Universe stuff.
Its less of a sequel and more of a reboot. Luckilly we can headcanon it as an alternate universe which keeps SG-1 intact. Technically SG-1 was an alternate universe already as in the movie O'Neill's son was named Tyler while in SG-1 it was Charlie.
That doesn't explain how the Earth point of origin seems to have magically wound up on at least three other gates, two of which were destroyed shortly after dialing Destiny.
earth was the ancient base of operations for who knows how long after they left their home galaxy; maybe they made additional backup gates for earth besides the one that ended up in antarctica
A common misconception. The Antarctica gate was the 'real' Earth gate, but the gate typically known as the 'Earth gate' was picked up from somewhere else by the Goa'uld. (Then again, it's been a while since I watched those episodes, so it may be that Eli used the Antarctica symbol rather than the Goa'uld one. I don't think he did, though.)
Plus it doesn't explain why those backup gates then proceeded to be seeded across the galaxy like there was nothing wrong with them. You're supposed to keep backups safely tucked away in storage until they're needed, not make them necessary!
That doesn't explain how the Earth point of origin seems to have magically wound up on at least three other gates, two of which were destroyed shortly after dialing Destiny.
Who says the glyph was actually on the gate? You can dial using glyphs that aren't stamped into the metal of the gate.
Says who, headcanon?
Seriously, though. Where has it actually been stated that you can do that? As far as I know, it was certainly not the series whose very premise had become dependent on such an explanation.
Says the fact that you can use ANY dialing device with any gate and have it work properly. Also, the remote dialing computers..... which is what was used in the episode, they don't even have a physical connection to the Gate.
Actually, it has been said in at least one episode that they had to reconfigure the DHDs on something - could have been Atlantis or a puddle jumper - when going from one galaxy to another. I may be misremembering the exact dialogue, but right now my memory says what it says.
As for remote dialing, that's hardly anything new. Remember, they have the complete and unabridged encyclopedia on all things Asgard, as well as an increased understanding of how DHDs work - both the Asgard dialer (as seen in 'The Fifth Race', I think?) and the DHD work without a physical connection to a Stargate.
That doesn't explain how the Earth point of origin seems to have magically wound up on at least three other gates, two of which were destroyed shortly after dialing Destiny.
Who says the glyph was actually on the gate? You can dial using glyphs that aren't stamped into the metal of the gate.
Says who, headcanon?
Seriously, though. Where has it actually been stated that you can do that? As far as I know, it was certainly not the series whose very premise had become dependent on such an explanation.
Says the fact that you can use ANY dialing device with any gate and have it work properly. Also, the remote dialing computers..... which is what was used in the episode, they don't even have a physical connection to the Gate.
also, the fact that you can apparently hack a single DHD to dial every stargate in the galaxy...all of which have symbols that are certainly not on the DHD in question
Another understandable mistake. The only symbol that is not on all of the DHDs/gates is the point of origin symbol, as each gate has its own point of origin. The seventh (or eighth for intergalactic trips) symbol does not depend on your destination but on where you're coming from. (Really, the more impressive feat is that the gate was capable of establishing multiple simultaneous connections.)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
according to what i read up about this stargate reboot, the two people who created the original are going to be the ones to do the reboot however they have other projects they are working on at this time. it would take a long time before this reboot stargate series becomes a reality. the next farscape film is likely to come out before this reboot trilogy of films is likey to hit the box office.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
As for a revival of the franchise... according to the Stargate Wikipedia article MGM has plans to do a sequel to the original movie, but it would sadly ignore all the SG1-Atlantis-Universe stuff.
Its less of a sequel and more of a reboot. Luckilly we can headcanon it as an alternate universe which keeps SG-1 intact. Technically SG-1 was an alternate universe already as in the movie O'Neill's son was named Tyler while in SG-1 it was Charlie.
And it was established that Stargate DOES use the many universe concept as in at least one episode they hopepd around between universes.
actually, the multiverse showed up multiple times, three at least that i know of - first when daniel found that mirror thingie on P3R-233, then again when an alternate carter and kawalsky used that same mirror to escape their own reality to come to the prime one, and a third time when a burst of energy inside a wormhole traveling through a back hole (though i have absolutely no idea how the hell that would even be possible, because black holes tear apart everything even past the subatomic level) caused an active gate to open bridges to several different realities
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It's unlikely the original actors will reprise their old roles. Every show has a shelf-life for that reason. What they have to do is make a "Next Generation" style of show. I'm all for that, for either SG1 or Atlantis. Probably wouldn't work for SGU, however. That show's story was a one-and-done.
I've pretty much have had my fill with Stargate shows in any form. That horse has been beaten to death, animated as undead, beaten to death again, and reincarnated. There's nothing new in that well to draw from. I feel almost the same way about Star Trek, save for the online games.
The only thing I'd like to see would be a novel series that would wrap up all the hanging storylines and finally put it to bed. But I won't holding my breath for it.
The main difference between how I feel about the SG 'verse vs Babylon 5, is for me the latter was generally a lot more interesting and it's story IS done.
Universe, however, can go burn in a fire. Both because of what it was and what it denied us.
Why do you not like SGU? If you do not mind me asking?
Speaking for myself, I really wanted to like SGU. Besides a general desire to see science fiction shows do well and find a bigger audience, John Scalzi, who served as creative consultant on the series, officiated at my wedding. I want all his projects to be successful. He's a good guy.
Unfortunately, the SciFi channel (I refuse to use their rebranding spelling) wanted a two-for-one deal. They wants to capture the Stargate audience with the name and the shared universe, and they wanted to capture the BSG audience with its absurdly grimdark flavor. The result of this terrible combination, despite a valiant effort by the cast, was pretty much unwatchable.
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Actually, it has been said in at least one episode that they had to reconfigure the DHDs on something - could have been Atlantis or a puddle jumper - when going from one galaxy to another. I may be misremembering the exact dialogue, but right now my memory says what it says.
Actually... I believe that they had to do something to allow a Milky Way gate to function in the vacinity of a Pegasus gate because the Pegasus gates were newer and overriding gate control from the Milky Way models. They encountered this problem when establishing the Intergalactic Gate Bridge between the Milky Way and Pegasus. Half the gates were Milky Way models and the other half were Pegasus models, with one of each on the central space station.
The main difference between how I feel about the SG 'verse vs Babylon 5, is for me the latter was generally a lot more interesting and it's story IS done.
And yet fans want more B5. Crusade was a failure because someone made the decision to air it SERIOUSLY out of order, Legend of the Rangers failed, probably because of the gimicky combat system the Liandra had and she probably came across as too much like the Defiant or something, although I liked the grenade filled escape pod. That was clever.
The B5 'verse is still open for stories and fans want more stories. The actual station's story itself may be done, but its a big universe that was opened up all those years ago.
Actually, it has been said in at least one episode that they had to reconfigure the DHDs on something - could have been Atlantis or a puddle jumper - when going from one galaxy to another. I may be misremembering the exact dialogue, but right now my memory says what it says.
Actually... I believe that they had to do something to allow a Milky Way gate to function in the vacinity of a Pegasus gate because the Pegasus gates were newer and overriding gate control from the Milky Way models. They encountered this problem when establishing the Intergalactic Gate Bridge between the Milky Way and Pegasus. Half the gates were Milky Way models and the other half were Pegasus models, with one of each on the central space station.
No, I don't think that was it. (But true nonetheless.)
The main difference between how I feel about the SG 'verse vs Babylon 5, is for me the latter was generally a lot more interesting and it's story IS done.
And yet fans want more B5. Crusade was a failure because someone made the decision to air it SERIOUSLY out of order, Legend of the Rangers failed, probably because of the gimicky combat system the Liandra had and she probably came across as too much like the Defiant or something, although I liked the grenade filled escape pod. That was clever.
The B5 'verse is still open for stories and fans want more stories. The actual station's story itself may be done, but its a big universe that was opened up all those years ago.
Yep, same thing goes for SG.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I think the core problem Stargate started to run into was that it had outgrown its core premise of Earth being the scrappy underdog fighting for survival. By the time SG1 and Atlantis ended Earth had the Asgard's full library of knowledge at its disposal and was reverse engineering Ancient technology from Atlantis. Instead of being a poorly defended planet Earth became a powerhouse with a growing fleet of ships, a ground based Ancient defense outpost, and the Atlantis city-ship parked in the Pacific Ocean, and a vague reference to a new moon base in the Continuum movie. They had reached the point where it was getting into more generic Star Wars style territory, which sadly tends to exceed a reasonable TV budget.
I think the core problem Stargate started to run into was that it had outgrown its core premise of Earth being the scrappy underdog fighting for survival. By the time SG1 and Atlantis ended Earth had the Asgard's full library of knowledge at its disposal and was reverse engineering Ancient technology from Atlantis. Instead of being a poorly defended planet Earth became a powerhouse with a growing fleet of ships, a ground based Ancient defense outpost, and the Atlantis city-ship parked in the Pacific Ocean, and a vague reference to a new moon base in the Continuum movie. They had reached the point where it was getting into more generic Star Wars style territory, which sadly tends to exceed a reasonable TV budget.
It had to happen. One of the SGC missions was to get technology to defend Earth. But still that does not mean Earth and the allies are invincible. There can always be potential enemies and other dangers. The universe is huge remember. Still with the advanced technology they had there was mostly an enemy more powerful. Look at the Wraith and the Atlanteans (Pegasus Ancients) for example, it was mentioned the even though the Atlanteans are more technological advanced, the Wraith were more powerful because of numbers and using other smart methods. They were still the underdog in some things, which is fine but being the underdog all the time will get over used and people will start to think how are they doing this or that, why have they not improved after all these missions.
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Actually I think the Ancient Outpost was neutralized in the finale of Atlantis, since The Chair was moved to Area 51... and got kamikazed by Darts. Frankly I believe that Atlantis would have returned to the Pegasus Galaxy at some point as it was only a matter of time before someone ran into Atlantis, cloak or no cloak. And I don't remember anything about a moon base.
Actually I think the Ancient Outpost was neutralized in the finale of Atlantis, since The Chair was moved to Area 51... and got kamikazed by Darts. Frankly I believe that Atlantis would have returned to the Pegasus Galaxy at some point as it was only a matter of time before someone ran into Atlantis, cloak or no cloak. And I don't remember anything about a moon base.
Ancient outpost is defunct until they MacGyver a new control chair. Atlantis was slated to return to Pegasus in the movie (and did in fact do so in the Legacy books), and I remember hearing about the moon base.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Yeah I saw in descriptions of the book series that Atlantis was sent back to Pegasus... which I personally don't think makes any sense. Atlantis represented a massive opportunity for reverse engineering Ancient technology, having it on Earth makes it so much easier to exploit and defend, plus the city has its own control chair so they could just pack up the outpost's drones and send them to Atlantis.
Packing the city back up and sending it off into dangerous territory is something the politicians would never realistically green light. If anything they would be more likely to shut down the SGC and move all its operations to Atlantis as a neutral international base of operations.
Yeah I saw in descriptions of the book series that Atlantis was sent back to Pegasus... which I personally don't think makes any sense. Atlantis represented a massive opportunity for reverse engineering Ancient technology, having it on Earth makes it so much easier to exploit and defend, plus the city has its own control chair so they could just pack up the outpost's drones and send them to Atlantis.
Packing the city back up and sending it off into dangerous territory is something the politicians would never realistically green light. If anything they would be more likely to shut down the SGC and move all its operations to Atlantis as a neutral international base of operations.
Atlantis was also a very good outpost back in Pegasus. Earth is A: in a much safer location (with the Ori threat gone, the only thing that would even WANT to attack is the Lucian Alliance) and B: self-sustaining.
Building a new Pegasus base would be an unnecessary waste of resources, and that base wouldn't be half as effective at withstanding Wraith attacks (or those by the unidentified aliens from The Daedalus Variations) as Atlantis is. They can already study the city in Pegasus.
SG-U had a good premise and solid casting IMO. I think the creators tried to stray too far from what made SG-1 and Atlantis successful. It was much too dark in my opinion.
*nods*
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I liked SGU but it was way too close to similar to the new Battlestar Galactica. I really liked Atlantis (except when they killed Beckett) and hated the final episode. Humans were responsible for awakening the Wraiths in the Pegasus Galaxy and the final episode felt rushed. We're home now, let the people in the Pegasus Galaxy be food for the Wraiths. Not our problem anymore.
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Yeah I saw in descriptions of the book series that Atlantis was sent back to Pegasus... which I personally don't think makes any sense. Atlantis represented a massive opportunity for reverse engineering Ancient technology, having it on Earth makes it so much easier to exploit and defend, plus the city has its own control chair so they could just pack up the outpost's drones and send them to Atlantis.
Packing the city back up and sending it off into dangerous territory is something the politicians would never realistically green light. If anything they would be more likely to shut down the SGC and move all its operations to Atlantis as a neutral international base of operations.
Because of the Pegasus gate in Atlantis overriding priority from the Milky Way gate in the SGC, Atlantis would have become the primaray gate on Earth. Not only that, but leaving Atlantis in San Fransisco Bay was just asking for a random boat to run into the city, thus exposing the still secret Stargate Program to the world. Not to mention all the various satellites that could spot the city should the cloak fail. If Atlantis was revealed, do you know the political firestorm that would result by other nations discovering certain nations had been holding out on them? North Korea, Iran, and many others not involved with the Stargate Program would be DEMANDING their share of the tech, and they'd want it NOW.
Not to mention the fact that the Atlantis Expedition still has a responsibility in Pegasus, as well as giving the SGC an outpost in Pegasus.
north korea, iran and many others can stomp their feet all they want - they wouldn't get a damn thing because they're run by terrorists, psychopaths or other mentally-deranged nutjobs
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I think the core problem Stargate started to run into was that it had outgrown its core premise of Earth being the scrappy underdog fighting for survival. By the time SG1 and Atlantis ended Earth had the Asgard's full library of knowledge at its disposal and was reverse engineering Ancient technology from Atlantis. Instead of being a poorly defended planet Earth became a powerhouse with a growing fleet of ships, a ground based Ancient defense outpost, and the Atlantis city-ship parked in the Pacific Ocean, and a vague reference to a new moon base in the Continuum movie. They had reached the point where it was getting into more generic Star Wars style territory, which sadly tends to exceed a reasonable TV budget.
It had to happen. One of the SGC missions was to get technology to defend Earth. But still that does not mean Earth and the allies are invincible. There can always be potential enemies and other dangers. The universe is huge remember. Still with the advanced technology they had there was mostly an enemy more powerful. Look at the Wraith and the Atlanteans (Pegasus Ancients) for example, it was mentioned the even though the Atlanteans are more technological advanced, the Wraith were more powerful because of numbers and using other smart methods. They were still the underdog in some things, which is fine but being the underdog all the time will get over used and people will start to think how are they doing this or that, why have they not improved after all these missions.
Everyone, sign that petition, e-mail MGM or send a letter to MGM and hopefully they can start SGU again. The more they know people want to watch SGU the better. Either do another series or finish of the story with movies.
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As for a revival of the franchise... according to the Stargate Wikipedia article MGM has plans to do a sequel to the original movie, but it would sadly ignore all the SG1-Atlantis-Universe stuff.
Its less of a sequel and more of a reboot. Luckilly we can headcanon it as an alternate universe which keeps SG-1 intact. Technically SG-1 was an alternate universe already as in the movie O'Neill's son was named Tyler while in SG-1 it was Charlie.
A common misconception. The Antarctica gate was the 'real' Earth gate, but the gate typically known as the 'Earth gate' was picked up from somewhere else by the Goa'uld. (Then again, it's been a while since I watched those episodes, so it may be that Eli used the Antarctica symbol rather than the Goa'uld one. I don't think he did, though.)
Plus it doesn't explain why those backup gates then proceeded to be seeded across the galaxy like there was nothing wrong with them. You're supposed to keep backups safely tucked away in storage until they're needed, not make them necessary!
Actually, it has been said in at least one episode that they had to reconfigure the DHDs on something - could have been Atlantis or a puddle jumper - when going from one galaxy to another. I may be misremembering the exact dialogue, but right now my memory says what it says.
As for remote dialing, that's hardly anything new. Remember, they have the complete and unabridged encyclopedia on all things Asgard, as well as an increased understanding of how DHDs work - both the Asgard dialer (as seen in 'The Fifth Race', I think?) and the DHD work without a physical connection to a Stargate.
Another understandable mistake. The only symbol that is not on all of the DHDs/gates is the point of origin symbol, as each gate has its own point of origin. The seventh (or eighth for intergalactic trips) symbol does not depend on your destination but on where you're coming from. (Really, the more impressive feat is that the gate was capable of establishing multiple simultaneous connections.)
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
My character Tsin'xing
and that was just SG-1
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Scrapped and/or recycled by now. These things take up space, which is not cheap.
I've pretty much have had my fill with Stargate shows in any form. That horse has been beaten to death, animated as undead, beaten to death again, and reincarnated. There's nothing new in that well to draw from. I feel almost the same way about Star Trek, save for the online games.
The only thing I'd like to see would be a novel series that would wrap up all the hanging storylines and finally put it to bed. But I won't holding my breath for it.
The main difference between how I feel about the SG 'verse vs Babylon 5, is for me the latter was generally a lot more interesting and it's story IS done.
Speaking for myself, I really wanted to like SGU. Besides a general desire to see science fiction shows do well and find a bigger audience, John Scalzi, who served as creative consultant on the series, officiated at my wedding. I want all his projects to be successful. He's a good guy.
Unfortunately, the SciFi channel (I refuse to use their rebranding spelling) wanted a two-for-one deal. They wants to capture the Stargate audience with the name and the shared universe, and they wanted to capture the BSG audience with its absurdly grimdark flavor. The result of this terrible combination, despite a valiant effort by the cast, was pretty much unwatchable.
Actually... I believe that they had to do something to allow a Milky Way gate to function in the vacinity of a Pegasus gate because the Pegasus gates were newer and overriding gate control from the Milky Way models. They encountered this problem when establishing the Intergalactic Gate Bridge between the Milky Way and Pegasus. Half the gates were Milky Way models and the other half were Pegasus models, with one of each on the central space station.
And yet fans want more B5. Crusade was a failure because someone made the decision to air it SERIOUSLY out of order, Legend of the Rangers failed, probably because of the gimicky combat system the Liandra had and she probably came across as too much like the Defiant or something, although I liked the grenade filled escape pod. That was clever.
The B5 'verse is still open for stories and fans want more stories. The actual station's story itself may be done, but its a big universe that was opened up all those years ago.
My character Tsin'xing
My character Tsin'xing
No, I don't think that was it. (But true nonetheless.)
Yep, same thing goes for SG.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
which means creating all this stuff from scrach again, thats even more time, manpower and money to get all that back.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
It had to happen. One of the SGC missions was to get technology to defend Earth. But still that does not mean Earth and the allies are invincible. There can always be potential enemies and other dangers. The universe is huge remember. Still with the advanced technology they had there was mostly an enemy more powerful. Look at the Wraith and the Atlanteans (Pegasus Ancients) for example, it was mentioned the even though the Atlanteans are more technological advanced, the Wraith were more powerful because of numbers and using other smart methods. They were still the underdog in some things, which is fine but being the underdog all the time will get over used and people will start to think how are they doing this or that, why have they not improved after all these missions.
Ancient outpost is defunct until they MacGyver a new control chair. Atlantis was slated to return to Pegasus in the movie (and did in fact do so in the Legacy books), and I remember hearing about the moon base.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Packing the city back up and sending it off into dangerous territory is something the politicians would never realistically green light. If anything they would be more likely to shut down the SGC and move all its operations to Atlantis as a neutral international base of operations.
Atlantis was also a very good outpost back in Pegasus. Earth is A: in a much safer location (with the Ori threat gone, the only thing that would even WANT to attack is the Lucian Alliance) and B: self-sustaining.
Building a new Pegasus base would be an unnecessary waste of resources, and that base wouldn't be half as effective at withstanding Wraith attacks (or those by the unidentified aliens from The Daedalus Variations) as Atlantis is. They can already study the city in Pegasus.
*nods*
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Because of the Pegasus gate in Atlantis overriding priority from the Milky Way gate in the SGC, Atlantis would have become the primaray gate on Earth. Not only that, but leaving Atlantis in San Fransisco Bay was just asking for a random boat to run into the city, thus exposing the still secret Stargate Program to the world. Not to mention all the various satellites that could spot the city should the cloak fail. If Atlantis was revealed, do you know the political firestorm that would result by other nations discovering certain nations had been holding out on them? North Korea, Iran, and many others not involved with the Stargate Program would be DEMANDING their share of the tech, and they'd want it NOW.
Not to mention the fact that the Atlantis Expedition still has a responsibility in Pegasus, as well as giving the SGC an outpost in Pegasus.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
My character Tsin'xing
Mustrum "Crossing the Franchises is okay if the the actors did it first" Ridcully
There is also a petition to bring back all 3 Stargate series. https://www.change.org/p/bring-back-stargate-atlantis-sg1-and-sgu.