Iconic ships (including Prometheus) don't need stellar stats to sell well. That's why I'm afraid of the new Defiant. But TRIBBLE or not TRIBBLE I will buy it nevertheless.
Defiant is doomed, it will have to compete with the excellent (OP) pilot escort stats and perks. I'm really curious what kind of powercreep will come with the ship to make it more appealing.
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Iconic ships (including Prometheus) don't need stellar stats to sell well. That's why I'm afraid of the new Defiant. But TRIBBLE or not TRIBBLE I will buy it nevertheless.
The biggest plus for the defiant will without doubt be the visuals. Boff layout will be difficult since the phantom and pilot ships have strong intel and pilot seating thereby making it difficult to get something unique for a T6 Defiant.
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Iconic ships (including Prometheus) don't need stellar stats to sell well. That's why I'm afraid of the new Defiant. But TRIBBLE or not TRIBBLE I will buy it nevertheless.
The biggest plus for the defiant will without doubt be the visuals. Boff layout will be difficult since the phantom and pilot ships have strong intel and pilot seating thereby making it difficult to get something unique for a T6 Defiant.
The current defiant's boff layout is pretty bad and I'm thinking that the t6 version won't be very good either. That is if cryptic stays the course with it's T6 offerings of older T5 ships. The Hestia and Resolute both were left with gimped boff layouts. However, the Andromeda's was significantly improved... so who knows. Maybe defiant fans will get thrown a bone.
Exactly, the original layout of Galaxy was so underwhelming, that it wasn't that hard to improve it greatly.
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Back going back to the Yamato, I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
Stats should be revealed later today and I'm sure everyone is looking forward to that.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
Iconic ships (including Prometheus) don't need stellar stats to sell well. That's why I'm afraid of the new Defiant. But TRIBBLE or not TRIBBLE I will buy it nevertheless.
The biggest plus for the defiant will without doubt be the visuals. Boff layout will be difficult since the phantom and pilot ships have strong intel and pilot seating thereby making it difficult to get something unique for a T6 Defiant.
The current defiant's boff layout is pretty bad and I'm thinking that the t6 version won't be very good either. That is if cryptic stays the course with it's T6 offerings of older T5 ships. The Hestia and Resolute both were left with gimped boff layouts. However, the Andromeda's was significantly improved... so who knows. Maybe defiant fans will get thrown a bone.
To be fair, where the Andromedia is concerned, that was hardly difficult ;-)
Ha ha - true enough. The T5 Galaxy had arguably the worst boff layout in the game.
As for the Yamato I'm wagering that the Lt tac seat becomes LtCmd. Alternatively, perhaps that Ensign Universal might be made into an Lt Universal for added flexibility. Those are my two best guesses.
the pattern with T6 upgrades seems to be take the T5 boff seats and give one of them a promotion. then just lift the T5U con layout for the T6. That being said I expect the T6 Gal X to have the same boff layout as the Andromeda with a con layout of 5/2/3 with the fleet version getting an extra tac con
unless there is some form of set bonus i see no reason to use the gal x con over a plasmonic leech
But not many people can afford a new one these days. For these people Cryptic introduces lots and lots of alternatives without pissing off those who own/acquired the leeches. It's all an effort to stabilize the status quo, I think.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
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"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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unless there is some form of set bonus i see no reason to use the gal x con over a plasmonic leech
But not many people can afford a new one these days. For these people Cryptic introduces lots and lots of alternatives without pissing off those who own/acquired the leeches. It's all an effort to stabilize the status quo, I think.
If the con can only be used on the ships in this set I see no reason why the con cant be as good as the leech. Even if the con was as good as the leech the leech would still be better by default because it isnt restricted to specific ships
Leech would also probably be better since it isn't going to be locked to a CD as well, if this console has one (rather than being a passive).
If it was a passive i would use the new con. As is im favoring the leech. I know the leech cant stack with other similar effects but just out of curiosity if both these cons were slotted what would happen? Does the more efficient con take priority?
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
Yes, but people like to stray from that, either because they don't see the pattern or they just want to embrace in wishful thinking
To be fair though, the LTC Tac on the Andromeda came completely out of nowhere. It should have gotten a LTC Sci and the Dreadnaught could now get a LTC Tac which would make more sense.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
Yes, but people like to stray from that, either because they don't see the pattern or they just want to embrace in wishful thinking
To be fair though, the LTC Tac on the Andromeda came completely out of nowhere. It should have gotten a LTC Sci and the Dreadnaught could now get a LTC Tac which would make more sense.
Actually, I feel it kinda makes sense? The Galaxy class was refit during the Dominion War, mostly to give it more weapons.
The Lt.Cdr Tac seat could be a reflection of that.
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
Yes, but people like to stray from that, either because they don't see the pattern or they just want to embrace in wishful thinking
To be fair though, the LTC Tac on the Andromeda came completely out of nowhere. It should have gotten a LTC Sci and the Dreadnaught could now get a LTC Tac which would make more sense.
Actually, I feel it kinda makes sense? The Galaxy class was refit during the Dominion War, mostly to give it more weapons.
The Lt.Cdr Tac seat could be a reflection of that.
That or to show that starfleet began to have their officers, or the officers themselves began to focus more on tactical practices making them more adapt at their use an the tactical systems of the starships. This would equally show a increase in the tactical proformance of a starcraft by more adept an trained officers in that station's useage, also it would easily be seen as better to train in tactial operations to better defend an fight during a war since losing means many lives lost even beyond the starcraft you are on.
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
Yes, but people like to stray from that, either because they don't see the pattern or they just want to embrace in wishful thinking
To be fair though, the LTC Tac on the Andromeda came completely out of nowhere. It should have gotten a LTC Sci and the Dreadnaught could now get a LTC Tac which would make more sense.
I agree. That would make most sense while it would differentiate the two ships.
I'm not sure they're gonna want to make the Galaxy-X identical to the Galaxy. And I don't see the Galaxy-X getting a Lt.Comm. Sci. So maybe make the Ensign Uni a Lieutenant? Other than that, I ran out of probable ideas.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Iconic ships (including Prometheus) don't need stellar stats to sell well. That's why I'm afraid of the new Defiant. But TRIBBLE or not TRIBBLE I will buy it nevertheless.
The biggest plus for the defiant will without doubt be the visuals. Boff layout will be difficult since the phantom and pilot ships have strong intel and pilot seating thereby making it difficult to get something unique for a T6 Defiant.
Hell, when Profits Rising came out, I said that Cryptic should have attached the Defiant / Defiant-variant skins to the Phantom and watch the money roll in. Statistically, Phantom fixed every complaint leveled about the T5 Defiant. Built in cloaking device. More robust BOFF layout. Full Intel access while still maintaining the weapons and handling of the Defiant. It just needed the damn skins. Lots of people I recall sat on the fence about the Phantom. If it had Defiant skins, LOL, they would have jumped right off!
These days? It's just hard to top the Pilot Ships, regardless of faction.
Still, I'd expect the T6 Defiant to sell ridiculously well. Ships from the shows and movies are half the reason why we're Star Trek fans (at least for me).
Most likely the Tier six Defiant will come out at the release or near the release of the next season, since it is based ion the same arc an quadrant the Defiant was regularly used in. So i think it will get either usage of a Lt.com or even maybe a com hybrid seat of the next new specialization to come in season just not sure what it would be. Still wishing they would make either that we can have low-seat (Ens or Lt.) hybrid seatings, or that a Universal seat can use abilities from even the specializations up to a limit maybe up to one rank below the seat's rank. That would give us more usage of the specializations, while also still making a specialization ships valuable for thier full usage of specialization abilties.
I think I'm buying, regardless. I've yet to buy any C-Store ships for my non-Fed toons, and these ships look pretty good to me, so if I get the 3-pack, I basically get one for free...
Until you consider the 3-pack'll cost the same as 3 individually priced T-5 ships... Oh well...
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The most important part of all of this is the fact the KDF ship isn't a Klingon design. The Gal-X can go suck a plasma injector for all I care and I'm indifferent on the Ha'apax-X, but man, if the Nausi ship sells? We might see the other non-Klingon ships get T6 equivalents, or at least designs for those races.
Imagine a Gorn Vesta, or an Orion FDC with an Eng/Tac layout... mmmm... I'm almost tempted to buy the Nausi ship just to bolster their sales figures, even if I won't use it on anyone. Except for the fact I have some semblance of fiscal sense, that is. Sure, I did that with the Mogh, but I also had a toon who ended up using it until the T6 Peghqu' dropped.
So far, every T6 ship re-release kept the same console slots and weapon arrangement as their T5-U equivalents. That should be enough to let people forget about 5 front weps or 5 tac consoles.
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
I remember some guy around here asking for a 9 weapon slot T6 Scimitar
I also remember WAYYY back when that when more 5 TAC Escorts were possible due to Delta Rising and the T5U system, a number of JHAS players demanded the Bugship upgrade into 6 TAC Consoles
Not that hard if you understand how the rules for this game work instead of having unreasonable high expectations
Looks fine to me. I won't get that one probably, or at some far point in the future for some odd reason. But I really appreciate the makeover and Monarch skins
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Hah. The console is basically a modified OsS with a 2-minute CD rather than a continuous passive.
So it'd still be better to just replace it and the Cloak with PlasLeech if one has it and a crafted UR Conductive RCS, unless one prefers to try for a decloaking alpha-strike while missing with that lance.
its a galaxy, with +hangar and +1 tac console (compared fleet version to fleet version). and again: command ... command command command. i think its time for sth else now. cant see anymore command hybrid seats. command abilities are mostly un-usable. half of them just doesnt work. the rest is just a shieldleech and torpedo autofire. and its gets really boring to play every second ship with concentrate fire and overwhelm emmiters. i dont see what this ship brings into the game, we dont actually already have twice or tripple.
again a nice costume wasted to a boring layout.
if they at least would change "assault fleet"thing to be more like reinforcement squad. it would at least be a little fun to play with.
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The biggest plus for the defiant will without doubt be the visuals. Boff layout will be difficult since the phantom and pilot ships have strong intel and pilot seating thereby making it difficult to get something unique for a T6 Defiant.
The current defiant's boff layout is pretty bad and I'm thinking that the t6 version won't be very good either. That is if cryptic stays the course with it's T6 offerings of older T5 ships. The Hestia and Resolute both were left with gimped boff layouts. However, the Andromeda's was significantly improved... so who knows. Maybe defiant fans will get thrown a bone.
Stats should be revealed later today and I'm sure everyone is looking forward to that.
Ha ha - true enough. The T5 Galaxy had arguably the worst boff layout in the game.
As for the Yamato I'm wagering that the Lt tac seat becomes LtCmd. Alternatively, perhaps that Ensign Universal might be made into an Lt Universal for added flexibility. Those are my two best guesses.
But not many people can afford a new one these days. For these people Cryptic introduces lots and lots of alternatives without pissing off those who own/acquired the leeches. It's all an effort to stabilize the status quo, I think.
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If the con can only be used on the ships in this set I see no reason why the con cant be as good as the leech. Even if the con was as good as the leech the leech would still be better by default because it isnt restricted to specific ships
Now the Lt.Comm. Tac is a possibility.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Yes, but people like to stray from that, either because they don't see the pattern or they just want to embrace in wishful thinking
To be fair though, the LTC Tac on the Andromeda came completely out of nowhere. It should have gotten a LTC Sci and the Dreadnaught could now get a LTC Tac which would make more sense.
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Actually, I feel it kinda makes sense? The Galaxy class was refit during the Dominion War, mostly to give it more weapons.
The Lt.Cdr Tac seat could be a reflection of that.
That or to show that starfleet began to have their officers, or the officers themselves began to focus more on tactical practices making them more adapt at their use an the tactical systems of the starships. This would equally show a increase in the tactical proformance of a starcraft by more adept an trained officers in that station's useage, also it would easily be seen as better to train in tactial operations to better defend an fight during a war since losing means many lives lost even beyond the starcraft you are on.
I agree. That would make most sense while it would differentiate the two ships.
I'm not sure they're gonna want to make the Galaxy-X identical to the Galaxy. And I don't see the Galaxy-X getting a Lt.Comm. Sci. So maybe make the Ensign Uni a Lieutenant? Other than that, I ran out of probable ideas.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Just being realistic here, based on years of Galaxy class neglect by Cryptic..
Hell, when Profits Rising came out, I said that Cryptic should have attached the Defiant / Defiant-variant skins to the Phantom and watch the money roll in. Statistically, Phantom fixed every complaint leveled about the T5 Defiant. Built in cloaking device. More robust BOFF layout. Full Intel access while still maintaining the weapons and handling of the Defiant. It just needed the damn skins. Lots of people I recall sat on the fence about the Phantom. If it had Defiant skins, LOL, they would have jumped right off!
These days? It's just hard to top the Pilot Ships, regardless of faction.
Still, I'd expect the T6 Defiant to sell ridiculously well. Ships from the shows and movies are half the reason why we're Star Trek fans (at least for me).
Lt Tac seat becomes LtCmdr Tac/Pilot seat. Maybe Tac/Cmd.
I think I'm buying, regardless. I've yet to buy any C-Store ships for my non-Fed toons, and these ships look pretty good to me, so if I get the 3-pack, I basically get one for free...
Until you consider the 3-pack'll cost the same as 3 individually priced T-5 ships... Oh well...
I hope it only has a Lt. Tac seat. I love the insanity that caused on the forums last time the Gal-X got refurbished.
Imagine a Gorn Vesta, or an Orion FDC with an Eng/Tac layout... mmmm... I'm almost tempted to buy the Nausi ship just to bolster their sales figures, even if I won't use it on anyone. Except for the fact I have some semblance of fiscal sense, that is. Sure, I did that with the Mogh, but I also had a toon who ended up using it until the T6 Peghqu' dropped.
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I remember some guy around here asking for a 9 weapon slot T6 Scimitar
I also remember WAYYY back when that when more 5 TAC Escorts were possible due to Delta Rising and the T5U system, a number of JHAS players demanded the Bugship upgrade into 6 TAC Consoles
Not that hard if you understand how the rules for this game work instead of having unreasonable high expectations
Looks fine to me. I won't get that one probably, or at some far point in the future for some odd reason. But I really appreciate the makeover and Monarch skins
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So it'd still be better to just replace it and the Cloak with PlasLeech if one has it and a crafted UR Conductive RCS, unless one prefers to try for a decloaking alpha-strike while missing with that lance.
its a galaxy, with +hangar and +1 tac console (compared fleet version to fleet version). and again: command ... command command command. i think its time for sth else now. cant see anymore command hybrid seats. command abilities are mostly un-usable. half of them just doesnt work. the rest is just a shieldleech and torpedo autofire. and its gets really boring to play every second ship with concentrate fire and overwhelm emmiters. i dont see what this ship brings into the game, we dont actually already have twice or tripple.
again a nice costume wasted to a boring layout.
if they at least would change "assault fleet"thing to be more like reinforcement squad. it would at least be a little fun to play with.