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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    So what's the concensus on this ship? Any good?
    I am SO tempted to buy this purely based on the design like I did with the Hestia class. But if there's going to be fancy Oddy in the works, perhaps I'll hold off for a bit longer. I don't like Command specialisation buying this would really just for looks............hard decision to make.
  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    So what's the concensus on this ship? Any good?
    I am SO tempted to buy this purely based on the design like I did with the Hestia class. But if there's going to be fancy Oddy in the works, perhaps I'll hold off for a bit longer. I don't like Command specialisation buying this would really just for looks............hard decision to make.

    The new con isnt all that useful but the ship itself is a vast improvement over the original. That extra tac power really helps giving the ship a much needed boost in potential dps. the con not being that good isnt too big of a deal considering that once they work out the bug with the andromeda con you can just use that one instead

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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Messed with my Dreadnaught today and noticed with the remodels, the Phaser Lance was off.

    Told Cryptic, and they said it was "working as intentioned". So much for accuracy in fixing the model.

    Where did they say it was working as intended? do you have a link?

    It's was on Twitter. BTW, I paraphrashed the "Working". He basically laughed at the error and then said he won't work on it again. Guess we have to live with another buggy lance. Enjoy spending $50 on multiple bugs and errors.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    So what's the concensus on this ship? Any good?
    I am SO tempted to buy this purely based on the design like I did with the Hestia class. But if there's going to be fancy Oddy in the works, perhaps I'll hold off for a bit longer. I don't like Command specialisation buying this would really just for looks............hard decision to make.

    Visuals, the Galaxy-X model got the big improvements.

    Stats-wise, it depends on what you're after:

    If you're looking for the most powerful Fed Cruiser your money can buy, I'd say keep looking. Hello, Eclipse!

    If you're a frustrated T5 Galaxy-X user that is sick and tired of that Lt & Ens TAC station, this is for you, if you don't mind the T6 cost of entry.

    Not saying the ship is bad. Not saying it's the best Fed Cruiser, either. It's somewhere in the middle and still a capable ship.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Messed with my Dreadnaught today and noticed with the remodels, the Phaser Lance was off.

    Told Cryptic, and they said it was "working as intentioned". So much for accuracy in fixing the model.
    Where did they say it was working as intended? do you have a link?
    It's was on Twitter. BTW, I paraphrashed the "Working". He basically laughed at the error and then said he won't work on it again. Guess we have to live with another buggy lance. Enjoy spending $50 on multiple bugs and errors.
    Given that it's a minor, barely noticeable thing.... Yes, barely noticeable, YOU noticed because you were specifically looking for it.

    Yeah, it's not part of his work schedule, making new stuff takes precedence over endlessly tweaking old stuff to be flawless. And I use the term "flawless" loosely...
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Messed with my Dreadnaught today and noticed with the remodels, the Phaser Lance was off.

    Told Cryptic, and they said it was "working as intentioned". So much for accuracy in fixing the model.

    Where did they say it was working as intended? do you have a link?

    It's was on Twitter. BTW, I paraphrashed the "Working". He basically laughed at the error and then said he won't work on it again. Guess we have to live with another buggy lance. Enjoy spending $50 on multiple bugs and errors.

    I just took a close up look at this, I can't see where it's off centre, but your camera angle makes a massive difference, it may be an optical effect. The lighting is critical too, if it's in shadow on one side it does make it look like it's off centre.

    I was careful to get the lighting and camera correct for these two shots, I don't see anything off centre.

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    In his rant in a different thread he said that it was centered but "angled upward".
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    mmm that is pretty.... But yeah, while I can kinda see it... I also don't think the "error" is in any way important.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Compared to how off the alignment was in the old model, this looks amazing.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I agree it does look amazing. I didn't see where the gun was angled wrong at all, compared to the old one. Which you could see it clearly and not as detailed.

    Only error I see is the Venture Saucer. Under it the windows don't go all the way to the neck mount on one side. This was an error on the older ship, and they didn't fix it. But this goes on both Galaxy and Galaxy Dreadnought versions.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Messed with my Dreadnaught today and noticed with the remodels, the Phaser Lance was off.

    Told Cryptic, and they said it was "working as intentioned". So much for accuracy in fixing the model.

    Where did they say it was working as intended? do you have a link?

    It's was on Twitter. BTW, I paraphrashed the "Working". He basically laughed at the error and then said he won't work on it again. Guess we have to live with another buggy lance. Enjoy spending $50 on multiple bugs and errors.

    I just took a close up look at this, I can't see where it's off centre, but your camera angle makes a massive difference, it may be an optical effect. The lighting is critical too, if it's in shadow on one side it does make it look like it's off centre.

    I was careful to get the lighting and camera correct for these two shots, I don't see anything off centre.
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    Have you tried looking from the side?

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    Hmm, well I for one am not going to complain about it's epic looks, a lot of work went into this remodelling and it shows imo.

    Outside of the Venture's Lance being different than the others (actually I like it), I find nothing else wrong except an certain artist who gets upset at the slightest bit of criticism. :cookie:


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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    Wow...seriously the model looks amazing. I can't believe some of what I'm reading. At least this ship got a classic remodel.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I'm of the opinion that the angled part is basically a fin anyways and not the cannon itself. At any rate, I think you're being obsessively hyper-critical Azurian. This isn't "slight criticism". You're trying to say he did a half-baked job based on what amounts to a minor difference of opinion.

    I had a bit of fun kitbashing mine.
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    in a random fluke a guy with his made to look like the AGT version of the dread flew by as I was making the pic.
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  • gogereavergogereaver Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    can it saucer sep. thats the big thing for me.
  • wyatt#6729 wyatt Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    You know, if any of you guys have played Starfleet Command, there's already a Yamato Class Battleship in the game, so maybe-even though it's probably a little old-they could've put that version of the Yamato into the game and called the new dreadnought the Andromeda X Dreadnought. If you don't know about the original Yamato Class, look for it on Google Images.vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/6/6c/Federation_Battleship_F-BB.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100903174443
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Messed with my Dreadnaught today and noticed with the remodels, the Phaser Lance was off.

    Told Cryptic, and they said it was "working as intentioned". So much for accuracy in fixing the model.

    Where did they say it was working as intended? do you have a link?

    It's was on Twitter. BTW, I paraphrashed the "Working". He basically laughed at the error and then said he won't work on it again. Guess we have to live with another buggy lance. Enjoy spending $50 on multiple bugs and errors.

    I just took a close up look at this, I can't see where it's off centre, but your camera angle makes a massive difference, it may be an optical effect. The lighting is critical too, if it's in shadow on one side it does make it look like it's off centre.

    I was careful to get the lighting and camera correct for these two shots, I don't see anything off centre.
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    Have you tried looking from the side?

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    Hmm, well I for one am not going to complain about it's epic looks, a lot of work went into this remodelling and it shows imo.

    Outside of the Venture's Lance being different than the others (actually I like it), I find nothing else wrong except an certain artist who gets upset at the slightest bit of criticism. :cookie:


    That drawing you're using for reference isn't accurate to the screen-used Galaxy-X model. The Phaser Lance is smaller in the drawing. If we're going to contrast for accuracy, best use actual show screenshots or the models used during filming.

    The STO model is still off, but that drawing isn't any better. For reference is the actual "All Good Things" Enterprise studio model that was used for the episode.
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Galaxy_class_USS_Enterprise_future_variant_finished_studio_model,_sidel_view.jpg
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    Another cool little site showing more shots of the "All Good Things" Enterprise model and from the episode.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    I'm of the opinion that the angled part is basically a fin anyways and not the cannon itself. At any rate, I think you're being obsessively hyper-critical Azurian. This isn't "slight criticism". You're trying to say he did a half-baked job based on what amounts to a minor difference of opinion.

    I'm doing no different than those who pointed out the Lance being off-center with the old Dreadnought model. If people think that I'm wrong, then do tell me why I'm wrong.
    That drawing you're using for reference isn't accurate to the screen-used Galaxy-X model. The Phaser Lance is smaller in the drawing. If we're going to contrast for accuracy, best use actual show screenshots or the models used during filming.

    The STO model is still off, but that drawing isn't any better. For reference is the actual "All Good Things" Enterprise studio model that was used for the episode.
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Galaxy_class_USS_Enterprise_future_variant_finished_studio_model,_sidel_view.jpg
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    Another cool little site showing more shots of the "All Good Things" Enterprise model and from the episode.

    Funny I originally used that same picture but opted for a more clear drawing from Ex Astris. I will shortly correct that error. But anyhow, you said it yourself that the STO Model is indeed off. And that I thank you for confirming.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    That drawing you're using for reference isn't accurate to the screen-used Galaxy-X model. The Phaser Lance is smaller in the drawing. If we're going to contrast for accuracy, best use actual show screenshots or the models used during filming.

    The STO model is still off, but that drawing isn't any better. For reference is the actual "All Good Things" Enterprise studio model that was used for the episode.
    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Galaxy_class_USS_Enterprise_future_variant_finished_studio_model,_sidel_view.jpg
    nBo336y.jpg

    Another cool little site showing more shots of the "All Good Things" Enterprise model and from the episode.
    This would be a better comparison if the two models were rotated to the same angle. The STO model is positioned with the camera looking up at it.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Shame it fires the lance from it's deflector lol

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Shame it fires the lance from it's deflector lol

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    This means it's using the "anti-Borg" deflector modification from Best of Both Worlds!


    I was expecting that to come on a console eventually...​​
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    This means it's using the "anti-Borg" deflector modification from Best of Both Worlds!


    I was expecting that to come on a console eventually...

    That thing's the MACO set bonus I think. Firing the lance from the deflector means the lance asset is completely unused - it isn't even a weapon hardpoint.​​
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I love the customization on this. She is the one ship in the game I cannot permit myself to add color and patterns too.

    However I do like the ability to streamline her down, using the Galaxy-B Saucer and nacelles. Just leaving the Cannon and the winglets on the pylons there, and she is a beauty.

    It's so funny my Fed main uses the Yamato & Nebula now as her main ships, but never been a fan of the standard Galaxy.

    My favorite standard Cruiser is still the Ambassador, such a shame the Andromeda didn't get a LTC Sci, but then it would be a Samsar with a Federation Hull, which is more or less what I want.

    Oh well, loving the Yamato, hoping the Nebula gets some love soonish.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Well, well, well. Look what got tweaked...
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    Nothing to do with accuracy. It's just a change to the model. At least that's what I understood from the post.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Well, well, well. Look what got tweaked...

    Nice but I'm concerned about the curving of the lance, I never noticed it curving, I hope that doesn't mean they have reduced it's accuracy?

    Look at my reply that was quoted at the top of the page. It has the ingame Gal-X model with the actual studio model used in TNG. It's about how the Lance "ridge" follows the saucer section compared to the studio model. But the patch is also going to fix the hardpoint of the Phaser Lance instead of firing out of the deflector.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    Well, well, well. Look what got tweaked...

    Giggidy! :smiley:

    Cat, Thanks! :sunglasses:

    Hawkman... :wink:
    Well, well, well. Look what got tweaked...

    Nice but I'm concerned about the curving of the lance, I never noticed it curving, I hope that doesn't mean they have reduced it's accuracy?

    Yeah, nothing done the power itself. They just adjusting the model so it's on straight and the beam fires from the lance aperature.
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