guys... seriously... even protogoth has said 'let people have the IRW' when SHE is willing to concede on it, why cant we all just say 'let it be done' and move on?
For reals, LOL.
Besides, one of the main reasons why I made this post in the first place was to simply see something added to the Romulan side, even if it is tiny/insignificant... because, let's be honest, we get the shaft more often than not on so many things.
Plus, no matter what your particular head canon says... whether you think the RSE is dead/evil, or you think the prefix should be there for RP purposes... there still seems to be no rhyme or reason to the lack of the prefix on some ships... which, to me, speaks to simple neglect... which should surprise no one who plays this faction, LOL.
Well, who's fault is it that its a $30 paperweight? Cryptic, who made and sold it? Or the person who bought it and refuses to use it out of a mulish need for everything to be exactly how he wants it?
Split it 50/50 and say it's a lack of clearer disclaimers within? It's not a matter of not getting what I want, it's a matter of not being a hypocrite. I'm not going to take a stand against using the prefix on my ships here in the forum just to act differently in the game.
It's not my fault that the D'Deridex skin was available with the IRW prefix from commander through T5U. But no disclaimer was made and the money is split. I'll share half the fault and still ask that the prefix be opened up for this ship. It never hurts to ask, the worst they can say is no.
Plus, no matter what your particular head canon says... whether you think the RSE is dead/evil, or you think the prefix should be there for RP purposes... there still seems to be no rhyme or reason to the lack of the prefix on some ships...
The reason is the warbird is Republic-built, by in-game lore.
Your own head canon is where the split-off point is.
Yes, which also includes a skin for a D'deridex, which is a separate ship. If you read the C-store description, it says nothing about T6 D'deridex'es. Besides, there are other ships, both T6 and below that can use the prefix and are RR ships.
The extra boff slot is probably the biggest bonus. But in all honestly it seems you're another player who's up in arms because you fell for the forum-overreaction about T5-U ships being made obsolete by a T6.
You say overreaction. I say it's completely justified. Players wanted to be able to play their favorite ships at endgame. Cryptic gave them upgrade tokens to upgrade them to 'T6 capabilities' Folks pointed out that these T5u ships still were still disadvantaged compared to T6 ships. This is still the case. And at $30 a pop to get a end-game D'deridex, plus a potential substantial investment for the T5 variant, T5u variant, and Fleetgrade....and it should be pretty easy to see how such could be seen as Cryptic asking for a little bit too much.
I agree - an Imperial warbird should be able to use IRW. The new D'khellra (which even with the D'D skin is still a D'khellra) isn't an Imperial warbird.
Warbirds like the Dhelan, Mogai, and so on are Imperial designs, and many were brought over with their commanders and crew who defected from the RSE and Tal'Shiar. But it makes sense that those have IRW options because they're Imperial designs. The D'khellra, however, is not an Imperial design.
It comes with a D'deridex skin, which-as you pointed out-is an Imperial design. The name of the ship is completely irrelevant when a Cheyenne can become a Constellation with some part swaps. The fact that it comes with a D'deridex skin is the important thing-because "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" represents two different ships.
The RSE is barely able to support itself at this point, let alone design new warbirds. The new craft are made by the Republic. If you want the new warbirds, you need to join the Romulan state that is actually progressing itself.
The Romulan Republic was pumping out Ha'pex's with a barely functional government. This sort of thing is no barrier in STO. For a on-screen comparison, the Obsidian Order was able to produce an entire armada of Keldon's in secret.
That's it. Only two of them have the IRW. The T6 Intel Birds. the first made. Its still up in hte air as to whether this was a mistake or not, as the devs are silent on it. And the point is that it's NOT an Imperial Warbird. Its a Republic warbird based of the older design. Its like claiming that a Canadian variant on hte Leopard Tank should have German markings available because the original design is German.
Completely ignoring every other precedent set in this game by prefix's, I see. :rolleyes:.
Nothing is stopping a Romulan player from flying a ship with a USS, IKS, SS, etc (using 'German' prefixes going by your example)prefix on our other ships. Which makes about as much sense if we are supposed to be playing Republic Romulans. Prefixes are there to facilitate RP. That's basically the entire purposes of having multiple prefixes to choose from.
Yes, there are other Republic-only ships that can use the IRW prefix. Dhael comes immediately to mind.
Nothing is stopping a Romulan player from flying a ship with a USS, IKS, SS, etc (using 'German' prefixes going by your example)prefix on our other ships. Which makes about as much sense if we are supposed to be playing Republic Romulans. Prefixes are there to facilitate RP. That's basically the entire purposes of having multiple prefixes to choose from.
Yes, there are other Republic-only ships that can use the IRW prefix. Dhael comes immediately to mind.
I absolutely despise the USS/IKS option, and want that rid of. And the Dhelan/Dhael isn't Republic only. It was designed and frist built in the 2290's. The Remans at Crateris have one with an IRW prefix.
You say overreaction. I say it's completely justified. Players wanted to be able to play their favorite ships at endgame. Cryptic gave them upgrade tokens to upgrade them to 'T6 capabilities' Folks pointed out that these T5u ships still were still disadvantaged compared to T6 ships. This is still the case. And at $30 a pop to get a end-game D'deridex, plus a potential substantial investment for the T5 variant, T5u variant, and Fleetgrade....and it should be pretty easy to see how such could be seen as Cryptic asking for a little bit too much.
T5-U is plenty viable at end-game. If you can't use a T5-U at end-game, that's a problem with your playstyle, not the game mechanics.
It comes with a D'deridex skin, which-as you pointed out-is an Imperial design. The name of the ship is completely irrelevant when a Cheyenne can become a Constellation with some part swaps. The fact that it comes with a D'deridex skin is the important thing-because "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" represents two different ships.
Even so, these are Republic-built D'deridex warbirds, with the latest in 2410 technology. These are not the same ships.
I absolutely despise the USS/IKS option, and want that rid of.
I don't, because it allows the inverse of me having an NX class ship named the "R.R.W. t'Prell." And a Constitution named the "R.R.W. Spock" (or something like that, might be "Spahkh," the Vulcan spelling of the name, or might be "Ambassador Spahkh" or "Ambassador Spock," etc).
T5-U is plenty viable at end-game. If you can't use a T5-U at end-game, that's a problem with your playstyle, not the game mechanics.
Yes, viable, but not at all optimal. And it means missing out on all the new boff abilities cryptic is rolling out each month nowadays.
As someone who upgraded their D'deridex to T5u Fleetgrade, I can tell you I most certainly did not do that investment to remain 'viable'. Being told that getting the T5 version, the fleet upgrade, the T5u upgrade, before being told that it's a dead end progression path and that the 'real' endgame D'deridex will require another $30 is not a good feeling.
Even so, these are Republic-built D'deridex warbirds, with the latest in 2410 technology. These are not the same ships.
Except that nowhere in the description does it say anything about them being Republic-built D'deridex ships. The D'Khellra is a exclusively Republic-built ship, that happens to be compatible with D'deridex parts in the ship creator, allowing you to make a D'deridex with D'Khellra parts.
The "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" description is rather mean meaningless, as "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" can be either a D'deridex, D'Khellra, or D'ridthau. (or a kitbash)
In much the same way that a "Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit" can be either a Stargazer, Dakota, Cheyenne, or Constellation. If you are flying a version that looks like a Constellation, you are flying a Constellation, not a ship that is a literally "Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit" class. Can't exactly imagine someone like Riker saying that. to refer to a Constellation (albeit a remarkably upgraded one in the case of a Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit)
I don't, because it allows the inverse of me having an NX class ship named the "R.R.W. t'Prell." And a Constitution named the "R.R.W. Spock" (or something like that, might be "Spahkh," the Vulcan spelling of the name, or might be "Ambassador Spahkh" or "Ambassador Spock," etc).
I like it too! (hey, we agree on something)
Personally, I think the best prefix is the 'none' one, because it means you can have whatever one you want by just setting the prefix to 'none' and typing out the prefix in the name box, followed by a space, and the name of your ship. This way I was able to get a Tal'Kyr Support craft for my Vulcan named 'I.R.W. Tomalak'
The reason is the warbird is Republic-built, by in-game lore.
Your own head canon is where the split-off point is.
Hardly. You can make that claim the day Cryptic has gone through every Romulan ship in the game, read the "lore" associated with each vessel, and removed the prefix from those ships... or, shoot, removed the prefix altogether from all ships outside of the lockbox ships (again, at least in this case, there's clearly-defined restrictions on the prefix).
You only make the lore claim because your "position" has "the upper hand." I simply don't see it your way.
Look, your position isn't as strong as you think it is, because I can still fly Intel ships with the IRW prefix... and, we're talking about the company that still doesn't have a security officer on New Romulus, or still hasn't developed an Academy for the Romulans, or continues to make Starfleet and KDF variants of some reputation sets (but NO Romulan variants)...
You really want to tell me that simple neglect isn't the more sensible reason for the prefix's absence, LOL?
I'm just going to throw this out here. It doesn't matter how you headcanon your ship's origin. It doesn't matter who built the ship. Every Romulan ship should have IRW available for the simple reason that by the official storyline, your ship will at one point join the Tal Shiar. It's right there in the story arc, where you get to toast some Epohh.
That's gameplay and story segregation. In an ideal game your ship would have been given an altered transponder and a new paint job, and you would've been disguised, otherwise you would've been recognized immediately. (Remember, by that point your character has met Sela in person during the Khitomer conference, and you've fought Hakeev three times.)
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
That's gameplay and story segregation. In an ideal game your ship would have been given an altered transponder and a new paint job, and you would've been disguised, otherwise you would've been recognized immediately. (Remember, by that point your character has met Sela in person during the Khitomer conference, and you've fought Hakeev three times.)
I always found that funny. Here I was, one of three people next to D'Tan when she showed up, and D'Tan even drew attention to me by asking that Tovan and I bugger off while he and Temer handled Sela. Yet a month or two later, her I am, and she's shaking my hand and asking me to be her agent in hte Tal Shiar....and not recognizing me. Pretty sloppy for someone who is supposed to be a schemer.
I always found that funny. Here I was, one of three people next to D'Tan when she showed up, and D'Tan even drew attention to me by asking that Tovan and I bugger off while he and Temer handled Sela. Yet a month or two later, her I am, and she's shaking my hand and asking me to be her agent in hte Tal Shiar....and not recognizing me. Pretty sloppy for someone who is supposed to be a schemer.
It gets even weirder if you are flying around in something like a romulan intel ship or a federation/klingon ship.
Bolian first officer, in Starfleet Uniform: "The U.S.S. Vulcan would like permission to dock"
That's gameplay and story segregation. In an ideal game your ship would have been given an altered transponder and a new paint job, and you would've been disguised, otherwise you would've been recognized immediately. (Remember, by that point your character has met Sela in person during the Khitomer conference, and you've fought Hakeev three times.)
Well if you're going by the in-game lore route to justify NOT having I.R.W. he raises a valid point. Gameplay and story segregation isn't the hole in it, the hole in his point lies with the fact that all ships available at that point in time can already use I.R.W. ( assuming you don't skip or gain levels outside the story missions of course).
I always found that funny. Here I was, one of three people next to D'Tan when she showed up, and D'Tan even drew attention to me by asking that Tovan and I bugger off while he and Temer handled Sela. Yet a month or two later, her I am, and she's shaking my hand and asking me to be her agent in hte Tal Shiar....and not recognizing me. Pretty sloppy for someone who is supposed to be a schemer.
sela really doesn't strike me as the type to take close notice of the appearance of some nameless nobody 'terrorist'
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I always found that funny. Here I was, one of three people next to D'Tan when she showed up, and D'Tan even drew attention to me by asking that Tovan and I bugger off while he and Temer handled Sela. Yet a month or two later, her I am, and she's shaking my hand and asking me to be her agent in hte Tal Shiar....and not recognizing me. Pretty sloppy for someone who is supposed to be a schemer.
In fairness to Sela, she may be a schemer but she's never exactly been an effective schemer. All her schemes tend to be undermined more by her own incompetence than by the heroes.
Well if you're going by the in-game lore route to justify NOT having I.R.W. he raises a valid point. Gameplay and story segregation isn't the hole in it, the hole in his point lies with the fact that all ships available at that point in time can already use I.R.W. ( assuming you don't skip or gain levels outside the story missions of course).
Again, I feel this is Cryptic being sloppy and not thinking things through, in much the same way they let KDF-Roms commit the same war crimes with their doff assignments as the KDF does. As I said earlier, if they were going to have us all be playing Republic Romulans in-story, the IRW prefix should not have been available for any ship.
You can sort of handwave getting access to USS and IKS on T1 through T4 allied faction ships as the player serving as an exchange officer, but in those cases RRW shouldn't be available either.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
If you can handwave a Starfleet prefix you can certainly handwave an I.R.W. one being "unlocked" for the Tal Shiar missions, similar to how we unlock the Tal Shiar costumes.
If you can handwave a Starfleet prefix you can certainly handwave an I.R.W. one being "unlocked" for the Tal Shiar missions, similar to how we unlock the Tal Shiar costumes.
I don't. I demand the immediate removal of Starfleet and Klingon prefix options. The are absolutely stupid, and have everything to do with Cryptic considering Romulans to be members of Starfleet or the KDF, and not Romulans.
I don't. I demand the immediate removal of Starfleet and Klingon prefix options. The are absolutely stupid, and have everything to do with Cryptic considering Romulans to be members of Starfleet or the KDF, and not Romulans.
Starfleet, maybe. But Rumors of Klingon Intelligence are just that. Rumors.
I do agree that USS and IKS should not be options for Romulan ships. But then I would insist on any Fed or KDF ships bought by Romulans being able to use RRW (on this one, I am less inclined to support IRW, but I wouldn't fight it, either, for the same reasons I gave earlier; viz., the possibility of capture is probably as unlikely as it would be for RRW T6 ships, but most of the Fed and KDF designs which are T1-4 have been around long enough that they might have been taken when the RSE still had Tal'Diann personnel among their military forces -- heheh).
And K'men is under Vishka's influence, so that's all good, but after House Pegh, I had to make a filk song based on "Brave Sir Robin" from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, along the lines of ... well, here:
Bravely bold brave House Pegh
Rode forth from First City.
They were not afraid to die,
Oh, brave, bold, brave House Pegh.
Brave bold House Pegh ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared its ugly head
They bravely turned their tails and fled.
Yes, bold brave House Pegh turned about
And gallantly they chickened out.
Bravely taking to their feet
They beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the braaaaaave, bold House Pegh!
I mean, seriously. The Iconian is weakened, missing at least half of an arm. This is the time to finish her off, not run away with tails tucked between legs!
And for the record, this, coupled with being called a p'taQ and not kicking someone in the stomach for the remark, are the only "problems" I have with that mission.
And K'men is under Vishka's influence, so that's all good,
My joke and your headcanon aside, the Klingons may be Blood Knights, but they are not stupid. Everyone is well aware of what the Orions can do, and you don't get to be an interstellar empire by blithely ignoring the consequences of allying with the Orions without taking steps to safeguard against their mercenary nature, and most famous attribute. K'men especially, being the head of an Intelligence organization, is unlikely to talk for such a simple trick as "harmless Orion slave girls".
My joke and your headcanon aside, the Klingons may be Blood Knights, but they are not stupid. Everyone is well aware of what the Orions can do, and you don't get to be an interstellar empire by blithely ignoring the consequences of allying with the Orions without taking steps to safeguard against their mercenary nature, and most famous attribute. K'men especially, being the head of an Intelligence organization, is unlikely to talk for such a simple trick as "harmless Orion slave girls".
Pfft. Everyone seemed to have forgotten what Orion women could do between ENT and TOS, so I have my doubts Starfleet didn't bungle the records and lose that bit (or maybe Orion women came to ESD and did their thing till they had sufficient access to erase that info).
Pfft. Everyone seemed to have forgotten what Orion women could do between ENT and TOS, so I have my doubts Starfleet didn't bungle the records and lose that bit (or maybe Orion women came to ESD and did their thing till they had sufficient access to erase that info).
Or, alternately, everyone knows, because at no point in any series after Enterprise do we see Orions using their phremones on people. The only time one was, Vina wasn't even real Orion. Just a Talosian illusion made for Captain Pike
Or, alternately, everyone knows, because at no point in any series after Enterprise do we see Orions using their phremones on people. The only time one was, Vinaz wasn't even real Orion. Just a Talosian illusion made for Captain Pike
Having just finished the first "Rise of the Federation" book, what about the comment about "elite" lineages? Seemed to bridge nicely between the ruling women and the slave women.
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For reals, LOL.
Besides, one of the main reasons why I made this post in the first place was to simply see something added to the Romulan side, even if it is tiny/insignificant... because, let's be honest, we get the shaft more often than not on so many things.
Plus, no matter what your particular head canon says... whether you think the RSE is dead/evil, or you think the prefix should be there for RP purposes... there still seems to be no rhyme or reason to the lack of the prefix on some ships... which, to me, speaks to simple neglect... which should surprise no one who plays this faction, LOL.
Split it 50/50 and say it's a lack of clearer disclaimers within? It's not a matter of not getting what I want, it's a matter of not being a hypocrite. I'm not going to take a stand against using the prefix on my ships here in the forum just to act differently in the game.
It's not my fault that the D'Deridex skin was available with the IRW prefix from commander through T5U. But no disclaimer was made and the money is split. I'll share half the fault and still ask that the prefix be opened up for this ship. It never hurts to ask, the worst they can say is no.
The reason is the warbird is Republic-built, by in-game lore.
Your own head canon is where the split-off point is.
Yes, which also includes a skin for a D'deridex, which is a separate ship. If you read the C-store description, it says nothing about T6 D'deridex'es. Besides, there are other ships, both T6 and below that can use the prefix and are RR ships.
You say overreaction. I say it's completely justified. Players wanted to be able to play their favorite ships at endgame. Cryptic gave them upgrade tokens to upgrade them to 'T6 capabilities' Folks pointed out that these T5u ships still were still disadvantaged compared to T6 ships. This is still the case. And at $30 a pop to get a end-game D'deridex, plus a potential substantial investment for the T5 variant, T5u variant, and Fleetgrade....and it should be pretty easy to see how such could be seen as Cryptic asking for a little bit too much.
It comes with a D'deridex skin, which-as you pointed out-is an Imperial design. The name of the ship is completely irrelevant when a Cheyenne can become a Constellation with some part swaps. The fact that it comes with a D'deridex skin is the important thing-because "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" represents two different ships.
The Romulan Republic was pumping out Ha'pex's with a barely functional government. This sort of thing is no barrier in STO. For a on-screen comparison, the Obsidian Order was able to produce an entire armada of Keldon's in secret.
Completely ignoring every other precedent set in this game by prefix's, I see. :rolleyes:.
Nothing is stopping a Romulan player from flying a ship with a USS, IKS, SS, etc (using 'German' prefixes going by your example)prefix on our other ships. Which makes about as much sense if we are supposed to be playing Republic Romulans. Prefixes are there to facilitate RP. That's basically the entire purposes of having multiple prefixes to choose from.
Yes, there are other Republic-only ships that can use the IRW prefix. Dhael comes immediately to mind.
I absolutely despise the USS/IKS option, and want that rid of. And the Dhelan/Dhael isn't Republic only. It was designed and frist built in the 2290's. The Remans at Crateris have one with an IRW prefix.
T5-U is plenty viable at end-game. If you can't use a T5-U at end-game, that's a problem with your playstyle, not the game mechanics.
Even so, these are Republic-built D'deridex warbirds, with the latest in 2410 technology. These are not the same ships.
I don't, because it allows the inverse of me having an NX class ship named the "R.R.W. t'Prell." And a Constitution named the "R.R.W. Spock" (or something like that, might be "Spahkh," the Vulcan spelling of the name, or might be "Ambassador Spahkh" or "Ambassador Spock," etc).
Yes, viable, but not at all optimal. And it means missing out on all the new boff abilities cryptic is rolling out each month nowadays.
As someone who upgraded their D'deridex to T5u Fleetgrade, I can tell you I most certainly did not do that investment to remain 'viable'. Being told that getting the T5 version, the fleet upgrade, the T5u upgrade, before being told that it's a dead end progression path and that the 'real' endgame D'deridex will require another $30 is not a good feeling.
Except that nowhere in the description does it say anything about them being Republic-built D'deridex ships. The D'Khellra is a exclusively Republic-built ship, that happens to be compatible with D'deridex parts in the ship creator, allowing you to make a D'deridex with D'Khellra parts.
The "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" description is rather mean meaningless, as "D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser" can be either a D'deridex, D'Khellra, or D'ridthau. (or a kitbash)
In much the same way that a "Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit" can be either a Stargazer, Dakota, Cheyenne, or Constellation. If you are flying a version that looks like a Constellation, you are flying a Constellation, not a ship that is a literally "Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit" class. Can't exactly imagine someone like Riker saying that. to refer to a Constellation (albeit a remarkably upgraded one in the case of a Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit)
I like it too! (hey, we agree on something)
Personally, I think the best prefix is the 'none' one, because it means you can have whatever one you want by just setting the prefix to 'none' and typing out the prefix in the name box, followed by a space, and the name of your ship. This way I was able to get a Tal'Kyr Support craft for my Vulcan named 'I.R.W. Tomalak'
Game of Raptors
Hardly.
You only make the lore claim because your "position" has "the upper hand." I simply don't see it your way.
Look, your position isn't as strong as you think it is, because I can still fly Intel ships with the IRW prefix... and, we're talking about the company that still doesn't have a security officer on New Romulus, or still hasn't developed an Academy for the Romulans, or continues to make Starfleet and KDF variants of some reputation sets (but NO Romulan variants)...
You really want to tell me that simple neglect isn't the more sensible reason for the prefix's absence, LOL?
Indeed! People are quite passionate about this topic, and it's clearly not one-sided.
And, here I thought this was just another example of the RR faction getting screwed...!
It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
That's gameplay and story segregation. In an ideal game your ship would have been given an altered transponder and a new paint job, and you would've been disguised, otherwise you would've been recognized immediately. (Remember, by that point your character has met Sela in person during the Khitomer conference, and you've fought Hakeev three times.)
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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I always found that funny. Here I was, one of three people next to D'Tan when she showed up, and D'Tan even drew attention to me by asking that Tovan and I bugger off while he and Temer handled Sela. Yet a month or two later, her I am, and she's shaking my hand and asking me to be her agent in hte Tal Shiar....and not recognizing me. Pretty sloppy for someone who is supposed to be a schemer.
Bolian first officer, in Starfleet Uniform: "The U.S.S. Vulcan would like permission to dock"
Tal Shiar Captain "seems legitimate"
Well if you're going by the in-game lore route to justify NOT having I.R.W. he raises a valid point. Gameplay and story segregation isn't the hole in it, the hole in his point lies with the fact that all ships available at that point in time can already use I.R.W. ( assuming you don't skip or gain levels outside the story missions of course).
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
ROFLMAO
Again, I feel this is Cryptic being sloppy and not thinking things through, in much the same way they let KDF-Roms commit the same war crimes with their doff assignments as the KDF does. As I said earlier, if they were going to have us all be playing Republic Romulans in-story, the IRW prefix should not have been available for any ship.
You can sort of handwave getting access to USS and IKS on T1 through T4 allied faction ships as the player serving as an exchange officer, but in those cases RRW shouldn't be available either.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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I don't. I demand the immediate removal of Starfleet and Klingon prefix options. The are absolutely stupid, and have everything to do with Cryptic considering Romulans to be members of Starfleet or the KDF, and not Romulans.
I think everyone can agree on that.
Actually, I want to keep I.K.S. because the Klingon Empire could have stolen the-
I KID I KID!
Starfleet, maybe. But Rumors of Klingon Intelligence are just that. Rumors.
I do agree that USS and IKS should not be options for Romulan ships. But then I would insist on any Fed or KDF ships bought by Romulans being able to use RRW (on this one, I am less inclined to support IRW, but I wouldn't fight it, either, for the same reasons I gave earlier; viz., the possibility of capture is probably as unlikely as it would be for RRW T6 ships, but most of the Fed and KDF designs which are T1-4 have been around long enough that they might have been taken when the RSE still had Tal'Diann personnel among their military forces -- heheh).
And K'men is under Vishka's influence, so that's all good, but after House Pegh, I had to make a filk song based on "Brave Sir Robin" from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, along the lines of ... well, here:
Bravely bold brave House Pegh
Rode forth from First City.
They were not afraid to die,
Oh, brave, bold, brave House Pegh.
Brave bold House Pegh ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared its ugly head
They bravely turned their tails and fled.
Yes, bold brave House Pegh turned about
And gallantly they chickened out.
Bravely taking to their feet
They beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the braaaaaave, bold House Pegh!
I mean, seriously. The Iconian is weakened, missing at least half of an arm. This is the time to finish her off, not run away with tails tucked between legs!
And for the record, this, coupled with being called a p'taQ and not kicking someone in the stomach for the remark, are the only "problems" I have with that mission.
My joke and your headcanon aside, the Klingons may be Blood Knights, but they are not stupid. Everyone is well aware of what the Orions can do, and you don't get to be an interstellar empire by blithely ignoring the consequences of allying with the Orions without taking steps to safeguard against their mercenary nature, and most famous attribute. K'men especially, being the head of an Intelligence organization, is unlikely to talk for such a simple trick as "harmless Orion slave girls".
Pfft. Everyone seemed to have forgotten what Orion women could do between ENT and TOS, so I have my doubts Starfleet didn't bungle the records and lose that bit (or maybe Orion women came to ESD and did their thing till they had sufficient access to erase that info).
Or, alternately, everyone knows, because at no point in any series after Enterprise do we see Orions using their phremones on people. The only time one was, Vina wasn't even real Orion. Just a Talosian illusion made for Captain Pike
Having just finished the first "Rise of the Federation" book, what about the comment about "elite" lineages? Seemed to bridge nicely between the ruling women and the slave women.