I may be interested in getting the Fed Pilot ship for my Fed tactical; whom I usually keep in escort-like vessels. I've gone from the Tempest, to the Phantom, to the Aquarius. The pilot ship may be next, considering that's where I invested my spec points on that character.
I'm indifferent to the Klingon ship. As for the Romulan one, I'm not seeing much appeal in it either... it does look vulture-like in my eyes (I am willing to wait and see what the other variants look like before deciding I want nothing to do with it).
After another 5-7 new Specializations and the market sufficiently saturated and T6 versions of the most popular ships made (including a T6 Sovereign; because they'd never do a T5U.5 Upgrade of an Upgrade).
Then they'll milk you dry off allowing upgrading of existing Hybrid seats on non-Specialized ships (aka everything EXCEPT ships with Specialist abilities and Cmdr Hybrid seats) to use another Specialization.
1 Token to add an alternate Specialization to an EXISTING Hybrid seat on any ship.
So 1 Token to turn the Lt.Cmdr. Sci/Intel seat on a Sheshar to LtCmdr. Sci/Intel/Pilot. Another token to make it Sci/Intel/Pilot/Command.
No honestly...this makes me laugh so hard, so no other ship
A has a helmsman
B cant rotate its axis it prevent the shields being hit from top to dorsal
C cant go reverse....bodly going forward because.....
D cant do a quick burst forward akin more like a true ramming speed
At the speeds these likely can. No.
As we've seen on the shows, the big ships can do so, but are huge molasses slow maneuvers.
Fix the lag. Fix the lag. Fix the lag. Fix the lag.
Given your sig, surely you remember ESD after the anniversary dropped...how it took half an hour to walk from beam-in to the exchange. I'll grant that Season 10 is a bit worse for queued events, but most other places in the game are good. As folks have said above, the people qualified to work on the issue already are, and if there were a silver bullet, we would already have it.
I don't think they learn from failures. They just keep trying the same thing in order to try and get a different result. What is that the definition of.....
As long as people keep buying them enough to make it profitable, they'll keep cranking them out like clockwork.
As you can tell by some of the people in this thread alone, there are very willing customers for this new gimmick.
When they stop making money off of it, they'll change their tune. I may not like it, but I can't say this is a failure on their part if it's keeping the bills paid. Which, evidenced by the last bundles -- it most certainly is.
That fed ship looks like the ugly love child of a Defiant and a Peregrine Fighter with rebellious nose piercings.
Aye...is it just me, or is the npc version (Paris's ship) preferable to that picture? 3-pack might almost be worth it to get rid of the piercings :rolleyes:
Aye...is it just me, or is the npc version (Paris's ship) preferable to that picture? 3-pack might almost be worth it to get rid of the piercings :rolleyes:
Different folks like different things...personally I'm not a fan of the Mercury, but the one in the blog looked pretty cool.
Part of how they can provide customization options like that...sell them via 3packs.
So you want them to fire artists and hire more systems programmers? I am sure Tacofangs will appreciate your lovely attitude towards his job and the need for his skillset.
i was simply pointing out what others are alluding to when they say 'work on bugs instead'.
sentiment has nothing much to do with it, as the 18 sacked cryptic employees would surely testify to.
Cool... I'd love to get those on my new Delta char... where do I claim those in game at now?
Exactly the same place as all free level 41+ ships since forever: event reputation during the event. Your delta recruit will have the chance to get one soon when the Risa event comes up. This is absolutely no different than a character you might have made in April of 2013 or April of 2014.
For the record, I do wish the delta recruit event had been concurrent with Risa, I think it would have been a wonderful synergy.
I'm very disappointed that all pilot ships are commander tac/pilot. If you are giving us three each faction in the bundle they should have been a commander tac/pilot (escort), a comander engineering/pilot (cruiser), and a commander science/Pilot (science ship). Where is the Bern that Tom Paris commanded? Surely that was a science or cruiser version of a piloting ship and not another escort...
Why can intell ships be every kind but not pilot ships?
Get on with the part where we can upgrade our T5U's and T6's to have dual stations of our own choosing!!!
:cool:
From what I saw, it's a totes legit barrel roll to the side.
I have since educated myself on the proper terminology of an aileron roll vs a barrel roll. Seeing as there's no change in altitude, it would be more classified as an aileron roll.
I will not be buying these ships, they are nice and it is decent to have new mechanics for them, but I am still going to rock most of my T5U ships and Delta Ships.
For me the problem exists in the frequency of the releases.
The price one must pay every three months for having a new play-style to try out is simply un-affordable to me.
I prefer to spend my budget on you know, new games and such and am happy to run with what I have got and purchase something new every year or so.
Also this way, I will have a lot more choice to go for as many more three month packs will be released by the look of it, and I will then know which turn out to be duds!
Traditional skills pretty much outclass almost all of the new skills introduced so far, especially for tactical!
Rolling all over the place is just not my play-style either so meh on that for me!
However, if they were to release a Carrier Spec 9 pack with carrier commands, I would most likely buy that!
9 pack, and from the looks, all escort ships, that is a lot of escort... Well I will have to wait and see on the stats and traits I guess, but I suspect that like the command ships I will want one of each and there is no discount for that.
I guess it makes sense, while a "the good ship from each faction" bundle, while it would sell well, wouldn't make up for no one (well except the got to buy 'em all type) buying the runt of each set.
I have since educated myself on the proper terminology of an aileron roll vs a barrel roll. Seeing as there's no change in altitude, it would be more classified as an aileron roll.
When you add a Typhoon Battleship T6 and a Kanzo Carrier T6, I will throw my bank account at you Cryptic. Until then, I spend my money on other MMOs which actually add items I love and want to buy, thank you.
I would love to have a retrain ability. I've poured all my points into the Command only to have the Pilot Tree be added... and no way to move them around.
Balance request: Change 'immunity period' to 'damage reduction period'- I get that you guys are running out of ideas and are defaulting to 'damage immunity' for everything, but it'd really be nice if these maneuvers didn't make you totally immune to damage when there are so many other sources of total immunity. 50% damage reduction (reducing damage by half) while maneuvering should be plenty, without making you totally immune while maneuvering, and retains Rock and Roll as a special maneuver since it has full damage immunity.
I do not mind to pay for a new Ship as Long as it is worth to spend.
What i am not happy about is the fact with all those 3/9 pack nonesense.
Those arbitrary consol sets are more often then not just pure eyewash artificaly Limits the available consol Slots for those ships resulting in unbalanced and more often then not underperforming Ships.
Throwing buyers remorse ontop in case of the command ship bundle as i realiesed that my Delta recruit did not even had the Option to get the final consol of the set anyway as there happens to be no Samsar to pickup anymore.
So please Cryptic get off this 3 Ship a Set bundle and give us proper Ships that sell themself because of the Appeal in visuals and BOff and consol Layout.
I can understand that you want to maximise Profit to workcost still the blatant atempt to double tipp premium charges for those triple ship packs is way to obvious so what to say i pass those again to help you in improving your buisness decisions and get back to a more reasonable Price and product policy.
Thank you Cryptic for your goodwork but don't treat all your customers as mindless Zombies you think you could drain the last drop off blood from it only hurts you in the Long run.
Brings up a good question. The blog does not mention the mastery packages in the list of differences.. Will they be escort/raptor/warbird or all have the same mastery package?
Before clicking on the link to view these "Pilot" ships I was actually kind of enthusiastic.
Page loaded and what a disappointment. Good thing I was kind of enthusiastic.
IMO these honestly look like the ship designs were scrubbed from the bottom of the barrel, especially that fed ship, oh god that fed ship...
If your running out of ideas for ship designs, why not have your community submit designs for upcoming releases and have voting? There are lots of talented individuals out there. I apologize for the rant but the last few ship releases, at least IMO, have not reflected their factions or their intended role/purpose in this game.
Brings up a good question. The blog does not mention the mastery packages in the list of differences.. Will they be escort/raptor/warbird or all have the same mastery package?
Well the Iconic Ship 3-pack had different mastery packages, being Cruiser, Battlecruiser, and Engineering Warbird. In the last 9-pack, I believe the Fed and KDF ships shared packages.
I don't think there is precedent for any Warbird to share mastery packages with any non-Warbird, and the blog pretty much confirmed status of at least one of the ships as a Warbird. But who knows? Maybe it'll be different.
If I had to take a wild stab in the dark... I'd say they're going to release their "cryptic designed" ships first, then release an iconic ship bundle after that containing pilot spec slots.
I'm sure a BOP, Defiant and something Rommie will be coming in the next ship release bundle...
Personally I want to see a T6 Sovereign... but that could be another 2 ship bundle releases away at best if they switch between "cryptic design" and "iconic" bundles... and that's even a big assumption.
It's great they're releasing all these new ships but at some point I think they're going to end up with more ships than active players at some point lol I get ships are their main revenue stream but there's no way they can sustain the game on "new ships" for the next 5 years.
Personally I would have thought more players would be attached to their ships and would want to upgrade rather than replace. If they released a way for me to upgrade my Sovereign I would have bought into that pretty regularly... However since taking advantage of all these new shinies requires a completely new ship, I'll be passing on these.
Maybe someday they'll be able to separate the design from the functionality and tap into the wallets of people who are strongly attached to their ships.
I so agree with Ariel. I would love to upgrade and customize my Defiant in terms of tiers as well as BOFF slots. Having a favorite ship and having it customized to the way you want it should be a feature in this game. I believe players would pay money for that.
I do have one concern regarding additional ships--SHIP SLOTS. I am one of those few who have bought a lot of the ship models, but I have maxed out my ship slots. This really needs to be addressed if Cryptic wants us to buy more ships.
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I'm indifferent to the Klingon ship. As for the Romulan one, I'm not seeing much appeal in it either... it does look vulture-like in my eyes (I am willing to wait and see what the other variants look like before deciding I want nothing to do with it).
After another 5-7 new Specializations and the market sufficiently saturated and T6 versions of the most popular ships made (including a T6 Sovereign; because they'd never do a T5U.5 Upgrade of an Upgrade).
Then they'll milk you dry off allowing upgrading of existing Hybrid seats on non-Specialized ships (aka everything EXCEPT ships with Specialist abilities and Cmdr Hybrid seats) to use another Specialization.
1 Token to add an alternate Specialization to an EXISTING Hybrid seat on any ship.
So 1 Token to turn the Lt.Cmdr. Sci/Intel seat on a Sheshar to LtCmdr. Sci/Intel/Pilot. Another token to make it Sci/Intel/Pilot/Command.
At the speeds these likely can. No.
As we've seen on the shows, the big ships can do so, but are huge molasses slow maneuvers.
There is mass and thruster power. Nice RL example of the type of physics is the Dawn Spacecraft Ion propulsion system.
Given your sig, surely you remember ESD after the anniversary dropped...how it took half an hour to walk from beam-in to the exchange. I'll grant that Season 10 is a bit worse for queued events, but most other places in the game are good. As folks have said above, the people qualified to work on the issue already are, and if there were a silver bullet, we would already have it.
As long as people keep buying them enough to make it profitable, they'll keep cranking them out like clockwork.
As you can tell by some of the people in this thread alone, there are very willing customers for this new gimmick.
When they stop making money off of it, they'll change their tune. I may not like it, but I can't say this is a failure on their part if it's keeping the bills paid. Which, evidenced by the last bundles -- it most certainly is.
Aye...is it just me, or is the npc version (Paris's ship) preferable to that picture? 3-pack might almost be worth it to get rid of the piercings :rolleyes:
Different folks like different things...personally I'm not a fan of the Mercury, but the one in the blog looked pretty cool.
Part of how they can provide customization options like that...sell them via 3packs.
i was simply pointing out what others are alluding to when they say 'work on bugs instead'.
sentiment has nothing much to do with it, as the 18 sacked cryptic employees would surely testify to.
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Common mistake there... Level 40 free ships are tier 5.
Exactly the same place as all free level 41+ ships since forever: event reputation during the event. Your delta recruit will have the chance to get one soon when the Risa event comes up. This is absolutely no different than a character you might have made in April of 2013 or April of 2014.
For the record, I do wish the delta recruit event had been concurrent with Risa, I think it would have been a wonderful synergy.
Why can intell ships be every kind but not pilot ships?
Get on with the part where we can upgrade our T5U's and T6's to have dual stations of our own choosing!!!
:cool:
Nerfing is Fraud...
For me the problem exists in the frequency of the releases.
The price one must pay every three months for having a new play-style to try out is simply un-affordable to me.
I prefer to spend my budget on you know, new games and such and am happy to run with what I have got and purchase something new every year or so.
Also this way, I will have a lot more choice to go for as many more three month packs will be released by the look of it, and I will then know which turn out to be duds!
Traditional skills pretty much outclass almost all of the new skills introduced so far, especially for tactical!
Rolling all over the place is just not my play-style either so meh on that for me!
However, if they were to release a Carrier Spec 9 pack with carrier commands, I would most likely buy that!
I guess it makes sense, while a "the good ship from each faction" bundle, while it would sell well, wouldn't make up for no one (well except the got to buy 'em all type) buying the runt of each set.
and more stupid maneuvers; after rock & roll. yes, this game needs more teen stuff than a real fix for the lag
no, thx
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I hope Pilot Ships will be "Fleet level\11 consols" (similar to Command Ships). Not everybody in the Fleet, and not everybody want to join one...
+ Dreams:
5\3 weapon slots and 5 tac consols
Hangar bay and OP pets
What i am not happy about is the fact with all those 3/9 pack nonesense.
Those arbitrary consol sets are more often then not just pure eyewash artificaly Limits the available consol Slots for those ships resulting in unbalanced and more often then not underperforming Ships.
Throwing buyers remorse ontop in case of the command ship bundle as i realiesed that my Delta recruit did not even had the Option to get the final consol of the set anyway as there happens to be no Samsar to pickup anymore.
So please Cryptic get off this 3 Ship a Set bundle and give us proper Ships that sell themself because of the Appeal in visuals and BOff and consol Layout.
I can understand that you want to maximise Profit to workcost still the blatant atempt to double tipp premium charges for those triple ship packs is way to obvious so what to say i pass those again to help you in improving your buisness decisions and get back to a more reasonable Price and product policy.
Thank you Cryptic for your goodwork but don't treat all your customers as mindless Zombies you think you could drain the last drop off blood from it only hurts you in the Long run.
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Brings up a good question. The blog does not mention the mastery packages in the list of differences.. Will they be escort/raptor/warbird or all have the same mastery package?
Page loaded and what a disappointment. Good thing I was kind of enthusiastic.
IMO these honestly look like the ship designs were scrubbed from the bottom of the barrel, especially that fed ship, oh god that fed ship...
If your running out of ideas for ship designs, why not have your community submit designs for upcoming releases and have voting? There are lots of talented individuals out there. I apologize for the rant but the last few ship releases, at least IMO, have not reflected their factions or their intended role/purpose in this game.
I don't think there is precedent for any Warbird to share mastery packages with any non-Warbird, and the blog pretty much confirmed status of at least one of the ships as a Warbird. But who knows? Maybe it'll be different.
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I so agree with Ariel. I would love to upgrade and customize my Defiant in terms of tiers as well as BOFF slots. Having a favorite ship and having it customized to the way you want it should be a feature in this game. I believe players would pay money for that.
I do have one concern regarding additional ships--SHIP SLOTS. I am one of those few who have bought a lot of the ship models, but I have maxed out my ship slots. This really needs to be addressed if Cryptic wants us to buy more ships.
Aileron. but if you want a Barrel Roll, its the pilot ability "Rock'n'Roll"