assuming pwe is capable of migrating post data, this looks to be nothing but good news. vb3 (our current forum) is eol, vb4 is eol, and vb5 was doa. vbulletin is yesterday and i am super glad to see pwe are sharp enough to have realised that. im not sure i wouldnt have taken us to xenforo instead, but vanilla is a pretty good choice imo.
But I don't recall a mix of Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down sort of stuff.
This is what I was referring to. "Thumbs Up" or "Like" alone is insufficient. The only real issue with "Thumbs Down" or "Dislike" is the likelihood threads announcing patch notes or other changes are downvoted into being closed, assuming there even is an auto-close mechanic in the first place, but those types of important threads can artificially be given huge amounts of upvotes or otherwise protected.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
Thanks for the info, but consider how sad that is:
My HOBBY is working on things mechanical, as such I can fix cars and motorcycles, I have been an Aircraft Mechanic and routinely build my own PCs.
I can almost immediately understand any system by examining it and constantly reverse engineer stuff.
I'm not accusing anyone just commenting on how sad the world's become and also that we already have Replicants from Blade Runner.
Or maybe it's a sign that there's enough work for anyone with a specialization to stay busy for 60+ hours a week at their job without straying outside and it also comes down to accountability in a large organization, which you don't necessarily have with a hobby.
Could, say, Taco possibly figure out how NPC scripting works? Or Zero handle website coding? Or Trendy handle broken content.
Maybe. Probably, I'd wager. But then you have a lot of hands dabbling in tasks that someone else is responsible for.
Say you had to fire someone. Or that you just had to DOCUMENT or UPGRADE something. When you have a couple hundred people at a company, it could be a nightmare to keep track of who did what and where they did it. This means specialization in addition to ID badges and personal logins, none of which is an issue for one person (or even two or three or five or maybe even ten people) doing a small project, particularly as a hobby.
You ever worked a job as a cashier? Or a waiter? Those jobs have personal logins now too and there's good reason why one person doesn't use another person's login. If you have theft, you need to trace it. If you're punching in an order and it's correct and someone else changes it to be incorrect, you need to know who did what or you can never diagnose a problem. Any task worth doing well is a task worth limiting who gets their hands on it.
Made a sig based on what I have here. The text is awkwardly big, but I'll get used to it. The html code it generates and enforces... well, I wrote better html in high school 15 years ago.
Attempted to change my avatar. I assume this is done by clicking "Change my Picture" in the menu on the left on the Signature page. All I got appeared to be an Arcgames homepage embedded in an Arcgames homepage, complete with a scrolling list of games. I guess changing the Avatar does not work.
Visited the new forum. Sure, the STO forums are not there yet, but I was still able to see what it will eventually look like. At the side, it asks me (showing my Arcgames name) to log in, and provides a link I can click to "Sign in with Arcgames.com". Clicking this to log in only reloads the page, and leaves me not logged in.
For some reason, the /en/ forums have non-English language forums also.
So out of everything I tried, the only thing that worked was changing my signature.
As far as I am aware selecting the language does not restrict the forums to English only posts but it is the language of your control panel and the rest of the Arc site.
im having problems with the website in general. login on the website arc login, suddenly two bars with the same details show up withthe arc logo, choices, install arc and such.. along the top, one shows im logged in the other shows im not logged in, attempting to access the forum ends up going no where until i end up back on these forums and click the op's link that gives me the page i was looking for and finally redirects me to the correct location to the forums i was looking for...
...i hate technology...
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
As far as I am aware selecting the language does not restrict the forums to English only posts but it is the language of your control panel and the rest of the Arc site.
im having problems with the website in general. login on the website arc login, suddenly two bars with the same details show up withthe arc logo, choices, install arc and such.. along the top, one shows im logged in the other shows im not logged in, attempting to access the forum ends up going no where until i end up back on these forums and click the op's link that gives me the page i was looking for and finally redirects me to the correct location to the forums i was looking for...
...i hate technology...
Can you provide more information like which device and browser you are using?
instantly found an issue when attempting to get a picture for the updated thing, it doesnt state a thing what requirements and limits there is on file size, pixel size and such.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Got a question about forum signatures. I don't see an "Upload Picture" button, just an insert link. I can temporary link the sig pic from these forums, but will this link continue to exist after the merge? If not: upload pic button please...
EDIT:
Second question. Do we keep the 120 sec/post rule? Cause please remove that.
Can you provide more information like which device and browser you are using?
firefox (latest, autoupdates itself), and i run ghostery on it (latest, blocks cookies, any cookies which keeps out those annoying adverts and tracking cookies). interestingly firefox has a setting which tells a site you dont wish to be monitored, and yet i find on daily 10-12 tracking cookies monitoring my movements.
nothing more then that.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
interestingly firefox has a setting which tells a site you dont wish to be monitored, and yet i find on daily 10-12 tracking cookies monitoring my movements.
That setting isn't checking against cookies. Cookie settings manage cookies.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society." - Aristotle
Made a sig based on what I have here. The text is awkwardly big, but I'll get used to it. The html code it generates and enforces... well, I wrote better html in high school 15 years ago.
Attempted to change my avatar. I assume this is done by clicking "Change my Picture" in the menu on the left on the Signature page. All I got appeared to be an Arcgames homepage embedded in an Arcgames homepage, complete with a scrolling list of games. I guess changing the Avatar does not work.
Visited the new forum. Sure, the STO forums are not there yet, but I was still able to see what it will eventually look like. At the side, it asks me (showing my Arcgames name) to log in, and provides a link I can click to "Sign in with Arcgames.com". Clicking this to log in only reloads the page, and leaves me not logged in.
For some reason, the /en/ forums have non-English language forums also.
So out of everything I tried, the only thing that worked was changing my signature.
Log in on the normal Arc site (top right), et voila, you're logged in.
It's pulling user data from the Arc site too, so if you set your avatar in your Arc profile, et voila it's there on Vanilla too. If you stop thinking of it as a stand alone forum (it seems to be bridged with ARC) you'll find the migration a lot easier to cope with.
When moderation and administration of a forum becomes more and more difficult due to features not moving forward with the times, then it's time to change your forum system. Glitches are to be expected during the early days of a move, it's a lot of work, especially when automated scripts only do a partial job and leave you having to do manual database edits... But heh, folks are still complaining from when things were migrated to this forum, it's to be expected that folks will once again complain. I still remember the complaints when the site went ARC, and broke away from the traditional banner + body design of old. lol
instantly found an issue when attempting to get a picture for the updated thing, it doesnt state a thing what requirements and limits there is on file size, pixel size and such.
The only requirement I know of is a 2Mb limit which is stated above the upload image button
Got a question about forum signatures. I don't see an "Upload Picture" button, just an insert link. I can temporary link the sig pic from these forums, but will this link continue to exist after the merge? If not: upload pic button please...
EDIT:
Second question. Do we keep the 120 sec/post rule? Cause please remove that.
At the top of the left hand column, click your account name to go to your account profile.
Click the Preferences button to the right hand side.
On the left hand menu, click Change my Picture
A Choose File button should be visible there to upload your image.
As far as I know there has been no mention of the 120 sec rule, but that is not to say that there will not be one added.
firefox (latest, autoupdates itself), and i run ghostery on it (latest, blocks cookies, any cookies which keeps out those annoying adverts and tracking cookies). interestingly firefox has a setting which tells a site you dont wish to be monitored, and yet i find on daily 10-12 tracking cookies monitoring my movements.
nothing more then that.
You might need to enable cookies - the site does say that it is required.
I'm using Chrome at the moment, but I have tried it in IE and Firefox previously and it worked.
So we can look forward to frequent spelling errors and regular plugs for mobile devices?
It just uses a detection script to identify that you're using a mobile device, and switches the forum over to a mobile friendly (ie. simplified) layout, complete with good old hamburger menu. I use a similar system on my own websites, as the number of people accessing sites from mobile devices is a HUGE audience that you really can't ignore now.
At the top of the left hand column, click your account name to go to your account profile.
Click the Preferences button to the right hand side.
On the left hand menu, click Change my Picture
A Choose File button should be visible there to upload your image.
As far as I know there has been no mention of the 120 sec rule, but that is not to say that there will not be one added.
First of all, thanks for the replies.
I did find the Choose File button for the avatar. Now looking at my forum signature. That is where there is only a link option. Right now, the entire signature thing confuses me a lot, but I might just get used to it. But there is no option right there for a forum signature picture upload. Just a forum signature picture link.
Why use Arc when you have Steam? I mean it does what Steam already does minus the sales and the games and greenlight and [insert stuff here]. On Arc there's no one, while on Steam there's everyone including those who are playing other games.
And on Steam I get to have intelligent banter :P
Not gonna bother much, new to the forums lol
I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
You might need to enable cookies - the site does say that it is required.
I'm using Chrome at the moment, but I have tried it in IE and Firefox previously and it worked.
they all state that, but ive had no problems running these sites for years without the requirement.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Log in on the normal Arc site (top right), et voila, you're logged in.
It's pulling user data from the Arc site too, so if you set your avatar in your Arc profile, et voila it's there on Vanilla too. If you stop thinking of it as a stand alone forum (it seems to be bridged with ARC) you'll find the migration a lot easier to cope with.
When moderation and administration of a forum becomes more and more difficult due to features not moving forward with the times, then it's time to change your forum system. Glitches are to be expected during the early days of a move, it's a lot of work, especially when automated scripts only do a partial job and leave you having to do manual database edits... But heh, folks are still complaining from when things were migrated to this forum, it's to be expected that folks will once again complain. I still remember the complaints when the site went ARC, and broke away from the traditional banner + body design of old. lol
Correct, Vanilla is completely tied into Arc.
And yes, the current forums make things very difficult to moderate - vanilla will allow us to do more.
Next week we do expect there to be a problems, no move of this scale (all PWE game forums moving into one) will go absolutely smoothly, but we're going to be doing what we can to keep things working as much as possible.
I did find the Choose File button for the avatar. Now looking at my forum signature. That is where there is only a link option. Right now, the entire signature thing confuses me a lot, but I might just get used to it. But there is no option right there for a forum signature picture upload. Just a forum signature picture link.
You'll have to host the image somewhere and link it in. I'm using Dropbox, but there are other facilities out there where you can do the same.
Why use Arc when you have Steam? I mean it does what Steam already does minus the sales and the games and greenlight and [insert stuff here]. On Arc there's no one, while on Steam there's everyone including those who are playing other games.
And on Steam I get to have intelligent banter :P
Not gonna bother much, new to the forums lol
Because they're not the same thing perhaps? Steam been a game delivery system owned by Valve, you still have to have a PWE (ARC) login though to play PWE games. ARC is both PWE's game delivery system AND it's user account and community system. You don't even want to imagine the nightmare it would probably be to have Valve/Steam take over the account management side. It's bad enough when a game just changes publisher!
Do you want to try allowing cookies and see if you still have the same problem?
and forget i have to be careful when i am online? id rather have the issues.. it wont be the last of those i will run across, just find a way around it that works without falling foul of anything.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Because they're not the same thing perhaps? Steam been a game delivery system owned by Valve, you still have to have a PWE (ARC) login though to play PWE games. ARC is both PWE's game delivery system AND it's user account and community system. You don't even want to imagine the nightmare it would probably be to have Valve/Steam take over the account management side. It's bad enough when a game just changes publisher!
You didn't quite get it. I can download STO on Steam and get to have the Steam Overlay which lets me chat with my Steam mates. Arc is a desert compared to it. Additionally I don't get to have two platforms at once.
Arc login... Uh I just write the password and be cool with it in the launcher. Lol. Steam wins, period.
I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
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This is what I was referring to. "Thumbs Up" or "Like" alone is insufficient. The only real issue with "Thumbs Down" or "Dislike" is the likelihood threads announcing patch notes or other changes are downvoted into being closed, assuming there even is an auto-close mechanic in the first place, but those types of important threads can artificially be given huge amounts of upvotes or otherwise protected.
Or maybe it's a sign that there's enough work for anyone with a specialization to stay busy for 60+ hours a week at their job without straying outside and it also comes down to accountability in a large organization, which you don't necessarily have with a hobby.
Could, say, Taco possibly figure out how NPC scripting works? Or Zero handle website coding? Or Trendy handle broken content.
Maybe. Probably, I'd wager. But then you have a lot of hands dabbling in tasks that someone else is responsible for.
Say you had to fire someone. Or that you just had to DOCUMENT or UPGRADE something. When you have a couple hundred people at a company, it could be a nightmare to keep track of who did what and where they did it. This means specialization in addition to ID badges and personal logins, none of which is an issue for one person (or even two or three or five or maybe even ten people) doing a small project, particularly as a hobby.
You ever worked a job as a cashier? Or a waiter? Those jobs have personal logins now too and there's good reason why one person doesn't use another person's login. If you have theft, you need to trace it. If you're punching in an order and it's correct and someone else changes it to be incorrect, you need to know who did what or you can never diagnose a problem. Any task worth doing well is a task worth limiting who gets their hands on it.
I went to my account, preferences, change my picture and it worked fine ( http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/profile/picture).
As far as I am aware selecting the language does not restrict the forums to English only posts but it is the language of your control panel and the rest of the Arc site.
Well join today and start posting on other games... beat the rush!
There are a bunch of new facilities for users and moderators to use and the forums will be a lot more mobile friendly too.
...i hate technology...
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Not to be annoying, but your link is directed to http://www.arcgames.com/en/games.
Would love to check out the actual site, before passing judgement.
EDIT: Found a workaround through the Star Conflict forums to access my forum page.
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Can you provide more information like which device and browser you are using?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
EDIT:
Second question. Do we keep the 120 sec/post rule? Cause please remove that.
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firefox (latest, autoupdates itself), and i run ghostery on it (latest, blocks cookies, any cookies which keeps out those annoying adverts and tracking cookies). interestingly firefox has a setting which tells a site you dont wish to be monitored, and yet i find on daily 10-12 tracking cookies monitoring my movements.
nothing more then that.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
That setting isn't checking against cookies. Cookie settings manage cookies.
Log in on the normal Arc site (top right), et voila, you're logged in.
It's pulling user data from the Arc site too, so if you set your avatar in your Arc profile, et voila it's there on Vanilla too. If you stop thinking of it as a stand alone forum (it seems to be bridged with ARC) you'll find the migration a lot easier to cope with.
When moderation and administration of a forum becomes more and more difficult due to features not moving forward with the times, then it's time to change your forum system. Glitches are to be expected during the early days of a move, it's a lot of work, especially when automated scripts only do a partial job and leave you having to do manual database edits... But heh, folks are still complaining from when things were migrated to this forum, it's to be expected that folks will once again complain.
The only requirement I know of is a 2Mb limit which is stated above the upload image button
At the top of the left hand column, click your account name to go to your account profile.
Click the Preferences button to the right hand side.
On the left hand menu, click Change my Picture
A Choose File button should be visible there to upload your image.
As far as I know there has been no mention of the 120 sec rule, but that is not to say that there will not be one added.
i didnt see that before. and i only saw it after the upload.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
You might need to enable cookies - the site does say that it is required.
I'm using Chrome at the moment, but I have tried it in IE and Firefox previously and it worked.
These are forums, you'll get frequent spelling errors anyway! :P
It just uses a detection script to identify that you're using a mobile device, and switches the forum over to a mobile friendly (ie. simplified) layout, complete with good old hamburger menu.
First of all, thanks for the replies.
I did find the Choose File button for the avatar. Now looking at my forum signature. That is where there is only a link option. Right now, the entire signature thing confuses me a lot, but I might just get used to it. But there is no option right there for a forum signature picture upload. Just a forum signature picture link.
Join the Deltas today!
And on Steam I get to have intelligent banter :P
Not gonna bother much, new to the forums lol
they all state that, but ive had no problems running these sites for years without the requirement.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Correct, Vanilla is completely tied into Arc.
And yes, the current forums make things very difficult to moderate - vanilla will allow us to do more.
Next week we do expect there to be a problems, no move of this scale (all PWE game forums moving into one) will go absolutely smoothly, but we're going to be doing what we can to keep things working as much as possible.
You'll have to host the image somewhere and link it in. I'm using Dropbox, but there are other facilities out there where you can do the same.
Do you want to try allowing cookies and see if you still have the same problem?
Because they're not the same thing perhaps? Steam been a game delivery system owned by Valve, you still have to have a PWE (ARC) login though to play PWE games. ARC is both PWE's game delivery system AND it's user account and community system. You don't even want to imagine the nightmare it would probably be to have Valve/Steam take over the account management side. It's bad enough when a game just changes publisher!
and forget i have to be careful when i am online? id rather have the issues.. it wont be the last of those i will run across, just find a way around it that works without falling foul of anything.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Like this one: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/profile/65984/e1im
Can report that flashing Red Alert signature...
edit: Yeah, you're going to need 9001 more moderators.
Clicking on that link ends up with a redirect to: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games
I'm already logged into the Arcgames site. The forums still think I'm not logged in, and ask me to log in.
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You didn't quite get it. I can download STO on Steam and get to have the Steam Overlay which lets me chat with my Steam mates. Arc is a desert compared to it. Additionally I don't get to have two platforms at once.
Arc login... Uh I just write the password and be cool with it in the launcher. Lol. Steam wins, period.