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dykerasdykeras Member Posts: 326 Arc User
Earlier today I ran Infected conduit NORMAL - as I was testing out my new build and looking to iron out a few niggling problems...

In the group, there was me 'in a the new T6 Rommy Warbird' a few assorted Fed cruisers and 2 Scimmitars. The STF was going well until we got to the first conduit. We took care of the 4 smaller generators and then started to pound on the Generator... then it happened ...

One of the Scimitars had the audacity, the gall, the dam right cheek to use the Thalaron pulse on the conduit !!!!

This set off the other Scimmy player to fill the chat with nothing but abuse - all directed at the poor Thalaron -using Scimmy :confused:

For some reason, the Thalaron-using Scimmy was 'a f^%^&^g noob who should quit the game, he is ruining the game with his stupid build, etc ... :eek:

Needless to say I was rather stunned by this... this being Conduit 'NORMAL' I was under the impression that any build was good enough ?
The poor guy in the Thalaron Scimmy quit the team (and I can't blame him), I told the other Scimmy pilot how much of a F/7656ng jerk he was and then I too quit... :mad:

So, is this the 'norm' now for this game? Dare to use a 'special' or set of 'special' consoles and you'll get derided?

It left a terrible taste in my mouth... :(

(Edited - Thalaron not Thoron :-)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited December 2014
    Ok... that... is seriously messed up.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Its pretty common I put one person on ignore about per day and its been like this since the relese of delta rising before that it was a lot less common. I blame it partly on the system revamp adding the 3rd q with the autofails. Its bringing out the worste in people. I really can't be bothered to do many q's 1 per day per character max now. I have never been a "heavy' q user but I would go on binges sometimes every few weeks i might spend an evening doing them all whichever one would pop up. So the idiot density has increased by a lot. I never say anything though I just add to my mushrooming ignore list ... I only used to have a handful of people on that list.. no more.. its gotten huge.

    I had a guy last night in a schimitar who was parsing the group. Its funny I think he insulted us because he was not at the top of the parse and he thought he should be. It was crystaline entity. I was on the top lol I think this angered him. He was spewing TRIBBLE I said nothing I just as usual hit ignore and left.

    some interesting people playing these days. I wish they would make private groups and stay out of the pug q's :P
  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I wish I could say that behaviour like that in this game, or any MMO, surprises me, but, I can't.
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Hate to say I was surprised, but I am not. Why I don't like running STFs unless I run with the folks from Star Trek Battles.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Oh man, now I'm definitely gonna start using thalaron pulse in every instance now. The nerd rage shall be delicious! :D
  • kpg1usakpg1usa Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    In addition to the issue mentioned above, the tray being broken makes it difficult to complete an STF when you have to spend a few minutes reordering the tray you just cleaned up a minute ago before you joined the STF. Also, the Advanced is too difficult now. I joined an Advanced STF for Infected: Conduit, and it was over in a few minutes because one of the dozens of Borg spheres allegedly repaired one of the transformers. STO has made this game unplayable, as the Borg NP's will become unobtainium, making the Rep. gear into unobtainium as well, thus letting me know that my time playing this game, and paying into it, is over until the Advanced STF's become winnable again. You could guarantee 1 Borg NP for Normal STF, and 2 for Advanced, and 3 for Elite. Otherwise, I have a real life, real 40+ hour per week job, and Certifications to study for. Thanks for fixing my priorities Cryptic, by letting your paying player base know you cannot be reasoned with, and giving us the bird. The mass departure of players will negatively impact your ability to pay for future voiceovers, or employee paychecks.
  • rynohawkrynohawk Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    People who rage like that make me lol. How do they even know he used thalaron pulse on purpose? I have done "Oh TRIBBLE! Wrong weapon!" Plenty of times.
  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rynohawk wrote: »
    People who rage like that make me lol. How do they even know he used thalaron pulse on purpose? I have done "Oh TRIBBLE! Wrong weapon!" Plenty of times.

    Even more fun is "Oops fireworks button" just as you die from a warp core breach :D
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    People nerd raging at others in a PUG. That never happens, ever. :D
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kpg1usa wrote: »
    In addition to the issue mentioned above, the tray being broken makes it difficult to complete an STF when you have to spend a few minutes reordering the tray you just cleaned up a minute ago before you joined the STF. Also, the Advanced is too difficult now. I joined an Advanced STF for Infected: Conduit, and it was over in a few minutes because one of the dozens of Borg spheres allegedly repaired one of the transformers. STO has made this game unplayable, as the Borg NP's will become unobtainium, making the Rep. gear into unobtainium as well, thus letting me know that my time playing this game, and paying into it, is over until the Advanced STF's become winnable again. You could guarantee 1 Borg NP for Normal STF, and 2 for Advanced, and 3 for Elite. Otherwise, I have a real life, real 40+ hour per week job, and Certifications to study for. Thanks for fixing my priorities Cryptic, by letting your paying player base know you cannot be reasoned with, and giving us the bird. The mass departure of players will negatively impact your ability to pay for future voiceovers, or employee paychecks.

    Rep gear isn't going to magically solve your problems. Paragraphs will help, though.

    We really need to drive it into players' heads that throwing gear at a problem isn't the solution. At best it's a bandaid, at worst it's a huge resource investment that will actually hinder your performance...
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    OP, if I had a nickel for every time something similar has happened to me... Seriously, a lot of not very nice people play this game. And not very well, I might add. At least not as well as they think they're doing. Then there are the people who treat this game as religion or something akin to it. I've no idea how someone could let a video game become the most important thing in their lives and I don't wanna know.

    I can get pretty frustrated sometimes with the people who play this game myself. But when I feel that coming on, I immediately turn the game off and go outside. Outside needs no high speed connection. Nor much else either. But it is a safe bet that guy won't be there. And even if he is, he has no InterWebs anonymity to hide behind. Which means he'll probably not say to my face what he so quickly typed into Chat.

    Don't let them anger you. Laugh at them. It's what I do. And I find the results satisfying. But after I click on <Ignore>.
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  • mspfuelermspfueler Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    janus1975 wrote: »
    Even more fun is "Oops fireworks button" just as you die from a warp core breach :D


    Oh I gotta try that now....:)
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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dykeras wrote: »
    Earlier today I ran Infected conduit NORMAL - as I was testing out my new build and looking to iron out a few niggling problems...

    In the group, there was me 'in a the new T6 Rommy Warbird' a few assorted Fed cruisers and 2 Scimmitars. The STF was going well until we got to the first conduit. We took care of the 4 smaller generators and then started to pound on the Generator... then it happened ...

    One of the Scimitars had the audacity, the gall, the dam right cheek to use the Thoron pulse on the conduit !!!!

    This set off the other Scimmy player to fill the chat with nothing but abuse - all directed at the poor Thoron-using Scimmy :confused:

    For some reason, the Thoron-using Scimmy was 'a f^%^&^g noob who should quit the game, he is ruining the game with his stupid build, etc ... :eek:

    Needless to say I was rather stunned by this... this being Conduit 'NORMAL' I was under the impression that any build was good enough ?
    The poor guy in the Thoron-Scimmy quit the team (and I can't blame him), I told the other Scimmy pilot how much of a F/7656ng jerk he was and then I too quit... :mad:

    So, is this the 'norm' now for this game? Dare to use a 'special' or set of 'special' consoles and you'll get derided?

    It left a terrible taste in my mouth... :(

    Well, one of those two should definately leave the game... I don't think it's the Thoron user tho...
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  • kpg1usakpg1usa Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Rep gear isn't going to magically solve your problems. Paragraphs will help, though.

    We really need to drive it into players' heads that throwing gear at a problem isn't the solution. At best it's a bandaid, at worst it's a huge resource investment that will actually hinder your performance...

    You're missing the point, it's just a game. Some of us play for entertainment purposes only. If you make the entire game into a grinding job, why should I play? I already have a real job. I just want to have fun. If you want to play elite, that's fine, but don't take the Borg NP's away from the rest of us, so that we can never participate in the reputation system.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dykeras wrote: »
    Earlier today I ran Infected conduit NORMAL - as I was testing out my new build and looking to iron out a few niggling problems...

    In the group, there was me 'in a the new T6 Rommy Warbird' a few assorted Fed cruisers and 2 Scimmitars. The STF was going well until we got to the first conduit. We took care of the 4 smaller generators and then started to pound on the Generator... then it happened ...

    One of the Scimitars had the audacity, the gall, the dam right cheek to use the Thalaron pulse on the conduit !!!!

    This set off the other Scimmy player to fill the chat with nothing but abuse - all directed at the poor Thalaron -using Scimmy :confused:

    For some reason, the Thalaron-using Scimmy was 'a f^%^&^g noob who should quit the game, he is ruining the game with his stupid build, etc ... :eek:

    Needless to say I was rather stunned by this... this being Conduit 'NORMAL' I was under the impression that any build was good enough ?
    The poor guy in the Thalaron Scimmy quit the team (and I can't blame him), I told the other Scimmy pilot how much of a F/7656ng jerk he was and then I too quit... :mad:

    So, is this the 'norm' now for this game? Dare to use a 'special' or set of 'special' consoles and you'll get derided?

    It left a terrible taste in my mouth... :(

    (Edited - Thalaron not Thoron :-)

    Some people have no lives, these are the ones that spend exorbitant amounts of time on pug team chats ******** at people in normal queues for not having the right build.
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kpg1usa wrote: »
    You're missing the point, it's just a game. Some of us play for entertainment purposes only. If you make the entire game into a grinding job, why should I play? I already have a real job. I just want to have fun. If you want to play elite, that's fine, but don't take the Borg NP's away from the rest of us, so that we can never participate in the reputation system.


    I tell you what, oif it were me that was getting yelled at I'd keep doing it over and over again (as long as it didn't risk losing the STF for the rest of the team).
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kpg1usa wrote: »
    You're missing the point, it's just a game. Some of us play for entertainment purposes only. If you make the entire game into a grinding job, why should I play? I already have a real job. I just want to have fun. If you want to play elite, that's fine, but don't take the Borg NP's away from the rest of us, so that we can never participate in the reputation system.

    Here we go again...

    If you can't beat the Advanced missions using non-rep gear, the rep gear won't solve that problem. It's good, but completely unneeded. Basic understanding of the game mechanics and how to throw a decent build together are far, far more valuable.

    You're bringing this unfun gear grind on yourself. You can do fine without it. I'm not sure why you want the rep gear if you don't want to grind. You also seem to be unaware that the some of the best rep gear is available without setting foot in an Advanced queue...

    In any case, we're getting off topic, and it's mostly my fault. The player in the OP is a jerk, let the guy with the 3-piece have some fun. It's not like you need a serious build for Normal, you don't even need one for most Advanced missions anymore.
  • nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Op, for god's sake, it's not the normality. The problem is some nerds can't contextualize at all :rolleyes:
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dykeras wrote: »
    So, is this the 'norm' now for this game? Dare to use a 'special' or set of 'special' consoles and you'll get derided?

    Nope. To be honest I wouldn't say that person was even an elitist, since even the biggest elitsist I know in this game wouldn't be bothered by that. Crazy maybe.
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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yeah, this isn't anything exclusive to STO either.

    Yesterday, in another game, our team was losing and for some reason this player felt it was my fault somehow, calling me every name in the book. She said she hopes I die from a virus(I don't remember which one) and get sent to helk(a misspell by her obviously). I responded with a little fun saying, 'wow, helk sounds like an awful place, why would you wish that on me?' and that respond sparked even more anger and it got much worse.

    So, it's best to hit the ignore and move on, it's just not worth it, you're here to play the game and to have fun, not to put up with someone else's tantrums. Only problem with ignore here is that you may and can still get matched up with that same person, but at least you can't hear them jabbing away.

    To be honest, I've only had one situation that I can remember in STO where I've had a serious issue with someone and I pugged all the time. The community here isn't half bad when compaired to other games, especially F2P.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dykeras wrote: »
    Earlier today I ran Infected conduit NORMAL - as I was testing out my new build and looking to iron out a few niggling problems...

    In the group, there was me 'in a the new T6 Rommy Warbird' a few assorted Fed cruisers and 2 Scimmitars. The STF was going well until we got to the first conduit. We took care of the 4 smaller generators and then started to pound on the Generator... then it happened ...

    One of the Scimitars had the audacity, the gall, the dam right cheek to use the Thalaron pulse on the conduit !!!!

    This set off the other Scimmy player to fill the chat with nothing but abuse - all directed at the poor Thalaron -using Scimmy :confused:

    For some reason, the Thalaron-using Scimmy was 'a f^%^&^g noob who should quit the game, he is ruining the game with his stupid build, etc ... :eek:

    Needless to say I was rather stunned by this... this being Conduit 'NORMAL' I was under the impression that any build was good enough ?
    The poor guy in the Thalaron Scimmy quit the team (and I can't blame him), I told the other Scimmy pilot how much of a F/7656ng jerk he was and then I too quit... :mad:

    So, is this the 'norm' now for this game? Dare to use a 'special' or set of 'special' consoles and you'll get derided?

    It left a terrible taste in my mouth... :(

    (Edited - Thalaron not Thoron :-)


    OP i hate to tell you but that type of attitude will only continue to show up
    DR as a whole is more pointed for the elitests and less for the average casual player.

    as such the elitest / hardcore types think that anything they percieve as wrong is to be trolled flammed and to shame a person.

    If there is anyone to blame for this its cryptic for putting the game into the current state its in which made many casual players like myself stop playing.

    I hope the thalaron user didnt quit the game over the harsh mouth of a complete and total idiot who has no concept of teamwork and how to help players become better.

    Fools like that though will only increase as this game goes forward...to sad really this game was so casual freindly before DR.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    OP i hate to tell you but that type of attitude will only continue to show up
    DR as a whole is more pointed for the elitests and less for the average casual player.

    as such the elitest / hardcore types think that anything they percieve as wrong is to be trolled flammed and to shame a person.

    If there is anyone to blame for this its cryptic for putting the game into the current state its in which made many casual players like myself stop playing.

    I hope the thalaron user didnt quit the game over the harsh mouth of a complete and total idiot who has no concept of teamwork and how to help players become better.

    Fools like that though will only increase as this game goes forward...to sad really this game was so casual freindly before DR.
    Yeah, because there were never any threads on the forum pre-DR with people complaining about PUGs and elitism.

    All of humanity's stupidity in STO has all come since DR. Everything is DR's fault. We were all perfect angels who never got mad at each or made playing mistakes pre-DR. :D
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Yeah, because there were never any threads on the forum pre-DR with people complaining about PUGs and elitism.

    All of humanity's stupidity in STO has all come since DR. Everything is DR's fault. We were all perfect angels who never got mad at each or made playing mistakes pre-DR. :D

    *sigh* I miss the good old days too!:rolleyes:

    I think that guy was just being a putz. Being a putz is what 'has to go'.

    Down with the putzes!:mad:
  • john98837john98837 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    While its not necessary to go off on someone like that lets just be honest, if you use that thaloron weapon you are a noob. Wasting 3 console slots and an ability with a 10 second wind up that doesn't do nearly as much damage as it should, come on, I hope by now most people have the sense not to use it. I limit my elitist nature to just posting the parse at the end of the match so they know what they did.
  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    john98837 wrote: »
    While its not necessary to go off on someone like that lets just be honest, if you use that thaloron weapon you are a noob. Wasting 3 console slots and an ability with a 10 second wind up that doesn't do nearly as much damage as it should, come on, I hope by now most people have the sense not to use it. I limit my elitist nature to just posting the parse at the end of the match so they know what they did.

    Yes, having fun is such n00b behavior. :rolleyes:
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yes, having fun is such n00b behavior. :rolleyes:

    no ....ITS A FAAAAAAAAKE!!! :D
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    @OP:

    No offense, but what is your complaint exactly? That the guy was a noob? That he received verbal abuse? That he should have been allowed to be 'special' and fire at the conduit? That, on NORMAL, none of it should have mattered?

    Seriously, not sure which of the above reasons makes you upset. :)

    In general, though, I think people should step off on Normal. You're not yelling at your 3-year-old for riding his bike with training-wheels either, now, do you?
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    had a somewhat similar experience in azure advanced earlier

    at the start we split up 2 pairs of players each heading toward 1s, the fifth flying alone toward a 5 :rolleyes:

    the rest of us saved our ships and joind up and saved a 2 and clear the mission condition, and a guy in a scimitar (what is it with this ship) called the loner at the 5 out, at first I agreed with him, but then he turned abusive and continued to rant on and on and on. it was ridiculous.

    what was funny was after the STF was over and crazy scimitar guy left, the guy being ranted at asked me what he was so mad about because he "just tuned him out". I explained that it was better to attack the lower number ships first because the the mission condition. He agreed and said he would know for next time.

    it only shows, if you only rant and rave about something, no ones going to listen, and even if you are right no one will learn anything :cool:
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    @OP:

    No offense, but what is your complaint exactly? That the guy was a noob? That he received verbal abuse? That he should have been allowed to be 'special' and fire at the conduit? That, on NORMAL, none of it should have mattered?

    Seriously, not sure which of the above reasons makes you upset. :)

    In general, though, I think people should step off on Normal. You're not yelling at your 3-year-old for riding his bike with training-wheels either, now, do you?


    The question for me is, did he fail the STF for everyone? If yes, then bad on him. If no, who cares? Either way, the use of such abusive language is more the mark of a noob than anything.
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